What would you do if made dictator of the US?

[mrdevious]

So if I was made dictator of the United States, here's the policies I'd implement. Some more conservative Americans may find me a bit too socialist for their tastse, but everybody's whelcome to contribute their vision. My policies go as follows:


- Legalize and control marijuana like alchohol or tobacco.

- Make the sales of tobacco illegal (not the use)

- Set a mandatory minumum percentage of employees hired within your own nation for companies.

- Make some serious efforts towards changing to non-polluting fuel sources and getting off our dependance on oil.

- a considerably less interferring foreign policy. which means no more bullshit wars, no more policing the world unless absolutely necessary. no more hypocracy in foreign policy, such as telling the world who can and can't have nuclear weapons while having the biggest stock pile of our own. and on that note:

- eliminate the nuclear weapons program, and perfect the anti-nuclear defense system.

- restructure NASA to quit wasting so much money on sending probes to murcury and the such, and start putting that funding into strickly technology research and missions that serve more purpose than giving buddies contracts.

- apologise to the muslim world for all the bushshit (and pre-bushshit), start working on middle eastern peace without blowing thousands of families to bits.

- assuming I could stop it beforehand, I'd not invade Iraq (because it being part of the "war on terror" is bullshit) and put part of that money into real homeland security.

- significantly reduce america's military, but sensibly. IE as stated before eliminate the nukes, plus make big reduction to the forces and spend more on giving the soldiers the best training and equipment as a smaller, elite force. and I'd reduce huge amounts of the bullshit military power that serves no purpose other than giving buddies in the defense industry contracts. for instance, if you combined the entire worlds navy, you'd have 54% of America's navy. there's no need for one that big, I'd be scrapping some battleships, subs, fighters, and aircraft carriers for sure.

- create a 2 teired health care system, not like they have now, but more like Germany's or other european contries who have some excellent ones. although, I'd have considerably bigger government subsidies than to help people pay. I know a lot of people would cry out for a strickly public system, but as we've learned here in Canada, it's not really sustainable. I'd rather the governemtn subsidize to the largest extent possible for those who can't afford the insurance, or aren't adaquately covered by their insurance and pick up the rest.

- with the reduction and optimization to the military, the huge surpluss of money from that would be put into education (and of course my healthcare plan). that includes much bigger college subsidies.

- stop putting people in jail for simple posession. rather, if they're caught with a serious illegal drug, I'd have it written on their permanent reccord. 3 strikes, and it's in to forced rehabilitation. no rehab for those caught with small amounts with convictions 5 years apart (or so), so as to separate the junkies from the experimentors.

- stop all this wiretapping, freedom degenerating bullshit that's going on.

- reduce the national and coast guard, and seriously increase the border security.

- reserve the death penalty for the more insanely serial killers, like Ted Bundy, and war criminals.

- all current national anti-drug funding will be put into campaigns that give people and kids real, unbiased drug information.

- Ban the teaching of intelligent design in schools (sorry, I know that will offend some, but that's just my particular view on the matter).

- institute some major programs to get kids out of gangs and keep them from joining.

- provide more healthy lifestyle and illness prevention programs.

- allow stem-cell research, so long as no conscious beings are created and only clusters of cells are created. otherwise I don't see why we couldn't get the cells from aborted fetuses. (don't get started on the abortion issue now, I don't like it either, but there are times when it's necessary).

- long-term involuntary imprisonment with psychiatric care, in separate facilities, for sex offenders and pedophiles on a 1st offense. harsher penalty for second offense. chemical castration for 3rd offense, plus the offender is listed on a predator watch-list, and kept under surveilance.

- Have the marijuana industry replace the alchohol industry. Ban corporate sales of alchohol, but allow personal use and production at home, to a specified limit.

- start up a good-sized hemp farming industry (one of the most versatile and and long-lasting pruducts out there). I am aware that our economy is based on a disposable society, but it's not a sustainable one, and is an economy that will have to be shrunk.

- put serious funding into environmental restoration, pollution reduction, waste reduction, etc. costly perhapse, but too important an issue to put on the back burner any longer.

- immediate long jailtime and then extradition for importing harmfull drugs such as coke and heroin into the country in huge quantities from whatever the hell nation they come from. then, when they're sent home after their setence, death penalty if they set foot in the nation again.

[mrdevious]

hellooooo? bump bump. surely you all have some ideas on how the world's biggest superpower should be run. don't give stoners a bad name!

[turtle420]

I would increase the military budget. "un-limited".

Then, I'd ban dictatorships in the USA and fire my self.

Then I'd try to win the elections...

But I'm with you dude with the MJ legalizations.

[mrdevious]

I would increase the military budget. "un-limited".

Then, I'd ban dictatorships in the USA and fire my self.

Then I'd try to win the elections...

But I'm with you dude with the MJ legalizations.

hmmm, I posted this in another forum and got the same reaction, so I'll have to clarify once again. we're not actually discussing whether or not the US should have a dictatorship, we're just removing your limitations to make the hypothetical situation possible and your ideas fully implementable (is that a word? well I'm dictating that it is:p ).

now lets pretend you're dictator, it all works out some how, and you'll live forever. :)

[Funkamander]

Apologize to the world.

Then, fire Congress.

Then, take all the money that Congress would be wasting and make a new branch of government: Internal Affairs.

Then, eradicate everything to do with the legal system, and start from the ground up.

Then, eradicate everything to do with the educational system, and start from the ground up.

Then, switch teachers' salaries with pro athletes' and actors'.

Then, murder everyone who disagrees with me. Personally.

[LovelyTasha]

I'd probably say 'fuck Iraq'.

Then again, I'd burn this country down if I were in charge of it. Simply becasue the flame would look cool while intoxicated.

<3 Tasha

[mrdevious]

If anybody's interested, I posted this same thread in the other forums I frequent (rammstein forums). Everybody's tried to call me a fool for legalizing weed and I totally beat them into the ground:p . *sigh* but some people just won't change their view in the face of obvious evidence to the contrary.

http://herzeleid.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24304

[benagain]

I say legalize weed and tax it along with everything else mind altering, but send proceeds to the school systems (like a lottery or something) and force everyone of legal age to vote or be exiled.

[mrdevious]

and force everyone of legal age to vote or be exiled.


meh, I've thought of that, but I figure it's the stupid people who don't care about voting anyway, so why force it?

[benagain]

meh, I've thought of that, but I figure it's the stupid people who don't care about voting anyway, so why force it?

Yea, that's true. Besides, to be trully effective, all little things would have to be voted on. Take some power away from the president and give it back to the people. There should have been a vote before we invaded any country.

[dopesmoker]

i would make an alliance with cuba, then invade anyone that pissed me off.
i would legalize marijuana of course.
make a personal army
increase military spending and research
execute anyone that gets in my way
make a better healthcare system
make the country more environmentally friendly.
pull troops out of iraq
restart the production of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons
pay for colloge and university tuitions
help homeless people get back on their feet
protect sensitive ecosystems
increase border security
get rid of the NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement)
help eliminate traffic jams that add to the pollution and deteriating environment
provide funding for the arts
help kids get involved in activities such as sports
raise the minimum wage and increase tariffs

[mrdevious]

dopesmoker, why would you start making nukes, bio, and chemical weapons? there's so much violence and hatred in the world already, and those weapons are only good for slaughtering millions of innocents. Personally I'm just really tired of it all, all the constant bickering and killing and hatred over all this stupid shit in the world. actually screw it, I'd make my nation a buddhist state :p

[dopesmoker]

dopesmoker, why would you start making nukes, bio, and chemical weapons? there's so much violence and hatred in the world already, and those weapons are only good for slaughtering millions of innocents. Personally I'm just really tired of it all, all the constant bickering and killing and hatred over all this stupid shit in the world. actually screw it, I'd make my nation a buddhist state :p

yah i know not many people agree with it but i personally think that as long as i dont go around dropping them on random people i'll be fine

[Funkamander]

I also forgot make mass transit free.

[mrdevious]

yah i know not many people agree with it but i personally think that as long as i dont go around dropping them on random people i'll be fine

ok, but still, what do you need them for?

[Awill3449]

Damn dude, that must have taken a while. Here are my social liberatarian views:
- Legalize weed, obviously
- Fund needle exchanges/detox for hardcore addicts
- Gasoline taxes and/or mandatory miles per gallon for cars
- Apologize to the rest of the world for all the bullshit
- Bring the troops home from Iraq asap
- Nat'l healthcare and capitalist healthcare system for those who want it
- Legal, available abortions w/o parent permission, husband permission bs
- Reduce gov't interference w/ social matters and with religion ie. no intelligent design in schools, no domestic spying without warrants
- Legal gay marriage/civil unions or whatever you want to call it
- End incarceration of non-violent offenders
- Increase minimum wage
- Basically let people do what they want and make the country greener
- I'd probably also not want to be dictator and set up some sort of democracy.

[dopesmoker]

I also forgot make mass transit free.

thats a pretty good idea

[dopesmoker]

ok, but still, what do you need them for?

if i have more then everyone else no one else will try to do anything to me. And basically demenstrates my power

[Awill3449]

if i have more then everyone else no one else will try to do anything to me. And basically demenstrates my power
If you're talking about weapons, that's really not true. Example: the United States now. No one's trying to do anything? Iraq four years ago. No one did anything? No one ever messed with an armed country? North Korea? Germany?

[dopesmoker]

If you're talking about weapons, that's really not true. Example: the United States now. No one's trying to do anything? Iraq four years ago. No one did anything? No one ever messed with an armed country? North Korea? Germany?

I didnt mean just armed i mean extremely armed as in if a country attempted to invade their entire continent would be a smoking hole. i know that very few people agree with me but i am a very militaryistic person. if thats a word

[Awill3449]

I didnt mean just armed i mean extremely armed as in if a country attempted to invade their entire continent would be a smoking hole. i know that very few people agree with me but i am a very militaryistic person. if thats a word
Yeah I guess I just don't agree. But history can usually answer any questions about this. How many military-based countries have survived for extended periods of time without the rest of the world invading? The Roman Empire was around for a while...:confused: Are any still around today besides the emerging US? I can't remember a situation in a country where military might has led to international or long-term economic success.

[dopesmoker]

well Stalin turned the soviet union from a fledgling agricultural nation into a powerful military based country with a strong economy but the leaders that followed him turned it to shit and it eventually collapsed. As long as one doesnt go nuts amazing things can be done.

[Awill3449]

Yeah, Stalin did amazing things to stay in power....? Maybe do some research. I feel like he gets alot of positive credit when he wasn't exactly a "amazing" guy. He didn't have too many friends before or after WWII.

[mrdevious]

well Stalin turned the soviet union from a fledgling agricultural nation into a powerful military based country with a strong economy but the leaders that followed him turned it to shit and it eventually collapsed. As long as one doesnt go nuts amazing things can be done.

living standards were still pretty low though, and at the end of the day it's how the people can live that matters.

[dopesmoker]

China is another example they are rapidly upgrading their military making it more and more powerful while having a very strong economy

[dopesmoker]

living standards were still pretty low though, and at the end of the day it's how the people can live that matters.

living standards were low compared to what people see now.....there are very rich people now and very poor people.....at that time everyone was equal. And in Russia now the economy is worse and they arent even a very military based country anymore and now 40% of the country is in poverty

[seedbare]

bring jobs back home
stop world wide police b,s
restore constitution
stop illegal immigration

[pabloescobar209]

I also forgot make mass transit free.
i'm not gonna bash this idea until i hear you're explanation of how this would work, so please explain this.

[mrdevious]

i'm not gonna bash this idea until i hear you're explanation of how this would work, so please explain this.

well, people would take busses, trains, and trolly's, and it would be free because the government picks up the tab.

[pabloescobar209]

well, people would take busses, trains, and trolly's, and it would be free because the government picks up the tab.
that what i'm asking... how does the government just pick up the tab??? where does that money come from??

[dopesmoker]

well instead of wasting money spying on americans you could take that money and put it into transit

[pabloescobar209]

well instead of wasting money spying on americans you could take that money and put it into transit
this was what i was afraid of, another person that runs their mouth with no explaination.

[dopesmoker]

this was what i was afraid of, another person that runs their mouth with no explaination.

it was an idea, not running my mouth, i just think that there is so many useless things that money is pumped into that you should take it from there and put it into other things eg transit

[pabloescobar209]

it was an idea, not running my mouth, i just think that there is so many useless things that money is pumped into that you should take it from there and put it into other things eg transit
but if you do what you said you will be able to ride to where ever on a bus for free... there's just a better chance it will be blown up by a terrorist.

[dopesmoker]

but if you do what you said you will be able to ride to where ever on a bus for free... there's just a better chance it will be blown up by a terrorist.

there will be normal routes, nothing changed except there will be no cost. If a terrorist wanted to blow up a bus i'm sure they could get the few dollars to ride on it.

[likemclever]

While we are at it why don't we just make everything free. Why the fuck should anyone actually have to work for anything?....after all the government can just pull the money off of the money tree they have growing in the rose garden to pay all of the grown up bills while we can use our money to buy video games. This is brilliant we could just stay home smoke pot and be spoon feed by the government all day while invisible "government" people go to work for us and do our actual jobs.

[pabloescobar209]

there will be normal routes, nothing changed except there will be no cost. If a terrorist wanted to blow up a bus i'm sure they could get the few dollars to ride on it.
yeah but you said cut the funding towards national security( spying on americans) which means more terrorists will slip into the country making it less safe than it already is.

[dopesmoker]

yeah but you said cut the funding towards national security( spying on americans) which means more terrorists will slip into the country making it less safe than it already is.

the spying on americans was done illegally, while they talked on the phone with people in their everyday lives at home. I am 100% in support of homeland security but they can keep terrorists out legally by increasing border security etc.

[BkSkillz]

i just read the thread title and havent read any of the responses but what i would do if made dictator of the u.s. would be go to war with iraq and any other 3rd world country with massave natural subsidiaries hope for rain in the ghettos and places of suburban massas like new orleans then turn my back once the rain begins, place all my friends in possitions of power such as supreme court congress fema and shucks why not the KKK as well regardless of past experience or lack of, i'd ignore health insurance issues damn it if u cant afford to go see a doctor then a doctor cant afford to see you, id authorise assasination attempts on leaders of other social parties such as chave and castro then ban any social or business ties with them once those attempts fail i'd begin a world wide "coalition" of nations to combat anyone who stands up against tirany greed and corruption although my "coalition" would be mainly comprized of my country and any country that needs my country to survive...which makes it a 3 nation coalition against the rest of the world..i wonder how good my odds would be...next i'd call every and anyone who dissagrees with my plan of world domination...i mean world coalition a terrorist and you know the rest..also i'd ban any other country or nation in the world the power to produce there own nuclear materials for economic advance or otherwise although daily nuclear warheads are produced within my boarders with absolutely no economic or technological principles other then a mere slap inthe face to the world body..just because i make the rules doesnt mean i'd have to obide by them...then again these are just my ideas and fictional depictions of what would happen were i DICTATOR of the u.s. and have no barring in any way form or attribute to any similiar events past or present in world history...also GOD BLESS AMERICA(vote for me LOL)

[mrdevious]

While we are at it why don't we just make everything free. Why the fuck should anyone actually have to work for anything?....after all the government can just pull the money off of the money tree they have growing in the rose garden to pay all of the grown up bills while we can use our money to buy video games. This is brilliant we could just stay home smoke pot and be spoon feed by the government all day while invisible "government" people go to work for us and do our actual jobs.

holy shit man, he just said he'd have the government pay for transit. he didn't say everything in the world would be free, he didn't say nobody has to work, all he said was one department, that being transit, would be paid for, just like when a nation pays for medicare, or education. if the government can put money into all the other programs such as healthcare, education, drug-rehab, environment, cancer research, overall medical research, massive military's, I'm sure this isn't that far fetched an idea and the billions upon billions wasted in millitary could be redistributed. Believe it or not, government-subsidized public services have existed before!

[dopesmoker]

holy shit man, he just said he'd have the government pay for transit. he didn't say everything in the world would be free, he didn't say nobody has to work, all he said was one department, that being transit, would be paid for, just like when a nation pays for medicare, or education. if the government can put money into all the other programs such as healthcare, education, drug-rehab, environment, cancer research, overall medical research, massive military's, I'm sure this isn't that far fetched an idea and the billions upon billions wasted in millitary could be redistributed. Believe it or not, government-subsidized public services have existed before!

well said mrdevious well said

[likemclever]

holy shit man, he just said he'd have the government pay for transit. he didn't say everything in the world would be free, he didn't say nobody has to work, all he said was one department, that being transit, would be paid for, just like when a nation pays for medicare, or education. if the government can put money into all the other programs such as healthcare, education, drug-rehab, environment, cancer research, overall medical research, massive military's, I'm sure this isn't that far fetched an idea and the billions upon billions wasted in millitary could be redistributed. Believe it or not, government-subsidized public services have existed before!


See thatâ??s the problem it seems like such a little thingâ?¦â?�o just create another department.â?� The idea is not to create a larger government. America should not look to its government for the answer.

The government has done a terrible job managing healthcare, education, the environment and just about every social service I can think of. The last damn thing I want to do is give them more control over my life especially when they have proven them selves poor stewards.

What would all of these freebees mean for our private sector? How many privately owned taxi cab companies would go out of business because of your generosity? So instead of paying my fellow American I can just pay higher taxes to have â??the manâ?� do it for me.

Our strong military policies are necessary and will never go away so you most defiantly would pay higher taxes. Think about it free transit in every American city/town (not exactly chump change.)

Also Iâ??m not a man

***This thread should be in the politics forum***

[pabloescobar209]

See thatâ??s the problem it seems like such a little thingâ?¦â?�o just create another department.â?� The idea is not to create a larger government. America should not look to its government for the answer.

The government has done a terrible job managing healthcare, education, the environment and just about every social service I can think of. The last damn thing I want to do is give them more control over my life especially when they have proven them selves poor stewards.

What would all of these freebees mean for our private sector? How many privately owned taxi cab companies would go out of business because of your generosity? So instead of paying my fellow American I can just pay higher taxes to have â??the manâ?� do it for me.

Our strong military policies are necessary and will never go away so you most defiantly would pay higher taxes. Think about it free transit in every American city/town (not exactly chump change.)

Also Iâ??m not a man

***This thread should be in the politics forum***
exactly... theres no such thing as a free lunch, spombody would have to pay for it being free (the tax payer) which means people that don't work get free rides and abuse this , completely underminding the system