Salvia and spirituality?

[Swizzy89304]

You may remember I posted on here a while back about my missing cat, Snoopy. Anyway, Ive had an idea...
Ive read all about salvia and the effects - basically, its an intense and short lived trip that on higher doses can make you impervious to pain, forget whats taken place, get extremely confused etc. NOT something to be messed around with. Although our cat is still missing after a month and a half (was seen yesterday by some old guy) so Im thinking of ordering some 15x and trying to 'connect' with his spirit, to pinpoint exactly where he is.
Would it be possible to communicate with my cat using salvia or mushrooms? If it helps, I believe that these substances, along with the holy Herb, should only be used for spiritual - not recreational - purposes.

[mrdevious]

Swizzy, no drug's going to make you mentally link to your cat. I mean seriously, I'm honestly not trying to be condescending here, but you gotta get some grip on reality. drugs just change chemicals in your brain, they change how you feel, how you percieve things, but they don't give you psychic or devine powers. everything that drugs do to you, no matter how real, are in your head and that's where the effects stay.

[Euphoric]

The Aztecs used hallcinagens to mentally link to the sun

[mrdevious]

The Aztecs used hallcinagens to mentally link to the sun

lol, reminds me of mr.burns singing "good morning sunshine. the earth says hello!"

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

um MrDevious... maybe just my opinion, maybe enlightened opinion, maybe not... but those who mention any need for a "grip on reality" obviously have no grip on reality themselves.


when reality is prone to infinite infinity, there is no grip to be had, everything goes. do not condemn, everything goes, anything can happen, all it takes is that magical power called thought. drugs can induce certian mindsets that can either help or hinder a goal, as i've said; it's all in the mindset.

[mont974x4]

a finite mind will never fully grasp the infinite

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

a finite mind will never fully grasp the infinite

that said, a finite mind could never get a grip on reality, and i do not believe there is such a thing as a finite mind, merely a limited one.

closed mindedness...

[justinsane]

You may remember I posted on here a while back about my missing cat, Snoopy. Anyway, Ive had an idea...
Ive read all about salvia and the effects - basically, its an intense and short lived trip that on higher doses can make you impervious to pain, forget whats taken place, get extremely confused etc. NOT something to be messed around with. Although our cat is still missing after a month and a half (was seen yesterday by some old guy) so Im thinking of ordering some 15x and trying to 'connect' with his spirit, to pinpoint exactly where he is.
Would it be possible to communicate with my cat using salvia or mushrooms? If it helps, I believe that these substances, along with the holy Herb, should only be used for spiritual - not recreational - purposes.

thats a good mentality to have. and dont listen to what people say - theyve never tried it.

YOU try it. you never know what can happen.


"While the firelightâ??s aglow, strange shadows from the flames will grow,
Till things weâ??ve never seen will seem familiar"

theres things in this world that we have not yet discovered, but what and whos to say we cant reach it? whos to say there is no door?

try it.

[harmonicminor]

the thing about salvia is that it shows you what IT wants you to see.
maybe try remote viewing instead or something

[RastaKaze]

hey man-- don't listen to mrdevious, anything is possible. I aggree very much with Shadow Wolf... it's like I've always said, "The limits of human conciousness cannot be measured, for it is an indestructable force in the infinite motion of life."

[harmonicminor]

shamans enter the spirit world to heal people or sometimes kill thier enemies. It is said that one must practice a lot to be able to know what you are doing where you are going while there. It isn't something that happens automatically. you will find most of the time if you are able to actaully have a level 4 or 5 experience that you probably wont even remember smoking Salvia or who you even are.

[MoonStarer420]

....anything is possible.

I don't agree with you, there are definitely some limitations in this Universe that we follow even if we don't want to. Try making a perpetual motion machine and you'll fail every time because of the Conservation of Energy. I donâ??t want to destroy the mystery of the Universe, but if you want to solve problems you have to understand how things work and go from there.

When your shrooming is the table really melting or is it a hallucination? Drugs affect only the brain. They have absolutely no influence on the environment around you. I don't know how the brain works, but I'm pretty certain you won't have any luck with that idea.

You might want to try using tactics that might work. I suggest using some sardines (or what ever Snoopy liked to eat) and a live trap to get him back. If you don't think he'd resent you for it.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

I don't agree with you, there are definitely some limitations in this Universe that we follow even if we don't want to. Try making a perpetual motion machine and you'll fail every time because of the Conservation of Energy. I donâ??t want to destroy the mystery of the Universe, but if you want to solve problems you have to understand how things work and go from there.

When your shrooming is the table really melting or is it a hallucination? Drugs affect only the brain. They have absolutely no influence on the environment around you. I don't know how the brain works, but I'm pretty certain you won't have any luck with that idea.

You might want to try using tactics that might work. I suggest using some sardines (or what ever Snoopy liked to eat) and a live trap to get him back. If you don't think he'd resent you for it.

a perpetual motion machine made with only magnets for energy is possible, and, in fact, i heard of just such a thing had been recently built.

no electricity, no outside force, just magnetism, and a small metal ball... or maybe a few of them, but still...


... and the fact stands that anything is possible, at any given time, anything can happen, but the chances that such illogical things might are zero to none. logic is a thing of the mind, and logic is what created the universe, so it's only logical that logic determines what will and will not happen, and when.

... and dont think it'll ever be OUR flimsy logic behind it, we live in darkness, when we die, we are reborn, because we never learn our lessons, and must constantly evolve untill we DO learn...

... at which point there'll be so much more revealed to us, and so much more for us to learn that we just start all over again... only more evolved... ... to evolve more.


although, we could always construct the matrix, and defy logic on a whim, in our own universe... such is the evolution of the mind/spirit, to create a world with which it can thrive in it's own unique way; the spirit has heven, the soul has the astral and ethereal, the body has the physical, and the ego will one day have the digital; cyber space. who knows after that? perhaps for a change there will be no new consciousness to desire a world of it's own...


but i doubt it, A.I. will likely follow suit.

[MoonStarer420]

a perpetual motion machine made with only magnets for energy is possible, and, in fact, i heard of just such a thing had been recently built.

no electricity, no outside force, just magnetism, and a small metal ball... or maybe a few of them, but still...


Sounds like bull shit to me. A moving magnet induces a current, if you could keep the magnet moving without using energy or losing it then you could have one. But this has never worked.

Yet...if you could prove that more energy was comming out then going in, you would recieve the biggest Nobel prize ever and you would become more famous then Enistein.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

actually, it was equal energy in/out, it was just magnets guiding a ball with magnetif pulls and momentum. the magnets were likely unmoving. i dont actually know, i have not yet seen this, or anything pertaining to it, first hand, this is second hand information which COULD very well be a load of crap lol


but never the less, i am positively certian that magnetism is all you need to generate electricity, OR that it will replace electricity all together.