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P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
01-02-2006, 04:46 AM
Cannabis News NORML - It's Time for a Change!
Free Your Mind - Really?
Posted by CN Staff on December 31, 2005 at 07:50:16 PT
By George Rice, Journal-Advocate Columnist
Source: Journal Advocate

cannabis Colorado -- So now those latter-day hippies in Denver who engineered the passage of a Denver ordinance in violation of state laws prohibiting the possession of marijuana are taking that next step.

They're working on a "citizen initiative" to effect back-door legalization of pot in the state. They claim, through their adopted acronym, that imbibing in an addictive, mind-altering drug is "safer."

Safer than what?

They imply that it's a safer recreational drug than alcohol. But that's a problematical comparison in itself. The very definition of "safer" is subjective. Stoned is stoned, man. Doesn't matter how you get there, a brain running on mind-altering chemicals isn't safe by any standard.

The Denver Post ran a series about a clutch of suburban soccer moms who gather regularly in the garage of an upscale ranchette to do a little weed after they've stashed their offspring in a safer environment. One was quoted as worrying about how she was going to rationalize this when the kids found out.

I got news for that biddy-brain. The kids already know. If the three or four of them are fuming up the place a couple times a week, everyone else in the house can smell it. Makes me wonder about the husbands. And the odds are great that, by the time the kids have reached middle school, they've smelled it somewhere else and will certainly recognize it.

She won't have to rationalize it - they will accept pot's illegal use as OK and she'll be able to hear their explanation at the police station after they're busted at a party. City, state and federal officers are still enforcing existing valid laws, lady.

Another of these alter-adolescents said that it "frees the mind". It does that, all right. It frees the mind of all rational thought. It relieves the mind of the burden of cognitive recognition, of all the restrictions of 21st century reality.

She can float around in her own perfect little universe, free of the responsibility of household and motherhood. And when the school calls to say that her child has been injured in a playground accident, she'll be driving to the school under the influence. Or the whole clutch will go, and have a really good time explaining their joint (pun intended) euphoria to the officer who stops them for running a red light. But her mind will be free, for a little while.

As a police officer I heard these and myriad other rationalizations. And I had to arrest combative kids whose "freed" minds refused to accept that urinating in the middle of a crowded dance floor was not acceptable conduct. Or explain to a stoned kid after the wreck that driving in reverse on a one-way street is not legal, even if the car was pointed in the right direction. And I had to explain to parents that handcuffs are necessary when anyone, even their darling, believes he's Cassius Clay and tries to fight an officer twice his age and strength.

Then there's the rationale that legalizing pot will provide an abundant tax base with which to control its use and sale. Poppycock. If it were taxed at the exorbitant rate that alcohol is, it would increase its illegal use, requiring more cops, prosecutors and judges in inverse proportion to its tax return.

Unlike alcohol, it can be produced in any back yard, basement or attic. Enforcement of its taxation would only compound existing laws prohibiting its production. And scientists have long recognized it as an addictive gateway drug, leading to the use of harder drugs and more profound addiction. And freer minds, I guess.




What the MOTHER FUCK!? If it were legalized and taxed, then it would be LEGAL FOR USE you stupid mother FUCKER!

Gateway theory? Why don't you "Free" -YOUR- fucking mind, you media brainwashed fool! There is not one fucking shred of SCIENTIFIC evidince that smoking weed leads to ANYTHING harder. They used deductive reasoning, which means they looked at the illicit drug users (cocaine, heroine, etc.), and most of them smoke weed on a regular basis too. Why? BECAUSE THEY LIKE DRUGS, PIG. Now, if you took all of the HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of marijuana "addicts", and asked them if they used illicit drugs regularly, YOU WOULDN'T GET A BIG FUCKING PERCENTAGE. Not only that, but there's a big fucking difference between the SCIENTIFIC METHOD and DEDUCTIVE reasoning.

Get your fucking shit straight, pig. Maybe then I'll give you the honor of the title Police Officer. Until you realize that some of the laws you enforce are incorrect, and you stop swallowing propoganda, you remain PIG.

P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
01-02-2006, 04:53 AM
Sorry for the double post, but I'm not finished.

Maybe the HUSBANDS KNOW, you fucking DOLT. Maybe, just maybe, they agree wholeheartedly with their activist wives, and honestly DON'T GIVE A SHIT.

Frees the mind of ALL rational thought? Okay, sound off ALL the stoners here who get so fucked up EVERY time they smoke weed, that they are incapable of any type of mental activity. Including WATCHING TV or FINDING SOMETHING TO EAT THAT TASTES GOOD. Get your words right, pig.

Oh? What is this, a housewife? You chouvanistic PIG! Not only that, but she is RESPONSIBLE and has a JOB more than likely, and because she's so RESPONSIBLE, she knows not to go to her JOB STONED. Or to DRIVE ANYWHERE stoned, you fuck.

Kid thought he was Cassius Clay? Was this weed, meth, or steroids!?

ibreakthings
01-02-2006, 04:56 AM
wtf...."if it was legal then its illegal use would rise"...

VoidLivesOn
01-02-2006, 05:02 AM
Man Penguin I'll tell ya what.

Ima have to read those rants later when I'm sober.

HighBuddy
01-02-2006, 05:18 AM
man penguin that is infuriating, not only is that cop a complete dumbass, but some people are gonna read that and agree with that pig.

"So before you knock it try it first
Youâ??ll see itâ??s a blessing
And not a curse"
-Ben Harper

LegallyBlind
01-02-2006, 06:12 AM
I actually do agree with the gateway theory. Weed was the first drug I used and if I had not smoked pot I would not have done or had the opportunity to do any of the other drugs I've done. I bet weed was also a gateway drug for most of the users on this board.

dopesmoker
01-02-2006, 07:54 AM
I actually do agree with the gateway theory. Weed was the first drug I used and if I had not smoked pot I would not have done or had the opportunity to do any of the other drugs I've done. I bet weed was also a gateway drug for most of the users on this board.

nope...weed was my 2nd or 3rd drug and the amount of people that moved on too other drugs is only 15% or so

Faultydesign
01-02-2006, 08:01 AM
What I think the pig meant by illegal use was that people would produce it for themselves without the proper lisenencing.

But...that is a pile of horse shit...who cares if we smoke a plant that grows on our own land.

Another thing that bothers me is that that pig cites no sources...misinformed dolt.

LegallyBlind
01-02-2006, 08:03 AM
I guaruntee you that more than 15% of the people that try marijuana have tried another drug after that.

GanjaBob
01-02-2006, 09:20 AM
yeah but everyone who smokes weed has the CHOICE whether or not to do the other drugs, its not like the weed sends "snort a line" frequencies to the users brain, its the person thats choosing to do the other drugs its not the weeds fault

pixel
01-02-2006, 10:04 AM
fucking bullshit, that makes me so pissed

the problem is the media doesnt publish any pro-marijuana articles, and even worse, it's taboo for cnn. if cnn did something on it people would probably watch it with an open mind just because it's on cnn, their trusted news source. it needs to be made a real issue, that is the objective that NORML is aiming towards. that is their main objective atm isn't it?

P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
01-02-2006, 10:26 PM
Fuck it, I say we jack like the FOX network for 15 minutes and make our stand.

JetFoi34
01-02-2006, 10:34 PM
hes obviously never smoked pot before - only when you do can you bash it - but odds are you wont

JetFoi34
01-02-2006, 10:36 PM
yeah but everyone who smokes weed has the CHOICE whether or not to do the other drugs, its not like the weed sends "snort a line" frequencies to the users brain, its the person thats choosing to do the other drugs its not the weeds fault

nothing really to do with your post but your avatar is sick as hell

Kid Dynamite
01-02-2006, 10:36 PM
legalising weed would cut down its effect as a gateway drug, because stoners wouldnt asociate much with hard drug users. People who dribnk every day of their life usually dont start using smack, so why should weed users.

JetFoi34
01-02-2006, 10:40 PM
they need to not care about making as much money off it as they could

halo
01-02-2006, 11:16 PM
personally i think it can only be a gateway drug because it is illegal. People will group marijuana with all other illegal drugs and some people (not a lot) will be like ,"well i already tried one illegal drug why not another"

If it were legal it would not be a gateway drug at all!

wutang123456
01-03-2006, 01:53 AM
i'm gonna start a poll about this

Green Screen
01-03-2006, 03:05 AM
No, lets not blame the people who do stupid things, lets pin it all on this
mar-i-wahnah. If he said in the article that he treid it I might have gave him a LITTLE credit, but it still looks like he has no idea what hes talking about.
I'd like to free his mind... from his body.

TipTIP
01-03-2006, 03:11 AM
"Unlike alcohol, it can be produced in any back yard, basement or attic." oh then i guess homebrew doesn't exist? there's so much stupid stuff in this article that there's no need pointing out anything but the whole article.

P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
01-03-2006, 03:27 AM
"Unlike alcohol, it can be produced in any back yard, basement or attic." oh then i guess homebrew doesn't exist? there's so much stupid stuff in this article that there's no need pointing out anything but the whole article.
I was going to rant on about that, but I was trying to meet the deadline for post edits. Wanna know how to make alcohol? You need a jar, a thin nail, a hammer, some water, and either a fruit or anything sugary, plus some yeast. You take the nail and hammer and poke some very thin holes in the top of the jar for air circulations. Then, you mix the fruit/sugar, water, and yeast up in the jar. More sugar and yeast means more alcohol. Let it ferment a couple weeks, strain it, and enjoy!

GanjaBob
01-03-2006, 03:41 AM
You want to know what i hate .... my mom always says that she took "two puffs of pot and didnt inhale" and she didnt like it an dnever tried it again. ive also heard this kind of thing before like a quote from bill clinton said somthign about him trying it in england but 'not inhaling' first of all what does that even mean, second i think its bullshit when people say that they took one puff, obviously if your trying it then you want to get high and nobodys stupid enough to think that one hit will do that... yes very random but it just crossed my mind

TipTIP
01-03-2006, 04:51 AM
you can still get high if you hold it in your mouth for like 30+ seconds. so maybe clinton was saying he got high and admitting it?

Brennan
01-04-2006, 03:04 AM
I want to see what that freak thinks about crack. Fucking moron. It's pigs like that that've never smoked a joint in their life that ruin it for everyone. I got news for him. People smoke pot all the time and don't crash cars or fight cops. Sounds like they were drunk or on something they didn't wanna say. I mean when somewhen says their high everyone assumes weed and weed looks alot better than alot of other drugs. His mom prolly gets high all the time and is too scared to tell him cause the narc bastard would prolly bust his own mother. I'm done.

Kryzco
01-04-2006, 06:41 AM
yeah but everyone who smokes weed has the CHOICE whether or not to do the other drugs, its not like the weed sends "snort a line" frequencies to the users brain, its the person thats choosing to do the other drugs its not the weeds fault
thank you for takin the words right outta my mouth, its true, its not like weed is putting a gun to your head, and saying ok now that you like me you will also try other shit. There are so many people that are satisfied with smoking herb and nothing else, if anything, alcohol is more of the gateway drug than anything, I drank way before I smoked, and after hearing how safe weed is for you than compared to alcohol, I rest well with my decision. I wish there was a damn national vote for the legalization, the result would shock the world!

Not Enough Herb
01-04-2006, 06:47 AM
ok the gateway theory is BULLSHIT

the only reason weed is seen as a gateway drug is because it is a very safe, widely used and easly obtainable drug. if coke or herion was like this, they would be condisered gateway drugs too.

fuck that stupid fuckin pig

man im pissed

later