hey i need some advice

[downXwithXtheXclown]

i have never smoked weed before.

i was wondering the easiest way to make a bong or a joint or whatever. i just need to know the most simple way, because i am new to all of it.

could somebody give me directions or instructions on how to make one really easily.
i also heard that you could make one with just a pop can and indent it in the middle with a book side, then poke holes on the indentation, then just start the weed on fire when it is over the holes. but i dont know if that is the most simple method.

thankyou for all your help

[Day Dreamin Faze]

make freinds that smoke and smoke with them dont over do it your first time

[downXwithXtheXclown]

well i want to go with my friends to smoke with them. but im grounded for the next three weeks, and i cant go to their house. and im only 14 so i cant drive or anything. i have nowhere to do it except by myself in my room.

[Mole2k4]

well,
you can do this, although it's not really the safest way, as its plastic.


...........

Get a pepsi bottle, or equivalent, get a compass, pair of scissors, whatever,
then puncture the bottle about midway,
fill it with water to the hole, then get a pen case (a plastic one, that has open ends on both sides, such as a bic or plastic biro) remove the pen and tip (obviously) then shotgun.

Roll a joint, position the joint so that the end of it is inside of the bic, have the bic at a 45 degree angle, with the tip inside the bottle, being submerged,
then pop your mouth round the top, and inhale hard.

This isn't the best way to do it, but it can be done in about 5 minutes with household items, finding a container for the hash/weed that is small enough, and metal, so you can just light the weed would take longer. :D

[Mole2k4]

and if your 14, not being funny, don't do it solo.
first time you do a bong, you WILL get MASHED.
For example....
First time you drink, it affects you more.
First time you smoke, your chest hurts, you cough and your eyes water, and you feel really lightheaded.
First time you smoke weed, you feel dizzy, chances are if it's good stuff, and you do the setup I told you, you wont remember anything, plus if you do, it will be a daze, if your grounded, your mum WILL smell it, it has a very distinctive smell, plus you won't make much sense, and you'll be laughing your ass off, or be unbelievably afraid you'll be caught.

Plus as its plastic, and you don't put it out, it COULD THEORETICALLY light the plastic pen, which will release toxins, that will stink, plus the plastic will fall to your carpet, set it on fire, then bam.

I know it's over the top, but in all honesty, don't do it solo for the first few times.

[downXwithXtheXclown]

okay thankyou very much. but how do i roll a joint? i am really really new to all this but i just got some new weed and i dont know anything at all, as to how to roll a joint or how to make anything.

the only thing i do know is one way but i dont know if it works.

okay first you take a plastic can. lay the can on its side. then get a book and puncture the side of the book about half way down the can. then poke a lot of tiny holes in the punctured area. then set your weed on top of the holes and light it. then you just inhale from the part of the pop can that you usually drink out of. i heard that somewhere but i dont know if it works. does anyone know if it works?

[socks]

this has got some rolling techniques tht might help u out...this ones the easiest...http://www.passthejoint.com/rolling_saturday.php altho for my first time this would of daunted me soooo...

id advise u to hv a practice with tabacco first jus so u dnt end up searching for weed in ur carpet lol

seen as its ur first time u might jus wna stick to one slim king rizla..pack it (rmbr to layer if u use tabacco so u dnt side burn) roll a roach put in place n carefully roll between ur fingers...once it feels comfortable u cn roll it up jus try n keep it tight :)

it tks a lot of time so dnt worry if it buggers up for a while lol

good luck n keep us updated
xxx

[downXwithXtheXclown]

and if your 14, not being funny, don't do it solo.
first time you do a bong, you WILL get MASHED.
For example....
First time you drink, it affects you more.
First time you smoke, your chest hurts, you cough and your eyes water, and you feel really lightheaded.
First time you smoke weed, you feel dizzy, chances are if it's good stuff, and you do the setup I told you, you wont remember anything, plus if you do, it will be a daze, if your grounded, your mum WILL smell it, it has a very distinctive smell, plus you won't make much sense, and you'll be laughing your ass off, or be unbelievably afraid you'll be caught.

Plus as its plastic, and you don't put it out, it COULD THEORETICALLY light the plastic pen, which will release toxins, that will stink, plus the plastic will fall to your carpet, set it on fire, then bam.

I know it's over the top, but in all honesty, don't do it solo for the first few times.


okay thankyou. would the weed be bad after three weeks? or can i continue to save it until i can do it with my friends?

[downXwithXtheXclown]

this has got some rolling techniques tht might help u out...this ones the easiest...http://www.passthejoint.com/rolling_saturday.php altho for my first time this would of daunted me soooo...

id advise u to hv a practice with tabacco first jus so u dnt end up searching for weed in ur carpet lol

seen as its ur first time u might jus wna stick to one slim king rizla..pack it (rmbr to layer if u use tabacco so u dnt side burn) roll a roach put in place n carefully roll between ur fingers...once it feels comfortable u cn roll it up jus try n keep it tight :)

it tks a lot of time so dnt worry if it buggers up for a while lol

good luck n keep us updated
xxx


okay thankyou. but i heard that you have to keep a ciggerette filter and put that in there? im sorry i am really stupid because i am so new to this.

[socks]

no no dont ever usa a fag filter u wont get any of the godness! in t bk of the pack of rizla theres a piece of thin green card if u tk tht out n rip a bit off u cn roll a nice one :)

n btw...its ok to not know everything...we all start somewhere :)

smoke safe...but most of all enjoy
happy stonin :D

[Mole2k4]

it COULD work, but it's the biggest waste known to man,
You'll get like 25% of what you burn that way, may as well just light it and suck the smoke in.

Trust me mate, that is POINTLESS.

to roll a joint, you need rizla papers, tobacco (unless you make a complete weed based joint which is kinda dumb), your weed, and if you want, some cardboard/part of the rizla pack to make a roach so as the tobacco/weed doesn't go into your mouth when puffing (basically a filter).

If you have all that, then attempt to roll a few with tobacco, chances are if you do it with weed, you'll drop half of it.

There are many different way's of rolling, for this example, I'm just going to presume you are using normal rizla's.

The rizla will have a crease in it, pop some stuff in there, then with your left hand, take the left side, and with your right hand, take the right side.
Make sure that the gum *sticky bit* is at the top.
Then slowly and gently squeeze and roll up with your thumbs so the tobacco is covered by the paper completely, then with your forefingers, push the rizla over your thumbs and push it down and remove your thumb.
so then,your kinda holding the whole thing, using your forefinger and your middle finger of each hand, then with your thumb at the bottom roll upwards, this will make it tighter otherwise the whole thing is pointless. then lick the gum, and roll it up completely.

This is a terrible explanation, plus there are easier ways, but they would take ages to explain, plus you have to learn to do it unaided.

Don't put your weed in for the first few attempts, chances are you'll drop some.

Now, I just want to say, I think it's a BADDD IDEA to do this, alone, specially at 14.

But if you want to do it, who am I to stop you.

[downXwithXtheXclown]

no no dont ever usa a fag filter u wont get any of the godness! in t bk of the pack of rizla theres a piece of thin green card if u tk tht out n rip a bit off u cn roll a nice one :)

n btw...its ok to not know everything...we all start somewhere :)

smoke safe...but most of all enjoy
happy stonin :D


okay now you are probably getting sick of all my questions, but i have another one lol ........ what is rizla?

[Day Dreamin Faze]

If you are 14 dont smoke in your room you will only end up getting caught up its not worth it, take the time and chill outside :)

[Mole2k4]

socks is right, dont use a fag filter, use the roach from some cardboard or some green paper from the back of the rizla.

Although I dunno if they do that in the usa.

In my opinion don't roll a king size, the paper is thinner, plus you won't put as much weed in, you won't need an awful lot if your doing it by yourself for the first time.

[socks]

packs of papers u buy in shops like newsagents tht u roll joints with.

u gt different coloured ones depending on t thickness

u need to go for either blues or silvers n thyl be called slim kings

heres a piccie...

[socks]

At the end of the day we can only all give u advice from our own methods of both smoking and rolling...try as many techniques as u cn n ul find one tht suits u...everyone is unique in the way thy roll :)

tht cn b t beauty of smoking joints...u get to create a masterpiece n thn enjoy it :D

i think ima gna create another one of mine now...

[downXwithXtheXclown]

thankyou everyone for all your help. do you know any home materials that i can use to make filters and use as paper? because i live in the USA and in stores here they cant legally sell any of those papers i dont think.

[Mole2k4]

dont use silver, they are king size.

Use red. they are average size.

Problem is your 14, so can't readily get your hands on that stuff, as you need to be over 16 in uk, maybe 18 in america, i dunno.

If either of your parents smoke, you can try this, but this is a shit way to do it......

Steal one of their smokes, cut the filter off with some scissors, squeeze some of the contents out, and mix it up with some weed, then put as much back in as you can, not forgetting to add a roach.

That is a SHIT way of doing it, but because of your age, buying papers is going to be hard, unless one of your parent's smoke roll ups.

[socks]

yeeeah rizla will b legal...unless this is jus something ive never heard of :confused:

if u do get them n theres no card as mole said u cn use t packet and if u cnt get t papers id jus go for a bong but b gentle...go easy on t bud bcs u gt more high :D

tht link i gave u shows u how to mk a few bongs too incase u need it

[Mole2k4]

I knew you was going to ask that, down with the clown.

THERE ARE NO SUBSTITUES FOR SMOKING PAPERS OR, THE USE OF A NORMAL FAG.
PAPER WILL IGNITE AND BURN IN ABOUT 2 SECONDS.
as for the filter, some thing cardboard or thick paper or whatever it is in the US will suffice, but the paper HAS to be either rolling paper, or a normal smoke paper.

[downXwithXtheXclown]

how do i add a roach to that method tho? and what do i use for the roach? because i have no clue what a rizla is.

[Mole2k4]

rizla is illegal to him, as he's 14 socks.
Like you shouldn't be able to buy smokes before your 16, but I was buying them from 15 or so.
It's all swings and roundabout's mate.
glad im 21, saves all the effort, although I still get id'd for fags in some shops,
stupid indians.
lol

[socks]

dammit lol i cnt believe i never thought about u bein underage to buy thm lol

moles ideas clever...u could try tht if u wanted to try a joint otherwise as i said bfr id gor for a bong

[downXwithXtheXclown]

I knew you was going to ask that, down with the clown.

THERE ARE NO SUBSTITUES FOR SMOKING PAPERS OR, THE USE OF A NORMAL FAG.
PAPER WILL IGNITE AND BURN IN ABOUT 2 SECONDS.
as for the filter, some thing cardboard or thick paper or whatever it is in the US will suffice, but the paper HAS to be either rolling paper, or a normal smoke paper.


okay. so for the paper.... can i just use the fag and take the contents out like you just said, then take regular paper to make a roach? and then how would i attach the roach.
im so sorry that i am asking so many questions by the way.

[Mole2k4]

For petes sake dude.

OK:

Roach, cardboard some other kind of stiff but manageable piece of paper. note, it cannot be a normal piece of paper, it has to be something that doesn't light easy.
This is used to keep the end you smoke open, so you don't try and suck really hard to get a hit, and it prevents small bits of tobacco and weed going in your mouth.

Rizla: most commonly used make of rolling paper in the UK. with this, you buy a bag of tobacco and use the paper to go around the tobacco so you can smoke it, this is basically a cheaper alternative than buying cigarettes.....

[downXwithXtheXclown]

okay i am only 14 and by the way im a girl. to be able to even walk into tabbaco or ciggerette stores in the USA you have to be 18. i have no idea what i am going to use then.


i thought that i could just take the fag, take out the contents, and put the weed in, then for the filter, i would just roll up paper and attach it to the weed fag? but how would i attach the filter?

[downXwithXtheXclown]

im so sorry everyone i just dont understand a lot of this. : (

[Mole2k4]

ok........ ASCCII drawing time.
_____________
(____I________)
Filter, tobacco
This is a cigarette.

Take half of the contents of the ciggarette out....

_______
(___I___=======)
Filter,Full Empty

then mix your weed and the tobacco you took out, together, then pour as much back in as you can, and use something small to poke it in so it's nice and tight.....
_____________
(____I________)
filter, weed+ tobacco

Cut of the filter...
_______
(_______)
weed and tobacco in a roll of paper.

Get some thin cardboard, and create a roach, basically roll it up sideways, so its a spiral, it will KINDA look like this
@

Pop the roach into one side of your smoke
________
@ -------> (________)
weed and tobacco.
Just push it in gently..

Now your weed and tobacco will have paper around it and a roach.

Jeeze louise lol

[socks]

right...tk t fag and tk out its contents...mix some with weed and refill. then carefully remove t fags filter mk ur own roach and put it in t same place tht the filter came from...

does tht mk sense?!

[Mole2k4]

fuckin hope so socks, took me ages to draw all that, lol ;)

[socks]

blimey mole! ur good!

i have to ask r u stoned right now?! becasuse thts impressive if u r lol

[downXwithXtheXclown]

ooooohhh!!! omg thankyou so much i get it now!
for the roach, can i roll up part of an index card?


thankyou so much for all your help everyone. i really appreciate it.

[llamaman666]

SNEAK OUT!!!!! and smoke it with friends. I fyour gonna smoke, u should be able to go outside at nite.

[Mole2k4]

Yes you can use an index card, that is FINE!
finally, she gets it,
Women :rolleyes:
lol
No mate, I'm not stoned if only! Just waitin for mine to bud then I'll be stoned central!
lol.
I'll prolly pick up this week tho, as I have a few weeks left.
She can't sneak out, or smoke it with friends, my advice is wait till everyone is asleep, pop your head out the window, and smoke it, making sure you spray LOADS of smelly stuff, like perfume, and leave your window open a good few hours, apparently tobacco smoke will dissapate within 2 hours naturally if the window is left open, THIS IS BULLSHIT, DO NOT TAKE ANY CHANCES. IF YOU CAN, SMOKE OUTDOORS, OTHERWISE BE PREPARED TO SPRAY YOUR ROOM WITH DEODERANT, PERFUME, WHATEVER WILL REPLACE THE SMELL, AND LEAVE THE WINDOW OPEN.
If the us sells febreeze, or some other kind of odour remover, BLITZ your room with that.

[downXwithXtheXclown]

okay thankyou soooo much for all your help : )

and usually you stay high for about like 4 hours after that right?

[Mole2k4]

you probably will if it's your first time, yeah, DWTC you have msn?

[downXwithXtheXclown]

you probably will if it's your first time, yeah, DWTC you have msn?


yeah i have msn but i dont know how to work it lol
i dont know why but it wont let me login to it.

[socks]

ummm excuse me mole... "women"

i am a woman also so pls do not roll ur eyes in tht way lol

U should pick up too in preperation for ur yummy yield...come hv a toke with me :D

u could try tht trick i think lola suggested too...a toilet tube with those smeely sheets u stick in t washing machine...blow ur smoke out through there but still mk sure u hang riiight out tht window :)

[Mole2k4]

fair enough. was gonna say add me if you needed any help i'm on most days.
and it's easier and faster than this.
no worries.

[Mole2k4]

ok ok....
Girls..

:rolleyes:

*flutters eyelashes at socks*
lol

[downXwithXtheXclown]

okay well thankyou very very much i appreciate it a lot

[llamaman666]

yea, u can roll, but thats a harsh way to start. I would smoke a handpipe my first time and was coughin for 15 minutes. Find a friend with a bong or vaporizer and use that. Vaporizers are weird, so that mite not b a good idea. But a bong is a good idea, makin em is easy, u could also just order one online using cash.

[KillaBuzz]

down wit the clown, to make it a hell ov alot easier for u, since it is yer first time, id just get a smoke, empty out the tobacco, and replace it with weed. cut the filter 1/4 or 1/2 way so u have half ov it left. yes this is a waste but i dont think yer gunna care becuz u will still get stoned and it will b a more comfy high fer yer first time. i think since your 14 and a girl id recommend doin this instead ov rollin a joint or doin a bong. some 16 yr old guys i know get too fucked off a joint so id b careful, i juss think keeping the filter on would make the high more enjoyable. and dont smoke it inside, go outside where noone can see u or smell it.
PeAcE

[socks]

i want u on ur knees begging for forgivness :P

dont u give me any of tht *fluttering eyelash* shit...tehe it kinda works tho

omg! girls! i only jus got tht! i'll hv u knw i am not a girl i am 18 so i guess tht mks a young lady...

hmmm now those eyelash flutterings hv really gone dwn t drain lol

[Mole2k4]

socks,
jeeze, i was refferin to the clown when i said girls ;)

Stop busting my balls.
Unless your single and looking haha!
trying to pull on cannabis.com! :eek: :eek:

still worth a shot, no?

[socks]

lol ok ok ur forgiven thn...

"still worth a shot, no?" HE SHOOTS...HE SCORES!!!! AND THE CROWD GO WILD!!! lol i dnt c y nt ;)

[Mole2k4]

woohooo!
Also, another cheap way, thinking of toilet rolls, is make a joint, puncture the toilet hole, light the spliff and pop it in the puncture, then cover one end with your hand, and pop your mouth in the other an suck.

sod the crowd ! Mole goes wild!!!!
lol
if only ;)
your like all the others ill bet, just a tease lol

[socks]

pop on chat if u fancy exchanging addies...i'll be waiting ;)

[Day Dreamin Faze]

Rizla is not illegal in USA im in california and have no problem buying rolling papers at any gas station that sells tobaco and/or tobaco products.

[rnf232s]

Wouldnt it be easier for clown to just make a steam roller out of a paper towel roll or toilet paper roll? Probably wouldnt be as nice, but would be a shit ton easier to do especially if it is clown's first time?

[downXwithXtheXclown]

how would i make that?

[Mole2k4]

dont know im afraid.

[rnf232s]

Probably a paper towel roll would be the best since it is longer. What you would do is on one end take like a knife or something and make a hole in it around the size of a dime or a nickel. Then you would take a piece of foil and mold it into a bowl shaped thing that would fit into this hole. The foil would have small holes in it that you would poke into it. Then you would put your weed in the foil. Then when you smoke you would hold then end close the end with the weed closed with the palm of your hand and put your mouth on the other end. Light it and start to suck. Then you can release your palm and replace it there as needed to suck smoke from the roll with or without burning more weed. I will try to find a pic of it online, if not I can make one real quick and post it on here for you.

[DrinkTheBongWater]

Dude here is an easy way to make a decent smoking device. Here goes.

1. Find a plastic pop bottle and cut a hole in the side about the size of a quarter
2. Poke another small hole somewhere else on the side that you can cover up with your finger.
3. Get some aluminum foil and put it over the bigger hole and indent it into a small bowl.(Make sure its in pretty air tight and secure.)
4. Take a toothpick of pin and poke about 5-6 holes in the foil bowl.

Now how it works. Put the weed in the bowl. Have a lighter ready. Put your finger over the smaller hole. Light the weed as you suck in slowly and wait until the pop bottle fills with smoke. Take your finger off the small hole and inhale all the smoke. Repeat until fucked.

[socks]

i jus thought whilst im sittin here totally baked out my brains tht u cn gt a hig coke bottle or whtevr..u knw oh god im goin loopy already...mk a hole at t bottom on t side about 2inchse up thn mk a foil cap(by wrapping t foil over t top of t open bottle) for t top n poke a few small holes in it...u thn remove t foil filllt bottle with water whilst u hv ur finder over t hole replace t foil with some bud on it burn it gently n as u do let ur finger off t hole slowlt so water releases...ul see t smoke all collect n thn whn ur done u cn whip off the foil put hand ovr t top n cover t lil hole give it a good shake n fill ur lungs frm t top...maaan i sure wish i hd a bottle right now id b out there i my kitchen gettin fuckin mashed lol

time for me too zonk out...i apologise for any mambo jambo in all this lol

peace x

[rnf232s]

Okay, here are some pics of what I was talking about earlier. The first is the paper towel roll with the hole. The second is the foil bowl. The third is how you would hold it. After you burn some you would release your palm so you could clear the paper towel roll of any smoke that was in there at the time and then repeat process multiple times in the same breath till you fill your lungs with smoke.

[Phresh as it Gets]

i think that a joint will be too mush work for a beginner, ever heard of a tinnee (tin-ee)? prolly the easiest cheapest thing you can do, just roll a small square of tinfoil around a pen, take the pen out and kink the end so you can smoke thru it but the weed wonc tome thru, its a make shift pipe, really easy and really cheap

[DrGonzo]

to the clown: even though its a good idea, don't lean out your window the first time you smoke weed. you will wake up cold, alone, and in your garden.

but the steamroller is a simple, effective way to get blitzd, just go slow your first time because it will be harsher than anything you can imagine (unless you happen to smoke unfiltered cigarettes, which I doubt). use scotch tape around the edges of the tinfoil to make it airtight if you need to.

[downXwithXtheXclown]

thankyou everyone for all your help. i am going up north sometime this week though, do you think it would be safe for me to smoke the weed by myself on the beach, far away from my parents cabin? so that they wont see me? but i dont know if it would be safe there.

[KillaBuzz]

srry i dint take time to read all ov the postz, but if u did end up smokin the other nite, u kno wut the high iz like. i think if uve smoked once b4, u shood b fine az long az u make sure nobody else is around who cood bust u fer smokin. juss take it really e-z, smoke a lil bit n if yer not high enuff after 10-15 minz, smoke a lil more.
PeAcE

[downXwithXtheXclown]

srry i dint take time to read all ov the postz, but if u did end up smokin the other nite, u kno wut the high iz like. i think if uve smoked once b4, u shood b fine az long az u make sure nobody else is around who cood bust u fer smokin. juss take it really e-z, smoke a lil bit n if yer not high enuff after 10-15 minz, smoke a lil more.
PeAcE


i didnt end up smoking the other night because my mom never ended up even going to sleep at all and then my dad wolk up at 4;30 for work. so i dont know what the high is like. there are no people where im going to go though so i already know i wouldnt get caught. we and a couple other people are about the only people on the entire bay. i was just wondering if something could happen if i was all by myself on the beach. i really dont want to faint or something and then wake up later and not have a clue where i am at.
thanks for your help : )

[geoffrowley19]

lol unless you smoke a shitload, u wont faint...im sure on the beach by yourself would be fine, but tough to light a bowl with and shit

[kyle]

just use the can..ive done it it works fine, if u want some good info on pot and everything about pop and how to roll and make pipes and the proper way to smoke and etc. go to www.smokingwithstyle.com