sad day in california...

[YayAreaPnjbi]

As i'm typing this stanley tookie williams is probably getting executed or already dead. i for one do not support the death penalty and this is just whack i mean the guy wrote antigang books for kids aand was a nobel prize nominee, for the most part not even someone in the general public could get a nobel prize nominee, this is sad... RIP Stanley "Tookie" Williams. I'm watching Channell 2 news as i type this, im merely 40 miles away from all this happening right now. =(

[activedenial]

He got what was coming to him!!!

[CocaCola]

I fully support Arnold Schwarzenegger's decision...











Pffthahahaha! I still can't believe he's the fucking governer.

[420kidder]

Depending on which day it is, or my mood, my opinion may be different. I feel so many people die every day, how can it be that big of a deal for just one more. On the other hand, if that one more person was me or someone that I cared about, I wouldn't like it very much. :mad:

I haven't been paying attention to the whole thing, but I figure there's probably some sort of 'reason' why he's getting killed.

[Myth1184]

Good riddance, he was a convicted murderer. SO what if he was a nobel peace prize nominee...SO WAS ADOPH HITLER...FIDEL CASTRO..ARAFAT. Thats not saying alot. Plus its EASY AS HELL to become a nominee..all you need is a professor or politician to send a letter nominating you. Hell I could be one.

[Haz]

All you little wannabe-clever fucks saying how happy you are that he's dead should go eat some of your own feces.

Whether or not he was guilty of his charges is beside the matter. Killing him won't bring back the people he killed, and in the last years he has contributed positively to society. I mean, the point of prison is to cause people to reform. I'm not saying by writing some children's books he's made up for what he's done. Nothing can excuse the crimes he commited. But killing him was pointless. It's kind of hypocritical that the victim's family are so anxious to have him ousted. That's just pure blood lust for revenge. He should have been left to rot in prison.

But it doesn't matter now. Whatever the case, a life has been lost, through the injection of a lethal substance into his vein. If anything, it's sickening, and it's sad that more death resulted from a case in which too much death was already present. Let's just hope whatever justice is necessary is served wherever his spirit finds itself.

The whole fight fire with fire thing just never made sense to me, especially when concerning murder.

[YayAreaPnjbi]

Well...Time of death 12:36...RIP Tookie Williams. I'm gonna light one up for him...

[CocaCola]

It just proves that the prison system doesn't work... there is no reform but only punishment.

[Haz]

It just proves that the prison system doesn't work... there is no reform but only punishment.

Agreed.

[CocaCola]

Oh yeah, and Tookie... http://ahnoldkillstookie.ytmnd.com/

[Trichome Creator]

They don't even give people a chance to reform anymore. Is sending a crack addict to jail helping him? Or just hurting him more? Point made.

[CocaCola]

But he smoked crack and Cocaine is illegal! HE MUST BE PUNISHED SEVERELY, cause I mean... HE BROKE A LAW! :O

[Haz]

Same idea with mary jane.

Bottom line is we live under the oppression of a very, very fucked up government. Buut, I guess it could be worse. :rolleyes:

[sweetnhighz]

AMEN HAZE!

[daima]

If we keep allowing our "leaders" to promote fear in order to get them elected, and then demand and eye for eye , a tooth for a tooth, from those charged with crimes, we will one day be left with nothing but a bunch of blind toothless people in our country.
When a human being is strapped to a table and shot-up with poison, it isnt Saddam or Bin Laden we need to worry about. It' us that we need to worry about. We just need to look at one another.

dai*ma
There's a hole in Tookies arm where they claim justice can be found
A nobel peace prize winners ideas are forever silenced in the ground
Maybe it's those in charge who dont want peace and forgiveness among those in the population
Dont kill for me and expect me to be full of elation :(

[marylanddude2005]

Some good and some bad ideas floating through here.

It's a long-standing debate as to what the purpose of our legal system is. Should it seek justice, or should it seek to rehabilitate people so they can one day contribute to society again?

I am personally against the death penalty, but I do think whether or not you embrace it goes to whether or not you think the judicial system needs to seek justice, and then what exactly justice means. If you do think it's about justice, then what is the just response to murder? And if it's not about justice, then there is simply no leg to stand on for capital punishment.

Personally, I think it's not a good idea to try to convince people not to kill people by killing people ourselves. Idiotic, really.

[GiveMeThatBuzz87]

lol everyone here getting worked up about tookie is just dumb...if u support him then u should be listening to him and hes saying that he doesnt want all the talking about him being executed and all the anger ect...and if ur against him the mans gonna be put to death how would u like to know the exact time and how u were gonna die? kinda scarey..well im netural i dont know if he did kill the ppl and if he did then i do think he deserves to die weither or not he wrote books and stuff he still killed those ppl. they cant read any of his books so ummm yeah. its like me smoking weed then writing anti weed books....doesnt make much sense...plus the crips didnt go away think of all the ppl that die daily or have died bc of him....idk what to think or say. whats a life in jail anyways..? behind bars eating shit food fights and gay shit happening all day? i think i rather be killed to..it is what it isthats all im saying so everyone needs to just shut up with the fighting and whinning either way....RIP tookie

[robert42]

Im not fussed

[Rarrr]

Killing someone instead of reforming them is a waste of human potential. One person achieves a lot in their lifetime.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Im indifferent. Part of me wants to forgive the guy the other part says remember this guy shot one of 4 guys in the back. I dont know what the solution is???????

[gunner90210]

Americans need to learn that the death penalty is wrong.

[Reefer Rogue]

He founded the Crips and mudered 4 people. He didn't deserve to be saved. I'm definately in favour of capitol punishment for cold blooded killers and peodos.

[Psycho4Bud]

While his buds were taking the cash he put a man belly down to the floor and fired a shot gun into his back...he thought the gurgling noise was pretty funny the way it sounds. Who feels sorry for this piece of shit?

[likemclever]

Whether or not he was guilty of his charges is beside the matter.

No, actually that is exactly the matter at hand.


And considering he has already been convicted that puts that issue to rest.


He was not sent there to be reformed he was sent there to die.


He murdered like four people and those are just the ones we know about. Did he turn his life around? Good I hope he did. You donâ??t just get to walk around and kill whoever you want and then decide that youâ??re a changed man. Godâ??s forgiveness may be infinite but mankindâ??s is not. If you make the decision to take someoneâ??s life than you better be willing to pay for that life with your own. This is not a new rule. He made his own life and death decision when he pulled the trigger.

[Reefer Rogue]

*Murdered. :dance: (was too late to edit last post)

[DirkZooDiggler]

Besides personally murdering four people...as you know, he co-founded the Crips---they have probably killed hundreds since it's start in the 70s (or whenever)...not to mention the many lives they will take in the future. Justice.

[thcbongman]

Prison should stop calling themselves "Rehabilitation"

Cuz it's not true. At least he tried to do some good, and that he should be spared his life, and live with his own internal suffering. I feel that's more punishing than death. I think tookie wanted to die. Who the hell would want to live with the fact he killed so many people?

[daima]

We now have several members of the USA congress/senate who are in favor of killing and or amputating the limbs of those caught with cannabis. I wonder how many here would be in favor of a law that targets them? After all, we are breaking the law of the land and if the law of the land turns out to be death for cannabis users, then what?
dai* :confused: ma

[DirkZooDiggler]

We didn't kill anybody tho

[thcbongman]

We now have several members of the USA congress/senate who are in favor of killing and or amputating the limbs of those caught with cannabis. I wonder how many here would be in favor of a law that targets them? After all, we are breaking the law of the land and if the law of the land turns out to be death for cannabis users, then what?
dai* :confused: ma

That's the day I buy a shotgun, and barricade my doors.

[likemclever]

QUOTE=thcbongman]Prison should stop calling themselves "Rehabilitation"

Cuz it's not true. At least he tried to do some good, and that he should be spared his life, and live with his own internal suffering. I feel that's more punishing than death. I think tookie wanted to die. Who the hell would want to live with the fact he killed so many people?[/QUOTE]

Donâ??t mistake death row with prison. Death row is inside of a prison only because having a special place called â??house of deathâ?� would be tacky.

No he didnâ??t want to die he waited for clemency until the end. But I canâ??t say as I fault him for that. It must be a very strange felling to have a calendar with the day your gonna die on it.



We now have several members of the USA congress/senate who are in favor of killing and or amputating the limbs of those caught with cannabis.

killing/amputating reallyâ?¦no way who in the congress/senate said that.

[litespeed]

Put a new out look on it: How many have they been leting out of late, they have found they did NOT do it!!!
would like to go to Death, just for smoking a little cannabis that what it is coming too!

[snowultra]

daima is so full of shit---name any or all those who want to kill or amputating pot heads. i guarntee he doesnt name one person of congress or the house who has said such a thing. some might think it, but they never said it for the record. find me any documation of congress or the house saying these things. that would cruel and unusal punishment and they themselves would be imprisoned. not even the nazi right wing is dumb enough to say something that stupid. stop making shit up

[Reefer Rogue]

We now have several members of the USA congress/senate who are in favor of killing and or amputating the limbs of those caught with cannabis. I wonder how many here would be in favor of a law that targets them? After all, we are breaking the law of the land and if the law of the land turns out to be death for cannabis users, then what?
dai* :confused: ma

Shh.

[eg420ne]

I went googleling "smoke a joint lose a limb" lol..
http://pdxnorml.org/980108.html#nwn
www.geocities.com/capitolhill/congress/8319/crazy3.html

[LOVElife]

I'm gonna smoke a joint for Arnie tonight!!!!!

C'mon Flame me!!!!!!!

lol

[robert42]

SAME HERE flame US!

[jahjahjahjah]

RIP Stan.

[LOVElife]

Big Up Arnie Swarz :D

[daima]

you cant be saved if you dont sin.
dai*ma

[CocaCola]

I have an idea... for every muderer there is, we should sacrafice 2 animals. That should take care of the life for a life thing, right? :rolleyes:

[Nochowderforyou]

As i'm typing this stanley tookie williams is probably getting executed or already dead. i for one do not support the death penalty and this is just whack i mean the guy wrote antigang books for kids aand was a nobel prize nominee, for the most part not even someone in the general public could get a nobel prize nominee, this is sad... RIP Stanley "Tookie" Williams. I'm watching Channell 2 news as i type this, im merely 40 miles away from all this happening right now. =(

Who fuckin cares! Thousands of hungry children, die every day. They did NOTHING wrong but be born and have no choice but to starve and be hungry.

People are shot down every day, raped, murdered, beat to death, and 90% of those cases are for no fuckin reason.

This Tookie formed gnag violence, look at it today. He shot and killed a man in the 70's while he was FACE DOWN, shot him twice in the back. Ya, just like a blood or a Crip, to shoot someone when their face down or unarmed.

He killed another person and their daughter for under $100.

Tookie should burn in fuckin hell and I hope he does. When all of the Bloods and Crips get to him, they'll be burning as well.

RIP Tookie? You support a killer, a violent man? He wrote those books because he was forced to by the law. He would have neve done it on his own free will.

[CocaCola]

They don't understand that Tookie took innocent lives... they just know that he tried to write a book about it. That's noble!1

[Nochowderforyou]

They don't understand that Tookie took innocent lives... they just know that he tried to write a book about it. That's noble!1

Exactly.

First he was forced to write an article or book on gang violence by the state, he reads the bible, feels bad, and now he's changed? No way man. Give that man a 40, a gat and pump some Grandmaster Flash, he'll go right back to shooting people (when they are unarmed or not looking)

[thcbongman]

They don't understand that Tookie took innocent lives... they just know that he tried to write a book about it. That's noble!1

Of course he took innocent lives. But anybody who celebrates, or wishes his death, is exactly the kind of person he is. Only you didn't kill (I assume.)

As far as I'm concerned, he was sentenced, he did good things (forced my ass, he could've chosen isolation), and he has to live with the fact he took lives from others. Justice served. It would've been more fitting to lock him up for the rest of his life, than having him killed based on vindictiveness.

[CocaCola]

Ahaha, Grandmaster Flash... I love how you used that insted of something gay. Thank you.

I'm indifferent to the Tookie thing but I still don't like the fact that when someone is sentanced to death that they have to live another twenty years before they get snuffed. Trading lifes?

[dopesmoker]

Who fuckin cares! Thousands of hungry children, die every day. They did NOTHING wrong but be born and have no choice but to starve and be hungry.

People are shot down every day, raped, murdered, beat to death, and 90% of those cases are for no fuckin reason.

This Tookie formed gnag violence, look at it today. He shot and killed a man in the 70's while he was FACE DOWN, shot him twice in the back. Ya, just like a blood or a Crip, to shoot someone when their face down or unarmed.

He killed another person and their daughter for under $100.

Tookie should burn in fuckin hell and I hope he does. When all of the Bloods and Crips get to him, they'll be burning as well.

RIP Tookie? You support a killer, a violent man? He wrote those books because he was forced to by the law. He would have neve done it on his own free will.


First of all the evidence is not as strong as you think and second of all he wasnt forced to write childrens books, he did that under his own free will, and he was nominated for several nobel peace prizes. taking a life for a life doesnt solve any more then life in prison does, if anything it solves less. Executing someone is not going to bring the people back from the dead or make peoples lives safer, if they are never going to see free light again.

[Smokey McPot]

I wanna know why it took us so long to put him to death!? he killed 4 people back in 79! i say if you are convicted of murders you should die right then and there.

I dont feel sorry for him at all. He didnt just kill useless gangsters like himself, he killed fathers and completely inocent people.

For all that say "oh but look at the inspirational books he wrote!" all i gotta say is that if he wasnt caught for his crimes and sent to jail, he would still be a gang member killing people and probably wouldnt give a fuck about other kids joining gangs.

[CocaCola]

Bottom line... what is being debated is wether or not he should have died then or if he should have been kept in prison for years and then have to die.

Anyone who takes sides is missing the point.

[Smokey McPot]

DIE MOTHER FUCKER DIE MOTHER DIE!
-that one song from Officespace

[rastagal]

fuck him, I pity the relatives of the people he brutally gunned down, he wrote books for kids? big fucking deal.
I know if anyone done what he did to my family, they'd be begging for the death penalty if I got my hands of them. I actually think the death penalty is too lenient anyway. if I could I'd put them all on a Gulag in Siberia, let them rot.

Sizzle, sizzle Sizzle... mutherfucker,