Seized packages.

[patten]

I just wonder how many people that have ordered from different MOM`s and have had their shipments stopped in customs.
And i also want people in europe that have order more than 3 times to tell if everything went ok.
Cus either things almost never get stopped, or the people who get orders stopped never writes about it.

[jahjahjahjah]

hope mine is fine.

[thebeancounter]

I had a batch of orders running real late and was getting worried,but they started arriving today thankfully.My personal experience has been that if you order once or twice a month,you can expect 1 or 2 packages per yr to get nabbed.So 90% or better success rate.This is Christmas season though so expect delays in arrivals.This batch is pushing 3weeks since being shipped,and just now starting to show up.

[Trichome Creator]

I love the mailman. He's a drug trafficker and does'nt even know it. :)

[patten]

what happens to the people that have it nabbed? just a letter. Have anyone ever had a house search or something like that because of MOM?

[Gazoo0]

I dont think they could legally bother you, unless they found it in your possesion. Even I could send something to your address, if I knew what your address was. It wouldnt be your fault if it ended up in your mail. Anyways thats the argument I'd use if I ended up in court.

[andruejaysin]

They COULD kick in your door, seize your computer, see who you've e-mailed, check your credit card/paypal/whatever transactions. But it seems, so far at least, that they don't. The bigger the shipment, the more chance they would, IMO. That said, SWIAJ has done this without problems. LOL, BCB.

[hank]

I know this one mail order guy who sends all his mail in like

Smith & Smith Inc
Random Addy from Canada

It's not actually Smith & Smith Inc, but if the LEO actually finds this pattern out, all the LEO needs to do is to sieze all packages labeled Smith & Smith Inc

I dropped him a line warning him about the dangers of doing that,

Peace

[SmokeItOut]

In fairness the DEA are more interested in catching the dealers, not the customers.

Get your shit 1/4 at a time. Every time you get a 1/4, get your MOM to send the next 1/4, etc.

[lemonboy]

In fairness the DEA are more interested in catching the dealers, not the customers.

Get your shit 1/4 at a time. Every time you get a 1/4, get your MOM to send the next 1/4, etc.Good in theory but this would increase the number of shipments per year provided you were a fairly decent consumer. Wouldn't this also increase risk?

Your dealer should have a method that works for him. I know MOM that handle large orders on their own. I won't detail their methods here but just ask. A good guy will set you at ease.

[Doobie Snax]

I'm worrying myself, got two packages in circulation somewhere and it's been about 4 days...

[Johnny Hempseed]

I dunno about the US or other countries..but here in Canada they send a letter if the intercept something..
Never use a real name in the sender column..but be damned sure the postal code is correct...
If you have a package a week seized..best start concerning yourself..otherwise I wouldn't worry..
And for the record..if you are in the US..this is what the could do if the so desire..
Make a controlled delivery..arrest you and seize your property..even for a small amount..
Enter your home..bug your phone..open all e-mail and electronic files..all without a warrant...
Bottom line..don't get too warped..the average person doesn't have to worry..but don't make a habit of it..
And be careful who you deal with...

[thebeancounter]

I dunno about the US or other countries..but here in Canada they send a letter if the intercept something..
Never use a real name in the sender column..but be damned sure the postal code is correct...
If you have a package a week seized..best start concerning yourself..otherwise I wouldn't worry..
And for the record..if you are in the US..this is what the could do if the so desire..
Make a controlled delivery..arrest you and seize your property..even for a small amount..
Enter your home..bug your phone..open all e-mail and electronic files..all without a warrant...
Bottom line..don't get too warped..the average person doesn't have to worry..but don't make a habit of it..
And be careful who you deal with...
Not quite.The so-called Patriot Act was repealed recently.So they DO need warrants etc to do those things once again.

[lemonboy]

Not quite.The so-called Patriot Act was repealed recently.So they DO need warrants etc to do those things once again.Not quite. :) It was temporarily renewed and will be up again for the full renewal.

[SmokeItOut]

Good in theory but this would increase the number of shipments per year provided you were a fairly decent consumer. Wouldn't this also increase risk?

Your dealer should have a method that works for him. I know MOM that handle large orders on their own. I won't detail their methods here but just ask. A good guy will set you at ease.

I think it would work. Every time you get your 1/4, let your MOM know, then he sends on another 1/4. No matter what happens the most they will get you for is a 1/4. If they intercept a 1/4 they aren't going to do shit to you. Using a wrong name but right address will help too.

Even though it does mean more packages being sent, it also means less weed for the dogs to smell when checking huge piles of letters/envelopes.

[patten]

I made a deal with my friend. I do all the practical, like ordering, paying and so on, and we use his adress and name. and he does not have anything they can use to prove that he ordered it.

[bonsaiguy]

Not quite. :) It was temporarily renewed and will be up again for the full renewal.
I don't think the Patriot Act has anything to do with it. It does allow for more secret shit directed at american citizens without court orders but the DEA, FBI, etc have had extremely broad search and seizure powers, some signed by reagan, some signed by clinton, and everyone in between, for a long time now. The RICO act is the one that allows them to take all of your assetts, computer data, etc etc. However it is usually reserved for folks who are actually making a profit on drugs. There have been several attempts in congress to extend these laws to users and I think the supreme court recently ruled on some of the search and seizure methods, mostly in favor of the cops such as using infra red heat detection to find growrooms. (i think it still requires reasonable suspiscion and a warrant) The supremes also ruled recently on the issue of searching cars. It's pretty much at the cops discretion and he/she does not have to be looking for anything specific anymore. It used to be that unless they were looking for something specific, they couldn't use it in court if they found something illegal. You still have the right to refuse but then they just impound the car, get a warrant and search it anyway.

[xNoa]

id really like to know if anyones had an oz caught in the mail in england, and what happened

[Torog]

Howdy Y'all,
This is what I said in another thread to pisshead80:
"Howdy pisshead,

This article confirms what I already suspected,that packages and mail,crossing American borders,is looked at and sometimes opened. I had a gift of compassion,from the Nederlands siezed and got a Customs letter,then everything from Canada,got intercepted and I was finally paid a visit,by the feds and the local narco task force,the fed said that I was gittin too many gifts of compassion from Canada,and that it must cease and desist,leaving me with the warning that my po box was being watched..hmm..maybe I should have the person from Canada,send me a harmless letter,and see how that works out..it would be playing with fire tho.

Someone said,in a thread about why one shouldn't order by phone/mail,that one should only use mom dealers from overseas,but it seems to me,that they wouldn't stand much of a chance,compared to mom dealers whose products don't cross international borders.

Have a good one ...."

This is what happened to me after accepting just one mom shipment,and before I could even send out the payment,now the feller thinks that I never got visited and that I was just trying to scam him-but I wasn't..I couldn't send the payment to him,because I was being watched,may still be watched and if he was compromised on his end,even sending payment from another town,would give the pigs all they needed to nab both of us. I reckon it's one thing to git mom orders in the city,but it's a whole nother story in a one horse town where the postal workers know everyone's mailing habits. A big city post office,is used to gittin international mail,but little one horse towns like mine,are not and the postal workers git mighty dang snoopy !

I don't know what the solution is,if anyone has any ideas,please feel free to share. Moving to a big city-is an unacceptable solution for me.

Have a good one ....

[patten]

howdy.
I live in the biggest city in norway, so that wont be a problem.
However, the adress im sending it to, is a friend that is clean, and we made a deal to use his postbox. So if the police comes to him, they cant find anything anyway.
But its the first time i have heard about so much trouble! Did you order alot before this happened?

[Torog]

howdy.
I live in the biggest city in norway, so that wont be a problem.
However, the adress im sending it to, is a friend that is clean, and we made a deal to use his postbox. So if the police comes to him, they cant find anything anyway.
But its the first time i have heard about so much trouble! Did you order alot before this happened?
Howdy patten,

Nope..up till the time I requested my first mom order,I was gittin gifts of compassion,just little dabs for free,except the ones from Canada,never made it to me,they were all siezed somewhere along the way. The only things that got to me-were mailed from within the US..except for 2 packages of seeds outside the US.

Have a good one ...

[patten]

wow. Do people in the town know that you are a pot smoker? mayby they have been watching you all along?

[thebeancounter]

Howdy patten,

Nope..up till the time I requested my first mom order,I was gittin gifts of compassion,just little dabs for free,except the ones from Canada,never made it to me,they were all siezed somewhere along the way. The only things that got to me-were mailed from within the US..except for 2 packages of seeds outside the US.

Have a good one ...
I'd say they have you pegged brother.I've been doing mom for 2 years and only had 2 orders siezed.And I live in a 2 horse town.Not quite bumfuck egypt but very close.And stateside mom orders can get you not only a visit from the feds but 5-10 years in the fed pen.International orders will just get you that customs letter since the person they REALLY want is the supplier and if the supplier is NOT a us citzen,they can't do diddly squat to him.If the supplier is stateside though,the cops WILL roast you over a slow fire to get you to roll over on him.

[xNoa]

I'd say they have you pegged brother.I've been doing mom for 2 years and only had 2 orders siezed.And I live in a 2 horse town.Not quite bumfuck egypt but very close.And stateside mom orders can get you not only a visit from the feds but 5-10 years in the fed pen.International orders will just get you that customs letter since the person they REALLY want is the supplier and if the supplier is NOT a us citzen,they can't do diddly squat to him.If the supplier is stateside though,the cops WILL roast you over a slow fire to get you to roll over on him.
so you lot think its only worth worrying about in the US?

[thebeancounter]

Just more risk if a package gets caught is all.If you have an ounce or 2 caught by customs international all you get is the letter.I would only worry about getting a visit from the cops in person if the order was from a stateside address.

[xNoa]

Just more risk if a package gets caught is all.If you have an ounce or 2 caught by customs international all you get is the letter.I would only worry about getting a visit from the cops in person if the order was from a stateside address.
ok mate, i only occasionaly order from amsterdam to england, had no trouble so far, but god do i get paranoid.. worth it in the end tho !

[Torog]

I'd say they have you pegged brother.I've been doing mom for 2 years and only had 2 orders siezed.And I live in a 2 horse town.Not quite bumfuck egypt but very close.And stateside mom orders can get you not only a visit from the feds but 5-10 years in the fed pen.International orders will just get you that customs letter since the person they REALLY want is the supplier and if the supplier is NOT a us citzen,they can't do diddly squat to him.If the supplier is stateside though,the cops WILL roast you over a slow fire to get you to roll over on him.
Howdy bean,

I'd say that yer right..plus,it don't help matters much,that I look like a pot smoker from the 60's or 70's..lol. I ain't changing my looks though and I reckon that the best thing for me to do,is to move.

The feller in the US that I didn't pay,still thinks that I concocted the whole story,just to git out of paying him,but the fact is,is that I ain't sure whether he's compromised,so sending payment to him,could wind up being a disaster.

Have a good one ....

[Starchild]

My cousin is a postal inspector

[xNoa]

My cousin is a postal inspector
any info then?

[robert42]

if they stop a Oz UK (i know ppl who this has happened to) they just confiscate it, theres no proof it was intended for you.

[xNoa]

if they stop a Oz UK (i know ppl who this has happened to) they just confiscate it, theres no proof it was intended for you.
:thumbsup: no letter??

[Starchild]

I can give some helpful advice in private..I have a hushmail addy..

[xNoa]

er ok then mate apolloanderson at hushmail.com

[patten]

starchild, i want some advice to :) hatten at hushmail.com

[john maconha bullet]

HI THERE,WHAT ABOUT GETTING A FAKE ID WITH AN UNREAL NAME ,RENT A POBOX AND SO ON...AND HOW CAN I GET A FAKE ID?SEE YOU JOHN

[Nikita123]

plz advize me too. nikita123 at hush mail dot com.

[robert42]

Nope no letter, they just take the product adn "destroy" no letter, no call

letters are only in america

[Doobie Snax]

Robert, did i ever get back to you about the disco's?

[Starchild]

Check your mail..

[dogg]

Check your mail..
m2. doggsdomain at hushmail dot com

[Doobie Snax]

Who are you 2 talking about? 'check your mail'.

[Doobie Snax]

ahh ok never mind, i thought you meant me. that's what i get for not reading a full thread.

[john maconha bullet]

where can i get a fake id?thank you john

[SmokinSooner]

Check your mail..
could you hook me up with the info? hangthedj1978 at hushmail dot com

[dogg]

I can give some helpful advice in private..I have a hushmail addy..
I would like some helpful advice. Pretty Please. Thanks in Advance.

[bonsaiguy]

I can give some helpful advice in private..I have a hushmail addy..

Send me some advice as well Starchild. If nothing else you've piquied my curiosity. Address is in my sig.
Thanks

[heyheymymy]

I can give some helpful advice in private..I have a hushmail addy..


hit me up @

[email protected]

[Arthur Dent]

In your sig you say;
" [email protected] (is currently down because of too many spams and LEO's) "

Are you saying hushmail is down?
Arthur

[thebeancounter]

In your sig you say;
" [email protected] (is currently down because of too many spams and LEO's) "

Are you saying hushmail is down?
Arthur
Hush is just fine,dude.I have no problems with mine:D

[ultimatenyc]

starchild: i have an op in the netherlands. please e-mail me your info [email protected]

thanks

[JonnyIndica]

can somebody post Starchilds SECRET advice ?

[BaseRSX]

So what happens if you are ordering from the USA to the USA and it is less than an Oz? You get a letter? Or cops show up?

[lostinTO]

Starchild,
Can you send me your advice at winnie99 at hushmail.com

I'm in Canada so I have never had any problems, however I may be spending some time in the UK soon so need to figure out my options.

thanks,

[xNoa]

ive been waiting 6 days for an oz that should take 3-4
FUCK SAKE I AM SO FUCKING PISSED OFF

[bluhoo]

Star Child. Thanks so much for bringing this here. Please send me the information! [email protected]

[conqueror worm]

hey Star child - you got my interest up - am thinking about getting some MOM sent - please email me any info you have to [email protected]

thanks!

[patten]

xNoa, did it arrive?

[Doobie Snax]

Yeh xNoa, from who?

[xNoa]

id rather not say i got it anyway(was no doubts anyway just a pain waiting) some great dutch as usual

[patten]

Did it take long? I have been waiting for a week now. To norway that is. And we use the same person..

[xNoa]

Did it take long? I have been waiting for a week now. To norway that is. And we use the same person..
no never that long there was just a mix up for me, normally 3-4 days to england.

[patten]

oh. I hope mine hasnt been stopped by customs. So it did not take 6 days?

[xNoa]

oh. I hope mine hasnt been stopped by customs. So it did not take 6 days?
nah, 4 days when actually posted
maybe its longer to norway, dont think so though
u sure its the same person anyway

[robert42]

who u guys talkin about? some one spill the beans

[patten]

yeah, im pretty sure. He told me to ask you if he was legit so ;)

[patten]

Im gonna start to cry soon. The shipment is still not here, so i guess the police got it :(

[xNoa]

check your mail m8

[patten]

Just found that out that it was some problems with my shipment, and it will be re-sent tomorrow. yaai..

[Myth1184]

Just found that out that it was some problems with my shipment, and it will be re-sent tomorrow. yaai..

Translation, the ATF will be delivering your package tomorrow

[patten]

ATF? the shipment was sent to someone else, thats why i never recived it.

[robert42]

xnoa drop me a email about who u guys are talkin abotu plz - curiosity [email protected]

[Starchild]

You know what causes most mail problems?To quote:Those FUCKING Netflix movies.They open up all the time and the mail sorters just place any movie back into any package~laughs~

[BigHomie]

starchild - pls hook me up with the advice

bighomie at hushmail.com

[xNoa]

what was this advice exactly?? i never got anything.