Does cannabis open the door to class A,s

[scobbie]

In Scotland at the moment they are trying to put the rise in the abuse of class A drugs ie,HEROIN,COCAIN,CRACK down to cannabis,the fucks they know nothing .I am an ex smack head who was fucked up on that shit for a very long time admittidly the first drug i tried was cannabis at the age of 10 but in no way was weed responsable for me being kidnaped by heroin. I was me ,me , me, no one else we are all resxponsable for our own actions if weed was responsable then all the friends that took that first joint with me would have all ended up fucked with smack but out of the seven of us that were present only me ended up fucked thank god and now clean i still have a smoke with all those lads , has anyone else came across thi ignorance or anyone got an opinion thanks. :mad: :confused: :( :rolleyes: :cursing: :what:

[fat possum]

Ever tried opium?

[RedRainDrop]

Addiction sucks^^ especially when you get addicted to DXM (me) Withdrawal is horrible, and you either want to kill yourself, or change your mood by taking another trip, until after your feeling even worse than before. I cold turkeyed that shit months ago, and i've done it since but in low, recreational doses. Don't get addicted to ANYTHING. It leaves you with the worse feelings ever.

[scobbie]

yeh done opium a few timesnice itoxiacatin stone but another bad mother fuckin class a. dmx is also another drug that can cause severe mental illness and crippling withdrawals well done keep all drugs recreational as withdrawal suck and some arent strong enough to survive it ,well done again my friend keep it up it gets easier with time

[Clevelandsmokin]

no man i took my first hit of weed when i was 12 and i am 17 now and weed is what i stick with, i enjoy the high off weed more than anything else i have done. the farthest i have went is coke (with narcotics) and have done a few haulucinogens

[justinsane]

i started smokin weed, but have since done sylvia, and tried crack once... booooo

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

Try coming to America and listen to how, when Republicans are challenged, they get defensive and attack instead of giving a simple explanation or admitting that they might be wrong. Republicans in this country are sort of like the people who think they're always right and will beat the shit out of anyone who tries to say otherwise.

Of course, that's the majority of Republicans up on Capitol Hill. The normal people are all pretty cool, no matter the political label.

[Goodman3eb]

Here's what I don't get-- is the opposition really arguing that there is something inherent in the nature of marijuana that, chemically speaking, makes you want to try other drugs? I cannot possibly see how any drug in its very chemical nature could have that property.

That's like saying that there is something chemically inherent in chicken meat that makes you want to eat human meat--it just ain't so!

I will concede that more people try marijuana as a gateway to the world of illegal drugs than try cocaine, but there's nothing inherent in the nature of marijuana that it must be so. That's simply a result of marijuana being popular and easy to acquire, both of which are merely societal conditions, and of marijuana being a relatively harmless, approachable drug: a good reason to legalize it, not to ban it!

[war on drugs sucks]

every gov't agency and anti-drug organization thinks that weed is a gateway drug because thats what we all try first. Ever heard of anyone who never smoked weed going straight for the black tar heroin? Probably not

[daima]

i am here to tell you all that it isnt pot that leads to harder drugs. It is the lack of pot that leads to other drugs.
Personally speaking ? I started out on milk. from there as i got older it was kool aid. The next fucking thing i knew i was doing orange juice and eating fucking apples.
i have no complete memery of just exactly how it got so out of control. my mind is still nothing but the eventual blur of what would become my resse cup addiciton. Fuckin milk~~~~~
dai*ma

[madjicorange]

using canabis will always lead to some of us using harder drugs, whilst it is in the same bracket of ilegal drugs as h & c and more importantly whilst you have to go to drug dealers to buy it well done to daima it is lack of pot that makes you buy something else though i'm not too sure about the apple thing i started with apples

[beachguy in thongs]

How can you say "using canabis" will always lead to ...?
Dummy.
Most users of heroin, LSD and cocaine have used marijuana. However, most marijuana users never use another illegal drug.

Over time, there has been no consistent relationship between the use patterns of various drugs. 83

As marijuana use increased in the 1960s and 1970s, heroin use declined. And, when marijuana use declined in the 1980s, heroin use remained fairly stable.

For the past 20 years, as marijuana use-rates fluctuated, the use of LSD hardly changed at all.

Cocaine use increased in the early 1980s as marijuana use was declining. During the late 1980s, both marijuana and cocaine declined. During the last few years, cocaine use has continued to decline as marijuana use has increased slightly.

In 1994, less than 16% of high school seniors who had ever tried marijuana had ever tried cocaine - the lowest percentage ever recorded. In fact, as shown below, the proportion of marijuana users trying cocaine has declined steadily since 1986, when a high of more than 33% was recorded.

But, this is just an excerpt.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth13.shtml

[beachguy in thongs]

How can you say "using canabis" will always lead to ...?
Dummy.

Most users of heroin, LSD and cocaine have used marijuana. However, most marijuana users never use another illegal drug.

Over time, there has been no consistent relationship between the use patterns of various drugs.

As marijuana use increased in the 1960s and 1970s, heroin use declined. And, when marijuana use declined in the 1980s, heroin use remained fairly stable.

For the past 20 years, as marijuana use-rates fluctuated, the use of LSD hardly changed at all.

Cocaine use increased in the early 1980s as marijuana use was declining. During the late 1980s, both marijuana and cocaine declined. During the last few years, cocaine use has continued to decline as marijuana use has increased slightly.

In 1994, less than 16% of high school seniors who had ever tried marijuana had ever tried cocaine - the lowest percentage ever recorded. In fact, as shown below, the proportion of marijuana users trying cocaine has declined steadily since 1986, when a high of more than 33% was recorded.

Read the rest...

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth13.shtml

Sorry for the double-post, it was a mistake.

[daima]

using cannabis will alwaz lead some to harder drugs? that dont make sense(to me).
That suggests that if any one of us ever decide to try pot and then try somethinbg else than it was pot that caused that decison. I am here to tell you that the world is full of drug users that never touched pot. What do you suppose their "gateway" drug was? Dont say "curiosity" because thats not a drug.
You see, most of us humans have always been curious and many of us has never settled for the status quo. Many of us humans thrive at the possibility of being able to alter our minds, conscience, and opinions. Fake boobs alters one mind also.
Try bungeee jumping, or kayaking down a white water river. This bullshit that cannabis is wrong and dangerous doesnt serve anyone but religious freaks and prohibitionist, and alcohol industry, etc etc.
Tension
Tension
I got tension and it's all that i know
i got tension in my choice makin
i got tension in my love makin
i got tension and it's every where i go

dai*ma

[Reefer Rogue]

No, this gateway theory has been disproven.

[daima]

cannabis connoisseur's are a smokin breed, for sure.
dai*ma

[Archeen]

think your right scobbie about it being a personal choice thing, the government blame cannabis for the rise in class A users yet fail to grasp the concept that its illegality brings alot of users into contact with dealers that don`t just sell cannabis. The younger users being particularly vulnerable to peer pressure an the likes or itching to try other drugs are going to take them and if you play with fire your goin to get burnt...at least singed a bit . I was 15 the first time i seen a guy shootin up in a house i was in buying some hash, a year later i was shootin up toot an takin more of my nanas jellies than she was , buying peoples scripts an shit . FUCKSAKE ALL I WANTED WAS A HALF QUART!!!!!!!!...................I now only partake in fine herb. LEGALISE CANNABIS AND STOP BRINGING OUR YOUTH INTO CONTACT WITH CLASS A AND THE RISE IN CLASS A USAGE WILL START GOING DOWN........doh!!!!

[Guest]

I asked my friend what his thoughts were about pot being a gateway drug.

His reply:

"pot is not a gateway drug. you do other drugs by other peoples influence, or maybe simply your choosing. you can not blame pot for peoples decisions."

[Scotch on the rocks]

I'm from Motherwell mate, I know exactly what you mean about the complete lies that get told about weed in this not so great nation of ours.

I've been smoking weed for 10 years now and I'm not addicted to anything and niether has it made me go mental as others claim too.

I have tried other harder drugs e and coke but I never feel that irresistible urge to keep on going ,I can take them or leave them.

I think addiction is entierly linked to your own personality, not weed.

Well done for coming off the crap scobbie, must have been incredibly hard, I've seen so many of my friends fall down that hole and never get back out.

[Oli]

The only way weed can get you into Class A's is through being forced to assocciate with drug dealers who may have more on offer then a bit of bud.

[FireRazor]

A good friend of mine was taking E trips for the past few months, now his family is intervining and he tried to kill himself out of withdrawl. It makes me shake my head; if they spent less time worrying who smoked weed and more time about whos taking what pills then maybe I wouldn't be out two friends.