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pisshead
12-01-2005, 10:19 PM
Kids Being Conditioned To Big Brother and Police State
Steve Watson / Infowars | December 1 2005 (http://infowars.net/index.html)
When Kids are not at home (playing computer games (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/301105videogame.htm) depicting apocalyptic visions of America after the year 2008 where terror attacks carried out by anti-government militias force the European Union to send in an occupying armies which they must control to take out American citizens who resist) they are in school learning how to accept the Big Brother police state.
Central Georgia's 13WMAZ News Agency reported (http://wmaz.com/news/top_stories.aspx?storyid=20466) today that A Jasper County 8th grader found a video camera taping in the school bathroom.
Cindy Champion says her son and his friends took the camera out of the ceiling and brought it home to show her.
"It felt like the right thing to do...because it felt like we were being violated in every way in the bathroom." said 13 year old Mac Bedor.
http://infowars.net/pictures/news_files/Dec05/011205School.jpg
When Ms Champion contacted the Jasper County Comprehensive School, she found out that the high school principal, Howard Fore, had placed the camera in the bathroom to catch vandals.
Amazingly, Mac Bedor is now SUSPENDED from the school for for taking school property.
"I had told the high school principal, Mr. Fore, that he needed to come up with another solution. That this wasn't appropriate. His response to me was he was going to continue to film." Said Ms Champion.
This is not an isolated incident. We have previously reported on how Reyoldsburg High School in Ohio (http://seclists.org/lists/politech/2001/Feb/0008.html) has placed cameras in student bathrooms. Incidents have also occurred in Waco, Texas (http://wcbs880.com/water/watercooler_story_322114110.html) and Pine Bush, New York State. (http://www.recordonline.com/archive/2003/04/17/17edit.htm)
It seems that the message is Big Brother is watching and if you resist him you will be punished. These incidents reflect the slow creeping surveillance society's debilitating hacking at away at the fourth amendment. It is simply now accepted that we must all be watched even in the bathroom in case someone does something wrong at some point.
Our Schools and institutes of higher education are now total breeding grounds for the Big brother police state. Kids are conditioned from day one to accept surveillance and draconian security policies as the norm.
We have carried countless reports of Schools implementing mandatory student tracking (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/080205idcards.htm) devices containing RFID chips.
??Tagging? U.S. Schoolchildren (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2004/141204taggingchildren.htm) is becoming common practice:
"Lauren Tatro, 13, told her parents the plain facts. Every student at Brittan Elementary School (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/220205bravenewworld.htm) had to wear a badge the size of an index card with their name, grade, photo ?? and a tiny radio identification tag. The purpose was to test a new high-tech attendance system... she went home saying she felt like an orange."
Schools are now more like prisons, with the "inmates" wearing tracking devices (http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000017031341/), having to clock in and out with ID cards (http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=436842004), having to go through metal detectors (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/4167237.stm). Police patrol the halls armed with high powered Tasers (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2005/070105tasersinschools.htm), ready and willing to use them (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/271104taseronchildren.htm) on young children even though they are proven to cause death in fit healthy grown adults.
Not only is this the case in schools but also in Universities and colleges. Of course by this point the authorities need to know which buildings you are going into and exactly what books you are checking out at the library.
http://infowars.net/pictures/news_files/Dec05/011205card.jpg
Above is my own Student "SMART ID card" from when I was last at University. Admittedly this is now two years old and technology has undoubtedly moved on. Without the card I could not get through doors, I had to swipe my card to photocopy anything, I had to have my bar-code scanned in order to take out a book from the library, I have to have it scanned to pay my fees. My number was 4013186 and was in in category 65 (presumably this was the category for dangerous right wing radicals/left wing commies).
My card was also chipped, for which purpose I have no earthly idea, I guess it's in case someone wishes to forge a card and pretend to be a student because they cannot actually afford to pay the government £3000 a year for the privilege.
In short, the youth are being indoctrinated to accept as a norm the fact that they must scan or swipe to have access to buildings or books. It's also OK for authorities to store records of what you are reading or photocopying, and you must accept the chip. The majority do not even know they are represented by a Student's Union, they simply believe this to be the place where you go to get blind drunk at three in the afternoon.
Many Universities are brimming with "politically motivated" students who are so against loss of civil rights and erosion of freedom, yet when you mention that they already have a national ID card in their back pocket they pass it off as irrelevant.
There is also a dangerous precedent being set whereby kids are made to feel important if they carry a card or a chip. They can gain access to places other people cannot go, open doors electronically and have the use of superior resources. In actual fact the technology given to them can track their every move and is primarily a form of control.
By the time students leave education and move into the wider world, surveillance technology is everywhere (http://prisonplanet.com/Pages/Oct05/041005cashless.htm) and they are completely unfazed and totally conditioned to it.
UPDATE: 1/12/05 (16:10) - NEW DEVELOPMENTS
We interviewed Cindy Champion, the mother of Mac Bedor who outlined that she is proud of what her son did because it was what he felt was right. When he found the camera in his school bathroom he was appalled and insulted so he took action and removed it.
http://infowars.net/pictures/news_files/Dec05/011205Mac.jpg
Cindy is the mom of 5 and says her son probably did what he did because of her line of work, which is archiving news shows. She calls herself a ??diehard for the underdog.?
She is interested in talking to the media about this, but is concerned that once the news coverage goes away that they might reinstate the camera (We told her that we would never go away and that if that did happen she should get in touch with us)
Her son Mac was charged with ??theft by taking? of school property. The camera he found was a handheld camera, not a professional camera, but one of the cheap, insidious type you can acquire from the Internet.
We learned from Cindy that there was another student who took a photo of the camera prior to Mac??s awareness being alerted. This child and his parents took the picture to the Sheriff yet no action was taken. Furthermore only the high school principal knew about this and not the middle school principal or administration.
Cindy is dedicated to getting this story out to the American people because, she says, they arn't??t even sure if it is illegal and ??if it??s legal the American public needs to know so they can change it.?
Bibb County District Attorney, Howard Simms says cameras in public school bathrooms are legal because schools have more leeway on privacy issues.
pisshead
12-01-2005, 10:22 PM
Pupil Discovers Camera In School Bathroom
13 WMAZ | December 1 2005 (http://wmaz.com/news/top_stories.aspx?storyid=20466)
A Jasper County mother says her 8th grade son found a video camera taping in the school bathroom this week. But now, he is the one in trouble.
Cindy Champion says her son, Mac Bedor, and a few of his friends took the camera out of the ceiling because they felt it violated their privacy. Champion says her son brought the camera home to show her that afternoon. She says when she contacted the Jasper County Comprehensive School, she found out high school principal, Howard Fore, put the camera there. She says Fore told her he put the camera in the boys' bathroom to catch students vandalizing. Champion says her son is now suspended for taking school property.
CINDY CHAMPION, MOTHER:
"I had told the high school principal, Mr. Fore, that he needed to come up with another solution. That this wasn't appropriate. His response to me was he was going to continue to film."
Jasper County Superintendent, Jay Brinson, sent a faxed response to Eyewitness News. Brinson says high school principal, Howard Fore, placed the camera in the bathroom last Sunday to control vandalism. He says Fore put the camera there "to discover the identity of those doing the damage." Brinson says the principal did tell Cindy Champion that the camera would be installed again. But in his statement Brinson says, "The camera was not placed back in the restroom, and will not be placed back in the restroom."
Eyewitness News tried to contact the Ocmulgee Circuit District Attorney about the legality of placing hidden cameras in public school rest rooms. He covers that area. Eyewitness News was not able to get in touch with him. But, Eyewitness News did talk with Bibb County District Attorney, Howard Simms. He says cameras in public school bathrooms are legal because schools have more leeway on privacy issues.
Psycho4Bud
12-01-2005, 10:22 PM
When Kids are not at home (playing computer games depicting apocalyptic visions of America after the year 2008 where terror attacks carried out by anti-government militias force the European Union to send in an occupying armies which they must control to take out American citizens who resist) they are in school learning how to accept the Big Brother police state.
Pack enough shit in the brackets there? Damn, you do make me laugh at times....or I should say Alex does! :dance:
pisshead
12-01-2005, 10:30 PM
since he's on ignore...i can only surmise that our oddly anti-constitution 'libertarian' friend loves the idea of cameras in school bathrooms and thinks that the kids should be arrested for finding it...and thinks no one will be free until we are all on camera, perhaps cameras in our houses...to keep us safe from the freedom hating terrorists...
perhaps someone with some sense can fill me in...
Euphoric
12-01-2005, 10:39 PM
o it's a fvcked up world..
this is exactly why i will be partying on doomsday
Fengzi
12-01-2005, 10:45 PM
Cameras in the school bathrooms huh? I would have to know what the cameras were looking at in order to have an opinion on this one. If they are looking into stalls, urinals, or basically looking anywhere I wouldn't look if I was in a public restroom, I'd have to say "no way". Who knows, the principle could be some pervert with a scat fetish jacking off while watching tapes of kids taking a crap. Security or not some things should be private. But if they're pointed at the sinks or other common areas I don't have a problem with it. The way I see it, why worry unless your doing something you shouldn't?
As far as ID cards with chips are concerned, big fucking deal. If it means my daughter will be safer when she's at school I'm all for it. If you belong there you have a card and can get it. If you don't belong there you don't have a card and can't get it. Sounds good to me.
Not everything is a government plot to control us.
I'm probably on your ignore list too Pisshead, but just in case. Psycho was just saying you make him laugh. I have to agree :p
Psycho4Bud
12-01-2005, 11:11 PM
since he's on ignore...i can only surmise ...
No Pissy, you assumed. Only this time, you made an ass out of yourself twice within 3 posts. Must be a NEW RECORD!!! :thumbsup: That a Boy!! :thumbsup:
Breukelen advocaat
12-01-2005, 11:24 PM
This is stealing. Those kids had no right to remove the school's security equipment.
They should be sent to a reform school to learn some dicipline, or whatever the normal punishment is for crimes commited by children.
eg420ne
12-01-2005, 11:32 PM
Its useless....2 many closed-minded people--thinking the govt is all god-like and can do no wrong.. its been said by many for 100s of years-- Governments are the real enemy of the people:---..
Government is like fire, a handy servant, but a dangerous master--George Washington
The government is merely a servant--merely a temporary servant, it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong and decide who is a patriot and who isnt. It function is to obey orders, not originate them...My above post is not directed toward anyone,,just sayin
I laugh at people who accept what the govt tells them without questioning what really happened..FLAME-ON :thumbsup: =...peace... but this is-- LOL---
XI NAO VCA OULA
hey does this police chief look like hitler
Psycho4Bud
12-01-2005, 11:32 PM
This is stealing. Those kids had no right to remove the school's security equipment.
They should be sent to a reform school to learn some dicipline, or whatever the normal punishment is for crimes commited by children.
Wouldn't that be enfringing on their rights to be lil' bastards? :smokin:
Psycho4Bud
12-01-2005, 11:34 PM
Its useless....2 many closed-minded people--thinking the govt is all god-like and can do no wrong.. its been said by many for 100s of years-- Governments are the real enemy of the people:---..
Government is like fire, a handy servant, but a dangerous master--George Washington
The government is merely a servant--merely a temporary servant, it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong and decide who is a patriot and who isnt. It function is to obey orders, not originate them...My above post is not directed toward anyone,,just sayin
I laugh at people who accept what the govt tells them without questioning what really happened..FLAME-ON :thumbsup: =...peace... but this is-- LOL---
XI NAO VCA OULA
You related to Jesse Jackson cause dude you sure can preach!!! :smokin:
Forgot the part about the Industrial Military Complex but thats alright....let ya slide this time! :thumbsup:
eg420ne
12-01-2005, 11:35 PM
Wouldn't that be enfringing on their rights to be lil' bastards? :smokin:
Dem bastard we'd should cut off there hands--by-god.... :stoned:
eg420ne
12-01-2005, 11:35 PM
You related to Jesse Jackson cause dude you sure can preach!!! :smokin:
Forgot the part about the Industrial Military Complex but thats alright....let ya slide this time! :thumbsup:
lol
:stoned:
Psycho4Bud
12-01-2005, 11:37 PM
Dem bastard we'd should cut off there hands--by-god.... :stoned:
You must either be Christian or Moslum. :eek:
eg420ne
12-01-2005, 11:39 PM
Whats wrong with informing the folks of whats going on I think everyone should pay-attention to its govt---if more people had payed a lil more to what the govt has been doing for the past 60-70yrs i believe it would be a better place for all.. maybe even have flying cars and daily trips to the moon..lol----FLAME-ON
Psycho4Bud
12-01-2005, 11:41 PM
Whats wrong with informing the folks of whats going on I think everyone should pay-attention to its govt---if more people had payed a lil more to what the govt has been doing for the past 60-70yrs i believe it would be a better place for all.. maybe even have flying cars and daily trips to the moon..lol----FLAME-ON
Nothing wrong with keeping up on shit as long as your selective with your news sources...refer to Freedom! LOL :dance:
eg420ne
12-01-2005, 11:41 PM
You must either be Christian or Moslum. :eek:
Neither--I love having free roam of my mind..... :D
Psycho4Bud
12-01-2005, 11:42 PM
Neither--I love having free roam of my mind..... :D
But what about the wafers and the wine.....hell, it's like goin' out to eat! :rasta:
eg420ne
12-01-2005, 11:52 PM
But what about the wafers and the wine.....hell, it's like goin' out to eat! :rasta:
true- true....I love the wine--jesus must've of been drunk 24/7---family guy
Psycho4Bud
12-01-2005, 11:58 PM
true- true....I love the wine--jesus must've of been drunk 24/7---family guy
I was watching a history special on the religions one time. They said that basically the Religions of that time were pretty much wine manufacturers, the ones with the best booze had the largest congregations. The same show depicted the Apostles as more less body gaurds. The one was an expert with swords, another with knives.....it was pretty interesting! :thumbsup:
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 12:03 AM
Ya i heard something like that b4---What if they started droping acid on the waffers--man, would that be trippy... wait they might have done that already..lol
Psycho4Bud
12-02-2005, 12:05 AM
Ya i heard something like that b4---What if they started droping acid on the waffers--man, would that be trippy... wait they might have done that already..lol
They do that....I'm getting myself some ol' time religion!!!! :thumbsup:
Breukelen advocaat
12-02-2005, 12:21 AM
http://www.matrixmasters.com/bookclub/mckenna/mckennabooks.html
The ancient, mystical, psychedelic drugs were likely very instrumental in human development. As the supplies of our early ancestors dwindled, due to ice ages and such, armies and borders had to be formed to protect the remaining ??sacraments?.
Alcohol replaced the mushrooms, and other natural chemical mind-enhancers. Things have been going downhill for humankind ever since, in many ways.
Terrence McKenna has written some very interesting books about this subject, which are detailed above ?? I have several of them, including True Hallucinations and Food of the Gods. I've read parts of his book, The Archaic Revival, also.
This man gave his life for inner-mind exploration - he probably overdid it with "heroic" doses of DMT, but was very serious about it.
I read The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, by R. Gordon Wasson, many years ago. This was an interesting one, also. Wasson was a VP on Wall Street when he took up magic mushrooms as an interest!
http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=10478
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 12:24 AM
hell ya--just hope i dont start seeing demons like that time i took a couple of hits and satan started following me in his beat-up oldsmobile..
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 12:29 AM
http://www.matrixmasters.com/bookclub/mckenna/mckennabooks.html
The ancient, mystical, psychedelic drugs were likely very instrumental in human development. As the supplies of our early ancestors dwindled, due to ice ages and such, armies and borders had to be formed to protect the remaining ??sacraments?.
Alcohol replaced the mushrooms, and other natural chemical mind-enhancers. Things have been going downhill for humankind ever since, in many ways.
Terrence McKenna has written some very interesting books about this subject, which are detailed above ?? I have several of them, including True Hallucinations and Food of the Gods. I've read parts of his book, The Archaic Revival, also.
This man gave his life for inner-mind exploration - he probably overdid it with "heroic" doses of DMT, but was very serious about it.
I read The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, by R. Gordon Wasson, many years ago. This was an interesting one, also. Wasson was a VP on Wall Street when he took up magic mushrooms as an interest!
http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=10478I read somewhere that catholics popes and bishops resemble shrooms..lol i better leave this one alone for now
Breukelen advocaat
12-02-2005, 12:43 AM
I read somewhere that catholics popes and bishops resemble shrooms..lol i better leave this one alone for now
The contemporary religions stole everything they have from the original drug pagan cultures, and other mythology that came from, and after, them. It all originated with drug usage in ancient times. Even "Santa Claus" looks like a mushroom! (see image below).
The psychedelic secrets of Santa Claus
by Dana Larsen (18 Dec, 2003)
Modern Christmas traditions are based on ancient mushroom-using shamans.
Although most people see Christmas as a Christian holiday, most of the symbols and icons we associate with Christmas celebrations are actually derived from the shamanistic traditions of the tribal peoples of pre-Christian Northern Europe?..http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3136.html
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 04:18 AM
Pupil Discovers Camera In School Bathroom
13 WMAZ | December 1 2005 (http://wmaz.com/news/top_stories.aspx?storyid=20466)
A Jasper County mother says her 8th grade son found a video camera taping in the school bathroom this week. But now, he is the one in trouble.
Cindy Champion says her son, Mac Bedor, and a few of his friends took the camera out of the ceiling because they felt it violated their privacy. Champion says her son brought the camera home to show her that afternoon. She says when she contacted the Jasper County Comprehensive School, she found out high school principal, Howard Fore, put the camera there. She says Fore told her he put the camera in the boys' bathroom to catch students vandalizing. Champion says her son is now suspended for taking school property.
CINDY CHAMPION, MOTHER:
"I had told the high school principal, Mr. Fore, that he needed to come up with another solution. That this wasn't appropriate. His response to me was he was going to continue to film."
Jasper County Superintendent, Jay Brinson, sent a faxed response to Eyewitness News. Brinson says high school principal, Howard Fore, placed the camera in the bathroom last Sunday to control vandalism. He says Fore put the camera there "to discover the identity of those doing the damage." Brinson says the principal did tell Cindy Champion that the camera would be installed again. But in his statement Brinson says, "The camera was not placed back in the restroom, and will not be placed back in the restroom."
Eyewitness News tried to contact the Ocmulgee Circuit District Attorney about the legality of placing hidden cameras in public school rest rooms. He covers that area. Eyewitness News was not able to get in touch with him. But, Eyewitness News did talk with Bibb County District Attorney, Howard Simms. He says cameras in public school bathrooms are legal because schools have more leeway on privacy issues.
Man* lol :upsidedow, really people! Cameras in the bathrooms, at a school, come on now! thats fuked up! And they suspend the kid for finding it "doublethink" and the principal said he's going to keep it there...Isnt the public schools system part of the Government--How can we know this and not give a fuk- Thats a Shame--People really are in a state of denial-- AMERICA :o .. :thumbsup:
pisshead
12-02-2005, 04:41 AM
that's the normal response to get angry and think it's fucked up...
the doublethink response is the kid should be punished for finding a camera in a school bathroom...
it's incredible, isn't it?
Psycho4Bud
12-02-2005, 04:43 AM
All kidding aside this is HIGHLY against the law. It kind of compares to hidden cameras behind mirrors in changing rooms of department stores. I recall some chain really getting the shit sued out of them...just can't remember which one....maybe another hit! :thumbsup:
Psycho4Bud
12-02-2005, 04:45 AM
that's the normal response to get angry and think it's fucked up...
the doublethink response is the kid should be punished for finding a camera in a school bathroom...
it's incredible, isn't it?
Punished for "finding" the camera...NO! for "taking" the camera...? Really undecided. He should have contacted his parents and escorted them with a lawyer into the bathroom for some pics of the setup. Unfortunately, children wouldn't think of that option.
But of course you need to make assumptions of peoples posts due to the ignorant feature. Double thinker???? Single minded! :dance:
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 05:20 AM
Punished for "finding" the camera...NO! for "taking" the camera...? Really undecided. He should have contacted his parents and escorted them with a lawyer into the bathroom for some pics of the setup. Unfortunately, children wouldn't think of that option.
But of course you need to make assumptions of peoples posts due to the ignorant feature. Double thinker???? Single minded! :dance:Finding- taking--Ya he should of told his parents first, --No matter what u want to say about it---its just wrong that the principal would say he will keep it there-- You should be mad that cameras were in the restrooms not because some one says finding - its still fuked up to suspend him-- in all reality the Principal and whomever else that was involved should be in jail..... :twocents:
Psycho4Bud
12-02-2005, 05:23 AM
Finding- taking--Ya he should of told his parents first, --No matter what u want to say about it---its just wrong that the principal would say he will keep it there-- You should be mad that cameras were in the restrooms not because some one says finding - its still fuked up to suspend him-- in all reality the Principal and whomever else that was involved should be in jail..... :twocents:
I would be VERY suprised if he (the principle) wasn't put on a unvolentary suspension and the school district had a law suit against it.
Settle down dude, fire up a bowl and chiiiiiiiillllllllll :thumbsup:
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 05:31 AM
I would be VERY suprised if he (the principle) wasn't put on a unvolentary suspension and the school district had a law suit against it.
Settle down dude, fire up a bowl and chiiiiiiiillllllllll :thumbsup:I hope something is done- I hate for stuff like this get nation-wide in every school system-if not already...Im bowling right now man :stoned:
Psycho4Bud
12-02-2005, 05:34 AM
I hope something is done- I hate for stuff like this get nation-wide in every school system-if not already...Im bowling right now man :stoned:
Cameras in the halls, outside the building, shit like that would be within their scope for student safety but in the bathrooms? No way will that EVER be condoned! Imagine if that were a girls bathroom....like that shit would fly!
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 05:39 AM
Kids Being Conditioned To Big Brother and Police State
Steve Watson / Infowars | December 1 2005 (http://infowars.net/index.html)
When Kids are not at home (playing computer games (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/301105videogame.htm) depicting apocalyptic visions of America after the year 2008 where terror attacks carried out by anti-government militias force the European Union to send in an occupying armies which they must control to take out American citizens who resist) they are in school learning how to accept the Big Brother police state.
Central Georgia's 13WMAZ News Agency reported (http://wmaz.com/news/top_stories.aspx?storyid=20466) today that A Jasper County 8th grader found a video camera taping in the school bathroom.
Cindy Champion says her son and his friends took the camera out of the ceiling and brought it home to show her.
"It felt like the right thing to do...because it felt like we were being violated in every way in the bathroom." said 13 year old Mac Bedor.
http://infowars.net/pictures/news_files/Dec05/011205School.jpg
When Ms Champion contacted the Jasper County Comprehensive School, she found out that the high school principal, Howard Fore, had placed the camera in the bathroom to catch vandals.
Amazingly, Mac Bedor is now SUSPENDED from the school for for taking school property.
"I had told the high school principal, Mr. Fore, that he needed to come up with another solution. That this wasn't appropriate. His response to me was he was going to continue to film." Said Ms Champion.
This is not an isolated incident. We have previously reported on how Reyoldsburg High School in Ohio (http://seclists.org/lists/politech/2001/Feb/0008.html) has placed cameras in student bathrooms. Incidents have also occurred in Waco, Texas (http://wcbs880.com/water/watercooler_story_322114110.html) and Pine Bush, New York State. (http://www.recordonline.com/archive/2003/04/17/17edit.htm)
It seems that the message is Big Brother is watching and if you resist him you will be punished. These incidents reflect the slow creeping surveillance society's debilitating hacking at away at the fourth amendment. It is simply now accepted that we must all be watched even in the bathroom in case someone does something wrong at some point.
Our Schools and institutes of higher education are now total breeding grounds for the Big brother police state. Kids are conditioned from day one to accept surveillance and draconian security policies as the norm.
We have carried countless reports of Schools implementing mandatory student tracking (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/080205idcards.htm) devices containing RFID chips.
??Tagging? U.S. Schoolchildren (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2004/141204taggingchildren.htm) is becoming common practice:
"Lauren Tatro, 13, told her parents the plain facts. Every student at Brittan Elementary School (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/220205bravenewworld.htm) had to wear a badge the size of an index card with their name, grade, photo ?? and a tiny radio identification tag. The purpose was to test a new high-tech attendance system... she went home saying she felt like an orange."
Schools are now more like prisons, with the "inmates" wearing tracking devices (http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000017031341/), having to clock in and out with ID cards (http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=436842004), having to go through metal detectors (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/4167237.stm). Police patrol the halls armed with high powered Tasers (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2005/070105tasersinschools.htm), ready and willing to use them (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/271104taseronchildren.htm) on young children even though they are proven to cause death in fit healthy grown adults.
Not only is this the case in schools but also in Universities and colleges. Of course by this point the authorities need to know which buildings you are going into and exactly what books you are checking out at the library.
http://infowars.net/pictures/news_files/Dec05/011205card.jpg
Above is my own Student "SMART ID card" from when I was last at University. Admittedly this is now two years old and technology has undoubtedly moved on. Without the card I could not get through doors, I had to swipe my card to photocopy anything, I had to have my bar-code scanned in order to take out a book from the library, I have to have it scanned to pay my fees. My number was 4013186 and was in in category 65 (presumably this was the category for dangerous right wing radicals/left wing commies).
My card was also chipped, for which purpose I have no earthly idea, I guess it's in case someone wishes to forge a card and pretend to be a student because they cannot actually afford to pay the government £3000 a year for the privilege.
In short, the youth are being indoctrinated to accept as a norm the fact that they must scan or swipe to have access to buildings or books. It's also OK for authorities to store records of what you are reading or photocopying, and you must accept the chip. The majority do not even know they are represented by a Student's Union, they simply believe this to be the place where you go to get blind drunk at three in the afternoon.
Many Universities are brimming with "politically motivated" students who are so against loss of civil rights and erosion of freedom, yet when you mention that they already have a national ID card in their back pocket they pass it off as irrelevant.
There is also a dangerous precedent being set whereby kids are made to feel important if they carry a card or a chip. They can gain access to places other people cannot go, open doors electronically and have the use of superior resources. In actual fact the technology given to them can track their every move and is primarily a form of control.
By the time students leave education and move into the wider world, surveillance technology is everywhere (http://prisonplanet.com/Pages/Oct05/041005cashless.htm) and they are completely unfazed and totally conditioned to it.
UPDATE: 1/12/05 (16:10) - NEW DEVELOPMENTS
We interviewed Cindy Champion, the mother of Mac Bedor who outlined that she is proud of what her son did because it was what he felt was right. When he found the camera in his school bathroom he was appalled and insulted so he took action and removed it.
http://infowars.net/pictures/news_files/Dec05/011205Mac.jpg
Cindy is the mom of 5 and says her son probably did what he did because of her line of work, which is archiving news shows. She calls herself a ??diehard for the underdog.?
She is interested in talking to the media about this, but is concerned that once the news coverage goes away that they might reinstate the camera (We told her that we would never go away and that if that did happen she should get in touch with us)
Her son Mac was charged with ??theft by taking? of school property. The camera he found was a handheld camera, not a professional camera, but one of the cheap, insidious type you can acquire from the Internet.
We learned from Cindy that there was another student who took a photo of the camera prior to Mac??s awareness being alerted. This child and his parents took the picture to the Sheriff yet no action was taken. Furthermore only the high school principal knew about this and not the middle school principal or administration.
Cindy is dedicated to getting this story out to the American people because, she says, they arn't??t even sure if it is illegal and ??if it??s legal the American public needs to know so they can change it.?
Bibb County District Attorney, Howard Simms says cameras in public school bathrooms are legal because schools have more leeway on privacy issues.
Read that last paragraph----fuk that! training kids for a brave new world--Im sorry i c dis as strange & horrible situation we have going in the school system---
Psycho4Bud
12-02-2005, 05:43 AM
Read that last paragraph----fuk that! training kids for a brave new world--Im sorry i c dis as strange & horrible situation we have going in the school system---
Trying to protect cities interests. He knows the truth and is hoping that the parents of that district don't file a class action law suit! But they will, with good cause too! :thumbsup:
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 05:46 AM
Ya man, i see sueing all over the place with this restroom incident..or at least should be a day in court to get rid of the lame ass rule about cameras in the restroom..
Psycho4Bud
12-02-2005, 05:49 AM
Ya man, i see sueing all over the place with this restroom incident..or at least should be a day in court to get rid of the lame ass rule about cameras in the restroom..
The cameras will be removed when the city lawyers get ahold of this and you can bet your ass there will be a law suit and probably the dismissal of the principle. Fire the principle=pay less cash in law suit. You know how it works.
By the way, did ya vote down in the Indoor growing section...if so, what was your blend?
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 05:51 AM
Kids Being Conditioned To Big Brother and Police State
Steve Watson / Infowars | December 1 2005 (http://infowars.net/index.html)
When Kids are not at home (playing computer games (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/301105videogame.htm) depicting apocalyptic visions of America after the year 2008 where terror attacks carried out by anti-government militias force the European Union to send in an occupying armies which they must control to take out American citizens who resist) they are in school learning how to accept the Big Brother police state.
Central Georgia's 13WMAZ News Agency reported (http://wmaz.com/news/top_stories.aspx?storyid=20466) today that A Jasper County 8th grader found a video camera taping in the school bathroom.
Cindy Champion says her son and his friends took the camera out of the ceiling and brought it home to show her.
"It felt like the right thing to do...because it felt like we were being violated in every way in the bathroom." said 13 year old Mac Bedor.
http://infowars.net/pictures/news_files/Dec05/011205School.jpg
When Ms Champion contacted the Jasper County Comprehensive School, she found out that the high school principal, Howard Fore, had placed the camera in the bathroom to catch vandals.
Amazingly, Mac Bedor is now SUSPENDED from the school for for taking school property.
"I had told the high school principal, Mr. Fore, that he needed to come up with another solution. That this wasn't appropriate. His response to me was he was going to continue to film." Said Ms Champion.
This is not an isolated incident. We have previously reported on how Reyoldsburg High School in Ohio (http://seclists.org/lists/politech/2001/Feb/0008.html) has placed cameras in student bathrooms. Incidents have also occurred in Waco, Texas (http://wcbs880.com/water/watercooler_story_322114110.html) and Pine Bush, New York State. (http://www.recordonline.com/archive/2003/04/17/17edit.htm)
It seems that the message is Big Brother is watching and if you resist him you will be punished. These incidents reflect the slow creeping surveillance society's debilitating hacking at away at the fourth amendment. It is simply now accepted that we must all be watched even in the bathroom in case someone does something wrong at some point.
Our Schools and institutes of higher education are now total breeding grounds for the Big brother police state. Kids are conditioned from day one to accept surveillance and draconian security policies as the norm.
We have carried countless reports of Schools implementing mandatory student tracking (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/080205idcards.htm) devices containing RFID chips.
??Tagging? U.S. Schoolchildren (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2004/141204taggingchildren.htm) is becoming common practice:
"Lauren Tatro, 13, told her parents the plain facts. Every student at Brittan Elementary School (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/220205bravenewworld.htm) had to wear a badge the size of an index card with their name, grade, photo ?? and a tiny radio identification tag. The purpose was to test a new high-tech attendance system... she went home saying she felt like an orange."
Schools are now more like prisons, with the "inmates" wearing tracking devices (http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000017031341/), having to clock in and out with ID cards (http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=436842004), having to go through metal detectors (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/4167237.stm). Police patrol the halls armed with high powered Tasers (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2005/070105tasersinschools.htm), ready and willing to use them (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/271104taseronchildren.htm) on young children even though they are proven to cause death in fit healthy grown adults.
Not only is this the case in schools but also in Universities and colleges. Of course by this point the authorities need to know which buildings you are going into and exactly what books you are checking out at the library.
http://infowars.net/pictures/news_files/Dec05/011205card.jpg
Above is my own Student "SMART ID card" from when I was last at University. Admittedly this is now two years old and technology has undoubtedly moved on. Without the card I could not get through doors, I had to swipe my card to photocopy anything, I had to have my bar-code scanned in order to take out a book from the library, I have to have it scanned to pay my fees. My number was 4013186 and was in in category 65 (presumably this was the category for dangerous right wing radicals/left wing commies).
My card was also chipped, for which purpose I have no earthly idea, I guess it's in case someone wishes to forge a card and pretend to be a student because they cannot actually afford to pay the government £3000 a year for the privilege.
In short, the youth are being indoctrinated to accept as a norm the fact that they must scan or swipe to have access to buildings or books. It's also OK for authorities to store records of what you are reading or photocopying, and you must accept the chip. The majority do not even know they are represented by a Student's Union, they simply believe this to be the place where you go to get blind drunk at three in the afternoon.
Many Universities are brimming with "politically motivated" students who are so against loss of civil rights and erosion of freedom, yet when you mention that they already have a national ID card in their back pocket they pass it off as irrelevant.
There is also a dangerous precedent being set whereby kids are made to feel important if they carry a card or a chip. They can gain access to places other people cannot go, open doors electronically and have the use of superior resources. In actual fact the technology given to them can track their every move and is primarily a form of control.
By the time students leave education and move into the wider world, surveillance technology is everywhere (http://prisonplanet.com/Pages/Oct05/041005cashless.htm) and they are completely unfazed and totally conditioned to it.
UPDATE: 1/12/05 (16:10) - NEW DEVELOPMENTS
We interviewed Cindy Champion, the mother of Mac Bedor who outlined that she is proud of what her son did because it was what he felt was right. When he found the camera in his school bathroom he was appalled and insulted so he took action and removed it.
http://infowars.net/pictures/news_files/Dec05/011205Mac.jpg
Cindy is the mom of 5 and says her son probably did what he did because of her line of work, which is archiving news shows. She calls herself a ??diehard for the underdog.?
She is interested in talking to the media about this, but is concerned that once the news coverage goes away that they might reinstate the camera (We told her that we would never go away and that if that did happen she should get in touch with us)
Her son Mac was charged with ??theft by taking? of school property. The camera he found was a handheld camera, not a professional camera, but one of the cheap, insidious type you can acquire from the Internet.
We learned from Cindy that there was another student who took a photo of the camera prior to Mac??s awareness being alerted. This child and his parents took the picture to the Sheriff yet no action was taken. Furthermore only the high school principal knew about this and not the middle school principal or administration.
Cindy is dedicated to getting this story out to the American people because, she says, they arn't??t even sure if it is illegal and ??if it??s legal the American public needs to know so they can change it.?
Bibb County District Attorney, Howard Simms says cameras in public school bathrooms are legal because schools have more leeway on privacy issues.CHK out that computer game at the top of the page--Texas becomes its own country
Breukelen advocaat
12-02-2005, 05:55 AM
Read that last paragraph----fuk that! training kids for a brave new world--Im sorry i c dis as strange & horrible situation we have going in the school system---
Take it easy, man! This is an isolated incident, and we don't know all the facts. You can't spend your time worrying about every single thing that goes against the grain, or you'll get old very fast. Maybe the school went overboard with the camera, but I doubt that it was aimed into the toilet stalls. This grafitti problem IS a fucking pain, and I'm sure that the camera was a last resort. Short of putting security guards in the bathrooms all day, there wasn't much else that they could do.
Psycho4Bud
12-02-2005, 05:59 AM
CHK out that computer game at the top of the page--Texas becomes its own country
Looks like a cool game! But dude, trying to associate this game with hurricane katrina is like trying to associate Pissys NWO to Startrek. Alex Jones and Pissy really need to chill before they end up in an insane asylum!
Psycho4Bud
12-02-2005, 06:02 AM
This grafitti problem IS a fucking pain, and I'm sure that the camera was a last resort. Short of putting security guards in the bathrooms all day, there wasn't much else that they could do.
I agree with the grafitti thing and vandals but you can't put cameras in that type of area. Locker rooms, bathrooms, dressing rooms.....that is an invasion of privacy. If they need to, the teachers may have to take turns as monitors.
Breukelen advocaat
12-02-2005, 06:03 AM
I agree with the grafitti thing and vandals but you can't put cameras in that type of area. Locker rooms, bathrooms, dressing rooms.....that is an invasion of privacy. If they need to, the teachers may have to take turns as monitors.
Good luck with the teachers' union, lol!
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 06:05 AM
Hey BA i like that article you posted by cannabisculture website---I found it interesting- thanks
Psycho4Bud
12-02-2005, 06:08 AM
Good luck with the teachers' union, lol!
That is one of the problems with the school system these days....but considering their pay, well, why take on other responsibilities. I think the people that are teaching, raising our kids for 8 hours out of the day should feel a little more appreciation in the pocket! :thumbsup:
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 06:14 AM
Looks like a cool game! But dude, trying to associate this game with hurricane katrina is like trying to associate Pissys NWO to Startrek. Alex Jones and Pissy really need to chill before they end up in an insane asylum!I didnt read the article i just watched the video-I found that strange 2 ...the video
Psycho4Bud
12-02-2005, 06:17 AM
I didnt read the article i just watched the video-I found that strange 2 ...the video
You didn't read Pissys entire post word for word before commenting??? YOU FUCKIN' NEO-CON!!! You want to join me on the ignorant feature???? LOL :dance:
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 06:33 AM
You didn't read Pissys entire post word for word before commenting??? YOU FUCKIN' NEO-CON!!! You want to join me on the ignorant feature???? LOL :dance:I read the whole article that was posted but i was talking about clicking on the "computer game" i just watched the video and skim through it to see where the connection with katrina was... :D
Psycho4Bud
12-02-2005, 06:42 AM
I read the whole article that was posted but i was talking about clicking on the "computer game" i just watched the video and skim through it to see where the connection with katrina was... :D
I suppose ...give ya a break. It was just one of eighteen links within the post. :rolleyes:
so what was your vote on the smoke?
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 06:52 AM
i havent chk it out yet.. i get back 2 u on that
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-02-2005, 07:23 AM
i will vandalize all security cameras i encounter in all bathrooms i use that are in violative positions.
if the camera cant see me taking a shit, or see my equipment while im going, then i have no problems. that's the only way to save your surveilance cameras from me!
eg420ne
12-02-2005, 07:47 PM
I dont care what anyone says--cameras do no good for the people- it only aides the Govt big brother system--I know I know its for our safety--You dont want the terrorist 2 win do u--If cameras should be anywhere it should be at the borders, the police stations at the WhiteHouse and Congress thats where the majority of criminals activity occur.. ;)
pisshead
12-02-2005, 08:03 PM
this was a hallmark of the most brutal and oppressive government in george orwell's prediction, 1984, but today we're supposed to believe it's good and necessary to keep people safe...
bullshit. you're crazy to think forced drugging (new freedom initiative) is bad...you're crazy to think microchips are bad...you're crazy to think cameras everywhere is bad...cops need to wear ski masks and cover up their badges and bust down doors...being forced to show your ID is freedom! no bill of rights is the ultimate in freedom!!!
this is what the founders fought for.
people riot in china and tear down cameras in parks and towns, in the dictatorship china...but in america, land of the free, we lie down and smile.
come to england before u complain about security cameras lol, i dont really care though,it can help alot with serious crime such as kidnapping or murder, and i aint got shit all to do with that so why should it bother me??
Well public schools are a lot more about mind control, than they are education. It's been that way for the last 30 years or more.
I hate that zero tolerance crap too. I heard they busted a kid for the alcohol content in his mouth wash, and I actually have a friend who's son got put in a special jail like school facility for taking nail clippers to school. OK so since we are all adults here, who's up for a nail clipper fight? I mean it is a blade, but it would take so long to do any real damage... snip snip snip... painful though, I'd give them that much... Mouthwash party later?
I can't wait till self righteous G.W. steps up to those pearly gates he's fully expecting and Jesus gives him a taste of Zero Tolerance! Jesus grabs his AK and says get off my property boy, your trespassing... looting too. Shots fire, and bush runs like stray dog.
nicholasstanko
12-14-2005, 09:33 PM
Well public schools are a lot more about mind control, than they are education. It's been that way for the last 30 years or more.
I hate that zero tolerance crap too. I heard they busted a kid for the alcohol content in his mouth wash, and I actually have a friend who's son got put in a special jail like school facility for taking nail clippers to school. OK so since we are all adults here, who's up for a nail clipper fight? I mean it is a blade, but it would take so long to do any real damage... snip snip snip... painful though, I'd give them that much... Mouthwash party later?
I can't wait till self righteous G.W. steps up to those pearly gates he's fully expecting and Jesus gives him a taste of Zero Tolerance! Jesus grabs his AK and says get off my property boy, your trespassing... looting too. Shots fire, and bush runs like stray dog.
interesting...
they can never take our dreams.
very interesting...
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