Tricks of the trade

[kramllehctim]

OK guys, this ought to be interesting.

I want to hear from all you experienced growers some tricks you've learned in growing. There are a lot of crazy methods out there, but what really works??

For example:

1) Soon as male flowers begin to show up on a plant, I change the bucket of chemicals out and start fresh, then add an aspirin. It always produces female flowers within 1 week after I add the aspirin. SO I have a Hermie. The bottom flowers (male) never produce pollen. I end up with some pretty good bud :stoned:

2) Cutting back the lights for the first time to 12/12. My lights are on for 18hrs During the day, Then the first night of cutting them back, I leave the plant in the dark for 36hrs. ( a day & a half) Supposed to change the plant "mode" faster. I haven't seen much result with that though.

So let's all get together & hear what you guys do/learned to make a better crop.

MM :thumbsup:

[J DOG 6000]

That really works with the males and the asperin?
They stop producing male flowers after the asperin too?
Is the yield the same as a regular female of that strain?
I find this all hard to believe...but please proove me wrong.

[LOC NAR1958]

My first grow was northern lights. Dyna-gro nutes some epson salt and h2o2 that's all. 400 HPS no reflectant. 6 plants and i got 4 oz's. looked good but grew to big. Secound grow orange bud. Switched to GH 3 part, bud blood , big bud ,cal-mag plus , B-52, h2o2. 2 started slow and 1 is a monster bitch. I have harvested about 2 oz's so far . The monster bitch grew all up in my light and I cut it back it is taking longer to finish because of massive bud branching and I switched to a 1000 HPS the last 2 weeks to finish. I think about 4 to 5 oz's more if monster bitch fills in and fattens up. I'll put some pic's in my last grow thread soon , I just got my grow room almost finished almost.

[turtle420]

What would be the aspirin dosage?

1 tablet per 5 gallons? 2 tablets?

Very interesting...

[kramllehctim]

That really works with the males and the asperin?
They stop producing male flowers after the asperin too?
Is the yield the same as a regular female of that strain?
I find this all hard to believe...but please proove me wrong.

Ya, that's what I did, but not sure if it was just a freak accident or my plant was a hermie in the 1st place. I read another thread on here someone wrote on "how to make female seeds" They too their male plants and gave them asprin right before they pollinated, bred em with the females, and got female seeds. That's where I decided to try to change the harmones in my young plants with the asprin, but who knows? I'll keep doing it until my experiment shows to be false :)

[kramllehctim]

What would be the aspirin dosage?

1 tablet per 5 gallons? 2 tablets?

Very interesting...

Ya, I would like you others to try this with me and see if it really works.

one asprin to 2 gallons, use MH lamps during the process (or blue floro's)

[Zandor]

Dutch Master has a product called Feminiser that they say stops hermies. It can stop a male from producing pollen and if you have a hermie they say it can stop them from turning and produce flowers with no seeds.

[kramllehctim]

Dutch Master has a product called Feminiser that they say stops hermies. It can stop a male from producing pollen and if you have a hermie they say it can stop them from turning and produce flowers with no seeds.

That's cool. I do have some "Sensi-Soak" that is suppossed to make most of your seeds you sprout female but I haven't proven it to be a good product yet.

[Zandor]

That's cool. I do have some "Sensi-Soak" that is suppossed to make most of your seeds you sprout female but I haven't proven it to be a good product yet.
I have and I use it as well. I think there is a trick to using it or really just a slightly different way of germinating in the paper towel method. You do use only that formula and no water. I don't care what they say I use 100% of the Sensi-Soak to germinate my seeds NO water.

[Easy Roller]

A good tip i heard for cheap skates who need CO2 is to add a few mls of piss to a few litres of water...every pound of sugar added ferments into 1/2 ounce of CO2 gas!!! could be usefull in a small closet

[Easy Roller]

And fibre glass house insulater can be used as a rockwool substitute...go into your attic if supplies are low.......rinse well however!

[Easy Roller]

Oh and what about have a small weight and line hanging from the light which is cut to the excact lenght which u can use as an indicater of optimum distance from light to flower tip...saves fiddling about with a measuring tape!

[kramllehctim]

Now those are pretty good ones!

Except the CO2 trick. why? well some plants that are weak to diseases will get INFECTED! BAD! Power Plant by Dutch Pasion seeds is one to watch out for, it is very strong agaist bugs, but don't even touch the bastard or it'll get a fungus or virus. Using piss has lots of bacteria and ferments the sugar making mass amounts of CO2 like u said but, u increase a risk of disease.

very good feedback. this is exactly what I'm trying to generate here, tricks we all use to make growing better :thumbsup:

[Easy Roller]

heres one way round it.......seal the piss bottle, but have a tube going into the top and place the free end of the tube into a pot of conc' salt solution....that will seal the bacterial form the grow room ...you can visualy see CO2 bubbles burping up through the salt solution..the salt solution will prevent the bacteria from making it out of the CO2 generater alive! :D .Thus protecting the ganj

[Zandor]

I use tank co² and I also have a few propain generators as well that make plenty of CO². Pissing on plants is never a good idea to me.

[Easy Roller]

NO you don't piss ON the the plant dude......you piss into a container with a sugar solution. The bacteria ferments the sugar and liberates CO2 gas[1/2 oz per oz of sugar !].LOL

[rzaodb6]

So how exactly do u set up this co2 generator? u put sugar in water than piss in the mixture? sounds pretty nasty

[Easy Roller]

For the record ..i dont have a piss pot in my grow room.! It's something i read! Only a few cc's of urine to about two litres of water and 2 oz of sugar..change change/discard after two weeks or the alcohol content will kill the yeast[ oh brewers yeast can also be used] People put Bat turd and Fish paste IN grow media ,farmers spray Horse shit all over their fields .so a few drops of slash ain't gonna hurt!

[Gen]

Urine is sterile.

[Zandor]

Urine is sterile.
no it's not sterile. Sterilization take about 160f for about a minuet, so there is no way piss can be considered sterile and proper in a grow environment.

[Gen]

http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/utiadult/

This medical website says it is. I did a google and searched sterile urine.

[Gen]

When I was in China in 1980 I saw some amazing things. I was in Canton (a fairly large city). A man was walking down the street with honey buckets. They didn't have indoor plumbing and used the human waste (collected that morning) to fertilize their crops. I also saw a poor skinny chinese man with a huge hog (must have been 600 pounds) strapped to a wheel barrel he was taking to market. Market was a few miles away.

[Zandor]

That was about Urinary Tract Infections. The key word being "infections"

But if you want to piss on your plants then have a good time and enjoy the smoke.

[Easy Roller]

Jesus! You dont piss on the plant man!.........you piss in a bottle with a sugar solution..bacteria ferment the sugar and produce CO2 gas.The bottle can be outside of the cabinet with a tube linked to the inside. To see the gas being produced, one can place the free end of the tube into a glass of water and observe the bubbles burping out [slowley] . the principle is the same as a bong..to ensure no bacterial infections ..use conc' salt water in the glass!

[Easy Roller]

I'm talking a tea spoon amount of piss here...the bacteria culture grows in the bottle. HAS NOBODY HEARD OF THIS?

[kramllehctim]

OK, that's enough, I thought this would be a good topic.

Are there anymore tricks on getting better yield out there?

The best way I have discovered, other than using Co2, is to try and re-ceate nature. Wind, rain, Sun & Soil (Hydro!).

Thanks all of ya'll!

Peace.

MM

[harmonicminor]

I think someone should work with Sonic Bloom but make a spray without gibberic acid


and yeah piss is sterile and full of vitamins and antibodies of any health conditions supposedly
also havent you heard of recycling waste when doing Amanita Muscara mushrooms? makes ya trip harder

[turtle420]

I think someone should work with Sonic Bloom but make a spray without gibberic acid
I'm working with Sonic Bloom dude!!!

[J DOG 6000]

Can't you make CO2 with Vinager and Baking soda?
Seems better then piss.

[Easy Roller]

Yeh but it's more expensive! the wholw point of doing the piss pot generator is to save on bread!


The piss idea is just a suggestion however! I read it !and to be honest ..I don't think it's that bad an idea....but I'm a scientist..not a squeemish type..and b4 anybody says...it wouldn't make the plant or grow room smell of piss! Unless your gonna piss on the plant instead of in the piss pot CO2 generator!

[harmonicminor]

just make a batch of homebrew in there. you can harvest beer n buds :-)
and Turtle .... are you doing side by side comparisons as well? and how is it working out???? I have the sonic bloom sound file but need to play it with something down there somehow. plus what are you using for nutes?

[turtle420]

and Turtle .... are you doing side by side comparisons as well? and how is it working out???? I have the sonic bloom sound file but need to play it with something down there somehow. plus what are you using for nutes?

No side-by-side... I don't have the space luxury to carry out an appropiate experiment.
How is it working out? Well, you can see my girls in my thread http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=532669#post532669
They seem to be doing pretty good.

As to playing the music, I bought a $35 CD player/radio in Sears... it has two speakers... and that's it. I then bought two pairs (4 total) of automotive tweeters @ $5 each... so each speaker channel has two tweeters. The reason I did this is because the Sonic Bloom literature says to turn the 'trebel' setting on your radio to MAX. But because my radio is a $35 PoS, it has no 'trebel' setting. So I just plugged in the tweeters. Music is ON for 24/7.

For nutes, well, I've been using:
Brita water, SuperTHRIVE, FulMag PLUS, Dark Energy, bat guano (high in Nitrogen), and Schlutz Cactus Juice.
But tomorrow's watering will consist of Brita water, SuperTHRIVE and the Schlutz, as per Dr. RastaKaze's recommedations.

Thanks for asking, I can't say if the music has helped the plants or not, but I can tell you, by having that music 24/7 in the background through my room, I've been more at ease... now I hum the music when I'm in the car!!!

Anything else, please let me know! :smokin:

Best,

-turtle420 :cool:

[Easy Roller]

There is no reason why this thread can't become legendary ifwe all share the tip and tricks that we think of from time to time!!!!

The photos show a good way of makig a scaffold to bring plants nearer the light instead of bringing the light nearer the plants!!! Which in my case is essntial as the light is fixed to a wooden frame made from 2 triangles and a cross bar[ better than drilling into the top of my closet!]

Someone gave me a metre of tube from his work site! and bang...it works a treat with a little foresight!!

[Gen]

Don't get it.

[Midnight Baker]

Cheap Co2

2L bottle, Lime Chips, Vinegar. (i'll find the link for you all)

Put some chips in the 2L bottle (1/4) and pour some vinegar in and it will produce Co2. You can rig up some tubing from the top of the bottle to target a specific plant or right in front of a fan to target a larger area. This is a very cheap method and you can make a bunch of these for next to nothing.

Hurray for science huh!

[Midnight Baker]

this is the link to where i found the cheap Co2 set up.


http://forums.klozitking.net/index.php/topic,1029.0.html

hope this helps someone

[Easy Roller]

Here are some more pics to explain what I was chatting about

[Gen]

Very clever, easy roller.

Midnight baker great link. I will have to try this. So much good information out there.

[xiansi]

Cheap cO2: Buy a pound of dry ice, put little pieces in a bucket under or near your plants with enough water to cover the ice. As the dry ice melts it produces cO2 in the room and pushes out most of the oxygen. Just add a few pieces a few times a day.