we're all addictied

[moeburn]

people these days find so many things to get addicted to. weed, drugs, alcohol, sex, pain, suffering, depression, disease, sickness attention, school, work, sports, friends, family, the comfort of your loved one in your arms...

some people can't do without these things, some people go a little crazy without them. some people will lie, cheat and steal to get these things.

what i dont understand, is why people think they can't do anything about it, when they are well aware that its a problem.


It was the choice I made first that put me on the road to ruin. It was the choice I made before I lost control that caused me to lose control.

Temptation didn't force me to do it, I chose to succumb to temptation. I had the choice at the beginning.

then why the hell dont you think you have the choice now...

[Onelove420]

im not addicted i can quit smoking at any time but i dont want too.

[passit420]

i agree. i think people are addicted to anything good though. if u had the opportunity without getting caught or anyone noticing, you would steal a car, you would steal a bottle of soda, you would steal diamonds, you would steal a pack of gum. people feel the need to take things from birth.

[moeburn]

no passit, thats not true, why do people believe that? believing that is what fucks people up and makes them depressed in the first place. believing that "if it were my choice, i'd just give into temptation."

cause once you believe that, you start to look for things to control you. some people take drugs so they can blame the drugs. some people become hypochondriacs, so they can have a disease to blame.

why can't people believe that the ultimate goal isn't temptation?

[Onelove420]

my ultimate goal is living life to the fullest and exploring every avenue of my brain. and figuring out the point of life.

[daZenfmeister]

Thats a good goal onelove thats gonna get you killed, but at least you'll live a full life right?

Anyways I'm pretty addicted......to food and air and water....im afraid i'll die if i try to stop tho..

[jakenthegentiles]

i can and have quit for 6 mounths at a time 2 xs alredy just cause i wanted to lower emy tollerance and i was on probation

[moeburn]

i can and have quit for 6 mounths at a time 2 xs alredy just cause i wanted to lower emy tollerance and i was on probation
you're one of the more optimistic ones.

but i've noticed that with us weed smokers in particular, alot of us are more depressed, apathetic, and have more learned helplessness than the sober crowd.

[passit420]

i am addicted to weed, i am not dependent on weed. weed makes a good time. so do my other hobbies, such as wakeboarding, sailing and taking long walks on the beach. marijuana interests me more than anything. i would love to have a career researching it. i am addicted only in the sense that if i could toke right now, i would. i do not need weed, i am not dependent upon it.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

no passit, thats not true, why do people believe that? believing that is what fucks people up and makes them depressed in the first place. believing that "if it were my choice, i'd just give into temptation."

cause once you believe that, you start to look for things to control you. some people take drugs so they can blame the drugs. some people become hypochondriacs, so they can have a disease to blame.

why can't people believe that the ultimate goal isn't temptation?
okay this is already a pissing contest with two winners.


lmao.



firstyl, if you could get away with it, you would, no denying this, but also, not all people do things to get away with them, some people do things not because they realy want to, but so that they can get attention.


attention seekers give people doing the same things (but for REASON) a bad name.


attention seekers give pot tokers a bad name, attention seekers give thieves a bad name, attention seekers give attention seekers a bad name lol.


me? i dont feel a need for anything but food, sex, and pot, three things that CAN be aquired for free, but NOT within modern society; you have to buy everything, even love (no house/job/car no honey).


my ultimate goal is to enjoy, to live without conflict.

i want to eat for free without being attacked, without having to steal to eat, or be attacked for stealing to survive.

i want to get stoned for free, without being attacked for... wel.. im really not sure what...

i want to be loved, and have others to love, both physically, and mentally.


these are things that only rich people can really have y'know... >=C

[50BagOfGreens]

Fuck You moeburn, FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Fuck You moeburn, FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!i think that was a little uncalled for :D

[daZenfmeister]

you're one of the more optimistic ones.

but i've noticed that with us weed smokers in particular, alot of us are more depressed, apathetic, and have more learned helplessness than the sober crowd.

It may seem that way for alot of people but when it comes down to it i think most of us would be able to buckle down and do just fine without smoking. its just when you're sober getting high doesnt seem like much of a change but when you're high you think omg i need to stop doing this im a drug addict. i think its somewhere between the two. :stoned:

[NightProwler]

god.... i have no friends.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

god.... i have no friends.same here, all my friends are digital letters...


online peronalities that probably dont REALLY exist....

[Nochowderforyou]

no passit, thats not true, why do people believe that? believing that is what fucks people up and makes them depressed in the first place.

"No, that's not true" What, you know everything or something. You have an opinion, now let them have theirs. Here is mine, on the topic of depression.

To start, the unexpierienced, are always the most ignorant.

You don't really understand true depression, do you? People have have manic-depression or bi-polar, is not something they can switch on and off, or what you call, a mental thing.

I am bi-polar, have been since I was 15, I know all about depression, and I can tell you it isn't in our minds :rolleyes: It's called a lack of serentonin. This is a natural chemical your body produce and people who are bi-polar or depressed, have a lack of this chemical and that's what causes the depression. These chems. are kinda, trapped in your body, they need something to help release it, that's where presciption drugs come in. Some of them, diff. ones for diff. people, help free these trapped chems. so a person can function normal again.

You're not a know it all, you know jack shit, saying we are ALL addicted. Different drugs do diff. things to diff. people, just because YOU are addicted, doesn't mean the rest of us are.

[420purplehaze420]

you're one of the more optimistic ones.

but i've noticed that with us weed smokers in particular, alot of us are more depressed, apathetic, and have more learned helplessness than the sober crowd.
your hanging out with the wrong stoners, weed alone does not make people sercome to such qualities unless they were atleat a bit already like that.

[zman0185]

ok passit right on this one at least partly.addiction to me is only a label.if addiction is something that people look for to control thier lives then everyone is addicted to something because everything in life controls us somehow.there are cars so people drive.i like pepsi so when i go to the store i take pepsi over everything else on the shelf.i wear shoes i piss in a toilet.these things control how i act and live in some way so yeah im addicted and so is everyone else in some way or another.im addicted to pissing in my toilet,im addicted to fucking my wife im addicted to the television and I AM ADDICTED TO THE POT I SMOKE.and much much more.you dont have to do drugs to be an addict.hope that gives a bit of a different perspective on this....z

[50BagOfGreens]

FUCK MOEBURN!!!!! :D just kidding ^ thats some deep shit man, seriously

[Corporal Punishment]

i used to be addicted, but moeburn i think its a bit of both. i let myself get addicted to a point, then its a bit hazy, then i WAS addicted. and got really depressed. i wasn't in a good position in life then anyway, but weed definitely made it worse. when i was addicted it was "i have this problem i can't get away from so i'll just blaze til i'm out of my mind and it'll be ok", it wasn't. now (i've been clean 6 weeks) i have problems, but i still carry on with life.

[Green Screen]

To tell you the truth I dont think there is any way to tell whether you are addicted or not unless you actually tell yourself youll quit and try to go for it, then see how your body and mind respond. If you just say "im gonna quit for a month or two to prove it to myself" its kind of pointless, as your mind will still have the comfort of thinking about what it will be like when those one or two months are over. Periodiclly stopping does nothing, because you body will automaticly wait out whatever span of time your quitting for, as long as you get your fix after that.

[stothelutz]

Everything you do is an addiction. You eat because your stomache nags your brain to eat until you finaly do eat to get the nice chemical relief of being full. Same goes for sleeping, drinking, sex and prety much anything you do. Weed is defirent imho I think we (or at least I) smoke weed because an altered reality is much more fun/interesting then one that I live in everyday and it must release some kind of hormone because I always feal happy when I'm high.

Hormons and chemicals control most peoples lives or at least have a major effect on it.

[passit420]

yes, exactly. something inside us craves things. for example boobs. boobs dont exactly do anything, but they sure do make men feel good. why? Everyone is addicted to something in some form. Over achievers have to get good grades, some cry if they get a b+. others are hooked on sports, and for others, food. gluttony is overtaking america. a big mac is less healthy than a joint for christs sake, but the govt doesnt give a shit. we need all them rich people who smoke herb to get active. everything is addictive phsycologically. another example, obsessive compulsive people. they are addicted to certain pattern every day. if it changes, their whole fucking world crashes in.

[RedRainDrop]

im not addicted i can quit smoking at any time but i dont want too.

What every tobbacco addict says:P no, i bet you cant quit...

i however dont smoke ciggy's i only smoke pot, and i dont ever want to quit :stoned:

[Corporal Punishment]

no, everything is not an addiction. there's a difference between necessities (food) and addictions (weed).

[heavymetal101]

I wouldnt put weed in the addiction catagory. I have been smokin for a year and I have never been addicted I know becuse I have stopped before for quite a while. Corporal punishment, are you a new smoker or just a new member here??

[heavymetal101]

People arent depressed becuase they smoke if anything there happier!! Ignorance always comes with the newness of things. You just got to got around once and you'll get it. Us potheads are quite simple people if you ask me!! We may have complex things going on around us and shit but for the most us ourselves are just mellows people, man.

[Green Screen]

yes, exactly. something inside us craves things. for example boobs. boobs dont exactly do anything, but they sure do make men feel good. why? Everyone is addicted to something in some form. Over achievers have to get good grades, some cry if they get a b+. others are hooked on sports, and for others, food. gluttony is overtaking america. a big mac is less healthy than a joint for christs sake, but the govt doesnt give a shit. we need all them rich people who smoke herb to get active. everything is addictive phsycologically. another example, obsessive compulsive people. they are addicted to certain pattern every day. if it changes, their whole fucking world crashes in.
Actually the reason men like boobs is because they are forbidden in our society. Breasts are almost worshipped because we were taught from a young age that they are "naughty". The media is also no help in this, defining boobs as sexy and offering side shots almost every other TV show. In all honesty a breast is just a sack of fat with a nipple on it, and if you go to some country where the chicks run around with no shirts on I bet the men there will be way less interested in boobs.

[heavymetal101]

it's not just a piece of fat with a nipple! I take pride in having nice good size breasts!! Boobs help babies whenever they need it most. A mothers milk helps the baby fight off certain sicknesses a baby can get, plus A WHOLE BUNCH more.

The reason people are so obssessed with women;s breast is the we just keep steeping to lower and lower levels, lusting over every gorgous women or mans bady. Something that has been a huge downfall on all society I think. For ex. I think that with all the strippers and everyone, It's making the rate of rape go up more and more. From expierence men dont like to be teased as much as they like to actually be pleasured. Well some of these men who go to strip joints just get teased a whole bunch and then want some pussy. Well they cant actually get any so they resort to raping someone. This is all because of what man has done to itself.

We're ruining ourselves more and more. Me personally I try to reframe from as much sexual activity as I can unless I have grown "something" between me and that special dude. We put too high of standards up as well.


It's not that they are forbidden, it's quite the opposite, it's such we have produced onpun oursleves such a strong sex appeal that, thats all people want now a days. everyone obsesses about how they look and how everyone else looks around them. People just need to chill out and just except people for who they are, not what they look like! Big boobs or not!! lol

[EciRonTog]

I â??quitâ?� all the time, it happens when I run out of money. :rolleyes:

But seriously, the very fact that I can't just walk into any random store and buy weed ensures that from time to time I won't be able to aquire any weed. Other times, i'm just plain broke... Sometimes, I have plenty but choose to abstain if the location is not appropriate (formal events). When I go on trips, I neither attempt to take weed with me on the plane nor attempt to aquire it once I get to my destination. I simply acknowledge that i'm not going to smoke weed while i'm on the trip and it doesn't bug me. I'm not sure how well that would work out for a tobacco smoker or a heroin user...

Now given the choice to smoke weed or not to smoke weed, i'll always choose to smoke weed because I very much enjoy it.

[yzstoned]

weed isnt addictive its jus so much fun, jus like ppl who sit around and play video games all day its just something to do thats really fun

[LightGreen]

i smoke weed every day and i am not addicted, i am at my dads house for vacation and i havent smoked in 5 days and wont smoke for another 5 until i get home. I dont need any substance to keep me going. Although i do believe people get addicted to many things in their lives and they dont realize. Think about it, for example if u could ent watch tv for a long period of time would u have a problem with that , i belive alot of people would and they dont realize that they are addicted to day to day things in their lives

[Onelove420]

your hanging out with the wrong stoners, weed alone does not make people sercome to such qualities unless they were atleat a bit already like that.

hes right when me and my friends smoke its a good time and were loving life. enojying the high.

[CannabisGeorge]

im not addicted i can quit smoking at any time but i dont want too.


Not to be an ass-hole, but seriously thats what ALL addicts say. I knew a guy that was addicted to herion. "Oh I can stop anytime I want, but its really no big deal if I do it" His friends and family kept trying to get him off. Then one day he just says ok I'll do it, I'll quit. Guess what? He couldnt. He couldnt put the needle down for more than a week! He even went to rehab. AFter that he was hospitalized for a Herioin overdose. And later killed himself out of depression.

It's not a big deal cuz its only nicotine, but serioulsy, your addicted.

[moeburn]

i am bipolar too, cognitive behavioral therapy seems to have no long-term help on me. some people think i'm a crack addict because of the symptoms i feel.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

"No, that's not true" What, you know everything or something. You have an opinion, now let them have theirs. Here is mine, on the topic of depression.

To start, the unexpierienced, are always the most ignorant.

You don't really understand true depression, do you? People have have manic-depression or bi-polar, is not something they can switch on and off, or what you call, a mental thing.

I am bi-polar, have been since I was 15, I know all about depression, and I can tell you it isn't in our minds :rolleyes: It's called a lack of serentonin. This is a natural chemical your body produce and people who are bi-polar or depressed, have a lack of this chemical and that's what causes the depression. These chems. are kinda, trapped in your body, they need something to help release it, that's where presciption drugs come in. Some of them, diff. ones for diff. people, help free these trapped chems. so a person can function normal again.

You're not a know it all, you know jack shit, saying we are ALL addicted. Different drugs do diff. things to diff. people, just because YOU are addicted, doesn't mean the rest of us are.i can never stress this enough, the drugs arent helping, you think the drugs help, and THAT THOUGHT IS WHAT MAKES IT WORK.


literally, you're only curing yourself, "proof" that a medicine works, just makes it easier for people to believe it works, just makes it work.

the problem here, however, is that endorphines also reduce depression...

and desireable situations also help release these chemicals, therefore, a depressed person is most likely someone who has little to no desirable situations in his/her life, and relying on a drug is only making it OKAY for that person to suffer not having any desirable situations.

they are still mentally depressed, but their bodies are pumping out all these chemicals that trick them into thinking they arent depressed.




STOP IT GOD DAMNIT!!!