Grow log! Bubble gum... !First Grow!

[Haggiz]

Okay, I got this plant under a 100w cfls (well one of those energy saving one, like an 18w thing?) These pictures are of my Nirvana Bubblelicious plant after 9 days, I am going to put it on 12-12 when it is only about 6-7 inches due to limited grow space. How much bud do you think I could get outa that, if any? Any advice on anything would be mucho respected! Cheers...

[Completely Stoned]

Dude, those "100W but only uses 18W" lights are really only 18W of light. It will grow So slow trying to suck up what little light you give it. Feed it at LEAST 100W of pure flouro. HAND IT THE LUMENS MAN!

[Haggiz]

It says its 1100 lumen which is what a 100 W, I think it is 100W just energy saving no?
Uses the same power as an 18? Am I wrong?

[RastaKaze]

It looks like it should at day 9. I wouldn't stress over it... I mean the nodes could be a little more compact but overall your OK. I would suggest getting some more lights for veg, floros all the way. But your not going to get shit if you use floros for flower... well no you will... just a very little amount. And it will be very airy, wispy strenched out lanky buds. I would suggest a 150w hps system you should be able to find one for pretty cheap and that'll do for one plant.

[Haggiz]

A 150w hps system? Yeah I know what they are? Nah! Could someone explain? How much you reckon I could yield if I started 12-12 at like 7 inches?

[Marc Benson]

Minimum required (by almost all info you can find on the internet) is 2000 lumens per square foot. Just to barely keep it alive. 5000 as a medium and 7500 as primo. So 1100 is a long way from that.

And actually they aren't just 18watts of light. They use 18watts which is why people use them i.e. for the energy savings.

But I agree with CS. You need more juice.

Maybe you should look into LST (low stress training) instead of going 12/12 when it's just barely past the seedling stage (6-7"). Relieves some of the concerns with height constraints.

[SeedKing72]

I think you need some more light myself.. Good luck!!

[Haggiz]

Would I even get a 1/4 out of this idea to go 12/12 at 7 inch? How much could I yield from it? I might read into this LST stuff though...

[meloncoly]

if you flowered at 7" with an 18w floro you'd be lucky to get a joint, get more light, if you can't afford an HPS system, just get 4/5 more floros around it, cool and warm white, you'd yield something with those

[RastaKaze]

you can also buy a relatively cheap 200w porcelain fixture and a normal 200w house bulb.. this will provide more light in the red spectrum. although it dosent compare at all to would you could do with hid's

[budman2000]

Get a 400 watt Metal halide for kit for around 300 bucks, itll be worth it dude, youll probably more than triple what you will get now.

[chronic4life]

wut! dont even think of flowering a perfectly good bubblgum plant at 7 inches especially under that weak light you have! it wouldent matter so much if you had at least a 150w of light but it is just a waste of a plant and a waste of your time to even attempt to flower that. if i were you i would keep on veging it until you get a bigger light to flower it. otherwise i would be happy to take it off your hands!

[smokeallday]

go either with the 400w mh or at least 2 more 43 real watts cfl's. cool white would be better for this stage.

[Haggiz]

Well I get two more 100w cfls. I will maybe consider flowering slightly later then 7 inch if I am not gonna get anything from it. I've only actually spent about £8 on this grow. (Which is really tight of me I know)
Heres my Day 11 shots-
Thoughts, would be mucho respected...

[Marc Benson]

My question would be what is the brown stuff on the bottom of the stalk???

[RastaKaze]

Can you take a pic of her in her environment?? What are you doing for airflow? She's looking good but with some simple improvements you could make her life much more pleasurable :) I see you mist her, that's good. But for even better results, add the following to a 2 liter bottle:

1 Teaspoon active dry yeast (available at your local grocery store)
1 Liter warm water

Now shake until the yeast is fully dissolved. Then, add:

2 Cups sugar

And shake again. Then, add a final 1/2 liter of water and give one last shake until everything is dissolved. You'll see bubbles rising to the top of the bottle.. That's co2. Plants take in c02, and emit oxygen, which in turn makes the plant grow.. Place one or two of these units in her home and she will thank you for it :) But only use during her lit hours as plants only perform photosnythesis when light is provided.. You will notice an increased growth rate over the next few days.. You should be getting one set of leaves (not to when they're visible, I mean when they are tough, MATURED leaves) every two days to say the least.. Anyway give it a try man It'll definitely make a difference.

Peace :D

[Haggiz]

Woow, that mixture would make like a bath load how can I make like a smaller ammount of that,
1/3 teaspoon yeast (is that the bread stuff),
1/3 litre warm water

Shake it up till dissolved

then 0.6 cups a sugar and shake again. then add more water, kay thats fine.
I spray this on the plant yes? Not feed it at the bottom?

[RastaKaze]

No, I am sorry I worded it like I meant spray it on.. just put the listed amounts into a 2 liter, and place it in your grow room, or make a few of them.. can't hurt to have more. You'll see little bubbles rising out of the concoction once its all mixed up. That's co2. Check it regularly, and when it stops bubbling, add another 2 cups of sugar. This will give you a constant (although unmeasurable) flow of co2. But remember co2 is lighter then air thereore the top of the bottle MUST be at a higher point then the plants.. or else they will not uptake any co2.

Cheers

[RastaKaze]

Yes, the bread stuff :)

[Haggiz]

This will give you a constant (although unmeasurable) flow of co2. But remember co2 is lighter then air thereore the top of the bottle MUST be at a higher point then the plants.. or else they will not uptake any co2.

Cheers

If it needs the uptake should the top of the bottle not be under the plants? I open the lid, right?

[RastaKaze]

Oh, sorry, my bad, its heavier then air... Anyway yes leave the cap off, and just put the bottle/s (I see much better results with 2..) in the grow room, top of bottles ABOVE the plants.

Cheers

[Haggiz]

Okay I set up that bottle idea and have put it in place this morning. It has grown another node since last update which is cool. I will be switching to flowering on the 22nd of this month. I am just gonna try it with the two maybe three fluros. I could possibly get 400w from them. I'm just gonna fot this cheap, first grow after all! Any help or advice or critisisms would be mucho respected...

[Haggiz]

Heres some pictures of it, the brown tips were from the light, I left it to close I'm sure. Won't happen again. What do you guys nd girls think? I am still planning to go 12/12 on the 22nd day (23rd October). It says 8 weeks flowering time. Do I have to wait that long? (Yes, impatient I know).

[walyjointer]

i would say bend it over or top it for space it will make it much more dense and u could get more out of it that way for space.. bend it if u cant wait too long cause if u top it has to recover from it. and get something like a fullspectrum cfl. maybe a 45w or 85w. giving u more lumens for not much more electrcity. and u will prob have to wait more liek 9-10 weeks cause with not too much light it will take longer to mature and u dont want to harvest earlier then 8 cause u will be disapointed in its high, its worth it to wait till is at peak THC content

[Fugitive]

Hey about the co2 tháng.. what exactly happens if you leave it at night/dark? In other words is any damage done?

[Joel]

Your CO2 would be wasteless. You could not use it, it could eventually become harmfull to your enviroment that you're living in.

If you know photosynthesis, you know the way CO2 works.

[Powder Puff]

uhm, does that mean the plant(s) die if you leave the co2 standing around when the lights are of?

[Fugitive]

OK lol never heard photosynthesis before :confused: would it mean that i would have to go into my attic and screw a bottle top onto the bottle everytime before lights go out. that is out of my control.. dam is there another way of doing this?

[BukDatAss]

Get a fan so you can keep those CFLs close to the plants