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Anastrophy
09-25-2005, 02:34 PM
hey everyone ive posted a few times before. this is my first setup and i know that theres all sorts of grow faq's out there and ive read them and ive learned a shitload in the time that ive been doing this. all three of these plants are roughly 2 weeks old, give or take a day in between their sprouting time. im using a 95w fluorescent grow light, 4 gallons of purified water in the resevoir, using foxfarm nutes and some hygrozime which the hydro shop dude suggested, and i spray them once a day with a mixture of spray n grow and dutch masters penetrator. it took a bit to find some mylar but i did and that works great. i also have a bathroom fan on the back of my cabinet that sucks out air at 50cfm and ive got a regular fan in there to circulate air. its a little warm in there, going between 77-89 degrees farenheit with humidity between 25-45 percent. i checked out the root mass yesterday and i did see some brown, but except for the bottom of the resevoir tub that sits on the floot, ive totally lightproofed the bucket and lid and i did just change the nutrients friday. i think its just the nutes making the color because im using a bubble bucket method so its constantly being misted by the bubbles. oh yeah, ive got 3 14 inch airstones in there and one 10-30 gal. air pump and one 30-60 gal. air pump that i got a walmart. i would just like a few outside opinions on how everyone thinks my plants are doing or if anyone sees anything wrong with them. please dont link me to faq's the point here is to get multiple outside opinions from other hydro growers. any and all are greatly appreciated. :D

Zandor
09-25-2005, 03:52 PM
Your humidity is to low for this cycle and the temperature is to hot. Going above 85f for extended periods will cause the plant to transpire to much thus work to hard. Try too lower the temperature into the 70's. You can raise the light a little with the bulb you are using and that would help. RH should be around 60-70% for the vegetation cycle.

Anastrophy
09-25-2005, 04:24 PM
the thing is that this floro makes like no heat dissipation at all it has a built in ballast. i dont know what to do to raise the humidity and its pretty hard to even get the temperatuture into the 70's i was thinking of an aquarium chiller but those are kinda expensive. i dunno, im willing to play up to like 150 dollars for one i guess cuz temp is vital but im trying to be cost effective. this is a stealth grow hidden inside a dresser about 15 inches deep, 4 feet tall, and about 3 feet wide. i got that bathroom fan in there to suck air out and a regular fan to blow air around, i just cant figure out what to use to make the temperature cool in there and stay cool.

Anastrophy
09-26-2005, 01:53 PM
29 views and one reply huh? nobody still answered my question if they looked healthy or not. damn lazy potheads....

turtle420
09-26-2005, 03:22 PM
Anastrophy,

Hey man... please keep us updated with your girls... they look great! Trully amazing. They're like all green and with leaves... nice... :)

[NOTE: I've never grown weed in my life... so those opinions are to be taken with a grain of salt.]

On a more serious note, I guess you could:


Zandor::: Your humidity is to low for this cycle and the temperature is to hot. Going above 85f for extended periods will cause the plant to transpire to much thus work to hard. Try too lower the temperature into the 70's. You can raise the light a little with the bulb you are using and that would help. RH should be around 60-70% for the vegetation cycle.

Also, get the fan blowing on them leaves... make them flutter...

More pictures!

snow owl
09-26-2005, 03:38 PM
I have one of those 95w cfl's and its a load of shit they don't dissapate heat, especially if it is in a confined space, you'll get a build up. Go buy the glass shield and a 4" flange and exhaust it with a 80cfm inline fan and flex tube available at Home Depot. Seal the the edges where the reflector meets the glass with duct tape to create a better vaccuum. I did this and it worked great. Will cost you $45 -$50.

Peace
Snow Owl

Anastrophy
09-26-2005, 05:19 PM
well snow owl its a cfl with a built in ballast, sure i am aware the ballast dissipates heat. maybe you could be more specific and tell me what exactly to buy and how to put it together? remember, this is my first grow. and hey turtle i got more pics. i was lookin in a high times mag at 3 week old plants in soil this morning and damn they're huge. this high end bagseed but hey, this shit stinks for being a little over 2 weeks old. smells like gasoline. as soon as i touch a plant and shake it at all, a huge whiff of aroma comes rushing at me :) after this i wanna grow some danky dank. some bomb shit that will make me feel like im flying or falling into the sky. not the shit that makes you sink 10 feet into a couch. me and my bro were checkin out reefermanseeds.com for the safest delivery and best quality to the states. anyway, here's the pics, and when i was at work my bro trimmed them, cuz they're getting really big.

SeedKing72
09-26-2005, 06:34 PM
It is hard to get the temp down..I been fighting the temp thing my whole grow, I hover in the 82-84 and I wish I could get it down in the 75-77.. Luckily the temp outside is lowering.. Could you move it close to a A/C vent.. Its hard, but don't fret over it. Some other people on here have said they have had some awesome grows in the 80's. All you can do is what you can do.. I wonder how the hell this stuff grows outside in Mexico with 90-105 temps, But I guess you cant compare OUTSIDE to inside.. I have 3 fans, a clip on TWO 22 inch fans, blowing out the hot air on the top.. sucking cool air in from the bottom. still in the lows 80's

Anastrophy
09-27-2005, 01:03 AM
i cant believe it but they are already starting to smell....really strong. i cant wait to smoke these bitches if they are bitches. that damn mexican weed probably gets fried from being so hot thats why it sucks. anyone know if reeferman seeds is legit? this is fun i wanna grow for life.

Garden Knowm
09-27-2005, 03:16 AM
yes they look FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK GREAT!!!
: )

Harvest tonight... the leaves will give great smoke..!!!!
:p

Anastrophy
09-27-2005, 03:35 PM
FUCK! i think when i changed the water on friday the water temp was WAY too warm i think i got root rot on friday in these plants and im gonna post pics. im gonna try to rinse the plants but i dont know how to cure this what do i do? :confused:

actually, i just touched them and i think it just got the color of the nutrients cuz it happened the same day i changed the mix out. all of the roots are nice and hard, but heres some pics anyway on the one plant. oh yeah, thats another thing, the other 2 looked perfectly healthy and it would have affected all three...wow i dont know why the fuck im gonna post i think i just answered my own question but im really stoned and i already spent all this time, so fuck it. next time i post ill tell a really cool type of bong that got me this waY. :D

Zandor
09-27-2005, 03:53 PM
If you want to bring down the temperature you can do it manually with Ice nutrients.

You make up your nutrient for you tank like normal but you mix a few extra gallons and use the food storage things. They are about 4"x4"x3" thick you fill them with nutrients you just mixed. Place the lid on tight and freeze it. Make several of them and use one or too a day it will keep your water cool and replace used up water and nutrients as well at the same time. It's not as good as a chiller but it does work just more work for you.

Garden Knowm
09-29-2005, 01:57 AM
thanks for the pics.. the roots look ok from what I can see

Anastrophy
09-29-2005, 03:16 PM
i havent looked at my plants in two days and they have fucking exploded! they are just under 3 weeks old and when i got home from graveyard shift i walked in and it fuckin reeked in here. i opened my cabinet and jesus must have been breathing life into my crop. the 2 plants in the middle spot and on the left side of my bubble bucket that have undergone stress are starting to come back really nicely but its mainly the huge one that i grew in rockwool and then planted later that is really growing huge. i just hope its a female. should the big one be trimmed? it kinda looks like its getting in the way of the middle plant, the smallest one. i could probably read how to trim the plants but it would be cool if someone just told me here. i cant wait til christmas, thats when these babies will be ready if everything goes smoothly :D

turtle420
09-29-2005, 05:32 PM
Your plants look great. But the most impressive part, you said it best:


i cant wait til christmas, thats when these babies will be ready if everything goes smoothly

Cheesybeast
09-30-2005, 09:35 AM
If you need to raise humidity, i suggest you try puttin a pot or cup of water, at the side of your grow, the water with evaporated and therefore raise humidiy, i learn alot bein an air con engineer...

Anastrophy
10-01-2005, 03:55 PM
thanks for the comments, check out what im smokin right now. i might have root problems, i gotta check...but yeah i think there is algae in the grow tank and ive got 5 gallons on ice so as to keep this water from getting warm anymore. im gonna totally clean the airstones and shit i hope it will be cool.

Anastrophy
10-02-2005, 03:35 PM
damnit, i ran into more problems. last week and the week before i was using about 4-5 gallons of water, and last weeks mix was with the foxfarm grow big and big bloom with some hygrozime mixed in and as you all saw my plants were doing really good. foxfarm has a weekly schedule and you always change up the nutes every week. on the schedule week one and two were what i was using, now week three said use just the grow big. the hygrozime is something i throw in there to help protect against algae and boost the roots. i also had 3 little sample packets of liquid karma around and this week i threw in 5 gallons of water mixed in with 75ml of grow big and 60ml of hygrozime and the 3 sample packets of liquid karma. i ph balanced it and left it alone. an hour later, the ph was like 1.0 or something and the plants looked like they had nute burn on them and i instantly rebalanced the ph and left them alone for another hour. the next hour, they looked still kinda crappy so we took out a gallon of nute water and replaced it with a gallon of regular purified water and ph balanced it again. before i changed the water there was algae growth all over the airstones and the inside of the bucket and i scrubbed it all out with just a TINY bit of bleach. anyway, i think the weakest plant in the middle had root rot cuz the roots arent even half the size as the bigger ones. i think this plant is shocked as hell, and when i did change the nutes yesterday there was prolly only 1-2 gallons in there and the small plant couldnt reach the water and it wilted up but it is coming back. anyway, i know theres a lot of trial and error in this but did taking out the big bloom nutes fuck it up? i was just going by the weekly schedule and the plants freaked. i of course, have more pics, and a close up of a leaf so you all can see what exactly is diseasing my babies, if not nute burn. i hope they're gonna be okay :confused: