"THE SEALED ROOM" 3lbs A LIGHT

[Tranoble]

THE SEALED ROOM

Listen im not very good at writing this stuff down. You can post reply's with any specific questions and I will answer them best I can. My pictures of my room are 1 week from cutting down.

Based On A 4 Light Room. Pictures are of a 8 Light Room.

I start by sealing my room as best I can. From there I start by building a 8ft by 8ft box with 2x6.
Then I screw 2 sheets of OSB 4x8 sheets to the bottom (sort of like a water bed box).
I line the inside with polly making sure not to get any staples on the inside of the beds.
I put 4 bags of Shunshine #4 Mix into the bed making sure to break up all clumps.
Then I hang 4 HPS bulbs evenly over the bed.
I use a Blu-Ox Co2 generator (has a glow plug instead of pilot light).
The Co2 generator is pluged into a CDMC-7 Co2 controller. The CDMC-7 controlles how much Co2 is in the room.
I then use a Thermoplus A/C to cool my room.
If the grow op is small you can use a Heat Exchanger (Heat Exchanger uses alot of water).
If the Grow Op is bigger than 8-1000w lights I use a Charcoal Filter to kill the smell. The Charcoal Filter just curculates in the room.
I use a 40 pint Dehumidifier to controll my humidity levels. This is hung from the sealing, draining either into a drain or into a 5 gal bucket that is empted every day.
The resovior Is a 55 gal plastic drum. For the feeding schedual I use. Here is a link... http://www.advancednutrients.com/nutcalc3public/

You can use all the item listed but personaly I think its a waste of money.The items I use are:

-Micro
-Grow
-Bloom
-Mothers Earth Tea (Bloom)
-B-52 (B1, Vitamax)
-Carboload (Powder)
-Voodoo Juice
-Big Bud (Powder)
-Overdrive
-Final Phase (Flush Solution)

*Dont forget too enter the size of your resivour and add a week to the schedual.

To feed my plants I use a sump pump followed by a garden hose and a watering wand.

Here are some links to pictures and info to some items used here:

Blu-Ox Co2 Generator
http://www.thegrowroom.com/environ2.html#BluOx

CDMC-7 Co2 Controller
http://www.greenair.com/cdmc.htm

Thermoplus A/C
http://www.thermoplus.com/dev/html_en/page_2_001.asp

[Fattie]

Goddamn dude you are awesome that is like my dream come true lol good work.

[MeatRulz]

oops that was me posting on bros acount on accident.

[HARDDON]

Holy shit :)

How did you get the canopy to be so even...?

These must all be the same strains, yes?

fricking can I have your address so I can come visit??????

I would love to smell that place :)

man that is just so awesum.......thanks for posting and sharing that.

[Tranoble]

Yes it's all the same strain. It's called Tranoble. There are 200 clones there. I paid $6 a piece for them. Now I just started doing my own clones. I moved out to the sticks and I had to drive 4.5 hrs to get those. Fuck that.

I think the hoods I use really help on keeping the canopy all the same size. The hoods are LR 1000's.

[itsgotime]

Beatiful....I must say...!

[Garden Knowm]

FANTASTIC - 4 stars...

[Tranoble]

These are in 3 days of Veg. Ill drop the lights and flip them into Bud in about 2 days. After 10 days of Bud ill strip off the bottom 7-8 branches.

Ill post pics every week.

The strain in these pics is Triple X. A friend gave me cuts and I cloned them. First time cloning. Didn't lose a 1. Saved me $1440 since I usually buy my clones.

[Tranoble]

These plants are in Day 4 of Veg.

What a difference in 1 day.

I think it's cause I spray them with Growth Excel every day right when the lights come on.

[florida boy 3]

very very nice, five stars *****

[Tranoble]

Day 5 of Veg.

[HARDDON]

Hey can you post pics so they enlarge?

Take a higher resolution and dont manipulate before posting...

I want to see these up close soooooo bad.

Why are you stripping the lower leaves off?

[Tranoble]

Hey can you post pics so they enlarge?

Take a higher resolution and dont manipulate before posting...

I want to see these up close soooooo bad.

Why are you stripping the lower leaves off?

How do I post pics so they can enlarge?

I don't know much about digital camaras. I dont know how to take pics at higher resolution.

I strip the bottom 7-8 branches off at 10 days into Bud. They are so close together that the bottom stuff dosnt get much light. It's allso easier to water.

[Tranoble]

Day 1 of Bud.

I just put the timers on 12/12.

[stickygreenlightsabr]

Hmm, well first of all, what kind of digital camera do you have?

I really wanna see higher resolution pictures as well, my mouth is salivating in anticipation.

[Tranoble]

My digital camera is JVC, 3.3 Mega Pixels.

The model # is GC-QX3HD.

[Garden Knowm]

6 stars


LOL

-------- don't make me go 7!!!!!!! grrrrrr

Can you drop me an e-mail [email protected]

IMPRESSIVE..

Is that a giant custom wood box...? all the roots just cohabitate together?

[Tranoble]

Thanks for the 6 Stars Garden Knowm.

The room is a double garage. I have split it down the middle. I have another 6 lights that I just set up on the other side.

The roots bind together like crazy. When I replace my dirt after every show. I cut the dirt into squares. The dirt is stuck together from all the roots.

I think I have fixed my picture quality in my camera. It was set to Fine. I changed it to Uncompressed.

My frame is set to 2032x1536. I have been down sizing the pics to half the size before I up load them to the post. Otherwise It takes a long time. I have dial-up out here in the sticks. I know it sucks!

If anyone could tell me how to set my settings a little better on my Camera that would be so helpfull.

[HARDDON]

Dial up does suck.

Because you are downsizing them prior to uploading them is why we are not able to enlarge.

[Tranoble]

Sorry guys. I wont down size the pics any more.

[stickygreenlightsabr]

Tranoble - looks like I found the manual to your camera online

http://www.msg.ucsf.edu/local/XRayLab/PhotoCrystal/JVC_Camera/manual.pdf

Happy hunting :)

[Jack Diamonds]

Man that is soooooo pretty.... :p

[Garden Knowm]

this thread is like f-ing porn.. can't stay away from it!!!!!!!

[kuulbns]

Oh My Gawd!! Nice job!!! How deep is the soil you plant in? looks like an excellant setup.

[Tranoble]

Oh My Gawd!! Nice job!!! How deep is the soil you plant in? looks like an excellant setup.

The table sides are built out of 2x6. The dirt is about 5 inches deep.

[Zandor]

What spacing are you using? How far apart are the plants from each other? How tall do you grow them?

[Garden Knowm]

only 5 inches...!!!!

What DA?

amzing

[Tranoble]

What spacing are you using? How far apart are the plants from each other? How tall do you grow them?

The space under 1 light is 3.75ftx3.75ft. I put 30 plants and hang 1 light over that place. I space them evenly. I Veg my clones for about 3-4 days depending how healthy they are. They will be about 2.5ft-3ft when they are done.

[Tranoble]

only 5 inches...!!!!

What DA?

amzing

You should see how the roots are all bind together when I replace my dirt. I cut the dirt into squares then remove it.

[Zandor]

We did that style once for about a year but in Hydro. 4x4 trays full of grow rocks 40-50 plants each tray. The roots were all tangled together but held tight to the end. Yield was fine but clean up was a bitch.

Dirt farming is to slow for me. I assume you use an sulfer pot then to keep the mold down? Are you also using CO² to speed things up? How is the air flow for the middle plants?

Well good luck you have some work ahead of you when you harvest.

[HARDDON]

Well good luck you have some work ahead of you when you harvest.


Might HARD ON volunteer the services of an experience manicurist and sampler :)

[Garden Knowm]

yeah, what he said..

[Tranoble]

I have 3 Big Red Shredders. Doesnt take long at all. I hire 4 girls, they do it all.

[HARDDON]

You are using strictly HPS? 4 bulbs?

What wattage may I ask? 1K each?

And you clone them as well under the HPS?

[Tranoble]

You are using strictly HPS? 4 bulbs?

What wattage may I ask? 1K each?

And you clone them as well under the HPS?

I am using strictly 1000w Hps.

I have 8 lights in one room and will be starting a 6 light room in 2 weeks.

I used to buy my clones. I just started doing my own clones. They are done under flourescents.

[stickygreenlightsabr]

Hahaha, I want to hire 4 girls too... but for different reasons...

[Garden Knowm]

your fucking KILLING MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE... LOL

[kimchibanana]

no updates?

[Tranoble]

Day 1 Of Bud


25 Gal Res

Micro 100ml
Grow 50ml
Bloom 200ml

Vita Max 240ml

[Garden Knowm]

WHat if your pictures were as good as your grow room?

....hahaha LOLOLOL

you could get a job at HIGH TIMES!!!!

just busting your balls TRAN !!! : )

[HARDDON]

Good lord man that grow ought to be illegal its so sweet.

You have certainy got your growing shit organized.

One day I too will have a room like this :)

[Tranoble]

I know my pictures are crap. LOL

I didnt take Photagraphy in highschool.

I took Track and Field.

I spent most of my time by the track on the field smoking weed.

[Garden Knowm]

hahahahahah

[HARDDON]

Fuck....

Such an awesum grow and such a shitty picture taker :)

How about I become your personal photographer? :)

[Tranoble]

Fuck....

Such an awesum grow and such a shitty picture taker :)

How about I become your personal photographer? :)

I tell you what. I will think of you when I smoke the first joint from this crop.

[Garden Knowm]

HD - you obviously didn't see the line... I applied for the job already.. :D :cool: :D :cool:

[Tranoble]

Here you go guys.

Day 6 of Bud.

Can see buds allready.

[turtle420]

I make a general vote for the people here @ Cannabis.com putting some $ together and buying Tran a new camera... I think he's using the prototype Edison made...

[Tranoble]

I make a general vote for the people here @ Cannabis.com putting some $ together and buying Tran a new camera... I think he's using the prototype Edison made...

It's not the carmera. I paid $800 for this camera. I have to resize the pics so I can post them. I live in the sticks and only have dial-up. It takes way to long to up load the pictures if I dont resize them. Sorry about the quality. If you have any suggestions on a better way to up load the pictures im listening.

[HARDDON]

If you have any suggestions on a better way to up load the pictures im listening.

DIRECTWAY from DTV :)

No cable needed...fast uploads and downloads.

All you need is the dish :)

[Tranoble]

DIRECTWAY from DTV :)

No cable needed...fast uploads and downloads.

All you need is the dish :)

No Direct TV in Canada.

Try Again.

[HARDDON]

OH but there is :)

All you need is someone in the states who will sub for you. :)

Used to spend years hacking those fuckers :)

[Tranoble]

If I knew someone in the US I would be selling them my weed. I wouldnt be asking them to hook me up with satellite so I could download faster.

Try Again.

[thechronic]

Hello Tranoble well looks like you hit the boards with a blow Welcome.
It looks like your having a problem with posting the pictures on the board.
If you can email them to me i might be able to fix that for you here is my email,
[email protected]
have fun growing
-Thechronic

[Tranoble]

How will that help me up load my pictures faster?

Please explain.

[Da1KrayzieThug]

Haha I think he wants it so that we can at least see them. Not faster. :D

[HARDDON]

Yea but if he's gonna send them over dial up to anyone, why not just do it to here? :D

[turtle420]

Ok, new solution:

Tran, let's set up a WiFi link from you to the nearest broadband point... you'll probably be able to trade broadband with some of your buds...

Ok ok... enough... enough fucking around already. Tran, keep up the small pics! Better than nothing! And the pictures do help... Sorry for thrashing your camera dude, my bad.



Ooooor... you could buy an 512MB memory card... fill it up with pictures, mail it... somebody uploads.... Never mind....

[Tranoble]

Hey Harddon.

Lets see some pics of your grow. I would love to see how your grow is doing.

[HARDDON]

I post in the INDOOR GROWING section.

I have my two latest grows there......SOG and LST.

But they look nothing like yours so please, do not laugh.

My claim to fame was a 20" baseball bat kola named Cunt and this massive set of 4 15" buds named Whore :)

These next two are just learning experiences so I can learn all the ways of tomato growth and then write a book :)

[HARDDON]

Heres a couple of pics of my last good grow :)

[Da1KrayzieThug]

Jesus Christ HARDDON, do you really gotta pull your shirt to hide that belly of yours? :D
I wanna try some Whore or some Cunt. I'm walking there right now. Be ready for me in abooouttt...a month? K I'm leavin now I'll see you in late October :D

[HARDDON]

Fuck no I dont have a big belly :)

Well not that big....

Thats just MB spreading his rumors :)

[SamoanLawyer]

Hey tranoble,

In my best 'Quake3' voice "IMPRESSIVE", and dare I say it even though its on a smaller scale more impressive than *looks over his shoulder* Reaper, in consistancy and aesthetics, you are an artist bro!

I saw your grow on OG and saw all those Wankers jumping on you, which is why I'll never post there again, OG might good for pot porn, but the 'sheep' are slowing starting to rule those boards, its turning into the Pot 4th Reich over there, you cant even say tits.

Keep them pics comin of your new grow cuzz, may the force be with you!

[SamoanLawyer]

oh and tranoble, if youre still having trouble with pics, heres some help, when you upload the pics to your comp in high rez from your cam, just resize them to 640x480 or 800x600 pixels in your photoeditor, I use photoshop and all you do is right click the pics title bar, go to image size then a box comes up saying the dimensions, just change dimensions there then save , this will size it nicely for viewing on here.

[Tranoble]

I hear ya about OG.

I have Presto! Mr. Photo 1.6. Would this work for what you are saying?

[Tranoble]

I messed around and I think I figured it out. Ill post some new pics in a bit.

[SamoanLawyer]

yeh bro, just find anywhere in that program where to change image dimensions in pixels say 800 x 600 , if you cant do it in that program, I suggest you d/l bearshare or some other peer to peer network client and d/l photoshop, bearshare is good coz you can d/l anything form music to porn to games , movies and programs, I get all shit from there to try out and shit, and Im on dial up too


;)

[Tranoble]

I think I got it figured out. Thanks alot.

I dont download much cause it takes me so long with dial-up.

[Gizmo]

What you hoping is going to be there, About 40kilo?

[Tranoble]

Hoping for 24lb.

[Tranoble]

Day 9 of Bud.

Are these Pictures better?

[Garden Knowm]

yeah but not good enough!!!!


hahahaha

[Garden Knowm]

send me your address, I'll come over and take some pics...
: )










....and some cuttings!!!!

[Tranoble]

LOL

[HARDDON]

Man its a bummer we cant see those pics larger...

ahem....couch...ahem.... :) :) :)

[Gizmo]

Might sound a little paranoid,

In the UK such a large growroom would make a large target for little scrots who want to tax your weed off you, Have u kept the grow room fairly low-key? And how are u keep heat emissions off the police camera that flies overhead every now and then in the UK large growrooms such as that are kept underground, I know a grower who uses an X World War 2 bunker

[Tranoble]

Listen I would never let anyone tax me for having a weed set up. They have tryed before. I told them to go fuck themselves. The cops who fly over dont fly at night. Fuck them too.

[Joel]

Hooray for new user input!








.......Totally gay comment, if youre going to get TAXED for growing weed, you may as well go into the copshop and say hey listen, I grow pot so arrest me or tax me.

What in the hell do you think theyd do??
Question for ya gizmo.

[Tranoble]

I dont think hes talking about the cops taxing you Joel. I think hes talking about bikers or something.

[IrieInSocal]

lol WOW you guys are fucking brilliant! dumbass

[Joel]

Alright well first of all thank you for clearing that up for me.

Second of all, why in the fuck would bikers know about your grow in the UK if you dont even have friends or connections there. They wouldnt know shit, therefore TAXFREE.

[Garden Knowm]

easy... easy.. deep breath everybody... play nice... don't make zandor come in here and kick some ass : )

NOW - how about some more pics!!!!!!!

[HARDDON]

HARDDON <-------------------------- Just sitting enjoying from ringside :)

[Tranoble]

In the Uk it would be the IRA you would have to worrie about.

I t would be real easy for them to find out if you were selling in big numbers.

My cousin lives in Ireland and tells me that the IRA does this all the time.

[HARDDON]

Tran....

do you need a nurse?

a caretaker?

a bellman?

A chef?

anhything that requires no brains and required me to be stoned whilst I assist in some fashion?

[Garden Knowm]

A NURSE . hahahahaha

[Tranoble]

Day 15 Bud.

[Garden Knowm]

I was just thinking about YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
you smell GOOD

[user56]

you set up is awesome looking. And 3LB per light with 8 lights wow nice.
I'm not familiar with hydrponics what I see doesn't look like hydroponic but you give a site to look at for the nutrients as for hydro's?
Could I do this same set up without Hydroponics? Maybe a little deeper soil?

You say the hoods are lR 1000's so what kind is that what brand name and model# oh I guess LR 1000?

[Melton420]

WOW im stunned

[Garden Knowm]

don't be it is just good photoshop work....??????


LOL

[Joel]

Haha garden.

Tranoble, They tax you for growing and you havnt sold any pot? I dont know how they would know lol.

If you did sell pot then I would understand, if your selling this pot, I would understand, but if you havent sold anypot and just grew it, I dont understand.

[Tranoble]

you set up is awesome looking. And 3LB per light with 8 lights wow nice.
I'm not familiar with hydrponics what I see doesn't look like hydroponic but you give a site to look at for the nutrients as for hydro's?
Could I do this same set up without Hydroponics? Maybe a little deeper soil?

You say the hoods are lR 1000's so what kind is that what brand name and model# oh I guess LR 1000?

The link I gave has a feeding schedual for both hydro and soil. Go back there and take a closer look.

The shades I use are LR 1000.

[Tranoble]

Haha garden.

Tranoble, They tax you for growing and you havnt sold any pot? I dont know how they would know lol.

If you did sell pot then I would understand, if your selling this pot, I would understand, but if you havent sold anypot and just grew it, I dont understand.

This might help you understand a little better. If you were growing just for personal then why would anyone wanna tax you. You would only get taxed if you were making lots of money. Cause they know you have lots of money. Someone who grows alot o weed has to get rid of it some where. Its only a madder of time for people to hear about all the money your making. Why try to tax someone that doesnt have alot of money?

Do you understand now.

It's just a way for dirt bag bikers or thugs to muscle someone they know they can. They know your not gonna run to the cops.

[Garden Knowm]

I'm ready...

[OXYPOTGROWER]

sweet grow man !!! "Taxed" is slang for stealing, over here in the UK :D

[turtle420]

"Taxed" is slang for stealing, over here in the UK :D


This changes the meaning of 34% of this post...

[Starseed]

Nice grow tran, very impressed.

[user56]

The link I gave has a feeding schedual for both hydro and soil. Go back there and take a closer look.

The shades I use are LR 1000.

I have tried to find the LR 1000 everywhere I could think of and still haven't found anything about them. Can you tell me where you saw them and bought them?

As for the feeding schedule it's a foreign language to me I don't understand it. Maybe after I have done this for awhile with the use of some nuturient it will come more clear to me.

[Tranoble]

I bought the LR 1000 in Canada. They have a life time warrenty. They are the by far the best shader you can buy. If you live in Canada i can point you in the right direction. I know they are made in the U.S.

[Garden Knowm]

Tranoble... did you hear me....

here let me say it again louder...


I AM READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


please

[Tranoble]

I will post new pics later today.

[Garden Knowm]

i saw you on overgrow... i am not aloud over there : (

lol

[Tranoble]

Day 24 of Bud.

[HUGEBUDS]

where in canada?

[Garden Knowm]

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Garden Knowm]

photoshop color adjust- better ?

[user56]

I bought the LR 1000 in Canada. They have a life time warrenty. They are the by far the best shader you can buy. If you live in Canada i can point you in the right direction. I know they are made in the U.S.

I do live in the US but we can buy from Canada. Can you give me the name of the company email address or phone #? I would like to check them out. Your girls are looking Great. Thanks Man

[tstone1776]

Tranoble i just read through this thread.

Is your garage heated? If not how do you maintain temp in the winter? Lights keep it warm?

Ciao

[tstone1776]

By the way sweet grow. I aspire to your heights. ;)

[Tranoble]

I do live in the US but we can buy from Canada. Can you give me the name of the company email address or phone #? I would like to check them out. Your girls are looking Great. Thanks Man

I bought them at Garden Super Center in Abbotsford, British Columbia. The Garden Super Center is owned by Advanced Nutrience. Try contacting AN threw there website.

[Tranoble]

Tranoble i just read through this thread.

Is your garage heated? If not how do you maintain temp in the winter? Lights keep it warm?

Ciao

My garage is split in 2. 6 light room on 1 side and 8 light room on the other. They keep each other warm in the winter.

[Garden Knowm]

one is on during the day.. one at night ?
14 lights?
1000 watts each...?
fuck me

[user56]

I bought them at Garden Super Center in Abbotsford, British Columbia. The Garden Super Center is owned by Advanced Nutrience. Try contacting AN threw there website.


OK I need more info there isn't a Garden Super Center in Abbotsford or Advanced Nutrience any where in British Columbia phone directory or a web site titled as such. Can you give me their website?

You really have 14 1000W lights? Wow !! What is your electric bill like or do you run generators?

[user56]

I did find advancednutiencedirect.com but they don't have any lights just nutriences looks like a great place for that and they are based in the US not Canada so do you have the name or website for the NR 1000?

[Tranoble]

I did find advancednutiencedirect.com but they don't have any lights just nutriences looks like a great place for that and they are based in the US not Canada so do you have the name or website for the NR 1000?

AN is based in Canada. Stores in the US are supplied from AN in Canada. I know this cause I worked there for 4 years. Canadian Soiless is a company that owns AN and the Garden Super Store where I bought the LR 1000's. Contact AN and ask them where you can buy the LR 1000's. They will give info on where to buy them in the US.

Good Luck.

[primster]

thats quite a fucking grow you have going !!! amen

[limmit]

Great grow....

Tranoble how do you build up your C02 levels? What levels do you use?

I am also interested in the Blu-ox generator, how many burners do you have and what is the capacity of the exhaust fan you have connected to the generator?

What is the RH you try to keep when using the C02.

[cnd411]

THE SEALED ROOM

Listen im not very good at writing this stuff down. You can post reply's with any specific questions and I will answer them best I can. My pictures of my room are 1 week from cutting down.

Based On A 4 Light Room. Pictures are of a 8 Light Room.

I start by sealing my room as best I can. From there I start by building a 8ft by 8ft box with 2x6.
Then I screw 2 sheets of OSB 4x8 sheets to the bottom (sort of like a water bed box).
I line the inside with polly making sure not to get any staples on the inside of the beds.
I put 4 bags of Shunshine #4 Mix into the bed making sure to break up all clumps.

Nice set up :thumbsup:
What is OSB ? Are there drain holes in your growing bed ? How did you water ? Have a good day.

[Easy Roller]

yeh 'tax' is slang man.that is the best grow ive seen in a long time..those 4 chicks who do your lawn...be carefull of idle mouths man!! best o luck

[tadaa]

No offense but if I had a grow that size I would never post it on a website. Feds could find out where you live from your ip address faster than you could get rid of all that. Also, I had a friend that was turned in by his electric company because he was using 10,000 watts of electricity continuously, it was enough to obtain a warrant and he got busted. I would never use that much power in my house, it becomes pretty obvious at that point. Anyways, it's a nice grow but be careful.

[john maconha bullet]

how much $$ for eletricity?

[MaryjaneMenehune]

If I knew someone in the US I would be selling them my weed. I wouldnt be asking them to hook me up with satellite so I could download faster.

Try Again.
Um, I'll volunteer... I'll just boat it across the great lakes...
if i only i could grow like you man. [email protected]

[greenmonster]

r u on the mains or do u have generators for that little setup?? 14000 watts of light + all the other stuff must drain ur bill something cronic.... im interested to know how the fuck you get away with it? that must be like having 70 fridges in your house on 24/7....
anyway gooooooood work.....
3 pounds a light, whats that in english??? 1.4 kilos? shit man u got that gold plated swimming pool yet? kilo of fine skunk here is roughly $5000 (£3300) and upwards. do the maths! 14x5x4=growler!!!

[J DOG 6000]

I believe the strain is spelled Chernoble.
Like the Russian Toxic waste city.:thumbsup:

[john maconha bullet]

how much $ for eletricity?thank you john

[fckinhell]

hi,, im very interested in how you run all that,, generator? if so can you point me in the right direction to get a good generator? or any body else that reads this this and you know,, im after a deisel 2000watts or higher or converted generator that runs on lpg,, thanx nice crop,,

[britewire]

Very decent growroom you got there... Rather see someone grow a decent batch on soil than all that shit on DWC.. What are your experiances with the co2 injection? I´m using some co2 tabs now but I really don´t notice the differance..

[jakenthegentiles]

i look at thease pics and i cum i cant even afford 1 light let alone 14 musta taken u a wile to save up allthat money

[thechronic]

Some one please a towel?

[Garden Knowm]

No offense but if I had a grow that size I would never post it on a website. Feds could find out where you live from your ip address faster than you could get rid of all that. Also, I had a friend that was turned in by his electric company because he was using 10,000 watts of electricity continuously, it was enough to obtain a warrant and he got busted. I would never use that much power in my house, it becomes pretty obvious at that point. Anyways, it's a nice grow but be careful.


where did your friend live?

[Garden Knowm]

Some one please a towel?


aahahahahahahaha

LOL
NICE


*knowm hands CHRONIC his ex-girlfriend*

just wipe it off on her...

LOVE is the answer
yes
LOVE

[FERMENTATION]

Update? Beautiful, btw. Oh and yeah if you need any help. I'm willing o be blindfolded before being brought in. ;)

[Tranoble]

IMMMMMMMMMMMM BACKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!

[Trivium]

IMMMMMMMMMMMM BACKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!

wb mate. Btw , what happend?:confused:

[Tranoble]

tadaa really made me think about how safe it really is posting my pics on this site.

[kushman45]

I remember you form OG your grow is awsome. So how is your sealed room doing. Do you hang at any other sites with your grows. Be safe and be cool...........:)

[Tranoble]

I guess OG is gone now I cant seem to get on there anymore. This is the only other forum I know of. My sealed room is doing great. I am at day 2 of bud. I might put some pics up when they get some serious colas on them.

[kushman45]

Yep OG is gone. would love to see more pics. Do you still use advance nutes have you ever checked out there grow forum.......

[Tranoble]

Yes I still use Advanced Nutes. I used to work for them. I get my nutes pretty cheap. I havent checked out the forum in a while Ill check it out. Thanks.

[kushman45]

Cool if you need a link let me know. There are couple guys over there growing in beds like you. Look for Big Papa's threads his shit rocks like your's.

[surreyB.C.]

looks good man but i highly doubt your pullin 3 pounds per light outta soil ive done and used all that stuff you have listed before with excellent results but still nowhere near 3 per so i highly doubt that but still it looks like you are doing very good but seriously ppl its really nothin special just dont lie to ppl and say 3 per in soil i dont want to argue about im sure it may be possible i just really doubt your doin it.

[Trivium]

looks good man but i highly doubt your pullin 3 pounds per light outta soil ive done and used all that stuff you have listed before with excellent results but still nowhere near 3 per so i highly doubt that but still it looks like you are doing very good but seriously ppl its really nothin special just dont lie to ppl and say 3 per in soil i dont want to argue about im sure it may be possible i just really doubt your doin it.

Im not 100% sure of this, but surrey knows his shit.

[Bachelorpads]

Wow, i can't imagine trying to do all that in soil. Props to you as i have never seen a soil grow that is that uniform. Nothing even close. That is the most advanced soil grow i have ever seen.

I do the same basic principle but with hydro and A LOT less plants (granted my setup cost thousands of dollars). It is all automated because I hate to do labor.

Man, that is just stupifying for a soil grow. AMAZING.

[Tranoble]

looks good man but i highly doubt your pullin 3 pounds per light outta soil ive done and used all that stuff you have listed before with excellent results but still nowhere near 3 per so i highly doubt that but still it looks like you are doing very good but seriously ppl its really nothin special just dont lie to ppl and say 3 per in soil i dont want to argue about im sure it may be possible i just really doubt your doin it.

Are you trying to get your posts up or something? I use the sealed room meathod. Do you know what that is? Obv not. I pull 35 to 42 lbs off of 14 lights every time. If you dont think 3 lbs a light isnt possible in dirt you have no clue. Check around on this site and others im not the only one.

Good Luck with your growing skills. Are you choked at how shitty you are doing. Why else would you take time to call me a lier?

[Zandor]

Are you trying to get your posts up or something? I use the sealed room meathod. Do you know what that is? Obv not. I pull 35 to 42 lbs off of 14 lights every time. If you dont think 3 lbs a light isnt possible in dirt you have no clue. Check around on this site and others im not the only one.

Good Luck with your growing skills. Are you choked at how shitty you are doing. Why else would you take time to call me a lier?

There is no reason to be rude BC was respectful and has a rite to question with out being flamed.

I guess you don't know surreyBC look in the gallery for some of his harvest picks. He does grow it right too. Not saying you don't just I know how good surreyBC grows. It's all quality from him, and he does grow in dirt too.

3 pounds per light is a little high imo too but anything is possible. Hell growing KBS you can average 3 pounds per plant but the setup is big bucks and the average grower could not afford to grow that style or even have the necessary skills to grow like that either. In dirt it does take longer to grow trees but yes you can do it. Just with hydro you can get one or two extra grows a year over dirt.

This is a pic of a kbs plant where the yield was over 3.5 pounds dry from one plant.

[Mr. Ganja]

There is no reason to be rude BC was respectful and has a rite to question with out being flamed.

I guess you don't know surreyBC look in the gallery for some of his harvest picks. He does grow it right too. Not saying you don't just I know how good surreyBC grows. It's all quality from him, and he does grow in dirt too.

3 pounds per light is a little high imo too but anything is possible. Hell growing KBS you can average 3 pounds per plant but the setup is big bucks and the average grower could not afford to grow that style or even have the necessary skills to grow like that either. In dirt it does take longer to grow trees but yes you can do it. Just with hydro you can get one or two extra grows a year over dirt.

This is a pic of a kbs plant where the yield was over 3.5 pounds dry from one plant.


I'm sorry for asking, but can you briefly explain this "KBS" setup? 3.5 pounds from one plant indoors is just insane. The biggest I've seen was an outdoor plant in my country of Bangladesh and it yielded close to one kilo.

[OzzyOz]

Tranoble
really good growing skills you have, i really like the growroom.
The setup is really pro

Nice to see some OG'ers here... you guys are bringing a gripload of pics and knowledge into this site :-)

Good stuff
your grow's awesome man, keep it up

[SmokinRandy420]

Yeah Overgrow is gone.....and this is what they confiscated...

[Zandor]

I'm sorry for asking, but can you briefly explain this "KBS" setup? 3.5 pounds from one plant indoors is just insane. The biggest I've seen was an outdoor plant in my country of Bangladesh and it yielded close to one kilo.

It's very expensive to build and operate but it's worth the effort if you have the money and skill. You control everything to exact portions, Hi humidity and total control for the proper cycle in the plants life, enhanced CO², perfect temperature control, a chiller for the res to keep the perfect temp to hold in more oxygen in the water. A shit load of light. and lots of room for them to grow. Your net pot is a 5-gallon bucket filled with lava rocks or a combo of other things to hole the large plants. You veg them for about 45-50 days then flower like normal. Just make sure you have chicken wire on the ceiling to tie the branches to they get heavy and snap easy.

That is the short version.

Tranoble - has a very nice looking and quality looking grow. Very impressive Tranoble?:thumbsup:

[iStayblunted]

you got a nice field of herbs..good job

[Garden Knowm]

Welcome back tranoble!!

pictures... more pictures!

: )

[gr0ingCrack]

fricking can I have your address so I can come visit??????
.
My thoughts exactly if your in the us let me know ill buy some ;)

[bobbyhardcore]

tranoble could you tell me what you the spray is you use every time you turn the lights on? Growth Excel? Whats it do and where you get it from ? I'm very impressed with your grow, glad to see such a healthy grow and glad to see plants that are being cared for so well. Keep it up dude.

[Tranoble]

Growth Excel is the same as Growth Plus just cheaper. It's a seaweed extract. I spray it every day right when my lights come on. When I first plant my babies I give them a spray and the next day when i spray again i notice there is twice as many leaves. The stuff works excellent.

[Weed4Life]

Damn Tranoble, that is every mans dream field. How far north into Canada are you? I live in South Dakota which is about 7-9 hours away from Canada. Lets just say you sold sum to me how much per pound? I am closet growing and I can control the environment like I want so I am playing with sum swag bagseed till I move so I can build a proper grow box that will be using 2 400w hps'. I will be vegging the mother under 150 hps and clones will be under CFL's.

[Tranoble]

This stuff sells for about $2300 lb.

[grow4fun]

Hi Tranoble, nice-looking grow(s). How do you seal your room? Do you mean just applying silicone caulk wherever two walls/edges meet?
Also do you use CO2, and why do you use Growth Excel at lights-on (usually people foliar when the lights are about to go off, so the plants stay wet longer and won't burn from the lights). Did you say you apply it twice a day?

thanx

[Garden Knowm]

PICTURES!!!!!!

and an invitation.. please

: )

[Tranoble]

I just seal my room as best I can with poly and tuck tape. No silicone. Yes I use Co2. I use a 8 burner blu-ox with a glow plug and a Co2 senson and controller. I foliar spray right when my lights come on. Not twice a day. I hope that answers your questions.


Hi Tranoble, nice-looking grow(s). How do you seal your room? Do you mean just applying silicone caulk wherever two walls/edges meet?
Also do you use CO2, and why do you use Growth Excel at lights-on (usually people foliar when the lights are about to go off, so the plants stay wet longer and won't burn from the lights). Did you say you apply it twice a day?

thanx

[Tranoble]

Sorry Garden Knowm. I am going to post pictures later when its ready to crop. It will be worth the wait. They are looking amazing.


PICTURES!!!!!!

and an invitation.. please

: )

[Weed4Life]

It must be sum killer bud for that price. Thats like $143 an ounce which out where I am from isnt too bad I guess. An ounce out here can go for $200 at highest. Most quarters are $40-50. I am from Cali and I just hate buying pot out here in S.D. thats why I decided to grow. I think I am progressing. I need to get my PH down when I get it in the mail soon.

[maryjannne]

things here in canada cost alot more, unless your from bc or maybe Ontario, on the prairies weed costs 50-60$ a quarter oz, or so Ive heard, is a real money crop there

[thebullfrog]

Hey tran, new to the forums, had about... 5...and a half questions for ya! LOL

(1)How much room do you give your seedlings in the soil bed ( how many inches from edge of the bed & between seedlings)?

I'm still doin as much reading as poss. while i collect my equip. but from what i've read, a 5 day veg. stage seems so short, (1.5) can u tell me about your reasoning for this?

On average...
(2) How tall are they b4 flipping to 12/12 (end of veg. stage)?
(3) How long do you flower for?
(4) What is your final harvest height?
(5) dry bud weight per plant?

[Markass]

I must say, that you definately know what you're doing. Beautiful weed :)

[MegaOctane12]

Your grow is fucking incredible man, a grow of that proportion would scare the shit out of me, think most people. You haven't answered this, and I wouldn't want to divulge more of my personal situation if I had a setup like that either but how do shift fourteen thousand watts, I'm sure alot of people would like to know your secret. I'm guessing you split the load and use some kind of generators and put the rest through the mains. Anyway man, respect to you.

[Tranoble]

Will be posting pictures next week. Stay tuned. LOL

[Tranoble]

I plant a clone about every 6 inches. Thats from each edge and each plant. A total of 120 plants per 4 lights. Some times I have extra clones and I just fit them in where ever i can. I flip them into bud when they are about 1 ft tall. If I wait longer than 5 days to flip them they just get way to tall. Right now I have allmost every plant staked cause they are all falling over. For how long I flower it depends on the strain. Right now with the strain im using it is 7 weeks but I could go 6 weeks no problem. The final height of the plants are about 3 ft tall. When I harvest I think each plant is about 40 to 45 grams on average. I hope that answers all ur questions. Good luck.


Hey tran, new to the forums, had about... 5...and a half questions for ya! LOL

(1)How much room do you give your seedlings in the soil bed ( how many inches from edge of the bed & between seedlings)?

I'm still doin as much reading as poss. while i collect my equip. but from what i've read, a 5 day veg. stage seems so short, (1.5) can u tell me about your reasoning for this?

On average...
(2) How tall are they b4 flipping to 12/12 (end of veg. stage)?
(3) How long do you flower for?
(4) What is your final harvest height?
(5) dry bud weight per plant?

[Tranoble]

VERY CAREFULLY. LOL.
If you read back aways ull see.


Your grow is fucking incredible man, a grow of that proportion would scare the shit out of me, think most people. You haven't answered this, and I wouldn't want to divulge more of my personal situation if I had a setup like that either but how do shift fourteen thousand watts, I'm sure alot of people would like to know your secret. I'm guessing you split the load and use some kind of generators and put the rest through the mains. Anyway man, respect to you.

[Ole Smokey]

hey tranoble, I'm really new to the indoor grow, don't mean to sound stupid but just wondering what an lr1000 is. I am trying to find the best set up possible and it looks like you know what your doing.

[Tranoble]

An Lr1000 is a shader. It is by far the best shader on the market for growing on tables. I know they are made in the US. From what i know they are hard to find but if you live in canada I can point you in the right direction.

[UnitedParcelSecrets]

... That's ... amazing.

[Tranoble]

Here they are. 6 weeks old today.

[kushman45]

Very Nice............:stoned:

[Racerx]

Wow...Wow...Wow... Let me just be the hundredth person or whatever to say... Wow. That is the exact! setup I want to do! Either one big room in the garage or split in 2. Gorgeous, if I can get to that quality over that many plants in the next year I will be hopping mad with joy.

One question. Do you know anything about tracks? I live in the city and I am somwhat concerned about running 4000watts because I am already a welder and have a lot of computers. Have you ever heard about using say... 2 1000watt lights on a track that move back and forth to simulate 4 1000 watt lights? Do you think a similar room like yours could take advantage of tracks to save electricity and expense while still getting nearly the same light?

[Tranoble]

I have never used tracks before so I cant give you any help on that. If you would like to use less power i suggest using an Equalizer PF2. Check out this site and read up on it. I use an Equalizer and I save about 1/3 of my bill.

http://www.growhere.com/equalizer/index.htm

Good Luck.


Wow...Wow...Wow... Let me just be the hundredth person or whatever to say... Wow. That is the exact! setup I want to do! Either one big room in the garage or split in 2. Gorgeous, if I can get to that quality over that many plants in the next year I will be hopping mad with joy.

One question. Do you know anything about tracks? I live in the city and I am somwhat concerned about running 4000watts because I am already a welder and have a lot of computers. Have you ever heard about using say... 2 1000watt lights on a track that move back and forth to simulate 4 1000 watt lights? Do you think a similar room like yours could take advantage of tracks to save electricity and expense while still getting nearly the same light?

[thebullfrog]

Then I screw 2 sheets of OSB 4x8 sheets to the bottom (sort of like a water bed box).
I line the inside with polly making sure not to get any staples on the inside of the beds.


What is OSB and where can it be found? What is 'polly' and how do you staple it to the box?

[Tranoble]

OSB is a type of ply wood made from compressed wood chips. You could use any 3/8 ply wood. OSB is cheapest. Polly is black and white plastic. Black on one side and white on the other. When your stapling the polly inside the table make sure the staples are on the out side of the table.If you have staples in the dirt they will rust. Rust isnt very good for your plants. Hope that answers you questions.



What is OSB and where can it be found? What is 'polly' and how do you staple it to the box?

[jaysmoke]

hey dude really enjoying the show.. Man you are way ahead of your time.. people are just now realizing the benefits of sealed rooms and youve been doing it for a minute. I remember the first time i visited this page, and it was all doubts, i even remember a page on OG discussing your practices, and people were straight h8ing on your style and wouldnt believe 3ps a lights.

anywho, juss got a couple questions. you say you put 30 plants in a 3.75 X 3.75 space under 1 light. How do u get 30 plants? do u have 6 rows of 5 plants? if so why? 3.75 x 3.75 is a square .

also, can you tell me about your c02 levels and at what point do you turn the co2 off ? which week? what level do they peek at in which week?

also you say you trim at 10 days into flowering and you take of the bottom 7-8 brances, at any other point in the grow do you do any additional trimming? DO you get single colas only or do you still get some side branching?

THANKS ALOT BRO u are a great sourcce of inspiration.

[Racerx]

Hey Tramble, can you explain to me the specific reasons why you use the planter box? I re-read the thread and maybe I missed it. What are the advantages of this over packing pots together? More soil? More nutrients available because of more soil? Plants bind together so they are held more firmly? Soil doesnt need to be deep because roots can go horizontal more?

I am getting to the point where I need to buy the materials for my new setup. The fact that building a box seems actually cheaper then pots and would ease the watering...Im tempted to go this route.

Thanks for your help!!! (PS. Decided to just go with 4 stationary 1000watt for now and building up to more if I need to).

[Tranoble]

Yes that is correct 5 rows of 6. It all depends on the size of the room im using. Some times i build my tables 7ft x 7ft. Some times i build them 8ft x 8ft. It all depends what the width of my room is. So on a 7ft by 7ft table I would go with 10 rows of 12. With the 8ft table i would go 12 rows of 12. With the co2 levels I have my ppm on my co2 set to the same as my ppm in my food. Be sure that your room temp is not below 85. Co2 will work its best if the room temp is 85 and the ppm are the same as your food. I turn the co2 off for the last 10-14 days. I dont trim at all after taking off the bottom branches. I only pick up leaves that have fallen on the dirt. Yes you do get some side branches but mainly 1 huge bud and 4-5 side branch tops half the size. Good luck i hope this helps.



hey dude really enjoying the show.. Man you are way ahead of your time.. people are just now realizing the benefits of sealed rooms and youve been doing it for a minute. I remember the first time i visited this page, and it was all doubts, i even remember a page on OG discussing your practices, and people were straight h8ing on your style and wouldnt believe 3ps a lights.

anywho, juss got a couple questions. you say you put 30 plants in a 3.75 X 3.75 space under 1 light. How do u get 30 plants? do u have 6 rows of 5 plants? if so why? 3.75 x 3.75 is a square .

also, can you tell me about your c02 levels and at what point do you turn the co2 off ? which week? what level do they peek at in which week?

also you say you trim at 10 days into flowering and you take of the bottom 7-8 brances, at any other point in the grow do you do any additional trimming? DO you get single colas only or do you still get some side branching?

THANKS ALOT BRO u are a great sourcce of inspiration.

[Tranoble]

I think using the box method is alot easier. When I take my dirt out of the box I cut it in squares then remove the dirt in squares. The dirt is bound with roots like you wouldnt believe. I allso replace the dirt after every show. * I never reuse dirt *

Good luck on your room. Ill answer any more question if you like.




Hey Tramble, can you explain to me the specific reasons why you use the planter box? I re-read the thread and maybe I missed it. What are the advantages of this over packing pots together? More soil? More nutrients available because of more soil? Plants bind together so they are held more firmly? Soil doesnt need to be deep because roots can go horizontal more?

I am getting to the point where I need to buy the materials for my new setup. The fact that building a box seems actually cheaper then pots and would ease the watering...Im tempted to go this route.

Thanks for your help!!! (PS. Decided to just go with 4 stationary 1000watt for now and building up to more if I need to).

[jaysmoke]

hey dude thanks for the quick reply. Juss one more thing i dont understand and dont know if you covered it. How does the drainage work? is there any? the reason im asking is because it looks like the bed is on the floor.

[pmorris]

Hey Tranoble, I saw how you only mentioned you used 4 HPS lights. Do you use mh lights? I have a quick question, does it make a difference if you use hps for the full grow vs mh then hps ?

[thebullfrog]

Hey Tranoble, I saw how you only mentioned you used 4 HPS lights. Do you use mh lights? I have a quick question, does it make a difference if you use hps for the full grow vs mh then hps ?

I was in at my local shop and had a decent chat to get tips from experienced growers. I too have had a million very detailed questions clearly marking me as a newbie hahaha. But i askd him about the HPS/MH flipping and he said that the difference isnt that noticable to a new grower. He recommended using cheap HPS bulbs to help keep costs down, while learning, tuning, and optimizing yields through ways that WILL have a noticable difference, like temps, food, water, and a the signals of the plant itself.

I kno how easily it is to get overwhelmd with all the tech, and the details, and etc. But it really made me chill out about growing and worrying about all the many ways things can go wrong. I think as new growers, we want all the best equip. cuz we think that it'll help compensate for our lack of firsthand knowledge, but really you should keep it as cheap and as simple as possible cuz u're gonna b making the most mistakes in the beginning.

Buying a ferrari doesnt make u a good driver, so buy that junker and beat the crap out of it while you learn, then when you've gone as far as you can go with what you have, then upgrade to reap the true benefits!

jus my two cents =) cheers!

[Tranoble]

You are so right. But once you know what you are doing be sure to upgrade to decent equipment. You get what you pay for. If you go cheap you will get cheap results.


I was in at my local shop and had a decent chat to get tips from experienced growers. I too have had a million very detailed questions clearly marking me as a newbie hahaha. But i askd him about the HPS/MH flipping and he said that the difference isnt that noticable to a new grower. He recommended using cheap HPS bulbs to help keep costs down, while learning, tuning, and optimizing yields through ways that WILL have a noticable difference, like temps, food, water, and a the signals of the plant itself.

I kno how easily it is to get overwhelmd with all the tech, and the details, and etc. But it really made me chill out about growing and worrying about all the many ways things can go wrong. I think as new growers, we want all the best equip. cuz we think that it'll help compensate for our lack of firsthand knowledge, but really you should keep it as cheap and as simple as possible cuz u're gonna b making the most mistakes in the beginning.

Buying a ferrari doesnt make u a good driver, so buy that junker and beat the crap out of it while you learn, then when you've gone as far as you can go with what you have, then upgrade to reap the true benefits!

jus my two cents =) cheers!

[Tranoble]

My tables are up on milk crates. It saves your back big time. LOL. I dont have any drainage in my table cause I just water enough so that 24 hrs later they need watering again. I do know alot of people that use drainage and all they do if drill a 1" hole in each corner of the tables.


hey dude thanks for the quick reply. Juss one more thing i dont understand and dont know if you covered it. How does the drainage work? is there any? the reason im asking is because it looks like the bed is on the floor.

[pmorris]

I was in at my local shop and had a decent chat to get tips from experienced growers. I too have had a million very detailed questions clearly marking me as a newbie hahaha. But i askd him about the HPS/MH flipping and he said that the difference isnt that noticable to a new grower. He recommended using cheap HPS bulbs to help keep costs down, while learning, tuning, and optimizing yields through ways that WILL have a noticable difference, like temps, food, water, and a the signals of the plant itself.

I kno how easily it is to get overwhelmd with all the tech, and the details, and etc. But it really made me chill out about growing and worrying about all the many ways things can go wrong. I think as new growers, we want all the best equip. cuz we think that it'll help compensate for our lack of firsthand knowledge, but really you should keep it as cheap and as simple as possible cuz u're gonna b making the most mistakes in the beginning.

Buying a ferrari doesnt make u a good driver, so buy that junker and beat the crap out of it while you learn, then when you've gone as far as you can go with what you have, then upgrade to reap the true benefits!

jus my two cents =) cheers!

I toally understand what you mean. but i dont see the logic in buying a cheap light, then upgrading to a good one. when you can just learn with a good light :)

[thebullfrog]

I just feel that until you can consistently create good crop after good crop, whether it's right from the get-go, or after a few lost harvests, or until you can produce the most from a strain, the LITTLE extras really won't make that much of a difference until the elements that have a big difference are tuned. I mean an extra 2k lumen hps bulb thats 60$ vs. a general hps for 20$ you might as well put that 40$ towards *smoke break* good ventilation or better soils, power set ups, sky's the limit, but i know stuff like MH/HPS switchable ballasts are extra $ for such a little boost**, then an extra set of bulbs 'cause you gotta get one mh & one hps to utilize it.

** a little boost, to someone who can product 1lbs, and have it jump to 1.5-2lbs. is worth it, but when you can't even produce that, it's not the light that's the issue... but yesss if money isn't the issue then spoil those babes!

[DE.Db33t]

I love yr set up its really really nice.

Why did you choose just the polly rather than some mylar ontop?

Does the CO2 make up for an external air source?

Why not 2 1 ratio MH to HPS, HPS alone has tendancy to make long fluffy buds?

[Tranoble]

I use polly cause the shaders I use dont shine any light on the walls only on the growing surface.

The Co2 does make up for the external air. I have no air coming in from outside and I have no air going outside from my room. This is why I have to use Co2 and I can get the best production out of my plants.

I use only HPS. I managed the biggest hydroponic store in Canada for about 6 years and thats the first time I have ever heard HPS bulbs making your buds long and fluffy. My buds are long and rock hard. I allso drop my temps as cold as I can in the last 2 weeks that helps to harden my buds.


I love yr set up its really really nice.

Why did you choose just the polly rather than some mylar ontop?

Does the CO2 make up for an external air source?

Why not 2 1 ratio MH to HPS, HPS alone has tendancy to make long fluffy buds?

[MeatRulz]

Well hey i live in the U.S and and make profits off of certain green objects so ....

[email protected]

[BCBUDBOY]

Wow! is all I can say. I was wondering how many hours aday it takes to maintain 14 lights. and how many hours does it take the girls to clean it. BCBUDBOY

[DE.Db33t]

I saw about the fluffy buds in a mellow yellow's coffe house's grow video.

I never new dropping temps makes the buds harder, How low do you drop them?

Thanks for the info ;)

[MeatRulz]

If it makes bud hard how do you make them fluffy?

[futuregrower]

tranoble or someone else, - what was the gram per watt ratio that was yielded from this grow?

[futuregrower]

how will you do 12000 watts without getting suspected? id hate to see you go down.

[axel]

Tranoble,

A couple of questions for you if you dont mind..

can you tell us how long the co2 gos on for each day. does it still go on and off during the dark cycle?

how many circulating fans do you have going in there. do they run at night also?

do you let the temp fall below 85 during the night cycle? do you need a heater to keep the temperature above this level

do you use a thermostat and humidistat. if so what are the settings set to?

do you adjust the temperature of your reservoir at all?

how far above the plants do you keep the lights?

Thanks. Really neat work..

[futuregrower]

Is your Co2 meant to compensate for not having ventilation, or is it an improvement. I mean to say, are ur plants better off sealed than circulated with outside air?

[Aaron385]

why cant you people just read his posts instead of asking him the same questions over and over????? This nice guy is probably the most advanced and largest scale grower on this entire site and you keep up with the mickey mouse questions..

So pretty please with sugar on top... if you dont want to take the time to read all of the EXCELENT INFO tranoble has posted before asking him the same lame ass questions over and over please stfu and dont make this guy sorry he comes here and posts.

Tranoble- you have been so nice and you have enlightened many I promise. I keep up with this thread because you are the man! Keep up the great work and please dont feel bad about not answering the same question 15 times.. if they really cared they would read your other posts.. thanks for your time and effort and willingness to share.. I hope to see an update soon!

[thebullfrog]

Tranoble- you have been so nice and you have enlightened many I promise. I keep up with this thread because you are the man! Keep up the great work and please dont feel bad about not answering the same question 15 times.. if they really cared they would read your other posts.. thanks for your time and effort and willingness to share.. I hope to see an update soon!

**passes the peace pipe to Aaron385**
Amen bruddah

[Tranoble]

The Co2 is on only when the lights are on. The Co2 burner i use has a glow plug not a pilot light. You never want Co2 on when the lights are off. A pilot light on when the lights are off is even a bad idea.

I have 2 or 3 circulating fans for each room. They run 24/7.

My temps are 85 when my lights are on and 75 when the lights are off. I use a temp stat for that. In the last 2 weeks i drop my temps to 65 with the lights off and as low as I can with the lights off. I allso turn my lights off for the last 4 days. This helps to get rid of red hairs and make my buds more lime green.

I dont adjust my temp in my water at all. I keep my res on small pieces of 2x4 so the cold floor in the winter doesnt drop the water temp.

I keep my shaders about 22 inches from the tops of my plants. The shaders I use are so good that any closer will start to burn the tops.

Hope that answers your questions.


Tranoble,

A couple of questions for you if you dont mind..

can you tell us how long the co2 gos on for each day. does it still go on and off during the dark cycle?

how many circulating fans do you have going in there. do they run at night also?

do you let the temp fall below 85 during the night cycle? do you need a heater to keep the temperature above this level

do you use a thermostat and humidistat. if so what are the settings set to?

do you adjust the temperature of your reservoir at all?

how far above the plants do you keep the lights?

Thanks. Really neat work..

[Tranoble]

Yes Co2 in my room is to compensate for not having ventilation. My plants probably wouldnt do have as good with out the sealed room.


Is your Co2 meant to compensate for not having ventilation, or is it an improvement. I mean to say, are ur plants better off sealed than circulated with outside air?

[Tranoble]

I just got 36.5 lbs off 14 HPS. So what ever that is im too baked to figure it out.


tranoble or someone else, - what was the gram per watt ratio that was yielded from this grow?

[jaysmoke]

"I turn the co2 off for the last 10-14 days."

How do the plants make out for the last 14 days with no co2 or no ventillation? I have grown before but never done a sealed room and its got my head spinning.

[Tranoble]

Yes turn the Co2 off the last 10-14 days. Believe me they do just fine.


"I turn the co2 off for the last 10-14 days."

How do the plants make out for the last 14 days with no co2 or no ventillation? I have grown before but never done a sealed room and its got my head spinning.

[jamstigator]

36.5 pounds with 14 1k lights is an amazing 1.185 grams/watt. That's very impressive. I hope to someday achieve that efficiency (on a much smaller scale), but I doubt I ever will. I keep trying though!

[jamstigator]

Just read this whole thread. That's the most impressive soil grow I have ever seen. (I love soil!) Hats off to ya, Tran - you're an inspiration. If I'm ever in your country, and you need those '4 girls' to do your harvest work, well, I can wear womens' clothing and high heels! ;)

[Tranoble]

Thanks Jamstigator. It does seem like im answering alot of the same questions.


Just read this whole thread. That's the most impressive soil grow I have ever seen. (I love soil!) Hats off to ya, Tran - you're an inspiration. If I'm ever in your country, and you need those '4 girls' to do your harvest work, well, I can wear womens' clothing and high heels! ;)

[Specialist]

how much is your total electricity bill per month for all this? I'm thinkin about setting up a 10'x15' room based around your room plans.
How much was your c02 controller?

[geestacker]

where did you find that Thermoplus A/C unit and how much did it cost?

[dBOSS]

I understand you water everyday, but how often do you feed the plants per week? approximatley how many gallons of liquid do you give to each 3.75X3.75 Space(1 light) per feeeding/watering??

[krakatoa]

If the camera thing and dialup uploading is still an issue, look around in your camera or image program's options (or in it's save options) for something to reduce the resolution. If you see something cranked up to 300 dpi, or greater, that's too big for easy dialup transfers if it's 800x600. It might be set that high coming out of your camera. On your computer, save the .jpgs at 72 or 96 dpi for area shots, and leave the higher resolution stuff for closeups if you think you need it. Irfanviewer is a good small free app (non-nagging shareware) for image editing if your app doesn't cooperate. Posted is an edited image that was originally 2835 x 2047, at 300 dpi, and over 4MB. At that size it took up about 4 monitors worth or area in a browser, and was a pain to scroll. With Irfanviewer I made it half size twice to fit on a standard monitor, then saved, changing the resolution to 72 dpi at the save prompt. Now it's 708 x 511 pixels at 72 dpi, and is down to 100KB. That'll work for your pics even if it's coming out of the camera at the maximum size and resolution. 800x600 or 1024x768 at 72 or 96 dpi should be doable with dialup without you having to wait forever on the upload.

[payn4school]

unbelievable!! incredible! I want more dammit! more info, more pics, more of anything!
I am building a setup much like that though smaller. Trying to incorporate the best shit into the design but knowing what the best shit is can be the hardest part.

congrats tranoble, you have earned it. I wish I could think of some questions but most of mine relate to hydro.

Did you ever say how you were powering all this? Also what do you attribute mostly to your phenomenal yield? One more, Do you feel that the advanced nutes are worth it? Those are extremely expensive. I heard of crop failures because of them, supossedly. I heard that from my dude that works at a shop that doesnt carry advance. They push pure blend pro, which Is what Im giving a try.

I could be payn for harvard with that setup.

thanks

[green T]

how do you flush your plants?

[The_Chronicler]

Yes my man,,,,Killer BC Bud! We grow the best up in thiz shit!

[Tranoble]

I worked for Advanced. I dont use all the shit they tell you to use. Look back in my post you will see what i use. If dont use Advanced try General Hydro. Never used Pure Blend so I cant tell yea any thing about it. If you read back you will allso see how I get away with the hydro bill too.

Good Luck!


unbelievable!! incredible! I want more dammit! more info, more pics, more of anything!
I am building a setup much like that though smaller. Trying to incorporate the best shit into the design but knowing what the best shit is can be the hardest part.

congrats tranoble, you have earned it. I wish I could think of some questions but most of mine relate to hydro.

Did you ever say how you were powering all this? Also what do you attribute mostly to your phenomenal yield? One more, Do you feel that the advanced nutes are worth it? Those are extremely expensive. I heard of crop failures because of them, supossedly. I heard that from my dude that works at a shop that doesnt carry advance. They push pure blend pro, which Is what Im giving a try.

I could be payn for harvard with that setup.

thanks

[dBOSS]

do you use only sunshine mix or do you add any perlite or anything? You say your soil is 5 " deep, but dont the plants get root bound?? also, how do you flush with no drainage?? do you taste any chemicals when you light up? Do you have any rule of thumbs for watering?

THANKS

[Tranoble]

Take the time to read the thread.


do you use only sunshine mix or do you add any perlite or anything? You say your soil is 5 " deep, but dont the plants get root bound?? also, how do you flush with no drainage?? do you taste any chemicals when you light up? Do you have any rule of thumbs for watering?

THANKS

[Racerx]

Hey Tranoble, got any updated pictures? Would love to see some more. Great inspiration.

[evan1]

All you did is grow your grow and you inspired people. Isn't that strange. By posting this stuff you've aquired quite a fan club. But you could get some groupie sluts now hahahaha. No but seroiusly these dudes suck your dick and it's funny to watch. All you envious closet growers, if you just learned to save money you could do this too. Kill your TV and live your dreams.

BTW good shit man, but I think that one dudes right. I also believe it's Chernoble or something like that spelling.

[payn4school]

Hey cool guy. what is the point of being so negative? ironically it appears that you are the one attemping to smoke some pole. Here is what these questions lead to> innovation and fewer failures.

Just cause your passion involves breaking these screwed up laws of ours, doesnt mean you have to act like a dirt bag...

[Tranoble]

There must be something wrong with you. What would make you imagine people suckin my dick?

And by the way i think its Devan not Evan.


All you did is grow your grow and you inspired people. Isn't that strange. By posting this stuff you've aquired quite a fan club. But you could get some groupie sluts now hahahaha. No but seroiusly these dudes suck your dick and it's funny to watch. All you envious closet growers, if you just learned to save money you could do this too. Kill your TV and live your dreams.

BTW good shit man, but I think that one dudes right. I also believe it's Chernoble or something like that spelling.

[harris7]

Hey tranoble, I am using some of the same nutes. as you (Micro, grow and bloom) and I am thinking about buying some others. you said that you think they were a waist of money. I am wondering if you thought all were or just some. would you recommend any of them?

thanks

[harris7]

btw, i live in BC too just in Vancouver i've been getting advanced nutes because i can get them at there warehouse for quite a bit cheaper

[Tranoble]

I dont remember saying all food except advanced is a waist of money. I think buying all the stuff that advance tells you to use to get 2+ is a waist of money. As for other foods I have only used Advanced, 6 Weeks, and GH. They are pretty much the same thing. I wouldnt use any thing else but thats me.


Hey tranoble, I am using some of the same nutes. as you (Micro, grow and bloom) and I am thinking about buying some others. you said that you think they were a waist of money. I am wondering if you thought all were or just some. would you recommend any of them?

thanks

[harris7]

[quote=Tranoble]THE SEALED ROOM
You can use all the item listed but personaly I think its a waste of money.The items I use are:
QUOTE]

I was just talking about the advanced nutes. Which ones do you recommend and which ones do you consider a waste of money.

thanks

[Dazed4now]

you should post some pics of the root masses after you harvest
also were can you order that Growth Excel is it from AN?

[deftdrummer]

hey I searched this thread and nobody asked, but do you worry about energy spike at all? With that many lights I would think the feds would be knocking on your door in like 3 weeks.

[Tranoble]

No worry about energy spike. Read the thread and ull see what i use. If the feds woulda been knocking on my door in three weeks they woulda been knocking on my door about 6 yrs ago.


hey I searched this thread and nobody asked, but do you worry about energy spike at all? With that many lights I would think the feds would be knocking on your door in like 3 weeks.

[Tranoble]

Yes Growth Excel is made by AN. Theres allso another made by Grow Tec called Groth Plus.


you should post some pics of the root masses after you harvest
also were can you order that Growth Excel is it from AN?

[Tranoble]

I think I have allready answered this. Look back a ways if not ask me again and ill answer it. Sorry i dont have time I am playing Poker lol.


[quote=Tranoble]THE SEALED ROOM
You can use all the item listed but personaly I think its a waste of money.The items I use are:
QUOTE]

I was just talking about the advanced nutes. Which ones do you recommend and which ones do you consider a waste of money.

thanks

[harris7]

Sorry man I’ve read through the whole thread and I couldn’t find any specifics, only you said that you really don’t need all the stuff they sell. To that I totally agree I only got Micro, grow and bloom just sticking to the basics. I have been looking through there selection and they seem to have a lot of interesting products like carbload. What I really wana know is if I was only going to buy two more which would you suggest.

Thanks a lot

[kushman45]

harris7 you did not read very good, first page very first post he list the AN products he uses here they are..:stoned:

-Micro
-Grow
-Bloom
-Mothers Earth Tea (Bloom)
-B-52 (B1, Vitamax)
-Carboload (Powder)
-Voodoo Juice
-Big Bud (Powder)
-Overdrive
-Final Phase (Flush Solution)

[harris7]

yes i read that. And right b4 he says you shouldn't use everything he did because he thought it was a waist of money.

ps-tranoble did you mean that you recommend everything you used and not really all the hundreds of other products AN sells?

[pmorris]

idk what tran uses but i use g/m/b fp and bb never used all the others.

[kushman45]

harris7 it is kinda confusing but what I think he means is you can use everthing on AN's nute calculator but he only uses what he has listed thats what I made of it.............:rasta:

[Tranoble]

If you are only going to use 2 more i suggest using the Growyh Excel and the Big Bud. Spray the Growth excel every day right when the lights come on. Do not spray any later than that. With the Big Bud use half of what they say to use and use it every feeding when you start to see buds. Stop using it about 2 weeks before you cut down. Dont use it when you are giving your plants straight water.


Sorry man Iâ??ve read through the whole thread and I couldnâ??t find any specifics, only you said that you really donâ??t need all the stuff they sell. To that I totally agree I only got Micro, grow and bloom just sticking to the basics. I have been looking through there selection and they seem to have a lot of interesting products like carbload. What I really wana know is if I was only going to buy two more which would you suggest.

Thanks a lot

[Tranoble]

That right harris. You could still cut down on some of the extra stuff that I use if you wanna save some more money. The ones I think you must use tho are:

Grow
Micro
Bloom
Growth Excel (Growth Plus)
Vita Boost (Vita Max)
Big Bud





yes i read that. And right b4 he says you shouldn't use everything he did because he thought it was a waist of money.

ps-tranoble did you mean that you recommend everything you used and not really all the hundreds of other products AN sells?

[Tranoble]

The best thing I think I use is Growth Excel. The stuff is amazing. I plant my babies and spray them. The next day i swear there is allmost twice as many leaves on each plant. I swear by the stuff. Its a must have.

[pmorris]

Tranoble, how much space do you have around your soil beds to walk around etc..

[Tranoble]

I only have a walk way down two sides. 2 foot each side.


Tranoble, how much space do you have around your soil beds to walk around etc..

[outcold28]

i have a question? so you use alot of power and you use the pf2 equalizer to have a more cost efficient current. but you have a huge a/c, 14 lights, dehumidifier, you now have clones so thats using even more power. how the hell are getting away with this. or does the pf2 really cover up/make up for that much power usage? is it a house just devoted to your operation or do you live there to? and how many rooms do you have in your house? because the bigger the house the more power you can get away with.:thumbsup: by the way you are a great example of how operations should be performed nowadays, cge is the shit nothing works better! great job bro

[harris7]

What is a pf2 equalizer?

[outcold28]

What is a pf2 equalizer?

The Equalizer delivers these savings by correcting the Power Factor (PF) of the AC power to the consumerâ??s home. Any time an inductive load such as fans, compressors, ballasts or anything containing a motor is connected to a power grid the current will lag the voltage. The phase angle of this lag (Cos q) is referred to as Power Factor. Electrical companies allow a 90% to 95% PF. The electrical companies penalize the consumer if the consumption rate is outside of this range.

Voltage and current change direction 60 times per second. If the voltage and the current change directions at the same time and in the same direction, the Power Factor is said to be unity. If the current lags the voltage, the PF becomes less than unity and some of the current will be effectively â??wastedâ?�. The innovative circuitry of the Equalizer will â??re-alignâ?� the PF, resulting in better power efficiency for the consumer.

Electrical motors in the home consume inductive power, which is a common cause leading to voltage and current misalignment. When switched on, they draw Apparent Power (kVA) from the mains due to lagging current. kVA is comprised of Active Power (kW), the power actually being consumed, as well as Reactive Power (kVAr), the power feeding the inductive portion of the load.

Reactive Power (kVAr) is of no benefit to the user, but does cost the consumer money. The less kVAr used the greater the savings, with no reduced consumption. Real Power and Apparent Power are said to be at unity, at 1.0 PF, if they share the same plane. All electrical energy is then going towards real work.

[harris7]

interesting, so i guess it's a pretty significant loss to reactive power

since you seem to be on the ball, what do ballasts actually do?
thanks

[outcold28]

interesting, so i guess it's a pretty significant loss to reactive power

since you seem to be on the ball, what do ballasts actually do?
thanks

ballasts covert the power like 120v or 240v to a current usable by the light plus is has an igniter that starts the light bulb.

[c of green]

lr1000 is a hood,reflecter,shader.....whatever.if you want one go to [url]www.westcoastgrowers.com. They claim up to 28% higher yeild.never used one just knew where they were and seen alot of people asking

[outcold28]

lr1000 is a hood,reflecter,shader.....whatever.if you want one go to [url]www.westcoastgrowers.com. They claim up to 28% higher yeild.never used one just knew where they were and seen alot of people asking

another good site to get these shades is http://www.hydroempire.com/store/index.php/cPath/3_26