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GHoSToKeR
06-12-2004, 06:01 AM
hey all
heres my thought for the day

im a 17 year old guy, i live on a small island near France, but is part of the UK.. for the first few years of my 'teenagehood' i conformed.. i went to school, got good grades, didnt smoke, didnt drink, was only starting to notice that girls werent just boys with long hair, and on the whole i made everyone proud.. then i went through a bad patch, went through the court systems a few times, and ended up in jail.. at the time i thought i wasnt doing anything wrong, i felt victimised, but ive obviously matured since then coz i KNOW i was a little fuck up lol.. since i got outta jail ive kept myself to myself.. tried to stop hanging at the same spots with the same people doing the same shit.. kept awake from that lifestyle, u know? ive been smoking ganj since about 14 so only a few years, but now instead of going to pubs, clubs, etc and getting drunk with all my mates, i PREFER to stay in, light up a fat one and read a gd book on philosophy or something.. it sounds lame but thats just how i am right now.. before i started fucking my school life up i was like everyone else, all that was important to me was getting a good education, then gettin a good job, so i could grow up and have the "finer things in life" coz hey, thats why we all go to school, right? but anyway, ive had a lot of time to reflect lately.. i see the news everyday and all there is on it is killing, poverty, hunger.. the people trying to help us are making it worse.. the governemts of now and the recent past are hypocrital, lying, sometimes immoral and unethical, even going to the extreme, such as hitler, saddam, stalin etc etc.. but all people seem to want to do is grow up, work a 9-5 job, have a family, get a nice car, a mortgage, and die.... why dont we want to change? .. people waste their lives working 9-5 then they die.. whats the point? so our children can do the same? this isnt how people should be living, and im sure thats why so many people go out on friday and saturday and get wasted.. to hide.. to forget about all this, about the atrocities going on around us.. because deep down we all know this isnt how we were supposed to live.. but maybe im just like alot of other 17 year olds.. im not fed up with life, i love life and i enjoy life to the fullest.. i just hate the way the world and our societies have turned out... or am i just another pessimistic 17 year old, wanna-be anarchist, with nothing better to do then get high and bitch about life, and pissed off because im not old enough to get into clubs yet??? maybe i am.. but if i am, i wont be for long...... im 18 soon ;) ....thx for taking the time :P

kiwi
06-12-2004, 07:47 AM
:) Well to start with....you are not a freak mate, infact for 17 you have a very mature outlook. It takes a big person to admit that they have made a fuck up, and you have done this and can see where you went wrong. I think that with the attitude you seem to have you will make something out of your life, and your stint in jail may have taught you some good life lessions. Be true to yourself mate and I wish you all the best on your journey though life, I have a feeling you will go along way. ;)

GHoSToKeR
06-12-2004, 07:58 AM
hey kiwi mate
thanks for the reply dude.. at least it was positive lol im pretty new to this forum.. actually im brand new to this forum.. ACTUALLY im brand new to any forum.. except the marihemp forum of course.. this forum looks pretty cool, though so i look forward to talkin to u all in the future
thanks again

-GhoSToKeR-

HvyFuel
06-12-2004, 01:34 PM
It could be worse mate I'm a pessimistic 40 year old, wanna-be anarchist, with nothing better to do than get high and bitch about life, and pissed off because im too old to go into clubs. :mad: ;)

I agree with kiwi, old head on young shoulders, you lucky bugger, puts you in front of the one's getting drunk and fighting. Try for university.

carpe diem and all that :)

GHoSToKeR
06-12-2004, 02:47 PM
hey

hell yeah, i went through the whole "getting drunk and fighing" thing before my mates.. u could say i immatured quicker than them ;) .. thats one thing i like about these boards, you can always find like-minded, decent people with interesting things to say and i appreciate both of your replies :)

To be honest, i dont think we're pessimistic, at least i dont think i am ;) , i consider myself more of a realist.. i could go about my business acting like the worlds just peachy, or i could open my eyes and tell it like it is.. i prefer the latter.. in an ideal world, enough people will tell it like it is to make a difference.. hey you never know, maybe i'll be the next PM :p ...imagine passing round a bowl in Parliament lol anyway thx for boosting my ego for the day guys and hopefully ill ttyl

peace

-GHoSToKeR-

and P.S. in the words of the legend, philosopher, idealist, revolutionary, poet and all around funny as fuck guy, Austin Powers..... college aint my bag, baby :D

maryjanemama
06-12-2004, 05:03 PM
It's Ok how you feel, but, I hope you're going to do something about it to make your life better than the 9 to 5ers. It all depends on what you consider success. If you consider it to be financial freedom then you're going to have to do the 9 to 5 gig to get along. Unless you have some great idea about how to make money and not work full time...in which case, fill me in. If you don't think money is a big deal, than you can live your life doing whatever you feel but I don't know what it is that you want to achieve.


I hate to say it (and many people will disagree with me, I'm sure) but money makes life a hell of a lot easier, man. Once you make enough to meet your needs, you'll be able to do what you, go where you want. The reason most people fall into the 9 to 5 trap is because they WANT cars, a house, etc. I know that I do, anyway. If you can live without those things, you'll be fine. It's basically whatever floats your boat. I once broke up with a guy because he and I didn't see eye to eye about money (who cares? I'm telling you, anyway). He would say things like, "Mary, all I need is to wake up in the morning and breath the air!" OK. Fine. What he really needed was a fucking savings account and some assets. Right now he is 35, living in a rented trailor, smoking a bowl...and he is perfectly happy with that. I prefer to be smoking a bowl in my own home and know shit is paid for and if I want /need something I can buy it.

So, decide what is important to you and go do what you like. Good luck and I hope you find peace.:)

Dr Timothy Leary
06-12-2004, 05:22 PM
yeah ghostoker m8 u aint a freak - jus a matured person lol, im only 16/m/uk but wen i was younger i wanted 2 join da RAF, now.....i stil wana join up, get tha money etc etc, then once i hav wat i need, im gona leave tha UK n live wit red indians on a reserve in arizona o summat lol, mayb not ur ideal life - but it appeals 2 me, smokin skunk wit such spiritually awakened ppl must b a laff :D lata m8, peace

mckenna
06-12-2004, 05:32 PM
No, you're not a freak & if you are then I am too. Hey wait a minute.... I actually think freaks are good so we can both be one, k?

I agree with a lot of what you've said.... my problem is I WANT to change but I'm not quite sure how. I do the 9-5 thing & it's ok..... it's a job & pays the bills but I know there's more to life than that. I know I know... it is what you make of it, but seems the older I get the faster it goes and I just want to yell "stop!!! someone let me off of this merry-go-round!"

I don't & never have been one to watch the news or keep up on world events & shame on me maybe but I get sick of seeing all of the same depressing stories. They're be quick to tell you about the man who threw his girlfriend off the overpass but where's the good news??? Where's the "we interrupt your favorite tv show to tell you about the wonderful deed of so-and-so"... (ok, so don't interrupt my tv show, but take out the commercial). ;-)

I don't want my life to become the routine ~ get up, go to work, have a few hours in the evening to sleep and then get up and do it all over again, but that's just what it is for the most part. Maybe it's just all a matter of perspective & I've been kinda blah feeling lately so that's just the way I'm going to see things right now.

Which makes me long for the "good 'ole days" of going out & getting blister fried partying my ass off.... which I haven't done in years but it seemed to make life so much more bareable! I know that's not the road to take, unless I want to take the road to jail, death or both (& I don't!) but sometimes the break from reality is nice.

Ok... enough blabbing... I should go try and do something productive today.
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Never meddle in the affairs of dragons;
For you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

GHoSToKeR
06-12-2004, 05:35 PM
hey maryjanemama

thanks for the reply, nice to meet u :)
its good to see so many people take the time to reply to me without the "dumb kid" kinda attitude that alot of people get on the marihemp boards..

i wouldnt go so far as to say money and material things arent important to me, im 17, of course theyre important.. and yeah i know eventually im gonna settle into a 9-5, maybe settle down have kids, take out a mortgage, etc etc lol.. thats not wot i was saying and im sorry if thats how i sounded.. i come across as arrogant sometimes when i dont mean to, and for that i apologise..

i was pretty baked when i wrote that post, i musta be in one of my philosophical moods. lol. I know money is important, and no fucking way do i wana grow up living in a shit-hole with no money to spend, you need money to enjoy yourself too. I was just saying i hate the fact that society is at the point now where money and power are everything. All of our lives are run by money or the acquisition of money and it really fucking gets to me sometimes, the way peoples lives can be ruined over money. I know people going through financial problems right now and it affects them all day, every day. Its almost like they cant be happy because of it, u know? thats wot pisses me off. I probably will go to college because i know some day i might have kids and i want to give them a good life too, you know? i just wish we all didnt depend on money to be happy within ourselves. A family member of mine was in substantial debt, could barely afford to live, ended up going bankrupt and eventually commited suicide.. he could have still enjoyed life as much as everyone else, but society tells us we need money to be happy, to survive, noone ever considers that we can be happy without it..

at the moment im an atheist, simply because i think im too young to make any imformed decisions about which religion is the "right" religion.. i also believe that religion is the number one cause of fighting and wars in this world... but apart from religion, the underlying cause of so many wars, so much fighting, so much hate, anger, so many murders, betrayals, so much of the violence we see today is money! thats what i was trying to say,.. it saddens me to think we, supposedly the most intelligant form of life on this planet or perhaps the universe, continue to tear eachother apart over something we created...

thanks again for your reply maryjanemama and sorry if i come across as arrogant lol i look forward to talkin to ya soon :)

GHoSToKeR
06-12-2004, 05:47 PM
hey Dr TL and McKenna

Dr TL dude if thats wot u wanna go go for it.. it'd be so cool to live that kinda life, get out of here while im still young and still got all my limbs :P i dunno about joining the RAF, i wouldnt do that myself, but im not gonna start preaching all my bullshit again, ive only just started posting here lol but yea , get wot u need and fuckin do it man, and gd luck to ya :)

McKenna

i think to be honest, most people know thats not wot lifes all about.. i see everyone goin out gettin wasted every weekend, i do it myself too, and im pretty sure ppl do it to get away from the mundane lifes so many of us live.. but i guess youre right, its all how u percieve it.. u can work a 9-5 and still be happy, fuck yeah u can.. but its kinda hard to be optomistic when theres so much negative goin on around us.. i hope this is just a phase im going through and i start to see the world differently coz how i see it now is pretty fucking depressing... lol but cheers for the reply guys and i hope ill talk to ya soon, mckenna gd luck and i hope u find peace wotever ur doin ;)

-GHoSToKeR-

maryjanemama
06-12-2004, 06:06 PM
Ghostoker,

No, you didn't sound arrogant. Hopefully, you'll figure out what will make you happy. I hope you do rethink college because it may not seem like what you want to do now, but someday, you may regret it. I didn't go and now I am taking a course at almost 30 with a family and it's hard. I wish I would've done it after high school, instead of going to trade school (what the hell was I thinking?).

As far as religion goes, I still don't have that all sorted and I'm not worried. There are lots of people who post on these boards that feel the same as you and I. I just keep trying to learn about different faiths until I come up with something that makes sense to me.

You are a very smart 17 year old and have a good head on your shoulders. Keep dreaming and change the world in whatever little way you can to make it a better place...it's really all you can do. And don't let anyone tell you that you have to give up cannabis to be a success! That's bullshit. As long as you are motivated, you can achieve anything.

PS. I hope the "old" Jersey is a lot better than the new one!

Roland Bluntz
06-13-2004, 02:22 AM
Ghostoker, good summary. I agree with that you're being realist not pessimistic, and the world basically does suck adn things don't run as they should etc. etc. Honestly this is a big part of the reason I like doing drugs, who cares about being in reality when reality is way more fucked up than any drug can make you anyway.

GHoSToKeR
06-13-2004, 04:53 AM
hey maryjanemama and roland bluntz

cheers for the reply.. weeds gota put everythin in perspective for u.. if i had posted sumthin like that on a differnet forum they woulda just been like "what the fuck, man?" lol

maryjanamama, as for college and shit, i dunno wot im gonna do yet.. i dont wanna make any decisions like that before i know wot i want, not wot im told i should want, u know? i dont wana live that kinda life but if i have to then im not gona fuck it up so im gonna take my time for now :P

anyway thats enough of my bullshit lol im new here and i dont know any of you, so who are you, where do you all come from, what are you all doing with your lifes etc? thx :)

-GHoSToKeR-

duppy man
06-16-2004, 10:48 PM
It could be worse mate I'm a pessimistic 40 year old, wanna-be anarchist, with nothing better to do than get high and bitch about life, and pissed off because I'm too old to go into clubs. :mad: ;)

I agree with kiwi, old head on young shoulders, you lucky bugger, puts you in front of the one's getting drunk and fighting. Try for university.

carpe diem and all that :) depends on how old u look if u can get away with clubbin without making an arse of your self do it... Hvy..I had some mates who were involved in the house scene,,,Acid... 1990ees and I went free of charge...£15 at the time...in a disused warehouse in the W/Mids it was arse kickin best night ever....Boss

HvyFuel
06-16-2004, 11:38 PM
Ah, the Madchester scene, Aciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidd!!! :) Pleasant memories. Twistin' me mellon man. Oasis to get stoned first then Hacienda. Hang the DJ. Morrisey really is a twat. Anthony Wilson. What a total c*nt. I fell asleep on top of the speakers once. Green room opposite the bar. You up fer it fella? Was that really me!? I'd write a book if I could remember which were the real bits.

Been there, done that, threw up on the T-shirt. Hazy, crazy, lazy. I wouldn't swap with Prince Charles. Thank you for that little reverie duppy, I'd almost forgotten.

peace :)

nancyrenee
06-17-2004, 02:07 AM
No. You aren't a freak. People do different things when they are stoned. I know some people who do nothing but play video games or watch cartoons. I like to read when I'm high as well. When you are high your imagination really soars. So I can see why you like reading about philosophy. Philosophy is just ideas and usually it's very hard to understand. Being stoned helps you to understand it better. So no you aren't a freak.

Looker
06-17-2004, 04:36 PM
You just figured out that this whole thing basically stinks

This is not Utopia :mad:

Unless your born rich or can get rich its probably gonna be a 9 to 5

The wife and kids ARE a great thing AND will push you to the 9 to 5

READ MORE BOOKS AND SMOKE MORE FATTIES IT WONT HURT YOU....

STAY AWAY FROM ALCOHOL AND HARD DRUGS LIKE CRACK AND METH HEROIN

HOPEFULLY GOOD BOOKS MAY HELP YOU MAKE A CAREER CHOICE OR BETTER YET , FIND A TRUE CALLING....AND PLEASE DONT VOTE REPUBLICAN

Looker
06-17-2004, 04:47 PM
ALL THE RELIGION IS BULLSHIT AND CREATES MORE PROBLEMS...JUST LOOK AT THE WORLD TODAY... :confused:

Most of the politics is bullshit too... lousy rotten lying snakes look at Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld....THEY ALL NEED TO SMOKE A FATTY :rolleyes:

NANCY REAGAN IS NOW FOR STEM CELL RESEARCH.. :)

ALL THE COPS NARCS AND FEDS CAN KISS MY NARROW WHITE ASS :mad:

DRUG TESTING IS BULLSHIT.... DISCRIMINATES AGAINST POT SMOKERS.. AT LEAST DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA :D

HOW COULD ANYONE BLAME YOU FOR PULLING AWAY FROM SUCH A LOUSY WORLD??...PEACE...