Clinton or Bush?

[Takingsunday21]

Just curious who you would vote for? CNN may conduct this poll and it got me thinking.

[amsterdam]

Bush!

dosent matter,they will never face each other.McCain in '08

[ermitonto]

Neither. I don't support Republicrats.

[Canadabis]

I picked bush, but i voted Nader like 15 times. I cant believe they let a Canadian do that, meh.

Seriously though, destabilizing the U.S. is allowing hteings like hte E.U. and the Chinese to grow and increase trade, and more trade and more competition is great for everyone except America. So George Bush is "good" for the world by enabling change, but is really "bad" right at this moment, the thing im more concerned about is democrats winning pretty easily after bushs term, and having so much to clean up; more then they probably can in a single term; allowing the republicans to win maybe 2 more in a row after the next democrat term, meaning htat when these old superior court judges retire it WILL BE REPUBLICAN HARDLINERS who get to pick the next ones. That will allow one or two constitution changes :rolleyes: thats bad folks, abortion-gone, drugs-nixon prison times, guns-for everyone, anti american protests-gone, anti establishmentalism-labelled too destablising/dangerous to continue FOR YOUR OWN GOOD :D
So really Bush is only the precurser for a looooooooooooooooooong trend of destablizing policy changes.

[Takingsunday21]

That's a nice theory, but I don't see why we would have to have a Republican after the next Democrat? I get what you mean for the next president being a Democrat but why would America vote in another Republican after we get a Democrat in?

[Canadabis]

Well the way I look at it, the status quo will be like the Vietnam war, it becomes an inherited problem, makes anyone involved look bad. So after Bush people will be sick of Republicans, enough to vote in a Democrat, now this poor obeese black lesbian (ok ok white middle aged man of wealth from an ivy league school) will be stuck with a very badly losing war, economic dificulties, trade problems etc, and a supreme court that is probably going to be a little combative, so im thinking that will lead to a good try, maybe even a very effective term, but public opinion will be easily spun by images of an even more fucked up war/scandal etc that has been laid in Bush's last term in office. So after this term of progress and improvement (thats the "best" case scenario) the people will most likely be very upset with whats going on, it will be on paper worse then in Bush's time, then in come the republicans with promises of stability, tough stance on issues, America first yadda yadda in goes George Bush junior-junior (whatever, you know what I mean, all out republican) and the real damage that will be done is that in that term, in 2012-2016 all the supreme court judges pending retirement will retire, being replaced by republican friendly hard liners, setting the stage for constitution changes over the next few years to set up multi term presidencies (tehre are precedents in the past) abolishment of some rights and freedoms, for everyones safety etc.

[mellow mood]

i still cant beleive how someone can vote for Bush

**sigh**

[Takingsunday21]

Alright, I see what you're saying now Canada, but it took a Clinton (democrat) to clean up the last Bush's mess and it will take another. Bill Clinton was a great president until he lied under oath. If the next Democrat cleans up after Bush and doesn't pull anything stupid I think we could pull out with another following him.

[mellow mood]

i think americans will vote again for Bush in the next election


i think im gonna cry

[ezjim]

Neither. I don't support Republicrats.
you got it dude they are no more than oposames ...other than a couple petty social diferances of opinion they are exactly the same

[Takingsunday21]

He can't run for another term this is his second term. Hypothetically I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be elected again anyway because of what's happened while he's been president. It's like Nixon all over again.

[Takingsunday21]

C'mon guys more votes. When Clinton lied no one died! lol

[beachguy in thongs]

With Bill Clinton and George Bush never again being voted upon, I was thinking that it might be a vote on females in the family, but guess not. Whichever one would legalize herb would get my vote, Clinton didn't and Bush is running out of time. It's gotta be Hillary or Barbara to do the honors. I just don't see it. I just don't get it. Why can't there be a seperate country that you're only allowed in if you're deemed, cool or easy to get along with? That means open to ALL ideas. My longest post, yet my most rambling.

[beachguy in thongs]

And Nixon may have had something to do with the murder of Jimi Hendrix.

[Takingsunday21]

Bush nor Clinton would legalize marijuana. I was just wondering who you would rather have as a president. I know that it's impossible for them to campaign against eachother but I just though it would be interesting to see everyones view on it. Some people say Clinton was like a cool substitute teacher lol. It went from Bush to Clinton and now to another Bush. Both of the Bush presidents were dicks and we had a cool substitute in between.

[beachguy in thongs]

I think Bush is hilarious, any personal problems you have is between you two. I'm not into politics because a lot of others, actually, like it and know a lot of things that I don't, so I'll probably vote for the guy who legalized herb and then throws all the pot-smokers into detainment camps. Clinton was cool. I'd still leave the voting up to you people because when it comes to issues like Neo-natal-molecular-nucleiic acid's effect on pesticides used in, or around, 50 feet of another person's house, I have no clue.

[BlueCat]

They are both neoliberal assholes....

[Da1lungwonder]

I picked clinton..
I HATE bush, hated his dad,and will continue to hate all political ass fucks that screw with my life,because they "think" its the right thing...

[90civicracer]

George W. Bush...I would have voted for him this last election but I was 3 months too young.

[unmeg]

i think americans will vote again for Bush in the next election


i think im gonna cry
OH FUCK! you mean Bush can run a third time?
when did they change that law?lol :eek:

[mellow mood]

o

i didnt know bout that law


im sure hell find a way to change it :eek:

[Takingsunday21]

No he can't run for a third term.

[BizzleLuvin]

even tho i am republican and i dont agree with some of the clinton policies, i have to admit that bill was successful during the kosovo crisis.

[unmeg]

FOR THE LAST TIME CLINTON IS DEMOCRAT!!!
BUSH REPUBLICAN
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NextGen]

The good presidents get assasinated. Whats up with that?
clinton btw. lol he's so funny and does'nt even know it. :)

[Takingsunday21]

"FOR THE LAST TIME CLINTON IS DEMOCRAT!!!
BUSH REPUBLICAN"

Lol, what's your point? He was saying that even though he is a republican he agrees with some of the things Clinton, a democrat, did.

[The Piper]

clinton was a great president,bush isnt simple as that

[kevy cola]

In Canada you can run for multiple terms as prime minister, prolly why mellow mood said that. We re-elected jean cretien twice

[MrsDarkIdol]

There are really people on here who have voted for BUSH??!!??!?
I mean the first election, he forced his way in, BUT the fact we re-elected him AGAIN totally floors me.
Never voted for Bush never would. ANY Bush, the whole family is corrupted!
Well, just my oppinion :D
To each his own right?
Just makes me want to move out of the country because it's embaressing he's our president.
Just till he's out.

So obviously I voted for Clinton :rolleyes:

[looseends]

...clinton. nuff said.

[Canadabis]

You know keep one thing in mind.
George Bush junior is a very very intelligent man. Dont kid yourself, he has risen to the pinnacle of civilisations richest nation.
But there is something behind any presidency, its the prevaling attitudes, these are senators, congressmen, and probably the most important; supreme court judges and lobby groups. so basically a pres is a mediator and lightning rod in a power struggle between many groups of people with differing vehicles, but generally one destination; dynasty.
points are kept and scored with money basically.

What i really wonder is, if hes ever peed in any of the white house sinks, i mean why else do they put those things at crotch height?

[BlueCat]

why else do they put those things at crotch height?

Gee I don't know... maybe to WASH dirty hands?!

[screwedcork]

nobody died when clinton lied.

[Da1lungwonder]

nobody died when clinton lied.

Best point ive heard...

[Canadabis]

yeah but i mean, wouldnt it be easier to wash your hands at like abdomen height, or somewhere at the lower point of hte sternum. rather then having to stopp over, kinda bad on hte back. likewise peeing in said sink...ratehr then like a foot and a half drop from wang to thang you just sort of let it drop into the sink and away you go, no splashing, no spatter on your shoes, dunno geuss i wont run for president.
But i do wash my hands thank you very much! im just freakishly tall and say weird things for fun.

[Muggles]

Clinton was on the surface was a 'fun substitute teacher' but below his true self was that of a con-man and a fucking crook... his whole life illustrates that perfectly.

[Canadabis]

anyone ever get the joke that the government is pulling? everyone is taking orders from DICK BUSH and COLON?

[unmeg]

"FOR THE LAST TIME CLINTON IS DEMOCRAT!!!
BUSH REPUBLICAN"

Lol, what's your point? He was saying that even though he is a republican he agrees with some of the things Clinton, a democrat, did.
oopps :o stonner momment,I totaly read it wrong what a asshole I am.

[unmeg]

You know keep one thing in mind.
George Bush junior is a very very intelligent man
ROFLMAO

[BalliN]

ha this whole thread is funny, lol