Fuck Parents, pricks

[3 Sheets To The Wind]

My mum called me outside, so i went out, she said "get a chair" and i said "I know what's coming now". She proceeded to tell me that ALL cannabis users eventually go on to heroin, i told her that a few do, 'cause cannabis is a weak "drug" (if you can even class it as a drug) and she said that she's only looking out for me, and doesn't want me dying on heroin OD as she "knows" that if i don't stop toking now i will be a junkie in a year or 2 (stupid cunt, i was being sooo nice to her, went shopping with her, carried 8(!!!) full bags of shopping and didn't leave any for her to carry to be kind).
So she gives me an article from a newspaper saying that all cannabis users get mental health problems (article was titled "Cannabis users end up in psychiactric ward" and her telling me that i would be a horrible person if i continued!
Then she says there'll be trouble if she EVER smells or finds any cannabis again, i mean wtf! She then asked which of my friends smoke (by this point i was shaking with anger, as all the BS she said, i was trying to tell her the truth, but she wouldn't listen, i even asked her to read the FAQ on this site, and she said, "No, that's just a pothead's opinion on there".
There's no reasoning with her, i used to have respect for her and my dad, but realise they are very close minded, and dumb as fuck for all the heroin and junkie comments they gave me!

Sorry for the ranting, but i ended up storming off when she raised her voice, telling the whole street (both next door neighbours were in the gardens) that i smoke weed, and am going to be a junkie in a year or 2. She has pissed me off sooo badly, and my parents will give me like one word answers to anything i say for at least a week now, they fuckin' suck, they need to understand and chill the fuck out a bit!
Also my dad didn't get involved that much when i quoted facts about alcohol being worse than weed, as he drank about 10 bottles of stella last night when a mate was round..
Any ideas how to get them to CHILL THE FUCK OUT?!

..Josh (pissed off)

[3 Sheets To The Wind]

Also the other night my mum came back from work accusing me of drinking, saying my eyes looked funny and red and glazed, so i said i had been sleeping (which i had about an houe or 2 earlier). So when she was coming out with all her bullshit she said "You know the other night when i said your eyes looked funny? (muttering under heard breath, i bet you don't remember) well i know for a fact you were absolutely off your head that night, you were drugged up a lot, and it has to stop, as the effects won't be as good soon and you will find something harder (hence the heroin part, bitch!)

[st0n3r]

dude soz 2 hear bout ur parents........in 30 odd years......yes we may have a different opinion on cannabis, but i still think that one of em won't be ''it led me on to take herion''.

[3 Sheets To The Wind]

Yeah, i'm going to carry on, and show them that i didn't die from an OD and never did anything stronger than weed or shrooms. They can kiss my ass. Also my parents are hooked on caffiene so i'm going to bring that up next time they put our weed down. The other night my mum had like 4 cups of coffee in an hour, so i said, "why do you need to keep drinking coffee?" and all she could say was "I don't, i just like it" and then walked away and couldn't back up why she always drinks tea and coffee (they taste like shit, only ever had a sip of each to try them, and make your breath all horrible and shitty smelling, it sucks). They are making their 2nd cup each in the past half an hour

[Syrus]

Hey, theres nothing wrong with a good cup of tea. But your mam does sound like shes been brainwashed by the goverment, hope things go well for you and hopefulyl she'll learn the truth one day

[3 Sheets To The Wind]

She better had learn the truth, like someone said ages ago, i want to make some brownies and get my parents high, so they know what it feels like, but there would be a hell of a lot of trouble if i did. I'll see how things go.
Tea and coffee aren't bad, but drinking them constantly in the middle of the day (i'd only use them to stay awake lol) sucks a bit. Also my dad had nothing to say when he heard me tell my mum that alcohol is worse for you (i used to drink like an alcoholic, but gave up, and have been drunk a hell of a lot less now, i used to drink every day, now i'd be lucky to even have one bottle of beer in a week, so i cut down loads on that) and so he must know that it isn't as bad as my mum thinks.. Maybe because he used to smoke cigs, and probably weed back in the day, but has never admitted to it (i saw a pic of him with a fag in his mouth and my mum explained that he used to smoke, but stopped when my older brother was born, well concieved lol)

[BlueCat]

maybe you could print off a few facts for her.....I don't know which sites to go to in GB but the info is the same.....

There is no evidence that smoking marijuana leads to the use of harder drugs. In the first place, it is chemically illogical that the consumption of any drug could give someone the craving for another drug they have never had.

When the Marihuana Tax Act was first passed in 1937, Harry Anslinger, then head of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics testified before Congress and was asked specifically if there was any association between the use of marijuana and the use of harder drugs. He replied specifically that there was no such connection and that the users of the different types of drugs commonly did not associate with each other.

This myth arose in the 1950's when it became apparent that the old motives for the law against marijuana would no longer be viable. It was then that Anslinger contradicted his earlier testimony and started saying that marijuana led to harder drugs. This change occurred most prominently in the hearings for the Boggs Act of 1951, after a series of doctors had just destroyed everything Harry Anslinger had said about marijuana in 1937.

For Harry Anslinger's testimony, see the hearings for the Marihuana Tax Act.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/taxact/taxact.htm

For a short discussion of the origins of the "gateway" myth and how it arose at the hearings for the Boggs Act see The History of the Drug Laws, a short speech by Professor Charles Whitebread, of USC Law School.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/whiteb1.htm

For a more complete discussion of some of these issues, please see The Myth of Marijuana's Gateway Effect by John P. Morgan, M.D. and Lynn Zimmer, Ph.D.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/basicfax.htm#q6

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/mjgate.htm


http://www.mpp.org/OR/news_8320.html

Addictiveness of Marijuana
vs. Five
Commonly Used Drugs

http://www.procon.org/AddictChart.htm

[ezjim]

all you can do is take it easy for a while dude and try and educate her a lil bit on the facts...but remember she is only doing what she believes is best for her kid..and that is somthing your just gonna have to deal with till you move out..if you really want to prove your point then try and make a improvement in your school grades this year and for gods sake stay the fuck away from any harder drugs...the only way we will ever prove to people that cannibis is safe ..is to work hard and become succesful productive caring members of our communitys ....

[Az.]

all you can do is take it easy for a while dude and try and educate her a lil bit on the facts...but remember she is only doing what she believes is best for her kid..and that is somthing your just gonna have to deal with till you move out..if you really want to prove your point then try and make a improvement in your school grades this year and for gods sake stay the fuck away from any harder drugs...the only way we will ever prove to people that cannibis is safe ..is to work hard and become succesful productive caring members of our communitys ....

^^
thats good!
...cant think of anything else to say...

[GHoSToKeR]

3 Sheets To The Wind, you need to learn some fucking respect before you start bitching about other people.

[andy704]

hey you cant totally blame it on her. she just doesnt want you to be smoking weed and mess up your life. i know she thinks that cuz shes not totally educated on it, but still. try to do whatever to get her to understand cannabis. but its not really helping if youre just gonna call her a stupid bitch. shes just watching out for you

[3 Sheets To The Wind]

She threatened me with trouble if i did it again, and thanks a lot to ya'll for the info, and Bluecat if it comes up again, i'll show them all those facts and figures, thanks:D
I really want them to understand, as i'm not quitting for anything, if they tried to test me, i'd refuse as there's no way to physically make me piss in a cup:)
Thanks again, friends:D

[mellow mood]

LOL HEROIN OD.

sorry man i think im gonna laugh bout your mom for few days.

hahahahaha shes only tryin to protect you son. damn parents eh?

[Beeblebrox.420]

There is no evidence that smoking marijuana leads to the use of harder drugs. In the first place, it is chemically illogical that the consumption of any drug could give someone the craving for another drug they have never had. This is somewhat inaccurate and misleading. While is true that the majority of people who start off using marijuana do not go on to become users of harder drugs like heroin or cocaine, the vast majority of people who are regular users of harder drugs did start with marijuana. Thus, there is at least some evidence that marijuana use can lead to the use of harder drugs, but it is by no means a given that this will occur. It's not that the use of one drug magically creates a chemical craving for another, it's that once the natural initial reluctance to try drugs has been broken with the introduction of the rather pleasant and benign experience of marijuana, it becomes easier for the individual to experiment further with other drugs.

[mellow mood]

lets what i would say to her: 50% of the world population smoke marijuana, 0,01% take heroin.

[dokowitz4carbowski]

i dont think all the research in the world is going to change her mind! thats just her opinion and shes looking out for you. Just carry on as you are and show her rather than tell her that you can still lead a normal but chilled life! you have my sympathies though, dont get wound up :)

[koshea]

lol i say you buy nulliffic a plane tickett to come give a lecture or 2 to your parents

[heyman]

...the only way we will ever prove to people that cannibis is safe ..is to work hard and become succesful productive caring members of our communitys ....

Very well said!!!

3 Sheets To The Wind sorry to hear that man....This Article (http://www.world-mysteries.com/marijuana1.htm) is also a really good read...remember man you can't just start popping facts at them...you gotta be patient...

I saw this documentry a while ago....it was called "grass" and if you could get your mom to see that i'm sure that would change her views a little....

but neways i'm stoned off my ass at the moment and can't think of anything else...
best of luck to you...

[Beeblebrox.420]

lets what i would say to her: 50% of the world population smoke marijuana, 0,01% take heroin. Not even close. According to various sources, the number of Americans who regularly smoke marijuana varies between about 15 and 20 million, mostly depending on the definition of "regular user". Given that the current US population is about 270 million, this works out to between 5.5 to 7.4 percent of the total population who are regular users. Obtaining worldwide figures is more problematic, but I can see no reason why we cannot extrapolate the US figure to a good first-order approximation. I don't know what the percentage of regular heroin users is, but no doubt you are correct that it is considerably lower than the figure for marijuana use.

[xNoa]

damn i would of expected something like that from the typical anti-depressant american mother but not someone living in england
i mean the shits basically legal here now
dont let it get to u, what i'd tell my mum if she reacted like that (which she didnt) is that its the ignorance of people like yourself that would progress smokers onto heroin, if she ever threatens to kick you out for smoking you just gotta be like you think thats gonna help me?
and i hate all that gateway business, of COURSE heroin users will smoke weed and most likely started with it, if you're stupid enough to inject poison into yourself you're not going to be against smoking a natural plant...

[ScarlettCrush]

print out some of the info bluecat posted and mix it in with the other bathroom reading materials. That's some good stuff.

[Lily420]

hey 3 sheets! Im sorry thats happened to you man...i think you should make sure no ones going to be home for a long while before you smoke up. No way you'd get cuaght unless someone suprisingly comes home earliy. I wish you luck with trying to get your mom to be okay with smoking weed. her info sounds like it came from a really close minded person that never smoked.

Remember dont get your friends mum involved because that could become a big mistake.

[Killa.Kali]

sorry to hear that your mom is such a bitch :( my mom was too =\ i just got her to loosen up about a year ago, cuz she realizes that the way i run my life works, i can smoke all i want and still be upbeat enough to pass all my tests and have a future =\ the people who fall into addiction (as a whole) give every drug a bad name and make people think "oh weed makes you a loser heroin addict" well its true SOMETIMES but usually not =\

[mono repin]

Not even close. According to various sources, the number of Americans who regularly smoke marijuana varies between about 15 and 20 million, mostly depending on the definition of "regular user". Given that the current US population is about 270 million, this works out to between 5.5 to 7.4 percent of the total population who are regular users. Obtaining worldwide figures is more problematic, but I can see no reason why we cannot extrapolate the US figure to a good first-order approximation. I don't know what the percentage of regular heroin users is, but no doubt you are correct that it is considerably lower than the figure for marijuana use.

I think those numbers were meant to be % who have tried either drug. Though they were still probobly estimations. The point being that a significant portion of at least the U.S. population has tried marijuana with no fatalities.

[Killa.Kali]

fuck numbers just use general statements - A large part of the human population uses Cannabis recreationaly, and many of them are fully functional pieces of society

[Beeblebrox.420]

Well, I took the phrase "use marijuana" to mean regular and ongoing use. If it's the percentage of people who have merely tried the drug you are interested in, then it's closer to 30% of the US population - approximately one in three.

[mono repin]

Beeble, do you have %'s of high school students who have tried and/or regularly use marijuana. I tried googling, but I seem to be a bit off today. I remember the numbers being 60% of seniors had tried, and 40% had smoked in the last year, but I don't trust my memory.

[Killa.Kali]

i would say those numbers are about right =\ at my high school there was only a small pop. of people who didnt like stoners, most were "casual users" aka people who smoke at parties

[mono repin]

Well you have to consider the fact that your school may not be near the "average."

[Killa.Kali]

true lol my towns pretty small, and its red-neck as it gets =\ one of a handful of schools in cali where you can learn to raise a farm animal and sell it to a butcher haha and my last year there was only 6 black kids in the whole town haha

[Beeblebrox.420]

There is a nice set of tables here (http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/HSYouthtrends.html). The data appears reliable. It seems that among 12th-graders, approximately 45.7% have tried the drug at least once in their lives, 19.9% smoke about once per month and about 5.6% are regular daily users for the period 2001 to 2004, down slightly from previous years.

[robert42]

1 word....

SHOTGUN

[Beeblebrox.420]

It's also interesting to not that while the percentage of high school students who have tried marijuana is higher than the general population (nearly half as opposed to a third) as a whole, the percentage of regular high-school users is actually lower. Make of that what you will.

[mono repin]

It's also interesting to not that while the percentage of high school students who have tried marijuana is higher than the general population (nearly half as opposed to a third) as a whole, the percentage of regular high-school users is actually lower. Make of that what you will.

Thanks for the link, those were the exact ones I was looking for. Sure enough memory way off...

I assume you meant *note*

I think it means high school students are finding their way in life figuring out who they are. Lots of experimenting in general happens in high school. Also money is no doubt a larger issue with a 16 y.o. who at best can have a part time job during school. If they have any expenses the money left for recreational drug use is rather limited. Obviously there are still plenty who make it work one way or another, but I sure as hell know I couldn't afford to smoke every day in high school if I wanted to...

[OzzyOz]

true lol my towns pretty small, and its red-neck as it gets =\ one of a handful of schools in cali where you can learn to raise a farm animal and sell it to a butcher haha and my last year there was only 6 black kids in the whole town haha

woah
you live in riverside
i'm in c-mont :)
but only 6 black kids... hmm

in riverside, lots of people smoke weed though. Actually, everywhere in cali people toke :-)

at our school, my town is umm... full of overprotective mothers.
i know kids who arn't allowed to see pg-13 movies till they turn 13, and arn't allowed to hangout afterschool on weekdays ... blah blah blah

my towns kind of full of stuck up rich people, well at least half of my town is. With rich people comes drug problems... especially alcahol lol

[mono repin]

true lol my towns pretty small, and its red-neck as it gets =\ one of a handful of schools in cali where you can learn to raise a farm animal and sell it to a butcher haha and my last year there was only 6 black kids in the whole town haha

My high school had 2 black kids and 1 puerto rican in a school of around 1500. Imagine the shock. I moved away from a middle school where 65% of the students were black. Needless to say the racism was pretty bad in high school.

[tylerkane]

Only one thing to do bro, finish her off, do us a favors.
Tell her Anna Nicole Smith is a heroin addict, and look at her now!

[Killa.Kali]

woah
you live in riverside
i'm in c-mont :)
but only 6 black kids... hmm

I live in Riverside county, the city i live in is Norco (north corona) and now its a lot diff, they actually had a small 'race riot' the year after i left because a lot more black people moving in =\ this town is fucking weird...anyone whos been here knows what i mean, its like a little hick ass country town in the middle of gang-banger-ville. and ya there was only 6 black kids there when i left :D

[Cannabis.com]

We also operate Drug Abuse Help at http://www.drugabusehelp.com/

There are many former/current heroin addicts who post there - one thing many of them would agree on is that cannabis was NOT the drug that led them to heroin ... more often than not it was prescription drugs, alcohol, etc that did.

Anyways, feel free to direct your parents over to http://www.drugabusehelp.com/

Your post reminds me of another thing that needs to be added at cann.com - a parents/family topic area ... not sure what it should be called, but basically an area for discussion of parental/family matters relating to cannabis.

Ron

[Killa.Kali]

call it the Blood Line forum lol

[mono repin]

"Family Affairs"

[3 Sheets To The Wind]

Oh shit yeah, i got a new "area" put onto the site:D *woo* lol
Thanks for the help all of you, and Ghost, man i was angry yesterday and i can't remember what you wrote but.. my bad.