HB Woodrose Highest Safe Dose

[ADaisyChain]

The subject is self-explanitory. What is the highest safe dose of hawaiin baby woodrose seeds? Not necessarily.. safe.. but at least not typically dangerous. Im sure you get the idea.

Im looking to reach the edge of insanity, and Im wondering if I can do it on these without poisoning my body.

I would do a cold water extraction, but that only gets 50% of the lsa out of the seeds, and I often prefer quantity over quality.

I've taken 14 of the seeds without shaving them before, and had an intense trip. Tracers and wonderfulness were everywhere. Nausea hit me like a brick though.

Even if you aren't sure what's safe or not, what's the highest dose you've taken of em?

[stothelutz]

Fuck babywoodrose me and my friend ate 15 each last night and it didnt do anything but make my chest and neck hurt all day.

[LilG716]

i took 10 of them and had an insane 15 hour trip

second time i took them i was puking for 5 hours str8 worst night ever

[dark0ne]

why not mix them with some good booze, everclear, or absolute. put a whole shitload ground up in there, and leave it for a week. then mix a shot or 2 with fruit juice. if you only need 10-15 put like 30 of them in there, so it will be strong enugh.

[ADaisyChain]

Darkone: I would do the extraction, and just use twice as many seeds, but I don't have that many seeds, but I'd rather have 3 trips, then one big trip. That's what I meant by preferring quantity over quality.

totheslutz: It's very possible you just got bunk seeds. It's happened to me before. 2/3 times I've purchased from iamshaman.com the seeds were pure bunk. So, uhh, don't buy from there. Bouncingbearbotanicals has had quality seeds each times I and my friends have purchased from them.

lilg: How much do you weigh?

Nick: HB's have a chemican in their shell and sometimes within the seed that breaks down into cyanide in your body. I don't believe that morning glories do.



Anyone taken 20 well shaved hb's before? I've only found one trip report of 20 seeds on erowid. I'll write a trip report and post it in this thread after I try it next friday. If my last post is before next friday, that means that 20 seeds is not a safe dose, and that I have died. -laughs- Kidding. I can't die.

[ADaisyChain]

i dont know what your lookin to trip off of, because its LSA that makes you trip, and tomy knowledge its somethin like a MG seed is >0.01% LSA, and a HB Woodrose seed is around 0.07% LSA, so there the same just different means of gettin it into you, o and you take the shell off of HB woodrose seeds before eating

I'm looking to trip off of HB's, as I've already said. -laughs- Specifically, the LSA inside of them. I recognize that's what makes you trip, but that doesn't change the fact that there are cyanogenic glycosides which your body turns into miniscule amounts of cyanide in the husk and sometimes within the seeds. The same goes for apple seeds and hundreds of other plants and their seeds. That's why the shell is scraped, or sometimes removed. Removing the shell entirely doesn't seem like it would work that well since you would only be eating the sprout, but I may experiment at some point or another with it.

And according to erowid, the alkaloid content of HB's is 15-30x higher then that of mg's. 30x higher then heavenly blues, 15x higher then pearly gates.

Thanks for the removing the entire shell idea though. I think I'll definately try that at some point.

[Firebrand]

would anyone write perhaps a preperation guide for HBW seeds to have a good trip w/o any nausea orvomiting plz

[firsttimefarmer]

Its all there, I never need to tak e more then 8-10 and I've only ever had slight neausea, and wobbly legs a couple of tmes

[420mory]

Well wat I heard is that boiling something that has LSA in it is a bad thing. The molecule is very unstable at high temperatures. I am still very curious if the apolair extraction of the seeds gives any positive effect. I find so many stuff on the internet that is either really praising the extraction or just putting it down. I almost feel like its my own responsibility to find out if it really works.

Still I would rather take some LSD but that is always more difficult to obtain.

[skarz]

Just make sure you scrape off the outer shell/fuzz to reduce nausea ;)! Iamshaman's seeds suck, don't buy from them! They have amazing products but HBW seeds are one of the only things that aren't good to buy from them. It's hard to find a good source for them because a lot of places seem to have bunk seeds.

[harmonicminor]

the Indian strain doesnt work
they look the same exept they dont have the fuzz on them.