early sexin..

[potlox]

Ok well I have a 3 part system.
One half of my closet is clones and the other half is mothers.
I have a 8000 lumen new wave t5 for 2 mothers and a 4000 lumen for the clones.

The my other closet is the flowering room wich runs a 400watt hps.

Anyways. I was growing my mother Grand daddy Purple and it was in the early stages so i had cool light on it with the little t5 wich is 4000 lumens.

It got too big for the light and it started devouring all the space in the closet trying to suck up all the lumens away from the other plants that were in there with it. SO that is when i bought the bigger version of the light.
A week later i cloned it about 4 times and used the little light for the clones.
However about a week after i put the new light on the plant was about 2 months old just loving life in the veggie stage.

pistils were coming out at the nodes all over the plant even though i was in 18-6 light schedule... i thought it wasnt possible to sex the plant until you change the light?? is this not true? anyways im not worried about it cuase now that Purple People Eater is budding in its lonesome with a 400watt in a dripp system. Its F***ing huge. And all the little gdaddy clones are thriving. But my question is..............

Is pistils normal even if you are in the veggi stage??
If not is it possible for me to expect this from any other plants that i might have switched the light on from cool to warm?? or like... Dam i love my babies they are pretty, i will post some pics sometime soon. THanks.

[cyberbud]

Im no pro but i have been growin on and off for a few years, so 1 thing i can tell you is no you dont need to switch the light cycle to start pistils growin. I always see pistils in veg wen the plants a foot or 2 big,, depends which breed you have i guess to what size they start showing at.

[potlox]

yeah i guess that makes a lil more sense than what im thinkin.. But i was stoned as shit trippin on it ahahah. But i guess i thought the only way to tell the plant's sex was clone it and then flower it, or just flower it in general.


anywways.. here is my beloved purple.. she is flowering :)

[potlox]

errr the first pics are the veggie closet, then the flowering ones are the flowering closet...heh, about 10 days 12/12.. Any suggestions other than c02 water and dispenser for making my nugs really big n dank??

[gronnh20]

[QUOTE=potlox]Is pistils normal even if you are in the veggi stage??
QUOTE]

They are preflowers. Most plants will get them around the 5th to 6th internode or about a month into vegging. You're lucky it could have been balls.

[potlox]

these pics are at about 15-16 days, cant rremeber exactly.. the camera just doesnt do justice...Grandaddy Purple. once again... what is the best thing to do to ensure a huge six week explosion...what is the best flower enhancer i could use if i already use the 3 part flora system?

[Stormcooker]

use General Hydroponics "Floraliscious". It's compatible with the 3-part system and they publish how much to use and when along with the 3-part. I use Hygrozyme too, it's a root treatment ensuring the best regeneration of root matter, and utilization of old root matter. Be careful though, don't fix anything that's not broken. The introduction of organics and root stimulants to your chemical nutrient resevoir can turn things on a dime if you don't watch it (pH levels for instance), but they have magic shit in to make the plants grow to their potential.

General Hyfroponics has tested and true nutrient regimes including their own supplements and foliar spray. Although GH is not crop specific to marijuana like Canna Nutrients or other big dogs, I would venture to say that it has what it takes to do the job. If you read a lot on this message board, you will get some great advice.
ALso, there are 4 or 5 "recipes" you can use just using your 3-part system that are different then the bottle suggests. These recipes are tried and true for marijuanja such as the "Lucas Formula". Do a search on the message board for "Lucas formula" and you will probably get the page with 5 links to 5 different ways to use the 3-part for growing your own.

If you can't find it, then just ask Zandor.

Peace out homey

[potlox]

So just by going to the lucas formula i need no other bloom enhancers?

And also, if i havnt been following the lucas formula, but the suggestions on the chart, can i just start using the lucas formula or is that gonna stress my babes?

[Stormcooker]

So just by going to the lucas formula i need no other bloom enhancers?

And also, if i havnt been following the lucas formula, but the suggestions on the chart, can i just start using the lucas formula or is that gonna stress my babes?

I'm not sure if you are using the three part system according to the bottle or the nutrient feeding chart as posted on their website. The one on the website tells what supplements to use and when. The GH supplements contain things that the 3-part does not provide. I would guess that the Lucas formula or similar has the right levels of stuff you need for growing pot if you were just using the 3-part and nothing else. It's your decision as to where you want to go from here. I would switch to one of those recipes now, while your plants are young, if you aren't going to use supplements for this grow. If you want to start getting into Floraliscious, Diamond Nectar, Florasheild (All by GH), I would stick to the chart on the website. At least we know those "official" feeding mixes they instruct you to use are tried and true. I don't like to take risks, especially when It's a 3.5 month project. A prescribed method is good enough for me. I'm prescribing to the FloraNova feeding chart to the exact mililiter, with 3 more non-GH supplements. It's a lot of stuff to have (about 9 different quarts of stuff all about $20 US average.) Like anyhthing else though, the more you put into it, the more you get out. Don't think though that with all that stuff it makes it any easier, on the contrary, I keep a very close watch on things. I just like the security of knowing I've given it my best.

[latewood]

use General Hydroponics "Floraliscious". It's compatible with the 3-part system and they publish how much to use and when along with the 3-part. I use Hygrozyme too, it's a root treatment ensuring the best regeneration of root matter, and utilization of old root matter. Be careful though, don't fix anything that's not broken. The introduction of organics and root stimulants to your chemical nutrient resevoir can turn things on a dime if you don't watch it (pH levels for instance), but they have magic shit in to make the plants grow to their potential.

General Hyfroponics has tested and true nutrient regimes including their own supplements and foliar spray. Although GH is not crop specific to marijuana like Canna Nutrients or other big dogs, I would venture to say that it has what it takes to do the job. If you read a lot on this message board, you will get some great advice.
ALso, there are 4 or 5 "recipes" you can use just using your 3-part system that are different then the bottle suggests. These recipes are tried and true for marijuanja such as the "Lucas Formula". Do a search on the message board for "Lucas formula" and you will probably get the page with 5 links to 5 different ways to use the 3-part for growing your own.

If you can't find it, then just ask Zandor.

Peace out homeyanother great additive that would compliment your growwould be the addition of liquid karma, It has fulvic and humic acids as well as alot of other beneficial organics you could just add this to keep it simple...go read about it, Botanicare makes it, or you can stick with GH products...I think Zandor uses B1 and calmag+...just a couple of suggestions.

[potlox]

Yeah thanks yo, suggestions is what i need. This is only my second time actually flowering a plant and i couldnt be happier, i have read alot about it so it is turning out nicely. check out these new pics. 20 days of flowering.

all the same plant, a few of the pics were with the light off.

[potlox]

Um.. zandor, or latewood, or anyone that knows..

What does it mean in the flowering stage if the leave coming from the nug start turning yellow. And the big fan leaves portruding from the nugs are all dyeing off ina yellow color. PH is 5.5 - 6. PPM is 1400 with 3 part system. Wich is what the chart says is ok. ANything i might be doing wrong or need to be doing so the leaves dont curl and droop and change color. Anyways. I took this pics with the light off, cuase right when i got home the fucking light went out. Perfect timing eh?

[Zandor]

Yellow during flower cycle is tricky to deal with. Most of the time you compare the leaves around the one in question. If the others leaveâ??s are fine and the plant looks fine then there is no problem. The plant will use up some leaves and they will turn yellow. Just pick them off and don't worry it natural.

At that stage you really judge the plant as a whole and not by individual leaves just watch new growth and see how they look. I don't mean to wait to long to act if there is a problem just don't over react.

[potlox]

Well yeah, its only a few leafs, but it is like on every nog..
Plus on like one of the big buds that are grwing, the tiny leaves coming out of it are yellow. I have pretty much dismissed that it is going to be a problem untill i saw the little ones turning yellow out of the buds, gettting me worried...

[Zandor]

do a good flush then and go back to a full NPK mix for a session or two. You should see a change in about 48 hours or so in Hydro.

[potlox]

Im thinking that it could be the roots are too big for the pot. I didnt have the biggest pot for how big the plant was. So i transplanted it into a bigger bucket so the roots can expand more. Could the plants have been getting dehydrated becuase of the smaller pot? And a side note... i clip my mothers alot. Is it true that the more you clip them then they can become hermaphrodite easier? or is that myth?

[Zandor]

Im thinking that it could be the roots are too big for the pot. I didnt have the biggest pot for how big the plant was. So i transplanted it into a bigger bucket so the roots can expand more. Could the plants have been getting dehydrated becuase of the smaller pot? And a side note... i clip my mothers alot. Is it true that the more you clip them then they can become hermaphrodite easier? or is that myth?
Depends on your description of "clip then a lot" each time you clip you are stressing the plant. If you cut it up to bad then yes you can shock the plant and it can turn hermie. More if the temperature gets out of hand. You need to leave plenty of green leaves left on mother to help keep her from shocking and each time you clip her she needs a good healthy feeding full NPK with B1. You don't need superthrive or anything like that your roots are fine you need to give mother a good dinner to say thank you.

[potlox]

Ok so these are the plants, 30 days in the flowering. A fulll month. Thanks zandor for the advice, my plant is looking nicer, however it does seem to be turning orange a little quicker.

And on another not. I recieved the seed of this plant in an 1/8th that i obtained from the medical marijuana dispensary. AThe pot was named "grandaddy purple" and there was purple leaves all over the bud. I got 3 seeds from the sac and 2 sprouted into plants. This plant has been flowering for 30 days and it is not purple at all. Yet the other seed from the very same sack has fan leaves turning really purple in the veg stage. My question is how come the grandaddy purple that i smoked had purple all over it, but the buds that im growing are not turning purple?

[potlox]

About to harvest in about two-three days. Just wanted to share an update of the plant, and thank everyone for their help. i will also post some pics of the end product, but here is grandaddy purple a few days from harvest.