Hardonna update...

[likemclever]

wow,.....the difference is night and day from when you posted them last.....I hope your pleased with them...you should be... :) :) :)

[9ski9]

Thanks, Clever...I have four girls left sharing a 400w HPS and eight CFL's. They seem pretty much on auto-pilot (well, unless HD gives me a project). I've tied some fan leaves, but the secondaries have all grown up out of the canopy.

I was pretty bummed about the SOG, HD, but your new project looks awesome. I like the idea of tying twice a day and being hands on like that.

Oh, well, back to my fucked up day.

[HARDDON]

Yea its a whole nuther life in flower isnt it?

Like....wow....I have so much time on my hands.

Bummer bout your fucked up day my man. You need them though to appreciate the good days :)

Usually when your day is fucked up, its a brain signal that you aren't doing something you are supposed to be doing. :D

Get busy....

With whatever it is :)

[likemclever]

very true.

[9ski9]

You need them though to appreciate the good days

Ha, thanks, almost as good as a shot of Superthrive. Eh, figuratively, of course...although I find myself compelled to sniff my fingers afterwards.

Sleep....

[DaBuh]

OMG if i could just get a plant to look half that good i would be in heaven, gd parents, cant wait till i move out...... they going pretty harsh on me for only finding one plant, almost worse then the cops woulda been..... sorry to hear ur day hasnt been going good but dont lets ur plants know or they will frown and not look as good :rolleyes: hang in there, ur closer to the finish line then i got

[9ski9]

Thanks, DaBuh...I could never have pulled off growing in my folks home. Even now, we have to burn scented candles and incense when we have a babysitter. It's probably a better idea for you to wait 'til your out, anyway...all that stress worrying about being nabbed takes it's toll. And you need a place where you can really hang out and spend lots of time with them. You've gotten a pretty good idea how attached you can become to a plant. In fact, I like my plants more than my dog.

This is only my second grow and I can't imagine not having a current grow---like I'd be wasting days something should be growing.

Well, good luck and stay away from those cops---the cops really are worse than parents.

[DaBuh]

well this is the second time i have read through the entire epic adventure of harddonna. it was a great read and once agian i learned even more, maybe the third time will make time reverse and turn it female then go back further and make my parents understand im not going to give up weed, nor growing as soon as i have my own place. They kinda bugged my computer or something and found out i was still researching on growing and everything like that so they ripped on me about it. how do ya make some 1 understand researching is awsome when its something your so intrested in that you have a obsession for it lol. i dont think they know of me on this site so no worries to you guys (as if they could do anything anyway).

[likemclever]

You could always grow tulips�� :) .......jk.

[9ski9]

The best lie also has some truth to it. I grow cherry tomatoes in my closet---sort of-- and my 5-year-old picks and eats them. Of course, they are from a container in the frig and only scattered around the MJ plant pots once a week.

There's no way to hide a grow room from a 5-year-old, so I adapted and she's even shared cherry tomatoes with her grampa.

Hmmm, why did I bring this up? Oh, well, why not consider plants other than pot? Just start growing something because you dig making things come to life? It might even lessen their anger about you be caught recently. Think about it: a teenage guy thinks growing plants is cool...but he's still a teenage guy, so what does he grow? Something his buddies would think was cool or funny. He's not setting out to be a freakin' drug addict. Maybe your choices in video games freak them out, too, eh? But you aren't gonna start carjacking anybody for real.

Maybe they catch you with a tulip bulb?

"Son, what kind of drug is this?"
"It's a tulip bulb, Dad."
"Please, son, we're trying very hard."
"I'm sorry you don't trust me, Dad. I just wish you'd understand that I think making things come alive gives me hope in my own life."

Stelth, my man, stelth.

The pot plants go in back...

[9ski9]

You could always grow tulips�� :) .......jk.

Holy crap, that just freaked me out, Clever :eek:

[likemclever]

OMFG.....ski

I think we just mentally collided.......
:eek:

Thatâ??s sweet about the tomatoes.....I have a almost five year old girl....no way could I hide it from her....

[likemclever]

that still freaks me out about the tulips.....

all I know is after I read his post I giggled inside because I saw an image of a yellow tulip...thats why I said that.....wow....

[DaBuh]

well actully i have a bonsai tree now and been taking very good care of it, ordered it after they found Epstine. the one thing i dont like about bonsai are that they are very slow.

Tomatos or something to that affect would be very funny if it were found, they would send me to a therapist instead of a rehab center lmao (no they arent really sending me to one)

I might look into some other plants, maybe on saturday, school and work tomorrow are going to keep me very busy. Tulips sound like a good idea tho, they are a weed also so they must grow very easily and fast. But i would rather grow something that will give me a physical production along with a metal pride in caring for something full grown and healthy.

ohh and 9ski how did ya know im stuck on beating old people after i pull them out of the car in grand theft auto san andreas??!?!?!

i dont know how the organization of this post was cuz imma teeny bit stoned out of my mind so bear with me here :D

[DaBuh]

i just remebered my mom is crazy about tulips hahaha, my dad gets them for her every chance he gets. do they grow well under the same relative conditions as MJ?

this whole tulip thing is a lil wierd.....

[9ski9]

I figure I better make the most of my next three or four grows, since that'll be it for a while because of her. She's dropped some wild flower seeds in small pots and is growing her own with my current crop. The novelty wore off, so it's no big deal that our closet looks like the sun until 8pm every night. I just had to make it a 100% foolproof that she could tell a teacher that she picked and ate what Dad was growing in the closet. Man, busted by a kindergarten teacher might slightly alter my neighbor's view of me.

[likemclever]

Thats a totaly great story. It's good to see that there are still people out there who are good parents.

[9ski9]

I might look into some other plants, maybe on saturday, school and work tomorrow are going to keep me very busy. Tulips sound like a good idea tho, they are a weed also so they must grow very easily and fast. But i would rather grow something that will give me a physical production along with a metal pride in caring for something full grown and healthy.

ohh and 9ski how did ya know im stuck on beating old people after i pull them out of the car in grand theft auto san andreas??!?!?!


I don't know anything about tulips except that they are mostly perennial bulbs that you stick in the ground and forget about until early spring. Probably not an ideal cover plant for your new hobby...tulips just sound funny. Like it's a happy, gay, unstoner flower.

I actually picked up a tomato plant seedling and kept it in my grow room for her to water because they look a bit like MJ. Another way I was covering my ass.

Now go beat some more old people.

[DaBuh]

my little locker is to small for more then 1 plant unless its like 2 lowrider's so there isnt anyway i can hide a MJ plant nearby(plus they'd prolly rummage through the entire growing space i had for even a sprout of MJ, if i had a big enough space) ohh well im just gonna wait until i can convince my friend i could grow in his apt and no one would find out (hard tho he recently gave up MJ)

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 18 update...

My four girls under a 400w HPS and a scattering of eight CFL's. It looks cramped, but isn't really. All are mostly indica, but each plant looks very different. About 42 days to some serious trich watching. They had some cactus juice a few days ago and I suppose I'll give them another shot in about 10 days.

Any opinions on when to stop misting? They've seemed to love it since they were little babies.

[HARDDON]

9ski9...

I love your updates :)

One thing..you are wasting use of your CFL's by having them near the top canopy like that. Your HPS will power thru those areas. They just create unneeded heat and cast shadows when they are that high.

Lower them. All the CFL's will really do is PREVENT mass defoilaging which is a good thing for the health of the plant.

But being that high, isnt really doing anything to benefit your environment.

I would lower them ASAP...or turn them off. :)

Looking good my friend :) You have done a really nice job....

[9ski9]

9ski9...

One thing..you are wasting use of your CFL's by having them near the top canopy like that. Your HPS will power thru those areas. They just create unneeded heat and cast shadows when they are that high.

Lower them. All the CFL's will really do is PREVENT mass defoilaging which is a good thing for the health of the plant.
I would lower them ASAP...or turn them off. :)


Ha, thanks, you answered a question I never asked: why I had so few dead fan leaves. I've followed lots of grows and wondered why mine where hanging in there so long. I mean, not saying I'm doing better than those---I'm certainly not--- just wondered why my girls were a little different.

I'll kill a couple CFL's and lower the rest.

Thanks, HD...if you ever put together a "World According to HD" grow book, I'd buy one.

[SeedKing72]

Those bitches are looking good. I hope my PUNTAS look like that!

[9ski9]

Thanks, Seed, we'll be watching your work...

[HARDDON]

OOOPS :)

I spoke in a manner that would lead you to believe a mass defoilage is good for the plants.

Its not....

I meant to say keeping from defoilaging is a good thing :)

Anyhow, kill the up top lights or move them below. Just didnt want you to encoureage deforestation based on my earlier response.

Thanks...I'll give you a copy as I have learned from your grow :)

[DaBuh]

Lookin mighty tasty, hows the smell? ohh please hows it smell, i want every small detail of how the scent slowly rushes to your nose then makes it tingle with delight.......... i think im addicted to MJ, gd growing...

[9ski9]

No oops, HD, it read right. Or at least I just assumed you were saying "live" leaves were a good thing, although lower fans will die as the plant matures.

In any case, the remaining CFL's are lowered.

The smell, DaBuh? Hmmm, the smell you ask...when you first open my kitchen door an unmistakeable wall of skunky, pot smell waps you pretty hard. If you were to take a well used water bong and smash it in the Acme produce department, you'd know what my kitchen smells like. But then you walk upstairs toward the grow closet and you start picking out individual smells, like the unique tangy odor of Superthrive...then you get the musky aroma of bat guano, which reminds me of my grandma's horse barn...there's a little vinegar smell and a little taste of warm soil. It smells like life, DaBuh...life.

And HD's gonna comp me a book!!!

[likemclever]

What a very excellent description ski...

I know exactly what your house smells like.....

For a second there i thought I even saw it...

[DaBuh]

good visuals all except for the bat poop......
haha thanks

[9ski9]

What a very excellent description ski...
I know exactly what your house smells like.....
For a second there i thought I even saw it...

:rolleyes: Well, I wanna few quotes when HD gets around to his book...


And don't be dissin' the bat poop, DaBuh, you'll one day come to love the golden beauty of the tea it makes for your future girls. When you swirl it around in the bottle and little pieces of poop seem to chase one another...magic! ;)

[likemclever]

Hard, sweet heart.....I'm looking for a little advice....could you check your e-mail...

[DaBuh]

just and FYI super thrive is only 4$ at walmart for 4ox bottle, picked 2 up today for what ever i decid to grow, fed it to my bonsai tree to :)

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 19 update...

Kind of an interesting stage as the bud sites have started to grow really fast. The main kolas, as well as the strongest secondaries, are starting to clump with hairs. Hopefully they'll keep this up and form huge buds as they grow together.

It shows the absolute importance of tying and tucking fan leaves and getting the secondaries exposed to light early in veg. Done right, I'm sure you can easily have 10 bud sites that are similar in mass to a typical main kola. Secondary stems can apparently be grown that are nearly as fat and supportive as the main stem.

I know this is all 101 basic stuff to the pros, but it's really cool to see it happening first hand.

Here are a few bud pics:

[DaBuh]

so pretty so very pretty

[HARDDON]

You are so correct and its a shame your grow thread has so many non related posts that detract from the importance of what you experienced.

It might make people not wanna read.

I will tell MB to cut down on the non tomato growing convo :)

When you are finished, it would be sweet to rewrite a post and show the pics of everything and the stages in maybe 2 or 3 pages instead of ...12 now...and what will prolly wind up at 20 :)

NO buds will come close to the main kolas you have growing in terms of size or girth...but you will see a lot more to harvest as a result.

And yes, you are correct in that veg stage is so important as it really sets the frame work for the flower period.

Most excellent grow there 9ski......

You arent gonna beat up your dad are you :D

[likemclever]

Apologies all aroundâ?¦..

[HARDDON]

OH please ms. sting lover :)

We all fucked this thread :) And I arent gonna say i am sorry :D

Nothing wrong with a love fest amongst tomato smokers now is there?????

[AngryJohnny]

Here is how you slow down a thread. let me post. :D
everyone shuts up then.... :(


when I smoke the tomato's my hands n lips get red ?!?! :eek:

[9ski9]

You arent gonna beat up your dad are you :D

Nah, he's old, broken and retired to the Sunshine state. But was saves his ass and gets us on an occasional airplane for non-violent visits is his immense aquired wealth and my lack of siblings.

It's true that this thread took some detours, but it made me feel like people were paying some attention and helped motivate me even after the tragic death of Hardonna. And having Clever popping in and chatting a bit, for instance, was like having music in the background while you work. I wouldn't want it another way.

[likemclever]

thank you ski....very sweet of you. ;)

I like poping in ....let me know if you ever want to change the tune...

[9ski9]

Just a quick update on Flower Day 21...

The buds all continue to grow and clump together. Vertical growth seems to have slowed. I removed four of eight CFL's and now just have a couple low and couple behind the plants. They are all getting sticky to the touch, with a deeper smell to them.

[9ski9]

Harddon, a couple of questions if you get a chance to read this:

You cut nutes on Whore and Cunt after two weeks of flowering; is that what you'd do again?

And you cut back their water to create a dry environment after flower day 20; is that also what you'd do again?

And, holy crap, their pics blow me away every time I go back for info.

[HARDDON]

NO I cute nutes off at week four or 5 I think. I cut off the first brand of nutes I was using after 2 weeks...

Then I switched to Schultz Cactus....for the next 3 I think,,,so I cut nutes 3 weeks prior.

I also SuperThrived all the way thru.

Yes, I made them starve for water.....but the lava rock base enabled that. The rocks would maintain the moisture and leach into the soil....By the time the soil would be dry, so would all the rocks, the roots exposed into the rocks and all the soil from the top down would be totally dry.

Yes I would starve them for water again...make the fan leaves wilt in more precise terms.

I would change nothing and yes I would do it again. I couldnt have been happier with those parts of the grow. Many things I would change...but not those... :)

Thanks

[9ski9]

Awesome, thanks. They seem to really like the cactus juice. And the lava rock makes great sense. I'll use it for my next grow. I actually have about 30 lbs of lava rock illegaly collected from Volcanos National Park over the years. Funny that you aren't supposed to take lava out of the park; sort of like not taking dirt from Yosemite or water from the Atlantic. But I want to use it for the sentimental value of growing with something from cool trips. Next time I'm in Mexico, I'm loadin' up my carry-ons with bat guano.

[HARDDON]

No bat guano from mexico on a commercial aircraft!

And, always wear a mask when fucking with it :)

Make sure the lava rock is the red / rusty kind. The black rock is absent iron and some other shit I don't remember.

Also, its GREAT to take some rock and bash it with a hammer in a pillow case. It creats a lot of dust and that dust is wonderful mixed into the soil :)

Makes BIG BUDS in my opinion :)

Soak the red rock in proper water overnight before you use it for the first time....it penetrates millions of pores and won't dry out your grow from the first water.

[9ski9]

No bat guano from mexico on a commercial aircraft!

And, always wear a mask when fucking with it :)

Make sure the lava rock is the red / rusty kind. The black rock is absent iron and some other shit I don't remember.

Also, its GREAT to take some rock and bash it with a hammer in a pillow case. It creats a lot of dust and that dust is wonderful mixed into the soil :)

Makes BIG BUDS in my opinion :)

Soak the red rock in proper water overnight before you use it for the first time....it penetrates millions of pores and won't dry out your grow from the first water.

Bummer, only black lava from the Big Island. Red it will be. I have five weeks to get my shit together.

[chrislikesweeed]

hey, a bit off topic but ive been collecting crystals from my grinder for a while, and i now have a big ol pile and i was wondering what the best way to smoke crystals it? help!

[turtle420]

chrislikesweeed,

Go to overgrow.com... check out how to make Hash and Oils....

With all the keef you have, you could make hash... Quick answer? Rub the keef (crystals) against your hands until they start clumping together... that's hash.

Better answer? Overgrow.com

[HARDDON]

I too collect trichs from my grinder.

However there is never enuff for hash......plus its too wasteful to make hash.

The best way I have found to use the collected trichs is to vaporize them :)

Oh. Don't have a vaporizor?

Place them in a clean pipe...with a clean fresh screen. Light the OUTSIDE of the bowl or light the outside of the glass pipe with one of those crack lighters.

DOnt put the flame on the trichs....just the heat.

What a blast :)

[AngryJohnny]

here is a box used for breakdown.

this is good to add sprinkles to jays

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 22 update...

A hairy turn today...seems like most buds spent today growing lots of hairs. They had Schultz 1-7-6 Cactus Juice and Superthrive this morning; about 2 liters each. I'm done misting, I guess, to create a dry environment.

Aside from the CFL's, I bet all the high nitrogen bat guano has had quite a bit to do with the health and longevity of the fan leaves.

[SeedKing72]

Looking good! Looking good!!

[HARDDON]

Nothing wrong with misting. They dont exactly fulfill their water needs thru leaf absorbtion :)

Misting might even make the plant more resinous as it trys to protect the flower pods from anything that might interfere with the collection of pollen :)

Those leaves will help keep feeding her and feeding those buds.

They will almost double in size in the next week :)

Long way to go...but the hardest is behind you now.....

[9ski9]

Ahhhhh, cool, thanks, HD...back to misting mornings. IDK why, but i really like misting. I guess it just makes them seem green and alive.

[9ski9]

And, uh, about your signature, HD...you didn't have a close call with something, did you?

[HARDDON]

LOL....I just got paranoid with another post about all this safety shit.

FUck there needs to be a paranold thread so I can avoid it.

Besides, seems like the prudent thing to do since I am just a creative author :D

Fuck I couldnt grow mold in a wet blanket. :)

[9ski9]

Ah, got it. I used to be much more paranoid, but now my ex-wives live in far away states.

[likemclever]

Ahhhhh, cool, thanks, HD...back to misting mornings. IDK why, but i really like misting. I guess it just makes them seem green and alive.


ha ha ...I knew it...

When I got to that part about the misting in your last post.....I thought to myself.....he sounds kinda sad.. :( :(


Good to see that you can still primp them... :)

[9ski9]

You make me sound a little gay, Clever...you know something I don't?

Eh, not that there's anything wrong with that...

Back to my primping.

[HARDDON]

You make me sound a little gay, Clever...you know something I don't?

Eh, not that there's anything wrong with that...

No there is nothing wrong with being gay....if you happen to be female :D

If you're a dude and gay...man there be some serious problems in that fucking head...some serious problems.

How the fuck can one man look at another mans hairy ass and get a boner?????

HOW IN THE FUCK DOES THAT HAPPEN???????????? :confused: :confused:

[likemclever]

You make me sound a little gay, Clever...you know something I don't?

Eh, not that there's anything wrong with that...

Back to my primping.


I just think itâ??s funny to watch very grown, very manly men, be so very maternal. I think itâ??s sweeeeeeet.



No there is nothing wrong with being gay....if you happen to be female :D

If you're a dude and gay...man there be some serious problems in that fucking head...some serious problems.

How the fuck can one man look at another mans hairy ass and get a boner?????

HOW IN THE FUCK DOES THAT HAPPEN???????????? :confused: :confused:


Not all men have hairy asses â?¦â?¦Iâ??m mean not like gorilla hairy ass.



I never could get into girls��.its always been men for me.

I kissed a woman once about a year ago just to see what all the fuss was about��..and it did nothing for me��she was hot too.

But she did kiss better than her husband��:D

(Donâ??t read anything in to thatâ?¦..lol.)

[9ski9]

But if you are a girl...and say you're clothes shopping and accidentally wander into the Japanese Schoolgirl Uniform section...and another hot girl gets lost and ends up there, as well...
And nature takes it's course.
There's no shame involved.

[likemclever]

Yeah��and when we tell you that were going to the store�.were actually going next door and having a mass pillow fight (in our panties) with all the ladies from the neighborhood.


And I havenâ??t been ashamed of much in a whileâ?¦. ;)

[9ski9]

I kissed a woman once about a year ago just to see what all the fuss was about��..and it did nothing for me��she was hot too.
But she did kiss better than her husband��:D


But Clever forgot to turn on the video camera, right?

Clever, the next time you experiment, you gotta remember to REALLY EXPERIMENT.

[9ski9]

Yeah��and when we tell you that were going to the store�.were actually going next door and having a mass pillow fight (in our panties) with all the ladies from the neighborhood.


That's the spirit!

And you get really sweaty, too, right?

[likemclever]

lol..........She and her husband wanted to take me home......lol.

I didn't go..........lol......but I really did think about it......

Hey my middle name is experiment........although the little one has chilled me out quite a bit........proubaly a good thing.

[mono repin]

You can't tease and referance hair and then not show at least once close up :)

[likemclever]

Whos hair are you after mono...

(I don't have hair on my ass)

[AngryJohnny]

lol..........She and her husband wanted to take me home......lol.

I didn't go..........lol......but I really did think about it......

:D



ummmm
have hair on my ass.



PILLOW FIGHT! :cool:

[mono repin]

Whos hair are you after mono...

(I don't have hair on my ass)

Damn now I look gay...

The hairs on the plant... lets SEE them.

[9ski9]

Just some quick Flower Day 23 pics...

Hey, Mono, here's some hair (and I can attest that you are a very ungay kinda guy-not that there would be anything wrong with it):

[SeedKing72]

ha ha lol...I didnt mean to make you paranoid

[likemclever]

Just some quick Flower Day 23 pics...



Wow, beautiful��how much bigger are the buds going to get?

That fan leaf in the front looks as big as a stretched out hand.


Are MJ plants related to ferns in any way?...I know stupid question.

[9ski9]

I'm hoping they grow to at least 1/3 the size of Cunt's or Whore's buds. I'll take 1/4, but I'm hopin'...they have at least five more weeks to go.
I'm just psyched because of how they are compaired to my first grow. And I know I can do much better with my next grow.
The smart people will have to take the fern question.

[9ski9]

ha ha lol...I didnt mean to make you paranoid
I just found that thread. WTF was arathi laying into you for? I run hack programs, so I'm in and out of anonymous proxies all the time. For cops to get a search warrant for my house, they'd have to apply to judges in three separate jurisdictions with probable cause. Shitload of work and money. All to find out it was a proxy.

[HARDDON]

Just wait 9ski9...

With 5 weeks to go you have a lot of fricking growing to do :)

Those are going to be so sweet and fat.....

Maybe not like Cunt...she was just a freak of nature......and maybe not as long as Whores....she was tied long before flowering.....

But you will have a nice harvest on your hands. Your buds are highly stem based....so they will grow up and around the stem making them bigger buds as opposed to 'top' flowers, which produce smaller cones primarily at the tips...

Doesnt mean it will be better....

Do you have any trichs yet? The strongest strains should be giving you some trichs to view now....as attached...... :D

[9ski9]

Well, three of four are fairly coated with trichs on the flowers and leaves at 30x. I hadn't really looked 'cause it feels like I beat up the bud sites using the microscope too much. And I get a little obsessive using it on every bud...Did you keep the leaves you manicured from the buds separate? They must be a pretty decent smoke.

"Your buds are highly stem based....so they will grow up and around the stem making them bigger buds as opposed to 'top' flowers, which produce smaller cones primarily at the tips.."

I kind of assumed this, but wasn't really sure what to expect. The 'top' flowers I have on two of the girls look pretty cool, but it's as if that's all there is to the plant, as far as harvest goes.

[SeedKing72]

Its looking good, I hope my first grow is as successul I need to get 3-4 ounces to feel like I got my money back.. HYDRO next

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 24 update...

The close-up pic is of the bud at the far left that's kind of cool. The plant just has a main kola and wasn't bent or tied much, but the main bud is about the size and shape of a small pear so far. I had almost killed her for room a while back.

[mono repin]

DAMN!!!!

It just hit me how much bud is actually there... and still more to come.

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 26 pic update...

[HARDDON]

9ski9.....

Notice how the tallest tops are right under the light?

I would place the tallest on the ends, and work your way inward so the smallest are right under the lights. You will create a bowl shaped light arena.

This keeps the tallest plants from casting shade upon the smaller ones.

What a great job you have done on the nutes...they are so darn green and so very healthy...

What have you been using and how much and how often?

What is your plan on the nute schedule from here out? Now is the time you need to start planning your specific strategy for the final four weeks of flower.

Just super good grow my man..... :)

[9ski9]

Thanks, HD...
I guess my issue is that my main plant, Ginger Lynn, is in a 5 gallon pot in the middle. She has by far the most secondaries/bud sites, so I gave her prime location.
I have a slanted ceiling and bent the reflector to match the slope, then used pipe cleaners to "lean" the main kolas of the other plants toward the center of the light.

I need to take all the girls out and stop fighting them.

Great suggestion; sometimes you just need to hear/read something.

Nutes? Well, they got tons of bat guano through veg. Then I started on a very diluted (1/4 recommended) Schultz Cactus Juice which is 1-7-6 a couple of days into flower. Now it's 1/2 strength Cactus Juice every other watering (they get 2 liters every other day, so they get 1/2 strength nutes every 4 days). I've read that Schultz Cactus Juice is recommended at full strength once a week. At the first sign of burn, I'll cut them back, but they seem to be thriving and using it all.

Superthrive in every watering---PH 6.8 water. I mist them like crazy...well, a light mist twice a day, but never within 3 hours of sleep.

Lastly, I've kept one plant as a crash test dummy. She gets double nutes, but is in the worst light position. She'll show signs of a problem before my good girls do. I tried to OD her on guano, but she was fine. Now, I've given her mad helpings of Cactus Juice and she's still okay.

Off to think about my light situation...thanks, again!

[9ski9]

Hmmm...rearrangement #1...

Why is it that you just never seem to have enough light?

[BobBong]

Why is it that you just never seem to have enough light?

Because you never do!

[Da1KrayzieThug]

I been asking god to give me a small sun that generates no heat that I can put in my closet to grow plants.

[HARDDON]

9ski9....

That looks so much better. Every time you stick your head in that grow room, leaf by leaf, plant by plant, make sure the fans arent blocking any flowers. One by one.

That looks so much better. But dont be afraid to rotate them every fricking day.....I turn mine every day into a new position but I keep true to the fundamentals of low plant center and taller on sides.

What you lose from the tallest, you more than gain in the extras the new canopy shape will encourage :)

[HARDDON]

Thuglette....

Your light system, though older, still has grown some nice plants.

You simply need to have a high powered exhaust fan at the top near the unit. You need a vortex fan.

One fan blows on the bulb directly, the exhaust fan then takes the heat out.

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 27 update...

Approx. 29 days to harvest. Today was just an auto-pilot kind of day; misted twice, turned them a little, but nothing else.

[HARDDON]

When are you planning to stop her nutes?

Just curious.

Your call from here...you been a great daddy...except poor Hardonna...may she RIP.

[9ski9]

I had planned on three more gentle (1/3 strength) nutes. One at day 30, day 36, then day 42. Maybe one final one at day 48, leaving about 12 days to flush.

I have a habit of weak but frequent nutes from regular gardening. Perhaps this is bad? I've read theories on both sides.

Have I unknowingly been pissy sounding, HD? I'm in unchartered waters here and will happily accept advise...anything to nudge them toward Whore and Cunt's BBW looks. And, also, whatever the fuck Angry Johnny came up with. Jeez, I feel like the guy in the shower with a tiny dick looking at these threads.

[DaBuh]

lookin very nice 9ski i wish i had some advice you could use, but not all of us can be harddon ;)

i started growing various other plants that could have some psyadelic affect but i doubt my parent know what they are, got some poppy germinating, syrian rue, some cool lokin flower in my neighboors yard and finnaly some catnip for my babies :). hopefully they will give me a closet and lemme grow some tulips along with my other plants for her as soon as they see my lil locker got to crowded.

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 28 update...halfway home!

Just curious, but wouldn't MJ prefer cooler night temps during the latter stage of flowering to mimick nature?

[Joel]

Sometimes in your flowering stage if the tempature drops a bit like 20-30celcius its really good for the plant. They like the heat change sometimes :) sexy beasts.

Love your grow 9ski9, awesome.

[9ski9]

Ha, thanks, Joel. Er, that's 68 to 86 degree fahrenheit for us Amerrikans.

[9ski9]

Just a real quick Flower Day 29 update...


Another auto-pilot day.

[HARDDON]

Looks like growth has ceased to about 1/4" a day......

That means they will begin to fatten now as they grow still taller.

How much room do you have left?

[9ski9]

Yeah, it's hard to tell there's any growth except by comparing pics. 1/4" is about right. Most buds have 12 to 18 inches of vertical space, while three main kolas are pushing it to about six inches from getting too hot. I just figure I can bend them when the time comes. And it's a weird slant, so I could always remount the HPS to a higher spot and gain another three or four inches.

The number of vegging days seem to be a huge detail in grows with limited space...I went 46 days and I'm thinking I'm okay...guess I'm gonna find out for sure.

[likemclever]

Wow, I can definitely tell....

especially if you look at day 27 and then 29......the greenage stays about the same but the buds look bigger.......

sweet....

high bye the way..
:D

[latewood]

high everyone...I've got to go manage attachments, but I thought I would drop by...
nice job nineski..



missed you lmc, if your up we'll talk, later maybe

[HARDDON]

Trust me....46 days or 21 days....matters not.

They will triple in height during flower.

They will continue to grow at about 1/4" a day now til the end....thats if you have any MH present.

If not, look for 1/8 - 1/4 inch daily from here out. DO the math and see what you have. Dont get caught by surprise.

You have at least another 4 weeks????? of flowering? thats another 28 - 30 days...

at .25 inches a day....thats another 7" :D

They arent so easy to bend once they have those thick stalks. Some wont allow it...so, just be prepped and ready at the helm.

[9ski9]

Cool, thanks, HD. Much like the girls I've met, I can handle 7 or 8"...

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 32 update...

Jeez, this morning I woke up to a half-dead, droopy looking mess. Unlike HD, I did not pause to take an informative photo (I wish I had), but rushed to the water jugs. My first near-miss fuck-up. But 10 minutes later and they were fine.

[HARDDON]

Cant tell from the pic...how is the trich production coming along>

They should be starting to emerge about right now.....do you have an MH bulb to support them with some UV-B rays? That will help them...

Also are these sativa dominant plants or Indica?

Looks like it could be a 10 - 12 week flower process :)

[sMOkeY bOB]

sick man they sum healthy lookin greens u got, keep us posted

[likemclever]

Looking more beautiful every day skiâ?¦.. ;)

[9ski9]

Hi, Clever!

They are mostly indica...I had two mostly-sativa plants: one male and one hermie; both now long dead. Trichs are all over the buds and those upper leaves; they are perfectly clear right now.

No MH right now, HD. If I knew then what I know now, I suppose I'd have gone with a 400w switchable ballast. Instead, I suppose I should pick up a 250w MH and stick it in my grow room along with the 400w HPS.

I can grab a 250w MH system right now for $147.50 (includes shipping). If you were in my position, would you do it, HD?

[HARDDON]

ABSOLUTELY.

You still have about 4 weeks so you can kick them into high gear still :)

You have the perfect ratio to achieve as well.

PURRFECT :)

[9ski9]

ABSOLUTELY.
You still have about 4 weeks so you can kick them into high gear still :)
You have the perfect ratio to achieve as well.
PURRFECT :)

Okay, thanks, HD...I just bought one...it'll arrive Wednesday at the latest.

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 36 update...

One more quick shot of 1-7-6 Catcus Juice today. I expect the 250w MH to arrive tomorrow to add to the current 400w HPS and six CFL's.

This sucks without HD around.

I know there are plenty of genius growers and great people...but HD is HD. Not having the resident sometimes-borderline-psychotic-mad scientist-pervert here leaves a huge empty space.

How the fuck did that guy learn so much about growing in a couple of months? Look at his old posts and he was asking about basic lighting...a month later and he's preaching bending. By the end of the grow, he's cooking hash oil to perfection.

I admit I'm curious as to what Mrs. HD is like. What person could possibly live with HD?

I know things happen on message boards that are mostly unkown and can feel pretty catastrophic to those involved. I'm on another MB having to do with my sport and had to take a month off when some of my best friends didn't back me up during a flame war. I needed a month away to chill and even deleted the bookmark.

So maybe that's it. His leaving came shortly after his signature changed to the disclaimer. Maybe the fun was chased away with real fears and concerns.

I sure hope he pops back up in a day or a month.

It's just not as good.

And it sucks without HD around.

[likemclever]

Ahhhh...ski, I know hon.

It feels different to me too. But I hopw you'll keep posting to this thread. I seriously want to watch the rest of this grow....I know some others out there do too.

So just because HD's gone dosn't mean you can be a slacker ......got it... :D

[Starseed]

9ski9 , Very nice grow you have there.

I am new to these forums and even I understand the loss of HARDDON to you all. He was a smart guy from what I read of his posts, and a cocky one none the less :D.

Life will go on, As will your grow. Cant wait to see the harvest man, good luck.

Props -Starseed

[9ski9]

Thanks Clever and Star...my 250w MH arrived today...new stuff is a good thing. I'll post an update when I get it installed. I'll have to really watch it as far as how much more heat I'm throwing in there.

[likemclever]

I love getting new stuff......it doesn't matter if it's a new hairdryer....it's new and it's mine.

How much longer do you have in flower......I know you must have said already.







(Don't think for one minute that he wont check.......curiosity is a powerful thing... :) )

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 38 update...

Yeah, new stuff is fun, Clever. Getting new stuff and growing something is double the fun.

HD had said these may be as long as 70 to 84 days of flower. My plan has been a 56 day flower, but I'll go by what the trichs tell me.

I installed the MH, so they now have 400w HPS and 250w MH, as well as a couple of low CFL's.

It really hurts your eyes to open the door...I can only imagine 1000w systems...

But it stills sucks without HD around....

[DaBuh]

boy oh boy 9ski that looks so very very nice. i cant wait till i live in my own house, but i know thats a long way away.

im very sad to see Hard leave he had such a weath of information and his love for light hopefully printed on others besides myself.

keep up the awsome work those are looking so so so nice, dare i say juicy?

[9ski9]

Thanks, DaBuh...just 9 hours of added MH and there's already a difference. I was almost ready to kill this grow when Hardonna turned male.

Juicy? Juicy, wet, sticky...all are good.

[chillin]

hi ski ive sat there an read your thread from start to finish an all i can say is wow was devastated for u with hardonna but at least the rest of the crop as come good an it looks fantastic i only got chance to ask harddon one question an just by some of the replies hes give an the responses from the other members he sounded like a really cool dude the updates are amazin kepp them up mate because i'll definately b keepin an eye out for them mate

[likemclever]

ski .....that middle picture is just......wow...... :D

are you sure your gonna have a enough space.....because you still have a way to go yet.

[mono repin]

I actually set my computer wallpaper to the middle pic last nigth :D. Any chance we can see some REAL close up pics? I'd love to see the trichomes develop :o.

[9ski9]

Ha, thanks, Mono, I don't think you could give a grower a nicer compliment (especially a newbie like me)! Would you believe I have three macro lenses, but all are for 35mm film cameras? As far as digital, I swipe my wife's point and shoot for these pics. I'm working on a converter, though. The trichs look pretty cool at 60x.

Clever: vertical growth has slowed to less than 1/4" per day. I definitely have enough room for all but two of the kolas. Those two might have to undergo some creative bending. I was worried right at the end of veg, but I'm now more psyched about my smallish grow area than before. If I'd bent and tied these like Hardonna, there would be no issue at all.

Chillin: yeah, it was like a pet died when 'she' turned male. And it was like Santa Claus died when HD left us. But I guess we just buy a new pet, convert to Judaism, and life will march on...

And Mono, my bro, I foresee a cold, snowy epic day on the horizon.

[mono repin]

I figured you had macro's but couldn't figure out why you weren't using them. It all makes sense now.

Cold :D Snowy :D Epic :D

Count me in :)

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 40 update...

Who was it that told me to add an MH?

To quote a line from the movie Tommy Boy: "I can just hear you getting fatter."

Maybe the timing of a growth spurt was cooincidence, but about 30 hours of added MH has shown a noticeable fattening of the buds.

[DaBuh]

wheres my flower 43 update? ur plannin on a 60day flower right?

[9ski9]

Ha, I've been on a screwy work schedule so I've just been seeing them enough to check the trichs. I had planned on a 60 day flower until HD started talkin' a possible 10 to 12 week flower...

Jeez , 70 to 84 days? That's as much as another 40 days. If the buds really are going to keep fattening up for 40 more days, then great, I guess. I can't even picture the buds 40 days bigger, but it's a nice thought.

Just a quick Flower Day 43 update...

Just 1/4" per day growth.

[DaBuh]

well as long as the trichs need is how long i would flower and im sure they would get insane by 80days of flower. is there anyway u can slow the trich maturing process so u can get huge buds with a more active high(only reason i say more active is high is cuz i have heard the less mature the trichs the less couchlock/burnout u have)?

[9ski9]

I believe HD had said that to have your plant reach it's genetic potential you give it ideal growing conditions---light/dirt/nute/ph/temp/etc/---and then just follow the trichs and nail the ending. What you do through veg sets up what you are able to do in flower. And it's true, since my girl that I did extra fan leaf tying to expose secondaries has much better secondary buds.

I'm starting to see some cloudy trichs, so there's no way they are going another 40 days.

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 47 update...

I fed the last nutes a few days ago with just a very weak shot of 1-7-6 Cactus Juice...I suppose they've shifted to using up nutes in the fans, which are dying off fast. Everything looks pretty ragged right now. Trichs on some buds are getting cloudy. They are also using less water.

[likemclever]

Ya know ski I was gonna say last time that they looked a little droopy compared to the pictures beforeâ?¦..I didnâ??t say anything because I thought it was just me and I didnâ??t want to make a stupid ass comment.

Iâ??m so proud of the way youâ??ve handled this grow. He would be too

Iâ??m also pretty fucked up listening to sting right nowâ?¦.(shape of my heart to be precise) So excuse any sentiment that may seep trough.

Your girls look greatâ?¦.I think you will remember this grow.





(I miss hdâ?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦ .Itâ??s weird because I canâ??t make up my mind how to feel about it. On one hand it rolls off my backâ?¦.I guess because I think itâ??s supposed to.â?¦â?¦.and on the other hand I feel like he stole something from me and I canâ??t decide whether to be sad or pissed offâ?¦.lol.)





Those buds are already hugeâ?¦..I canâ??t even imagine what they will look like before harvest.

[9ski9]

Firstly, sorry Clever (and DaBuh and others that were following this) for disappearing, but work has been nuts and I've been happy just to keep the girls watered and alive and haven't had time to post.

Okay, I was being lazy.

This is Day 99 of this grow. 46 days veg and 53 days of flower. I have four girls left alive.

I killed my first girl tonight. Trichs had gone all cloudy and I wanted this mostly-indica girl to be heady instead of a body stone.

I did a quick manicure (I'm going to separate them further, but wanted to get a quick pic) and have them hung.

I weighed the main kola (obviously the one next to the vodka bottle). Any guesses as to the wet weight?

[RastaKaze]

Wet weight.. idk.. mabye 9 oz... not sure though. Definitely a good Oz. or two once drying is complete though :D awsome job and congrats. Was this your first try? Anyway KICKASS

[9ski9]

Thanks, Rasta! This is my second grow, but first with HD cracking the whip.

[RastaKaze]

Hehe the wonders of cactus juice :D .. damn I can't wait till my little LR's start flowering... they're only a few days old so we still have a few weeks till any sex parts show up, but i was sceptical about adding 2-3 drops a liter of cacus juice like you said, I mean lowryder never really gets the chance to mature so I though mabye it'd burn 'em.. Mabye I should start weak and work my way up to the right amount, or test a male with 2-3 drops and see what happens? Hope you have some insight to this.. I REALLY don't wanna fuck up.. and I'd love to have a crop half as beautiful as yours :thumbsup: That main cola ain't prettied-up or nothin' but looking past the little fan leaves.. OMG that stuff looks mouthwatering. What strain is it :confused: I love the varying colors, so trippy..

[9ski9]

I used a test plant throughout...a runt female in the back of the grow room that I always hit really hard with things first===like three days ahead of what I fed the others. I wouldn't risk leaving a known male with your girls, though. Go super easy with the cactus juice. Since I abused the runt with testing nutes, she has tall, skinny buds that are airy and have almost no weight.

HD always said that good soil eliminated the need to use a whole lot of ferts.

[mono repin]

WOW! Thanks for the heads up ski. That cola looks awsome. I'm gonna go ahead and say 6 oz. I'm gonna guess around 2 once dried. How long does the drying process take? Wanna walk us through that?

[9ski9]

Hey Mono!

I just rely on what HD told me...

Cut your plant down and leave it mostly intact, although you can separate and cut apart secondaries so they aren't touching (avoids molding). Ideally, you cut right at the dirt and hang the whole thing, but my secondaries were really close together.

Hang it upside down in a dark place in the low to mid 70'sF. Light degrades THC at this point. The processing of sugar is coming to an end (I guess like Fall and the end of a tree's chlorophyl processing cycle, but this part made me sleepy and I forgot it). The slow hanging method also allows for an even drying.

I'll be hanging them for about three weeks, then doing the final trimming and separate them even more. I'll hang the kola and secondaries for another few days, until the stems are brittle and 'snap' when you bend them.

Then I'll cut the small buds off the stems and put all the buds in canning jars. I have a bunch of those jars with rubber lips and metal wires that seal them airtight. You pack them full, but not tight. The less air the better, but not crushing them.

Once a day, I'll dump them out on a paper bag and give them a toss around to make sure there's no moisture. I have a dark, cold room where they'll stay for about four more weeks.

And the wet weight of the main kola is 188 grams, or 6.7 oz...

Could I possibly pull three ounces out of each of these five girls? Holy shit! That's 15 ounces!!!!

Now, if I don't fuck up the dry and cure then I might have almost a pound of half-decent weed.

Holy shit!

[DaBuh]

well thats just awsome and yeah i was about to post where the hell you had gone.. this'll probably be my last post cuz my user name and the whole google thing is bad for me incase a loved one or someone else sees it, might make a diffrent account or might just skim the boards every so offton who knows. Gee ur feminized white widow came out pretty good huh ;). half pound, thats about enough to last me a good 4 months maybe more well good luck everyone

[likemclever]

Could I possibly pull three ounces out of each of these five girls? Holy shit! That's 15 ounces!!!!

Now, if I don't fuck up the dry and cure then I might have almost a pound of half-decent weed.

Holy shit!


Ha haâ?¦I could actually see you smiling when you wrote that.

Ski itâ??s so good to see you update. And it looks great.

Got any picâ??s of the girls that made it.

[9ski9]

Hiya Clever! Here's a pic of the 4 remaining girls. They probably have a couple of weeks to go...this is Flower Day 56...

As a matter of fact, I fed them a weak drink of cactus juice today, so they'll have to go at least 2 more weeks. I added a third fan yesterday, since they're creeping closer to the really hot HPS.

And, yes, I've been smiling. I was happy during the first killing...it felt like a full circle; a completion. This is overall day 102.

[likemclever]

Sweet........I'm having trouble deciding which bud I like best.....:D



I'm so amazed that all those leaves died off......I knew you said they would fall off but I had no idea that they would FALL OFF like that.....excellent work ski.

I thought maybe your trigger finger was getting itchy.....:)

good job you.

[Rekap]

I fed them a weak drink of cactus juice today, so they'll have to go at least 2 more weeks.

can cactus juice only be used during flowering?

[9ski9]

Ha, thanks, Clever...I used bag seed from three different bags and ended up with four varieties of plants (the mostly-sativas were all males). One just matured much faster and was the girl that was killed...

Well, cactus juice is very low in nitrogen, which is the most important nute in the veg period. I'm still just a learning newb, but I'd have to guess it wouldn't do what is needed at all.

[Rekap]

Well, cactus juice is very low in nitrogen, which is the most important nute in the veg period. I'm still just a learning newb, but I'd have to guess it wouldn't do what is needed at all.

well im going to get some bat terds, how much should i add to make the tea? like atleast a gallon...? thanks

sorry to butt in and ask questions about my grow on your thread :o

[9ski9]

Hey, ask away...no prob...

I usually used a good two or three teaspoons per gallon. Shake well, then let stand for anywhere from 10 minutes to overnight. It's all good. And I was unable to overdose/burn my test plant with it. It's GREAT stuff.

[Rekap]

cool, thanks a lot 9...i think its the only thing im lacking right now. my baby has only begun to get her taste of superthrive and i can already notice heavier growth all around :)

goodluck with your grow!

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 63 update...

Man, 63 freaking days of flowering and counting. What ever made me think 8 weeks an out? The last of the fan leaves are dying off as they are being used up...trichs are 50% clear and 50% cloudy, but just a really slow change. Kolas are all sticky as hell. One more week for the last of the cactus juice to work out of their system, then a flush and just maybe it'll be time.

Again, 400w HPS and 250w MH, along with a few CFL's. Four girls still alive, with one hanging dead drying.

I realized after posting about using HD's hash oil recipe, that I'd also used Hardonna in the scraps. So all of Hardonna has now been smoked, except for a sample I'd passed along to a friend.

[BkSkillz]

damnnnnn nice grow bro keep it up

[Orleans2]

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[likemclever]

Damn ski.....for bag seed you sure wouldnâ??t know it.

I was thinking just today wondering when you were going to update.....your ears must have been burning.

[9ski9]

They just get a tiny bit fatter every day. Not much change.

I've always wondered how much different healthy seeds from crappy bud compare to really good bag weed seeds. HD talked about reaching genetic potential in your grow and that most grows could simply have been done better and the bud cured for greater potency.

I'd love to grow some of the frosty looking monsters you see in the gallery, but I'm more into sprouting seeds from bud that I really like. I keep track of what the buzz was like on the containers that I save my seeds.

If I can duplicate some of the pot I've bought from a friend recently, then to hell with buying from a seed bank. I'm sure that sounds pretty ignorant to a seasoned grower, but it's just the way I look at it...

[likemclever]

no ski, that sounds about perfect..

[9ski9]

Just a quick Flower Day 70 update...

Sticky, resin coated, and as stinky as can be. Two weeks since ending nutes, they are drinking about 1qt every other day. Trichs are SLOWLY all going cloudy. The girls are UGLY as can be, with knoby new growth poking out of the kolas.

I usually grab a pic right after lights out, but this is with lights still on. 400w HPS, 250w MH, and five CFL's.

I keep reminding myself that when you think they're done, wait a week...

[9ski9]

After 46 days of veg and 75 days of flower, the lights went out for the final time...121 days. Trichs went 100% cloudy. I'll post a pic after my four remaining girls are killed tomorrow night. They get 24 hrs of darkness before I end their lives.

I'm pretty sure they know something's up. I wonder what they are thinking?

[lemonboy]

Did they get much chunkier than that last pic you posted? Nice work man.

[9ski9]

Thanks....they got heavy. Two main kolas are at least 10oz wet. I wish I could grow 10oz dry kolas...the world's problems would be solved.

Well, mine would be...

[turtle420]

I'm pretty sure they know something's up. I wonder what they are thinking?

F U C K . Girls!!! RUNNNN!!!!

[Zion High]

I just read through all 17 pages straight and I feel like i'm on the final chapter of a book ... Its kind of funny how something like reading someones grow journal can feel like a small book... First there was the beginning... The many lessons of HD .... Then Hardonna dies....Then HD leaves...Then 9ski turns into the new teacher offering lessons to new pupils and soon to come will be the CLIMAX ... The harvest weigh !!! DUN-DUN-DUN ...

"What will happen next... Tune in next week to find out kids..."

I honestly feel like I just read a mini book and i'm fiending for more LMAO !!!

...

One quick question 9... YOu said the closet is 5x5 right... How many square feet would you say each plant takes up... including the distance that is between each plant?

Thanks
~Zion

[likemclever]

I'm pretty sure they know something's up. I wonder what they are thinking?

Yeah they know...

they are like dogs. they know when their about to be put down down. Try not to look them in the eye.




You've done such great job.. :thumbsup:


:stoned:

[9ski9]

I just read through all 17 pages straight and I feel like i'm on the final chapter of a book ... Its kind of funny how something like reading someones grow journal can feel like a small book... First there was the beginning... The many lessons of HD .... Then Hardonna dies....Then HD leaves...Then 9ski turns into the new teacher offering lessons to new pupils and soon to come will be the CLIMAX ... The harvest weigh !!! DUN-DUN-DUN ...
"What will happen next... Tune in next week to find out kids..."
I honestly feel like I just read a mini book and i'm fiending for more LMAO !!!
...
One quick question 9... YOu said the closet is 5x5 right... How many square feet would you say each plant takes up... including the distance that is between each plant?
Thanks
~Zion

Hey, Zion! Thanks, that's very cool of you to say.

When I transplanted at the end of veg, two went into 5 gallon pots, while three went into three gallon pots. I had picked the bigger plants for the bigger pots, obviously. The 5 gallon pots took up 15" and the plants spread to about 24". The 3 gal. are 12" and those plants took up about 20". They were in two rows, staggered. My space was absolutely maxed.

Bending and tying allows you to train a plant to fit your space, aside from the benefits of more light on the secondaries.

My sativas all turned out male or hermie and were killed. It seems to me that mostly-sativa plants really spread out and use much more room than indicas, especially if you tie.

Hey, Clever: well, they are sticky and stinky...and I'll do a better job next time
:)

I'm hanging them intact with just a slight trimming. The weirdly bushy plant on the far right is my test dummy plant that got over-nutes and over everything. The buds are feather light and very hollow. I tried a small bud and it tasted like spoiled fish dipped in vinegar.

I'll trim more tomorrow, then let them hang in the dark for a couple of weeks. At some point, I'll cut and separate them a little more. I have a fan blowing on them to avoid mold.

After the are dry and snap when bent, I'll begin the curing.

[likemclever]

I bet you are just going bonkers with anticipationâ?¦.I would be.


excellent

[9ski9]

I killed the one girl weeks ago, so she's been getting heavily sampled 8*)

[Zion High]

Ski... Is there any particular reason(s) why you didn't go with an HPS for Veg ?

[9ski9]

Well, a lot of people use CFL's for veg. The spectrum is good and they are cool, so you can surround the young plants. I try and keep them about an inch away from the tops. Mostly, though, it was on HD's recommendation.

Harddon was a newbie when he came here not long ago, but immersed himself in learning so much so that his wife nearly kicked him out of the house. Of course this place is filled with more knowledgeable/experienced/talented growers, but I never saw an HD post that wasn't funny and mostly dead-on right.

Growing is a never ending learning process. I'm sure Zandor could tell you something new he's just learned and that guy knows just about everything. Any grower needs guidance when starting out. From that, you repeat what you know to work for you. Like the magic of bat guano, for example.

I found a method of growing that suits me. I respect and marvel at what hydro people can do, but I'm not into it. I even have all the gear for cloning, but I'm not sure I'll bother with my next grow.

I moved to a spot that's literally deep in the woods and gave up a sunny garden at my previous house. I really enjoy the process of gardening. I used to come home and dead-head flowers to relieve stress; now I tuck, tie, and tend to MJ plants. It's been a cool journey.

I imagine Mand could relate to that.

Sorry to get OT from your question...I suddenly have a three week period of nothing garden-related to do and I'm rambling on...

Good CFL's have given me nice, bushy plants during veg, so they are my choice of light. 8*)

[likemclever]

What's a girl got to do around here for an update.....don't answer that. :D

[EmTpockets]

Yo ski....Ive read up your log.....you know, it is like a book!! Are you starting a new grow soon?

Clever, babygirl, I like the new avatar(been away for a bit, so it might not be new) but I like it anyways!!

[likemclever]

Thanks EmT actualy this avitar is starting to make its way out ....just looking for a suitable replacement... :smokin:

[latewood]

hey lmc. been awhile...catch up with you one of these days...lw

[atari]

Thankyou 9ski9 and harddon for this amazing thread.. it's really inspired me..

I was just wondering if either of you could give me some guidance as to starting to grow for the very first time and any advice on choice of seeds etc.

I would be greatful for advice from anyone for that matter!

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=66146

Thanks!

Atari

[9ski9]

Ha, resurrected from the dead...

I don't use seed banks, so one of the many genius growers around here can help you with that. I save seeds from different pot I really like...just good old bag seed.

As far as doing a basic soil grow, I took everything I learned from HD and began a grow in March, without all the mistakes. And once you've bought all the gear, the second grow costs next to nothing.

The only changes in my current grow are the nute/THC booster mixture, the veg time was shorter (because they grew faster this time), and the use of fish emulsion during flowering.

Take a look at my current grow log. It's a really basic setup...nothing fancy. But it's capable of producing a pound of weed that, when properly cured, absolutely knocks your dick in the dirt.

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=61034