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nubie420
05-21-2004, 10:03 PM
becoming life
I inhaled one breath full and held it in for about 20 seconds. I was lying on my bed on my side, and as soon as I exhaled, I felt pressure all around, as if I was under a hundred of feet of water. Then, suddenly, I popped into ground-zero reality, the right side of my body opened up and I connected down through the bed, through the floor and foundation of the house into some immense planetary network, teaming with a multitude of various types consciousness and intelligence. There was a definite sense of other beings around me. I noticed that I was a gravity well, sucking all sound and light around me into a vortex that had formed in the cusp of my curled body. I was channeling everything back into the nebulae that I had contacted, I was a receptor and realized that we all are. We as humans are mere sense organs for the planet. My consciousness then flattened and spread, like dough under a rolling pin. It then began to separate into 5 distinct autonomous portions, each one a completely separate and full version of myself. I experienced them all simultaneously. At this point I kind of freaked, not expecting such a drastic shift in perception. I thought, "this is way too much! I wasn't expecting to dissolve and break apart like this!". I opened my eyes and sat up. Optic ballets of light and various shapes danced everywhere around my room, it was alive. I noticed that all matter is conscious. I could hear my heart beating. I got up and almost fell over, which surprised me, I didn't realize it would have a physical affect as well. It seemed that I weighed 500lbs and my arms were 12 feet long. I made it to the kitchen and got a drink of water, then went and laid back down and entered a trance for what seemed like 20 minutes. My consciousness and physical body began twisting and stretching like some bizarre silly putty being pulled though a cosmic taffy machine. I had visions of lives playing out, representing the whole of human experience, love, war, riot and everything in between. I could clearly see my entire biological history, the chain of life. I had somehow accessed my genetic and cellular memory. All of my ancestors were present, then I realized that they always are, I just can't always perceive them. I saw how potentiality becomes reality by force of will, that thought IS matter. And I am dead serious when I say this, the actual physical world around us, meaning even the floor you are standing on, or the toilet you are pissing into, is created by a consensus of thought emanating from our multi-dimensional selves, vibrating at varying speeds, creating first the sub-atomic particles, which then combine and grow, and combine and grow, and on and on until we have atoms, molecules, proteins, single-celled organisms, complex organisms, and finally the human and it's large brain, which can re-access the cellular, molecular and sub-atomic memories, commune with the just-out-of-perception logos and realize it's place in the continuum of existence that we ourselves created in the first place. When I "woke up" from this lucid dream-like state, I saw that about an hour had passed. The time compression was pronounced, and was very strange, it really only seemed that twenty minutes at most had passed.I was surprised that I felt nearly 100% normal. It was an amazing and beautiful experience, despite the shock of it all.
nubie420
05-22-2004, 10:50 PM
i was not smoking pot!!!! ,this story is about smoking 20x salvia divinorum, not to mention it's posted under experiences. i doubt even half the ppl registerd have tried Salvia so i don't think i'm preachin to the chior... and no-one has ever triped like that off of any form of THC, not evan the best hash in the world is that f**ckin stoney! MARIJUANA IS NOT HALLUCINAGENIC
maryjanemama
05-22-2004, 10:59 PM
Hi, nubie420! I tried salvia before and it did nothing for me, but I've read that it's best to try salvia extract. Is that the same as the salvia that is ground and smoked? I'm trying to figure out what I did wrong, because I smoked a gram over the course of about 1 1/2 hours and...nothing. Isn't 20x salvia divinorum the strongest available? I'd like to have a great experience like you did.
nubie420
05-22-2004, 11:45 PM
HI MARIJANE, exctract is not just groun up salvia, it's usualy leaf soaked in alcohol contianing salvornium A. washed out from LOTS of salvia leaves, anyway the first time you do salvia it usual dosen't do much but after the third forth time you can tell how much harder it hits you, then is the time to try exctract! or at least smoke alot of deacent leaf realy fast..the way i perfer to smoke leaf is in a small bong with a larg bowl, pack about 1-1.5 grams of leaf, hit it hard with the lighter on it the whole time, and hold in your hit for as long as posible. to get rid of the nasty taste when smoking try rolling some crushed up leafes in you stem resin and do this till it's a gooey green/black messy glob, this glog will smoke much nicer, even cut it up and put it on top of a striat bowls of salvia, but if you get exctract and you wana smoke it:) (thats the way to go)just pack a phatty bowl of weed and leave room to fill the bowl with your extcract and do so, then toke up and sit down :)
Natch
05-23-2004, 04:25 PM
I really don't understand why some people are so shitty to us newbies. It happens on here...it happens in some of the chat rooms...I mean some people just don't get it. Fucking burnouts.
BongFish
05-23-2004, 06:00 PM
"MARIJUANA IS NOT HALLUCINAGENIC"
Yes it is.
Eat a 8th of nice resin and tell me you're not hallucinating.
I (stupidly) did this before my art exam several years ago and I was hearing lots of angel people singing and the room was vibrating the whole time. Not entirely pleasent.
[Edit]
Ta for the salvia exp. report. I'm interested in trying the stuff and youe report is more detailed and interesting than most on erowid.
rnf232s
05-23-2004, 06:35 PM
bongfish is completely right. there are a ton of cannaboids in marijuana that have hallucinagenic properties. the cannaboids that cause hallucinations though are destroyed at much lower temperatures than what the heat is when it is burned when you smoke it. that is why when you cook marijuana at lower temperatures you can have a lot more of an effect because a lot more chemicals are present in the active form.
nubie420
05-23-2004, 10:28 PM
I'V DRANK BONG WATER.... I'V EATEN 5 grams of REAL MORROCAN HASH (got realy stoned), I'V SMOKED LITERALY POUNDS OF POT IN ONE SITTING.... I HAVE NEVER HALLUCINATED FROM THC, i have however got so high i was somehow sober again, any way my point is, even though ther are some properties the government calls "Hallucinogenic," no-one TRIPS OUT from using pot like you would from say hallucinogenic, cubinsis mushrooms.... pot just plain and simple isnt that intence!
nubie420
05-24-2004, 04:23 PM
LOL? :)wait no? this fucking funny... all you light-weight little kids r out their fry-ing on pot like it??s acid?that is really fucking funny:)...and david420, you thought shrooms came from SEEDS so id would think twice about trusting your knowledge about hallucinogens. like I said it is called hallucinogenic by the government and media, OBVIOSLY people actually still believe what others say to the point it carry??s over to thier very susceptible minds into a placebo effect? it is not true(like the characters on TV. and movie when they use pot always do some stupid shit like float, or the walls are made to look like their spinning). I??ve tried, using pounds of harvest, eating whole trays of pot brownies, you can??t TRIP off pot, Don??t believe all that crap you??ve been force fed by the government and media?. pot isn??t acid it??s not shrooms it??s not even in the same realm. Show me one person the uses any other substance classified as a hallucinogen as legitimate medicine! Pot just isn??t hallucinogenic! No matter what any one say! next you people will try and tell me you can O.D. from smoking pot and die!
gs8778
05-24-2004, 05:30 PM
tip - Use a butane torch lighter for salvia since the chems need a higher temp to activate.
nubie420
05-25-2004, 03:48 PM
lol.....btw im 34 and i'v been growing pot for ten goin o 11 years
gs8778
05-25-2004, 05:21 PM
well, your quite wrong.
salvia 20x can be bought here for 36.99/gram
And that's for the standardized kind, you can get unstandardized for less
http://www.iamshaman.com
"We infuse pure salvinorin extracted and washed with pure grain alcohol onto carefully crushed organic, pesticide free Hawaiian Salvia leaves, providing a consistent quantity of exactly 50mg of salvinorin per gram for 20 times strength or 20x. No harmful chemicals are used anywhere in the process.
This 20x Standardized Salvia extract is crafted from leaf grown in the Sierra Mazacteca region of Mexico, and the leaf is blessed before it leaves the farm. Salvia extracts are relatively new, but the Salvia divinorum plant has been used medicinally for thousands of years by the Mazatec Indians. Buy Salvia 10x extract from a shop that has been making high quality Salvia products for over 5 years. Because we take great pride in all of our Salvia products, expecially our Salvia 5x, 6x, 10x, and 20x extracts, both standardized and non-standardized, we have a large customer base of returning, loyal customers."
nubie420
05-25-2004, 06:09 PM
I??ll apologize now for my long-windedness but this is realy funny?ok first off I buy my salvia X20 from a reputable dealer, there a link on www.sagewisdom.org , not just some guy on the street,....where the do you get this shit,17 lol, it??s actually the nicest thing I??v heard in a longtime:) I gues if you saw how old I look you??d agree, I could take that as a complement. btw do you mean people who DON'T know better than to say they come from seeds !SHROOM COME FROM SPORES NOT SEEDS!, you usually incubate a pf cake with spores and keep it about 70 degrees Fahrenheit in a low light area (not dark) that is if you grow em yourself and it??s a lot cheaper that way to get shrooms that buying them from a middle man. But I??m getting of the subject. I??ve never met anyone who has actually tripped off pot (no colors or closed eye hallucinations, even mild ones) I have seen losers fall victim to placebo effect and think that they were higher than actually possible (they were all acting all like the dudes in that peace of shit Jim Brewer movie ??half baked?) again I offer the proof that marijuana, although classified as hallucinogenic, is in fact not. It is many things, a sedative, an antidepressant, an inebriant. But the fact remains hallucinogens have no place in legitimate medicinal treatment; marijuana however has many legitimate medicinal uses, it??s ok people it??s just that you??ve all been lied too, you see, a lot of us old time stoners have known for a long time marijuana was misclassified, I guess the word didn??t get out properly, all you ppl still believe the government??s lies. just cuz some commercial or lame old book your reading or your buddies told you that pot is a hallucinogen doesn??t make it TRUE, come on ppl are you REALY THAT STUPID? Feeling stoned and tripping-out are not in the same realm of intoxication. Did you ever hear some one smoke pot and say ??wow I??m tripping out,? if so their full of shit, It??s like, let??s say you were to tell a kid that there was alcohol in a drink that was actually striate juice, he??d act ass if he were drunk because he would actually thoroughly believe that he was drunk?the placebo effect is very strong, try and be aware of it ppl?.no-one is actually ??tripping? or ??seeing colors? from pot, your just stoned and it??s really easy to convince yourself you just hallucinated when your smoking or eating good pot?.if your dealer was to give you a joint, and lets you start smoking it, and a couple minutes in, he lies and says ??oh shit this is that pot that had pesticide on it, if it don??t kill you it??ll give a phatty headache,? you??d probably develop a placebo headache, you??ll experience symptoms to the none existent toxin you think you ingested but the joint was actually some good clean pot from your dealers stash?.that??s the way it really is, I don??t care if you want to believe it or not you can??t actually trip out on pot, sorry ppl it??s just not true! If you disagree, maybe your view of what hallucinating is, is actually skewed to the way-side of what is actually just ??high? .................................................. .....................come on ppl find somthing inteligent to post:)
nubie420
05-25-2004, 06:25 PM
gs8778, when did i ever say ne thing disputing what u said about salvia? these guys have had me talking about pot for a long time:), the last post i said ne thing about salvia was post #6????????????????????????? i don't dispute ne thing u said about salvia or extract, sorry about the miscamunication, all the stuff u said in #16 is right as far as i know, but i don't know half as much about salvia as i do about pot uc. i never claimed too be a salvia expert
gs8778
05-25-2004, 07:43 PM
nah dude, I was responding to this, not you. peace
nubie420 ur a retard weed is a mild hallucanigen it enhaces colours and such salvia is nothing to be proud about im gettin some tommorow only coz i got no weed and smoking weed is way better than it u must be like 17 and ur callin opther ppl kids ? ah shame shame god ur a spastic im also gettin shrooms which are a strong visual hallucinagen and stop bein such a faggot to other ppl who no know better than to say they come from seeds and if u bought that salvia of someone you know no way will it be 20x it'd cost a fuckin bomb and no one would make it i mean 10x is like £23 british 20x would be more than 40 british and thats like 75dollars for a gram no one would buy it
DrinkTheBongWater
05-25-2004, 08:06 PM
Hey nubie420. I suggest you shut the fuck up. Nobody can smoke pounds of weed. Even if it was shit weed you would pass out long before you got close. And anybody who is stupid enough to drink the god damn bong water should just stop living. And nobody wants to read you super long posts. Go away.
P.S- I cant belive you drank the bong water. You jackass.
nubie420
05-25-2004, 11:23 PM
lol....realy get a good laugh out of you guys, "nobody can smoke pounds of pot," wow what a retarded statment, and it would make it harder to smoke more if it was shity weed, dumbass your the one who needs to shut the fuck up!
duppy man
05-25-2004, 11:36 PM
hey Chill.....don't get so uptight people who gives a toss how much anyone can toke on a Session,,,,,, if they think they trip on weed,,, so be it....its not a big deal..Ive been smoking to long to care
duppy man
05-25-2004, 11:42 PM
Nubie it was you who mentioned smoking pounds in a Sesh you know and I know thats Bollocks but so what...just enjoy the trip...
DrinkTheBongWater
05-26-2004, 02:27 AM
lol....realy get a good laugh out of you guys, "nobody can smoke pounds of pot," wow what a retarded statment, and it would make it harder to smoke more if it was shity weed, dumbass your the one who needs to shut the fuck up!
Well asshole if it was good weed then a gram would put you on your fucking ass you dipshit. If it was shit weed then you would have to smoke a lot before passing out. But smoking pounds of weed at one time is impossible, no matter how good it is. Ya jackass.
P.S- you still drank the bong water you dolt.
Roland Bluntz
05-26-2004, 09:00 AM
ANyone who says they SMOKED LITERALLY POUNDS OF POT in one siting like nubie420 did is NOT to be taken seriously.
And Salvia is dirty, disgusting junk, just my opinion, if other ppl like it it's cool but i think that shit is NASTY.... partly cuz it directly led to panic attacks for me after a couple days off it, when i smoked weed from my friends roor, this is a pre-existing condition in my mom's fam and i got it and had to take meds.. so i think i got a "taste aversion" to salvia form that... that shit is junk.. anyway im just rambling ucz im on coke and smoked some purple haze... i know some ppl are gonna talk shit about using coke now.. it s all good
anycraic
05-26-2004, 11:57 AM
see the thing is mate it was all good until u started getting defensive-as-fuck, that salvia thing is probably true enough ive had similar experiences, only the 20+ is worth bothering with. yes it is possible to trip on cannabis, but not if you smoke it, not possible youll pass out after 2 or 3 ounces of even the worst shit, drink a liter or two of Bhang Lhasi and tell me your not tripping! well anyway, your the strangest sounding 34 year old ive ever seen, im 23 and i wouldnt go on like that, sound like my kid brother lol....anyway im outta here, dont bother flaming itll only make you look worse....to everyone, peace.........
nubie420
05-26-2004, 05:43 PM
ne way i'm gana go to jamaca for vacation and to get seeds, feel free to continue to talk shit about things you don't know, i'll have somthing funny to read when i get back, ill be bringin back pics to so wacth in the gallery, there suposed to be a 25ft waterfall IN the village....peace ppl:)
gs8778
05-26-2004, 09:13 PM
*sigh* See, the problem is people think that you meant you smoked a pound by yourself to the head. Now you finally mention that you were with 8 ppl. So 2 oz per person is still alot, but I guess it depends how long the sesh was. I can't see myself being able to smoke over 50 grams at a time, but whatever.
Dope Chic
05-27-2004, 03:13 AM
How about we just all smoke one and forget it now?
Now that sounds like a plan :D ;)
bigdaddy420
05-27-2004, 03:33 AM
All got to say is JeffJFromKCMO fire that phatty up and pass it this way.
slipnslide087
05-27-2004, 08:09 PM
one lb is 16 ounces man. but its cool. just tryin to prevent you geting fucked over in the future if you try to buy a larger quantity. nubie, just stop.
maelly
05-28-2004, 02:04 AM
if your 34 and have been growing pot for 11 years then why is your user name nubie??
DrinkTheBongWater
05-28-2004, 02:44 AM
*sigh* See, the problem is people think that you meant you smoked a pound by yourself to the head. Now you finally mention that you were with 8 ppl. So 2 oz per person is still alot, but I guess it depends how long the sesh was. I can't see myself being able to smoke over 50 grams at a time, but whatever.
I still think smoking 2 oz is near impossible in one sitting.
anycraic
05-28-2004, 04:54 AM
if your 34 and have been growing pot for 11 years then why is your user name nubie??
hmmmmmmmmmmm good point
cherylsyv
05-28-2004, 04:51 PM
you all need to stop and take a long smoke break, come back and get along. we are all happy here right? and I must be a retard cause I'v been smoking for 15 years and never heard of salvia.
BongFish
06-05-2004, 11:30 PM
nubie420 you are a wanker.
You drank bongwater... WHY? Did you expect to get high from it? LOL!
Also you're not going to trip out on weed like you would on acid but it still has halucinogenic properties if you eat a shed load or smoke a lot! It happens and lots of people report it so STFU. If you're too dumb to recognise subtle halucinogenic effects of a substance then you shouldn't be smoking weed.
Also:
... the government calls "Hallucinogenic"
Yeh you sound kinda paranoid there... stay off the bongwater.
ride n get high
06-07-2004, 10:23 PM
drinkin bong water is fucking dumb and taste like shiit
uhh 2 ounces in 1 sitting is nuts i thik ure exagerating a lil
peace
sawleaf
06-07-2004, 10:37 PM
Hey Ride N Get High, are you going to DC for the Smoke IN on the 4th of July?
endo steve
06-11-2004, 12:02 PM
delta-9 sends me trippin, i was down the park in my village once, sittin on a bench, it was evenin i thought and believed that someone was riding around the park on a bike and i said to my 2 friends "hey, theres someone on a bike" thinkin nothin of it. they slapped me n sed i was a fuck up. ofcourse i didnt know what was goin on i was blazed outta my skull. (i had smoked an 8th in about 45 minutes tho). so ur wrong mr 34 year old experienced man!
SumSkater540
06-13-2004, 05:28 AM
Hey nubie420, i dont kno why you gotta get so uptight about little things like "If u can trip on this or trip on that". Its different for different people so i dont see why its that big of a deal for you. Pot heads in general are ususally some of the nicest people you will ever meet i mean, thats what its about it just not worring and havin a good time smokin and chillin out, relaxing. I dont kno many smokers who worry too much about things or try to bring you down cuz they disagree with you. You need to relax man and enjoy life while you have it. You are givin us a bad name like this just try to chill out and be open to what people have to say, you'll be alot happier that way i promise you.
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