Terrorist suspect shot dead on London tube

[Button Basher]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706787.stm

Messed up shit! We're definitely feeling the blow from this war now. :(

What I don't get is why the officers bundled the guy to the ground and THEN shot him after. Why not arrest him and find links, etc?

[Psycho4Bud]

I suppose they could have waited for ol' boy to detonate the explosives first. Wouldn't want to infringe on his rights! BANG, BANG and another terrorist gone! :D

[Button Basher]

Apparently it was a number of officers that piled on top of him.

Your probably right anyway.

I wonder when America will start paying for the war.

[Psycho4Bud]

I thought 9-11.....................OH YAH, our government did that...guess we still got one coming! :rolleyes:

[Torog]

Apparently it was a number of officers that piled on top of him.

Your probably right anyway.

I wonder when America will start paying for the war.
Howdy BB,

Tsk..tsk..you should be ashamed of asking when will America start paying for the war..if yer talkin about money,no one has out-spent the US,if yer talking about blood,we started with over 3000 folks,from countries all around the world,on 9/11/01,and we've been paying in blood since and we will continue to pay in blood..until your country is safe..but when you have idiots like the mayor of London,who gives out peace awards to those who clamor for the deaths of British citizens..yer kinda taking 2 steps back. When the BBC,uses only 3 minutes of air time,to report yesterday's incident..yer takin 2 steps back. Do ya see my point ? You're gonna have to start taking the threat of terrorism more seriously..and start calling terrorists..terrorists,instead of freedom fighters and bombers.

Congratulations..you've just managed to piss on the graves of every American soldier,who has died in order to protect your country..are ya proud of yerself ?

Have a good one....

[nicholasstanko]

I suppose they could have waited for ol' boy to detonate the explosives first. Wouldn't want to infringe on his rights! BANG, BANG and another terrorist gone! :D

im going to go with psycho on this one.

BUT it does set a disturbing precedent. it's the same thing going on iraq now.
see some kid by a checkpoint playing ball, BANG. "whoops...i thought he was an insurgent...all in the name of freedom...no harm done"

I don't know of a beter solution other than to fix the problem. by leaving iraq. :mad:

[nicholasstanko]

I thought 9-11.....................OH YAH, our government did that...guess we still got one coming! :rolleyes:

yeh, considering the fear being hyped up. "it's not a matter of if...but when"


what the fuck is that? instead of solving everything, people are just sitting back waiting for the explosions like christians eager for the rapture. i fear the end is near.

[Button Basher]

Uh-oh, Torog put me in my place.
Sorry man, that was harsh, talking about when you guys are gonna start paying. For once, I think your 100% right. I let my frustration get the better of me again. Sorry about that!

Just so you know, we have a BBC news network (much like your CNN) that has been airing information on the incident since it happened. I don't know anything about the mayor of London though, care to source?

I believe this country should start taking terrorism more seriously, now that it is finally an issue. Do you care to remember that before the tube bombings a couple weeks ago, Britain hadn't suffered any kind of serious terrorist attack in relation to the war in Iraq.

I still believe (as a report recently confirmed) that we wouldn't be getting these attacks had we not agreed to help the US with it's dirty work, but following what's happened, I believe thats beside the issue.
The problem is we're a very small country with a very small capital. An easy target for the extremists (which it now turns out there is no shortage of on our homeland, however the fuck that happened). I think, in the long run, we may come to suffer at the hands of this war a lot more then you guys.

Apologies again. Have a good one yourself!

[Button Basher]

I don't know of a beter solution other than to fix the problem. by leaving iraq. :mad:

My sentiments exactly, but here lies the dilemma. In this ridiculous world where preserving face takes priority over all, our leaders would much rather continue the bloodshed in the veign hope everything will blossom into roses once the last bomb falls.

Stupid fucks. Pull out the troops (Iraq has it's government) and I guarantee the dust will settle, if at least for a little while.

[nicholasstanko]

My sentiments exactly, but here lies the dilemma. In this ridiculous world where preserving face takes priority over all, our leaders would much rather continue the bloodshed in the veign hope everything will blossom into roses once the last bomb falls.

Stupid fucks. Pull out the troops (Iraq has it's government) and I guarantee the dust will settle, if at least for a little while.


but the oil will flow in the wrong direction. oil we dont even really need, mind you.

[Torog]

Uh-oh, Torog put me in my place.
Sorry man, that was harsh, talking about when you guys are gonna start paying. For once, I think your 100% right. I let my frustration get the better of me again. Sorry about that!

Just so you know, we have a BBC news network (much like your CNN) that has been airing information on the incident since it happened. I don't know anything about the mayor of London though, care to source?

I believe this country should start taking terrorism more seriously, now that it is finally an issue. Do you care to remember that before the tube bombings a couple weeks ago, Britain hadn't suffered any kind of serious terrorist attack in relation to the war in Iraq.

I still believe (as a report recently confirmed) that we wouldn't be getting these attacks had we not agreed to help the US with it's dirty work, but following what's happened, I believe thats beside the issue.
The problem is we're a very small country with a very small capital. An easy target for the extremists (which it now turns out there is no shortage of on our homeland, however the f*ck that happened). I think, in the long run, we may come to suffer at the hands of this war a lot more then you guys.

Apologies again. Have a good one yourself!
Howdy BB,

Apology accepted :)

I'll see if I can find a story about Mayor Livingstone,giving the peace award to that there muslim cleric that's inciteing violence,I can't recall his name at the moment,he's the one that's been in the news alot and may even have been resposible for inciting the terrorist cell to attack on July 7th and yesterday.

Whether you like it or not..y'all do believe in Freedom and if you want to keep it,you ain't got much choice,but to defend it..that means you should'nt git hung up over whether or not that you're gittin attacked,because we're allies..rather,you should understand that y'all are defending the ideals of Freedom..that the entire Free World believes in and cherishes.

This is everyone's fight..and if it be God's Will and due to our vigilance and resolve..we will win.

Have a good one !

[NowhereMan]

Apparently it was a number of officers that piled on top of him.

Your probably right anyway.

I wonder when America will start paying for the war.


start?
wtf?
US military personnel killed
1,764 .
what ya mean start paying for this war.
our troops die almost everyday,
can almost detect a hint of wish we would get blown up tone from you?
i may be wrong if so im sorry
but i for one resent what that implied

as if america gets a free pass or some shit
it dont we pay dearly
some pay with it all

[Button Basher]

Apology accepted :)

Cheers mate :D !



I'll see if I can find a story about Mayor Livingstone,giving the peace award to that there muslim cleric that's inciteing violence,I can't recall his name at the moment,he's the one that's been in the news alot and may even have been resposible for inciting the terrorist cell to attack on July 7th and yesterday.

Abu Hamza?
I don't recall him being given a peace award. I think that's a pretty ridiculous statement, considering every Briton in the whole country knows he's a hateful bastard (yet we let him stay in the country anyway, we're too polite you see).
He's being trialed on terrorism (chargeshttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4652693.stm). Do you mind if I ask where you heard he was given a peace award? If it was a buddy of yours, let him know he's a moron. ;)

[Psycho4Bud]

My sentiments exactly, but here lies the dilemma. In this ridiculous world where preserving face takes priority over all, our leaders would much rather continue the bloodshed in the veign hope everything will blossom into roses once the last bomb falls.

Stupid fucks. Pull out the troops (Iraq has it's government) and I guarantee the dust will settle, if at least for a little while.

Yipper, when the shit gets thick we should run like cowards! Bet ya wanted Kerry to win! :rolleyes:

Iraq does have its own govenment and the way it sounds the military will be able to handle the situation in 2006...then what'll be the next excuse for the terrorists?

[nicholasstanko]

Howdy BB,

Apology accepted :)

I'll see if I can find a story about Mayor Livingstone,giving the peace award to that there muslim cleric that's inciteing violence,I can't recall his name at the moment,he's the one that's been in the news alot and may even have been resposible for inciting the terrorist cell to attack on July 7th and yesterday.

Whether you like it or not..y'all do believe in Freedom and if you want to keep it,you ain't got much choice,but to defend it..that means you should'nt git hung up over whether or not that you're gittin attacked,because we're allies..rather,you should understand that y'all are defending the ideals of Freedom..that the entire Free World believes in and cherishes.

This is everyone's fight..and if it be God's Will and due to our vigilance and resolve..we will win.

Have a good one !


It's a fight that we started torog.

we arent defending ourselves. we're defending a defense.

You talk as if this was some incident where we innocently had nothing to do with other people wanting to attack north america.

Torog, dont be offended but I dont think you're really thinking about the welfare of every soldier fighting this war. I say this because you'd rather defend an ideal than stand up and say that what is being done is wrong.

9/11...Bush lied...condi lied...rumsfeld lied...hell ill just say the B.A. from now on.

WMD....B.A. Lied

Iraqi terrorists...B.A. LIED

Karl Rove...Bush Lied


I mean, just to save face you'd rather throw thousands of more troops at iraq than try to make up for the 1800 already dead.

Answer me this, torog. Do you think any of my above statements are false? If so, which one/ones?

And if not, then the only answer left is that every despicable thing that has happened is justified, since we're "spreading freedom". You honestly believe that even though we were lied to, it's okay because some iraqi woman gets to vote?


C'mon man. talk some shit with me.

[Psycho4Bud]

Even pisshead thought we should have removed Saddam....or in his EXACT words,"it's something we had to do for over a decade".

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=24667&page=2

[Button Basher]

Bet ya wanted Kerry to win
I don't give a shite about Kerry. He looked as much a knob-jockey as Bush.


Yipper, when the shit gets thick we should run like cowards!
That's the kind of thinking i'm talking about. I think it's a perfectly rational concept to pull the troops out (considering they don't actually need to be there) so the attacks stop. I'm not a wimp (you could say that about anyone not in the services), i'm just a thinker. People will keep dying in my country while the government persist with their ridiculous eye-for-an-eye philosophy of which doesn't actually apply to us AT ALL (at least it didn't before the 7th).
It's different for you guys, 9/11 was a big piss in the face and you deserve to get your own back (let's assume that's what this is about ;) ). Whatever the cause, it'll spiral out of control and keep on spiralling until some fundamentalist Christian in office decides to bring about the apocalypse themself. You know they can't wait for it.


Iraq does have its own govenment and the way it sounds the military will be able to handle the situation in 2006...then what'll be the next excuse for the terrorists?
That's what you've been told. I'll bet you all the Dinar's in the world Bush will be sacrificing the lives of good-hearted Americans and Britons for as long as he possibly can. Do you understand how much money he's making from this shitstorm. He's laughing in your face and you love him for it.

As pisshead said (although i'm aware how little his word means to you): There is no 'politics'. There is only greed and corruption. (Did I even get that right? :confused: :p)

Anyway, we're a lot more vulnerable than you. You've got nothing to worry about and I don't blame you for basking in that luxury.

[nicholasstanko]

Even pisshead thought we should have removed Saddam....or in his EXACT words,"it's something we had to do for over a decade".

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=24667&page=2

I'm not disagreeing with that.


Let's look at it from a stoner's point of view.

You have some weed...do you rush and jam that weed into whatever youre smoking and let huge chunks fall out and get lost and not roll/pack it properly?

Sure, in the end you'd technically be smoking weed but is the end result as fulfilling or as good as taking a good hard look and formulating a strategy in your head to pack/roll it the right way?


It's the same way with the invasion. Noone here has said that they wouldnt want to go to war if they had to...HAD to. Show me some evidence that it was a top priority to invade iraq. You can't. All you can show me is some propaganda bullshit dedicated to pulling at heartstrings instead of actual facts.

Tell me psycho, why are we in iraq? Can you tell me that iraq was the best decision for all people? Was iraq more dangerous to american sovereignty than china or north korea?

[Psycho4Bud]

Been there, done that...guess we should have let ol' boy and his buds the French, Germany, China and Russia all have their fun! :rolleyes:

[nicholasstanko]

Been there, done that...guess we should have let ol' boy and his buds the French, Germany, China and Russia all have their fun! :rolleyes:

Why do you keep running away from my question.

Why are we in iraq?

[pisshead]

i work in a tv station...the first reports we saw coming off the wire was it was a guy running onto a train...probably because he was late. then the cops shot him.

but it doesn't really matter what happens...it can be blamed on al-qaeda and that's enough for some people.

you have a better chance of being hit by lightning twice than dying from a terrorist act...but oh my god! we need to lock down cities and have millions more cops with black masks and military searching people and no 4th amendment!!! hurry, we're all going to die from the terrorists if we don't destroy the republic.

maybe we need a lightning act...to protect us all from lightning. we can be forced to stay in our homes and get cps visits so the lightning doesn't get us.

[Psycho4Bud]

Why do you keep running away from my question.

Why are we in iraq?

17 U.N. resolutions that Saddam threw the finger at. To bad the French and friends were in bed with the asshole. Ask Pisshead, he stated that Saddam needed to be removed...maybe he can explain it better to ya! :D

[nicholasstanko]

17 U.N. resolutions that Saddam threw the finger at. To bad the French and friends were in bed with the asshole. Ask Pisshead, he stated that Saddam needed to be removed...maybe he can explain it better to ya! :D

oh, you just want to use the u.n. defense?

i guess that's fine if you want to ignore israel, the country with the most resolutions.

i never said i agreed with not removing saddam. but i dont want anyone going in guns-a-blazing with no plan of action. and shit, i dont care if we were flying up to heaven to liberate angels from satanic terrorists. when you lie about it, youve lost my trust and my respect. two things you want your wing-man to have if you're both in the trenches.

[newgroweroldsmoker]

start?
wtf?
US military personnel killed
1,764 .
what ya mean start paying for this war.
our troops die almost everyday,
can almost detect a hint of wish we would get blown up tone from you?
i may be wrong if so im sorry
but i for one resent what that implied

as if america gets a free pass or some shit
it dont we pay dearly
some pay with it all

But i feel that i have to say this.....america is paying only the ''interest'' now that is losing on average 5 soldiers every day, the main ''capital'' has not been paid yet.....9/11 was just the beginning....can't you feel that?

Or did you think that you are safe?

Can't you see that you're going to suffer bigger loses than these you expect?

Did you expect the planes to fall to the towers? I don't think so!!!

Not in my wildest dream this would ever happen.....and the ''funny'' thing is that YOU the american,canadian,european,indian,african and japanese that reads these lines, can't do anything about it, nothing can change that....you, we are just going to read it on the papers and watch it happen....


NGOS:)


PS. i can't really see any other benefit of the americans to the world other than Windows-Microsoft.....hahahahaha.....only joking!!!!!!!!!!

PS2. enjoy your ''free'' life while you still can!

[Psycho4Bud]

oh, you just want to use the u.n. defense?

i guess that's fine if you want to ignore israel, the country with the most resolutions.

i never said i agreed with not removing saddam. but i dont want anyone going in guns-a-blazing with no plan of action. and shit, i dont care if we were flying up to heaven to liberate angels from satanic terrorists. when you lie about it, youve lost my trust and my respect. two things you want your wing-man to have if you're both in the trenches.

If I want to ignore Israel! If it were up to me we would have set them on their own a LONG time ago. Like Iraq, there is NO respect for resolutions but heaven forbid we pick on them. HYPOCRITS!!!

And don't give me this plan of action crap, the other U.N. powers; France, Germany, Russia, China could really have gave a crap less just as long as THEIR self interests weren't touched! Face it dude, the U.S. isn't the only dirty power in the world, we just have the most intimidating toys!

You really think Niceragua, Russia, India, and China really care about Venezualla, HELL NO. It's about the damn oil....just like the good ol' U.S.A.!

[nicholasstanko]

If I want to ignore Israel! If it were up to me we would have set them on their own a LONG time ago. Like Iraq, there is NO respect for resolutions but heaven forbid we pick on them. HYPOCRITS!!!


And don't give me this plan of action crap, the other U.N. powers; France, Germany, Russia, China could really have gave a crap less just as long as THEIR self interests weren't touched! Face it dude, the U.S. isn't the only dirty power in the world, we just have the most intimidating toys!

You really think Niceragua, Russia, India, and China really care about Venezualla, HELL NO. It's about the damn oil....just like the good ol' U.S.A.!

How am i a hypocrite. if anything, youre the hypocrite because you'd rather spread freedom to people that cant fight instead of opposing the ones that can.

Of course it's about the oil. That's the point. they signed onto the alliance to share the resources with those other countries. in the event that the resource was threatened, they promised to intervene.

[potpimp]

Howdy BB,

Tsk..tsk..you should be ashamed of asking when will America start paying for the war..if yer talkin about money,no one has out-spent the US,if yer talking about blood,we started with over 3000 folks,from countries all around the world,on 9/11/01,and we've been paying in blood since and we will continue to pay in blood..until your country is safe..but when you have idiots like the mayor of London,who gives out peace awards to those who clamor for the deaths of British citizens..yer kinda taking 2 steps back. When the BBC,uses only 3 minutes of air time,to report yesterday's incident..yer takin 2 steps back. Do ya see my point ? You're gonna have to start taking the threat of terrorism more seriously..and start calling terrorists..terrorists,instead of freedom fighters and bombers.

Congratulations..you've just managed to piss on the graves of every American soldier,who has died in order to protect your country..are ya proud of yerself ?

Have a good one....



I prefer to shit on the graves of those baby killers. America asked for 9-11. You havent paid for iraq yet, not even close

[potpimp]

Howdy BB,

Whether you like it or not..y'all do believe in Freedom and if you want to keep it,you ain't got much choice,but to defend it..that means you should'nt git hung up over whether or not that you're gittin attacked,because we're allies..rather,you should understand that y'all are defending the ideals of Freedom..that the entire Free World believes in and cherishes.

This is everyone's fight..and if it be God's Will and due to our vigilance and resolve..we will win.

Have a good one !


Freedom is just a word dumb folk use as an answer to why you are killing people, did ya git that? Making them free, stealing their oil, all the same!

[Psycho4Bud]

How am i a hypocrite. if anything, youre the hypocrite because you'd rather spread freedom to people that cant fight instead of opposing the ones that can.

Of course it's about the oil. That's the point. they signed onto the alliance to share the resources with those other countries. in the event that the resource was threatened, they promised to intervene.

I didn't call you a hypocrit...the fucks in the U.N. that turn their heads at their own leisure!

"in the event that the resource was threatened, they promised to intervene." If you would be so kind as to point out in the link where it states that one! :rolleyes:

[Psycho4Bud]

I prefer to shit on the graves of those baby killers. America asked for 9-11. You havent paid for iraq yet, not even close

Well dumb ass, I guess the best part of you dripped between the crack of your mommas ass during birth and left a lil' brown stain on the sheet! Hope they saved the part with the brain!!! :D

[Miss Green]

Well I just don't understand why the Britain Police would take such an action when they don't know the full story!WTF is going on! And in regards to the Iraq war I have always thought from day one that it was the wrong,illegal thing to do be doing.I mean do you really think it worth all these soilders lives both the Brits,Yanks,Aussies and anyone else participating.And lets not forget the Iraqi people how many people have they lost hey????? :mad: And for fucking what in the end?
:confused: :mad: :(

[Funken Monken]

A mate of mine was stood in the station as that blooke got shot. He's really REALLY shaken up - Its really not a good thing to see someone get shot. As it was, he was under the impression (and this is a primary witness remember) that the chap that ran ran becuase his coat was so full of SOMETHING that he didn't want the coppers to get a hold of him.
Has aanyone seen the weather in the UK recently? Its been nice -really hot. This guy was going into the underground (typically hot and clammy) in a massive winter coat.

Now if the polive had intelligence on this, the simple matter is THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BROADCAST IT. However I'm sure that once they've confirmed something, they'll le be known wwhy they pumped an alleged 5 rounds into this guy.

Incidently, everyone was cleared from the station and could not (apparenntly) get a view of the body, it got totall covered off by the plain cloths police dudes

[makor01]

...I wonder when America will start paying for the war...

what the fuck dude, when will we start to pay for it? how fucking blind/stupid can you be. You dont deserve an answer to that question.

why does it take events like this to make other countries open their fucking eyes...ignorance is not bliss in this situation.

[makor01]

I don't know of a beter solution other than to fix the problem. by leaving iraq. :mad:

and once again i see that you know dick about the actual situation in iraq.

leaving iraq right now would cause even more problems than we have now,it would help nothing until their own fucking police can do the jobs that they have.

If you actually think that by leaving iraq, we will somehow get rid of terrorism, youre dead fucking wrong.

[makor01]

Let's look at it from a stoner's point of view.

yeah theres a rational thought nich, when you hear the pop youll know your head is out of your ass my friend.

[makor01]

I prefer to shit on the graves of those baby killers. America asked for 9-11. You havent paid for iraq yet, not even close


Fucking rot in hell you worthless piece of shit. Assholes like you should be fucking shot on sight. Im not a fucking baby killer, neither were any of my squad members...you wanna shit on my grave?...they wouldnt let your fucking worthless ass into arlington to even give you the chance. If youre an american, i hope your fucking ass gets drafted if they ever impose that...then maybe you can see how the other half lives while you sit in mommies house and make fucking pathetic, worthless, and overall disgusting posts like you have.

I cant even honestly express how fucking pissed off i am after reading what you wrote...if you were attempting to get a rise out of people in these forums you most deff got one out of me...i think you and i should talk in person.

Plain and simple you fucking douchebag...FUCK OFF AND DIE. If i knew you, id most likely kick the living shit out of your fucking worthless ass.

[Torog]

Cheers mate :D !




Abu Hamza?
I don't recall him being given a peace award. I think that's a pretty ridiculous statement, considering every Briton in the whole country knows he's a hateful bastard (yet we let him stay in the country anyway, we're too polite you see).
He's being trialed on terrorism (chargeshttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4652693.stm). Do you mind if I ask where you heard he was given a peace award? If it was a buddy of yours, let him know he's a moron. ;)
Howdy BB,

I had the wrong cleric...


Mayor justifies cleric's welcome
Ken Livingstone has justified his decision to welcome a controversial Muslim cleric to London last year.

Egyptian-born Yusuf Al-Qaradawi has been criticised for condoning suicide bombings and having anti-Semitic and homophobic views.

The Mayor of London acknowledged that he and the cleric would not see eye-to-eye on Lesbian and Gay views.

But he said engaging with Dr Qaradawi would help enhance relations between the West and the Muslim religion.

Mr Livingstone told a press conference on Tuesday: "When you get a progressive figure who is moving that religion in the correct direction you engage and you develop it.

'Engage with cleric'

"And I don't agree with the position of Dr Qaradawi on lesbian and gay rights.

"As I said before we won't be seeing him on the next Pride march but here is the force that we need to engage with if we are to actually get a dialogue between the west and the Muslim world."

Mr Livingstone caused controversy when he embraced the cleric at a meeting in City Hall in July.

Leader of the London Assembly Conservatives Bob Neill condemned Mr Livingstone's support for the cleric. He said: "He is the type of man Mr Livingstone should, like us, be condemning not cosying up to. It's utterly unacceptable."

As you can see...I was talking about the wrong cleric,still,all the good buddy bullshit,didn't stop London from being attacked and Livingstone should not be cosying up to them preachers of hate and violence. I did the search at BBC,and found out that the mayor is most likely anti-semetic and he's said alot of bad things about President Bush and America. Y'all need to kick Livingstone to the curb,I think that his be-friending of radical muslim clerics,is just gonna cause more attacks..not less,plus his comments about President Bush,America and Americans..is driving away American tourists.

Have a good one ....

[nicholasstanko]

and once again i see that you know dick about the actual situation in iraq.

leaving iraq right now would cause even more problems than we have now,it would help nothing until their own fucking police can do the jobs that they have.

If you actually think that by leaving iraq, we will somehow get rid of terrorism, youre dead fucking wrong.

calm your ass down right there buddy. you seem to be the one running around dickless. you support the troops? don't make me laugh. you couldnt care less.

from your posts it suggests you were "supporting" the troops all through when we were lied to about 9/11....the WMD lies.....the iraqi terrorist lies...through it all.

you just dont have the balls to tell the government "enough is enough". everyday we get new evidence making pre-determined war the most likely scenario of what happened. you're just scared of being the odd man out, you dont want people to jeer at YOU and that's what makes you afraid.

you're so scared of seeing other people with enough strength to stand up, and so you get pissed. you tell me that this whole war wasnt a bed of lies...you fucking tell me that. i'll flood you with so many links and credible sources , i'll make pisshead look like a every now and then poster.

you've been spoon-fed this bullshit about destablising the country if the troops left. the COUNTRY IS ALREADY DESTABILISED! THE GOVERNMENT HAD ASKED THE U.S. TO LEAVE WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A NEW TROOP WITHDRAWAL TIMETABLE!!!!!

The whole POINT of an insurgency in ANY country is to provide a last line of defense on the homeland to REPEL INVADERS. IF THERE WERE NO FOREIGN SOLDIERS THEN THERE WOULD BE NO INSURGENCY!!

Jesus christ, why do you americans have this fantasy that you're the last straw holding everything in place. you guys went in and fucked everything up in the first place. and i dont want anyone coming with "we had a coalition" bullshit. you obviously have NO IDEA how foreign policy works. the only reason most countries sent troops was to not disturb their economic relationship with the u.s. NOT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN SPREADING HYPOCRITICAL FREEDOM.

assholes. arrogant fucking assholes.

[nicholasstanko]

yeah theres a rational thought nich, when you hear the pop youll know your head is out of your ass my friend.


how is that irrational? obviously you only smoke to get high like some stupid kid. some of us actually use it to open up our minds.

[Psycho4Bud]

calm your ass down right there buddy. you seem to be the one running around dickless. you support the troops? don't make me laugh. you couldnt care less.

from your posts it suggests you were "supporting" the troops all through when we were lied to about 9/11....the WMD lies.....the iraqi terrorist lies...through it all.

you just dont have the balls to tell the government "enough is enough". everyday we get new evidence making pre-determined war the most likely scenario of what happened. you're just scared of being the odd man out, you dont want people to jeer at YOU and that's what makes you afraid.

you're so scared of seeing other people with enough strength to stand up, and so you get pissed. you tell me that this whole war wasnt a bed of lies...you fucking tell me that. i'll flood you with so many links and credible sources , i'll make pisshead look like a every now and then poster.

you've been spoon-fed this bullshit about destablising the country if the troops left. the COUNTRY IS ALREADY DESTABILISED! THE GOVERNMENT HAD ASKED THE U.S. TO LEAVE WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A NEW TROOP WITHDRAWAL TIMETABLE!!!!!

The whole POINT of an insurgency in ANY country is to provide a last line of defense on the homeland to REPEL INVADERS. IF THERE WERE NO FOREIGN SOLDIERS THEN THERE WOULD BE NO INSURGENCY!!

Jesus christ, why do you americans have this fantasy that you're the last straw holding everything in place. you guys went in and fucked everything up in the first place. and i dont want anyone coming with "we had a coalition" bullshit. you obviously have NO IDEA how foreign policy works. the only reason most countries sent troops was to not disturb their economic relationship with the u.s. NOT BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN SPREADING HYPOCRITICAL FREEDOM.

assholes. arrogant fucking assholes.

You will never stop amazing me. Do you see this crap in a dream or read it on pissplanet? :rolleyes:

"assholes. arrogant fucking assholes" coming from you....well thats a BIG compliment!!! :D

[Breukelen advocaat]

Fucking rot in hell you worthless piece of shit. If youre an american, i hope your fucking ass gets drafted if they ever impose that...then maybe you can see how the other half lives while you sit in mommies house and make fucking pathetic, worthless, and overall disgusting posts like you have.

Potpimp, to whom the above reply was written to, is obviously French - just look at his picture.


BTW, I am the only person here that dislikes mimes?

[makor01]

calm your ass down right there buddy. you seem to be the one running around dickless. you support the troops? don't make me laugh. you couldnt care less.


So by that statement you are saying that i dont support the troops and you do?....you are more of a fucking idiot that what i thought orignially. Stay in canada douchebag cause we dont want you here. I am a "troop" and for you to say that i dont support them is totally creditless.

Nich, you and this whole fucking forum where you think youre spreading your political views is a fucking joke, get a clue man.

[makor01]

how is that irrational? obviously you only smoke to get high like some stupid kid. some of us actually use it to open up our minds.

actually bud i dont smoke. next theory?

[nicholasstanko]

Potpimp, to whom the above reply was written to, is obviously French - just look at his picture.


BTW, I am the only person here that dislikes mimes?


i posted before i hate mimes.

[nicholasstanko]

So by that statement you are saying that i dont support the troops and you do?....you are more of a fucking idiot that what i thought orignially. Stay in canada douchebag cause we dont want you here. I am a "troop" and for you to say that i dont support them is totally creditless.

Nich, you and this whole fucking forum where you think youre spreading your political views is a fucking joke, get a clue man.

fuck you. anytime when i point out your flawed american viewpoint, you bring up this canada bullshit.

Your country didn't want to tell me or any of my friends you didnt want me when you asked for our citizens to go into afghanistan.

your country didn't sponsor any huge parades or an offer of thanks to my friends signing up to die for your cause.

even bahamas has casualties. one person died. it may not be a big deal to you, but that's one person less that's alive because america asked for help. now when we get fed up and ask for answers, you tell us to mind our own business.

well, fuck you. i'm not going to shutup. i don't care whether or not you already signed up and did your tour of duty. that doesnt make your opinion worth more than mine. you self-righteous bastard.


fuck you, makor. it's people like you that help paint the view the rest of the world has of your country.

[nicholasstanko]

actually bud i dont smoke. next theory?


well then, that explains your ignorance.

[Button Basher]

Yo Nic, are you from the US? I thought you were?

[makor01]

nich youre an ignorant canadian douchebag. need i say more fuck head?

when you get a set of balls, then maybe you can talk down to me, but until then fuck you too. youll always be a fucking pussy in my book man.

[makor01]

well then, that explains your ignorance.

lmfao so im not as enlightened as you because i dont smoke...haha what a fucking joke. another useless statement by nich.

me self-righteous? naa man im just stating a fact of what i did, and saw first hand. all you see and hear is what you watch on the news or read on this fucking forum. In most of your replies i notice that you try to put words in my mouth like...
"you tell us to mind our own business.", or "even bahamas has casualties. one person died. it may not be a big deal to you". I dont remember telling you to mind your own business. I think any soldier dying is a tragedy, but its still a job that needs done, so you can be safe in mommies house to post all this bullshit spew that you post.

Nich i can tell by how you act in replies that you obviously have this complex about being wrong or challenged about something. Like in previous arguments between you and i, one time youll basically called me a woman and children killer who just wants to bomb the shit out of iraq (im referring to our convo about me shooting at a truck with a female driver that had a flat bed full of armed sand fleas).
next youll be like "oh yeah i supports the troops 100%". Your moods and opinions change like crazy and are probably linked to you not taking your recommended dose of anti-depressants or some kind of "im a loser too scared to leave my house drug".
No matter how much tv you watch or how fucking politicaly sound you think you might be, you dont know shit until you have been there. Lets say that again in more simple terms in case you didnt understand...you dont know shit!! You have friends who signed up? well good, i wish them luck...will you listen to them when they return with the same opinions and experiences as me? Will you try to convince them that terrorism will go away as soon as we leave iraq? Or will you actually try to study the worlds history and realize that its always been here and its never gonna go away?

Nich, half the time i dont agree with beeb420 but i think he had you pegged when he said that you just wanna be some kind of forum martyr. You get on these forums and cry youre left wing, right wing, youre a conserv, youre a lib, i hate god bullshit everyday and hope to make some kind of connection with all the other paranoid pissheads out there. Its really sad actually, but i guess a retard like you needs to find acceptance somewhere. Basically my opinion of you is that youre all talk and no spine. Yup thats what i said...you have no spine. I know you dont give a shit about my opinion tho, but you know what they say...others opinions hurt more when you know theyre true. Thats why you get all defensive

I can already see your reaction when you reply today, youll get all huffy and puffy and tell me that im some kind of robot who wants to kill all the people in the middle east and that im the perfect example of what is wrong with this country blah fucking blah. Its so easy for you to anonymously bash the united states, and its military from your safe, warm computer chair isnt it. You talk all this shit like "not if me and the BUK BUK BUK from my ak-47 has anything to do with it". I wouldnt be suprised if you were referring to your plastic nintendo duck hunt gun right there haha. Sad sad sad....

Well nich, you and i know that we will never agree, and that we probably hate each other quite a bit and thats fine by me. maybe someday you wont live such a cuddly warm and fuzzy life and youll finally realize that you really dont know what the fuck youre talking about.

Off to physical therapy i go, so i can get medically flagged back in to the army. What will you do today? Oh yeah thats right....nothing. Im actually quite interested to see how youre gonna twist what i just wrote around when i get back this afternoon.

-Stay black brutha.

[Button Basher]

I think this is just another petty Internet argument gone personal. I also think that Makor is probably in the right and Nic needs to chill on the personal insults. Everyone's got opinions, the difference is Makor probably has very good reasons for his. Not that i'm undermining your viewpoints Nic, but if your gonna call Makor biased then I say fair enough. I'd probably be biased too if I served in battle like he did. What happened to your civil replies that rose above it?

Anyway, you can all go home now. The guy wasn't even a terrorist and my country's a joke. Good day! :D

[amsterdam]

oh well,accidents happen.

[nicholasstanko]

yeh

"accidents" sure do.

[amsterdam]

i feel terrible for his family,but the guy brought it all on himself,and anyone who runs like he does without stopping while uniformed police are chasing you(i dont care what language you speak or what country you are from)with their guns drawn,should also be shot.

[Button Basher]

They weren't uniformed. The guy was obviously shitting himself, as anyone would if a bunch of casually dressed nutters with guns are chasing you down. I bet they didn't even shout 'POLICE' and were probably ordered to just kill him no matter what.

That's the way to do it :rolleyes: !

[amsterdam]

shit happens,maybe next time whoever it is will lay their ass down.im sure he was the only one in the world who didnt know that london had just been bombed.

[nicholasstanko]

shit happens,maybe next time whoever it is will lay their ass down.im sure he was the only one in the world who didnt know that london had just been bombed.


when innocent people die in corrupt wars, alot of generals tend to say "shit happens" when a five-year old insurgent is blown away. only thing is, they dont have the luxury of watching cnn on a nice big screen.

[amsterdam]

your goddamn right.

[nicholasstanko]

your goddamn right.


and ironically enough, thats what sickens me.

[amsterdam]

its war,not painball.never in the history of warfare has a general of an army stopped because some poor,poor innocent was killed or injured.

oh,and the generals watch the battle live on cameras attached to special forces helmets.

[nicholasstanko]

its war,not painball.never in the history of warfare has a general of an army stopped because some poor,poor innocent was killed or injured.

oh,and the generals watch the battle live on cameras attached to special forces helmets.


And can you name me one war in american history that wasnt fought based on decieving her own people or fought after all the money was drained due to corruption?

Don't answer too fast...think about it. I have an itchy reply finger.



And it'd be nice if we could see some of the "action"...

[Psycho4Bud]

And can you name me one war in american history that wasnt fought based on decieving her own people or fought after all the money was drained due to corruption?

Don't answer too fast...think about it. I have an itchy reply finger.



And it'd be nice if we could see some of the "action"...

This would be "World History" for $200, LOL, you pick the war! :D

[nicholasstanko]

This would be "World History" for $200, LOL, you pick the war! :D

and in conclusion, since everyone does it, it's justified. so much for america being an exemplar.


What's wrong, gramps? Nobody wanted to help you cross the street today? :(

[Psycho4Bud]

and in conclusion, since everyone does it, it's justified. so much for america being an exemplar.


What's wrong, gramps? Nobody wanted to help you cross the street today? :(

You really think the age thing bothers me? Hell, your momma was screaming my name the other night! :D

[nicholasstanko]

You really think the age thing bothers me? Hell, your momma was screaming my name the other night! :D


*nudges stedric* poor guy...living out a dream world...all in his head...

[brownbunk]

dont no it might be just me but nicholasstanko from reading your post you seem really stupid.and you might verywell be and ass sucker.would love to mess you up dude thats just me.

[High Agane]

well ask your self this, they were suposidly following him all the way from his house, why not stop him before he got on the buss? or before he went down into the sub way or not shoot him cause he aint dettinating shit with his hands and legs restrained, firing any sort of wepon was un nessicary, Terror is winning the war, its there wont be anymore terror attacks they do what they have to in every country once in a while and it instils fear into the hearts of the mindless, and its not that he might have had a bomb its the PARANOIA that made them shoot him cause terror causes never ending paranoia and they are doing a DAMN good job

fucking terrorists, fucking bush, fucking legal administration, SMOKE POT!

[ontariogrower]

maybe the guy shouldnt have fucking ran! he did look like a terrorist, even though he was brazilian. He looked like he was of arab descent. Maybe he should have thought before he ran and acted crazy when police were following him. I wouldnt go nuts and run for the tube if i looked like an arab and people were following me. If he didnt know who they were he could have just stopped. A cop would have been close because he was at a tube station so he could have gotten help if he thought it was someone trying to do him harm. But no! Instead he pulled a Jackie Chan and got himself shot! Life is shitty and it's sad that people have to die but he shouldnt have ran.

[ontariogrower]

America sucks. About half the people are somewhat decent and non-republican slime buckets. America is basically a nation made up of idiots and inbred republican slobs. I think some intelligent people should run America and turn it into a beautiful place. It would be gorgeous and totally wonderful if the people there weren't total fucking morons! I've been to America many times and as soon as I crossed the border from Canada, I immediately noticed how poor it was and how shitty they have it. This was in Upstate NY, not all of America is like that but from what I saw it wasn't very nice. It seemed like all of the people were rednecks and they were really struggling to live. I always expected America to be some big rich country and it's not. Most of the people are dirt poor. There are a select few who are wealthy and then there are the "middle class" and other than that, everyone is struggling their ass off. I've never seen a ghetto in Canada that was anything like an America ghetto. A Canadian ghetto is like, american middle class. It's sad.

[ontariogrower]

America is falling apart. I don't mean to insult the Americans in these forums, I just wish they would get a decent president and stop letting these idiots run their country into the ground. Just take a look at the world opinion of America and see what the world thinks about you. Guess what?! The whole world has a negative view of America, so basically, everyone in the world must be crazy, except for the Americans, or the Americans are wrong and are not being a very good neighbour to Canada or to any of the other nations of the world. There was a time when the world envied America, but now I can name tons of countries that are much nicer places to live than America! Here's a few:

Canada
The United Kingdom
France
Spain
Italy
Germany
Luxembourg
The Netherlands
Belgium
Switzerland
Finland
Sweden
Norway
Japan


I really hope America is reclaimed by it's rightful owners, the good, intelligent people of America. I hope all the backwards, overly strict, judgemental people are sent away to an island where they can all praise Jesus and pretend that being totally strict and not living is fun. They can all get drunk and have all the babies the fucking want! And the good people of America will be beautifying their country and saving it from complete anihalation, and women will have the right to choose whether to have a fucking baby of some rapist or guy that liquored them up and fucked them silly! I can only hope that in the future America will be run by people who are accepting of everyones beliefs. I can only hope that the new leaders will get rid of these useless drug and prostitution laws and give the citizens of this wonderful place the freedom they deserve. I can only hope that the citizens of America will be able to follow in the footsteps of their founding fathers and grow the beautiful varieties of Cannabis that are being grown all over the world today. They will not fear persecution and they will be free! Stop letting these pigfuckers decide what is right for you and your family! It's time for you to decide what is right! They are not the only people living on this earth! The majority of you dont share their same views! So fight back people! PRRRRAAAAISE JESSSSSUSSS Amen!!!

Yes I am very high. Sorry if i insulted you. I'm not trying to pick on America or anything. I just think you all have to change the direction of this crazy ass country you guys have and make it better or everyone is going to be miserable and in prison. Whats going to be illegal next? Singing? Drinking? Walking? It's bad enough that reporters and journalists can't even keep their sources confidential! How would we have known about the watergate scandal and all of the other scandals!!!! If journalists and reporters do not have confidentiality with sources, the sources will never tell them anything important and you, the people will never know what is really going on! Good luck friends!

[makor01]

"America sucks. About half the people are somewhat decent and non-republican slime buckets."

I really hope America is reclaimed by it's rightful owners, the good, intelligent people of America.

That sounds rather contradicting if you ask me...take your opinion of america and shove them up your fucking canadian ass. You sound like a douchebag majorly...maybe you and Nicholas can get together and fuck each other while you express you bullshit opinions on america. Fuck you buddy. I dont care if youre high or not, you must have taken the time to think up this bullshit reply...so using "im high" as an excuse is almost as bad as your fucking post in general.

[High Agane]

hahaha good call man that guy is buggin face and full of fucking shit man
he should get the fuck outta here

**toke toke**

[Button Basher]

This forums a joke. I'm outta here!

Safe guys. Have a good... whatever.

[amsterdam]

America is falling apart. I don't mean to insult the Americans in these forums, I just wish they would get a decent president and stop letting these idiots run their country into the ground. Just take a look at the world opinion of America and see what the world thinks about you. Guess what?! The whole world has a negative view of America, so basically, everyone in the world must be crazy, except for the Americans, or the Americans are wrong and are not being a very good neighbour to Canada or to any of the other nations of the world. There was a time when the world envied America, but now I can name tons of countries that are much nicer places to live than America! Here's a few:

Canada
The United Kingdom
France
Spain
Italy
Germany
Luxembourg
The Netherlands
Belgium
Switzerland
Finland
Sweden
Norway
Japan


I really hope America is reclaimed by it's rightful owners, the good, intelligent people of America. I hope all the backwards, overly strict, judgemental people are sent away to an island where they can all praise Jesus and pretend that being totally strict and not living is fun. They can all get drunk and have all the babies the fucking want! And the good people of America will be beautifying their country and saving it from complete anihalation, and women will have the right to choose whether to have a fucking baby of some rapist or guy that liquored them up and fucked them silly! I can only hope that in the future America will be run by people who are accepting of everyones beliefs. I can only hope that the new leaders will get rid of these useless drug and prostitution laws and give the citizens of this wonderful place the freedom they deserve. I can only hope that the citizens of America will be able to follow in the footsteps of their founding fathers and grow the beautiful varieties of Cannabis that are being grown all over the world today. They will not fear persecution and they will be free! Stop letting these pigfuckers decide what is right for you and your family! It's time for you to decide what is right! They are not the only people living on this earth! The majority of you dont share their same views! So fight back people! PRRRRAAAAISE JESSSSSUSSS Amen!!!

Yes I am very high. Sorry if i insulted you. I'm not trying to pick on America or anything. I just think you all have to change the direction of this crazy ass country you guys have and make it better or everyone is going to be miserable and in prison. Whats going to be illegal next? Singing? Drinking? Walking? It's bad enough that reporters and journalists can't even keep their sources confidential! How would we have known about the watergate scandal and all of the other scandals!!!! If journalists and reporters do not have confidentiality with sources, the sources will never tell them anything important and you, the people will never know what is really going on! Good luck friends!


have you even lived in ANY of those countries??

im sure you havent,not very cultured are ya.