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HARDDON
07-19-2005, 05:23 AM
Note on WHORE....
The fan leaves and the single bladed leaves are turning crispy and dry and brown....While the inside flowers are drawing all the goodies out of the cover leaves at an accelerated rate now.
Since I cut a lot of the leaves, the plant has kicked into survival rather than thrival mode. Hence the rapid death of the fan leaves as opposed to gradual death.
It is theorizied that once a plant has fully developed and matures her flower positions, this can be done to increase resin and hence THC production will rapidly accelerate in a few days after entering survival mode.
This will shorthen the grow by about a week...but I am banking on it producing a stronger high.
I prefer the quality over quantity.
WHile this can be done also by finalinzing flower time in light to 10 hours a day, this method will eliminate all potential "harshness" of the smoke itself. And since my heat was so high, I have the potential for some harsh smoke.
And finally, it will force the trichs to swell larger on the flower pods and pistels themselves as opposed to forming also on the leafy part of the weed. much of which would have been cut anyhow.
I just hope I didnt over do it and create a total power system failure...in that case my bud will be done in a week....which would be a total of 7 weeks as opposed to 9.
I might lose a few grams if that happens....but I dont think it will...
Take a good close up look....and let me know what ya think....
Ya gotta experiment....right? :)
sheist
07-19-2005, 05:44 AM
ur a fuckin genious! can u send me seeds in case i fucked these up? i dun need the special shit.. bag seeds would be fine..
i've stooped this low... :confused:
HARDDON
07-19-2005, 05:49 AM
sure...i have some white widows, afghan, coffee, ice and some other shit....
but i'll send you some bag seed first so you can grow a crop and not fuck it up..LOL
email me the addy and you gotta be over 18 :D
ROFLMAO
sheist
07-19-2005, 05:57 AM
alot of bag seed, i sent u an email
Nochowderforyou
07-19-2005, 09:30 PM
Your plants give me wood man! I like them, looking tasty as fuck!
What's this 10hrs on 14hrs off buisness I keep hearing about? Can you explain it to me, what's its beneifts?
HARDDON
07-20-2005, 12:19 AM
I can share with you what I know....
You can finish a grow in an expeditied manner...ie...force the maturation of the flower, hence makeing THC production rise...by taking the flower period to 10 hours of light instead of 12.
THC is produced in the MJ plant in dark and diminishes in the light. Thats is why, when you do harvest, always do it within the first hour of light or in their dark cycle.
The added darkness (14 hours) will allow the plant or rather forcr the plant to start the final act of survival...spewing resin.
The down side...or flip side....is you lose flower growth time, thus yield.
Or in a situation where you need to harvest early, for what ever reason, cutting them to 10/14 will finish the grow for you early.
Many growers keep the plants in total darkness for 48 hours before harvesting to force resin production.
This is how Whore and Cunt will meet their fate.
Hope this clears things up and doesnt confuse.
latewood
07-20-2005, 12:20 AM
plants look fat Hardon...I plan on going back alittle and trying to find some more of your updates...
did you receive my e-mail @hush
PartypokerPlayer
07-20-2005, 02:19 AM
very nice hard...those look really nice and im sure they have a great smell....we gotta have a good harvest update on that :D the works...smell yeild and all :) ...PPP
HARDDON
07-20-2005, 02:51 AM
Thanks guys.
If you have rec'd a response from my hushmail account regarding the free samples of Whore and Cunt...then I have responded likewise.
I have not checked since this afternoon but I will shortly.
I have upped the free samples from five to 15 to accomodate all the requests.
But I cant go anymore.....
I still want some myself :D
And yes, HARD ON will deliver his promises :)
I am itching to go on the next round in a hurry.
Really excited to try some new things and some new tonics.
On WHORE, she continues her rapid crisping of the fan leaves...a bit more rapid than I would like to see. I have moved her down further from the light but I think she is having more problems respirating than I had hoped.
But, I still think all will be well......resin is drizzling on her now...
Will update tomoro.
latewood
07-20-2005, 03:55 AM
Hey, Hardon, I see you are monitoring this thread. I know the answer to this question, but I wanted to see what you or Zandor had to say...I started a thread a while ago and I don't know, maybe it was too vague...I have 11 females 5dwc/6soil
they are all doing great, but this afternoon and overnight, I found a tiny pinhead seed.
I touched it and it wiped right off on my finger...This is the smallest plant I have, stunted somehow, but budding/pistils delicate, but look good..Should I cull it, seperate it, or watch it for a couple more days...I have an awesome Indica w/ the hairiest buds I've ever seen and I don't want to hermie it, or the other 9 sativa...what do you think..
Thanks ahead and come back...latewood
holy shit them cum bags look GREATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!! fat and slutty just like we like em.:D
rock on man awsome job
monstermunchies
07-20-2005, 04:36 AM
wait, am i to understand harddon is sending seeds to people? for free?
HARDDON
07-20-2005, 05:30 AM
latewood...
balls are grown like grapes kinda... they cluster...and they dont wipe off....
and they grow UP most of the time.
I dont think you found a pin head seed....but i could be wrong...i will see if you posted a pic of it.
Seeds are usually deep deep inside the flower...inside a little pod.
is that what you saw?
MONSTERMUNCHIES...
no i wasnt giving away seeds i was giving away samples of my cunt and whore :)
monstermunchies
07-20-2005, 06:47 AM
oh, well, then, i wouldnt mind a sample, but i dont have your email, if your interested in giving me a sample, heres my email,
[email protected]
stickygreenlightsabr
07-20-2005, 07:13 AM
HARDDON, let me know if you still have room for your offer. How are you packaging this stuff? :)
latewood
07-20-2005, 12:41 PM
thanks, Hardon, I thought it was a bit odd, man I don't want to lose another one...11 of 18 left...11 females from my seed ...I'm still happy-go lucky about that...
I tried to e-mail you 3 times from hushmail.com since 1100 hours yesterday, have received no reply;;;
[email protected], thanks
HARDDON
07-20-2005, 12:48 PM
HARDDON, let me know if you still have room for your offer. How are you packaging this stuff? :)
to those that have replied in time....i will be rolling you a nice cigarette.
lakewood, please, you need to initiate the request...
once more
[email protected]
I will handle you and stickysabre (sticky email me)...and monster (from a hushmail account)....but thats all for this one gang.
i have my quota! :)
bruiser
07-20-2005, 12:54 PM
Harddon just wondering about the 14 hours of darkness,do you apply only 10 hours of light through the entire flowing stage? or do you say flower at 12/12 for several weeks then roll back to 10 hours of light for the last few weeks?
Thanks...
latewood
07-20-2005, 12:59 PM
OK i am going to try hushmail for a 4th time and also from my hotmail acct just so you see that I am trying to comply, just can't believe 3 e-mails..oops wait a minute LMAO, I think I spelled your name with one d, well we will go try again now......appreciate it, latewood
latewood
07-20-2005, 01:37 PM
alright! maybe you will get the message, this time, Now let me see if I got this right. the grapes, they always cluster? There is never a time when just one pops out?
I hope your right, and what is the timeframe that the fem's will be able to change? Is it the entire flowering period? I am about to week 5...just trying to clarify this topic once and for all...latewood
HARDDON
07-20-2005, 01:37 PM
I have read here from Zandor where I think he advises 10/14 for the first week...then 12/12 thru harvest...i think....
I only advise the 10/14 for the final week....
you can do it for the last couple of weeks....ONLY...if you have to hurry it up for some reason.
Other than that, I say 12/12 for the entire flower stage....10/14 last week, and then total dark for 24 - 36 hours right before the day the ladies meet their fate.
bruiser
07-20-2005, 02:27 PM
Thanks dude,great information there I must say...I am doing the sea of green,under 1000w HPS looking for lots of resin lol...first time ever attempting the sea of green method as well as my first time flowering with a 1000w HPS.looking for juicy fat cola's lol.....I got 16 blue berry,12 shiva's not sure which strain 10 ultra black cambodian,I believe she is a hash plant! 10 widow,and another 8 from bag seed don't know the strain from the bag seed but have been clong her now for the last year or more she is a kick ass plant........
HARDDON
07-20-2005, 02:43 PM
bruiser...
thats sounds phenom....
got any pics?? would love to see the sog...think thats what i gonna do next....
thanks
bruiser
07-20-2005, 02:55 PM
O'k cool I'll get some pics together,as soon as I get the brothers didge camera again lol,in a couple of days or so....they are only in flower now about 13 days ,lots of pistols with the white hairs lol,they are all clones by the way,I have mothers for all my strains.........The Blueberry and the cambodian are gone nuts lol,they already doubled in size in the last 13 days,Hope they slow down a little lol,then again maybe not lol,I guess where I am doing the sog with several different strains I might have my hands full,because some of the strains are out growing the smaller strains....either way my Grow room is blocked with green ,it's everywhere..
HARDDON
07-20-2005, 03:50 PM
fuck i cant wait to see that....
i bet you just sit down there and get stoned and bask in your garden eh?
i coming over.
snow owl
07-20-2005, 06:19 PM
H.D. how long are those colas? In addition to speeding up the ripening of flowers, I offer another technique. 2 tbs confectionous sugar/gal water 3weeks before supposed finishing time. Also sweetens smoke. saves a week. Adding sugar to early will delay flowering.
Peace
HARDDON
07-20-2005, 07:28 PM
Confectioners Sugar huh???
Well i have never heard that....i was definately going to use some orange oil of essence on WHore.........
Have you ever tried the sugar personally?
The Main Kola is about 17" long....
Two others are now about 13"
One is 13" also, but has a bare spot at about 7" below so it doesnt count.
Oughta see the main kola on Cunt....
I will update Cunt tonight :)
Talk about a fat cunt.......waittil you see her :eek:
snow owl
07-20-2005, 08:24 PM
Dam thats big. No, not personally, but Im going to try it this time. I read it in a book by Tom Flowers which is dedicated strictly to the flowering phase of MJ.
Nochowderforyou
07-20-2005, 10:10 PM
Sounds nice hard-on. I'll be looking for your pictures later.
I killed my bitch today :( , but after seeing how smelly and potent she's going to be, I look forward to burning her :cool:
HARDDON
07-21-2005, 02:17 AM
Here are some updated pics of WHORE...
I think her power systems are stabilizing.....rate of regression seems to have peaked....will resume bombardment with the UV Rays tonight....
Lower growth still bright green...healthy and no frizzing....so all appears to have gone as hoped... (WHEW!)
I think if I had gone one more leaf she might have bit the dust....but i love to push the envelope in all things anyhow....
I dont recommend this procedure of fan leaf removal for the faint of heart.....
But look.....it can be done :)
Now on the close up pic of the bud......note how the immediate trichs have begun to plaster themselves on the flower pods themselves...
which is really the only thing I care to smoke...in addition to the hairs :)
not long now.....
I am going to Jamaica on the 4th of August.....so she will be drying....
Gotta setup an auto dry system now......
just wish the world was a friendlier place that would let me cart around my grow closet as I deemed neccessary :D
Hope you like....
latewood
07-21-2005, 03:04 AM
that's great, glad the leaf removal didn't hurt..I did that last week, went crazy, got a bag full of leaves, basically the same situation you had, too many canopy suckers not enough bud, anyway mine perked back up yesterday...I had to tie little machine nuts to the top of MY big ass sativa, because it shot another foot or so this past week, right into my lights...she's about 7 feet now...Man is this fun, I experiment and pray.
I have tried to maintain some consistency throughout though...
I remember a few weeks ago that you were going to go to Jamaica...Me and the ol' lady responded that we wish we could go, but the timings bad...oops that was the thread that got you a vacation before your vacation...latewood
HARDDON
07-21-2005, 03:08 AM
Damn man...wish you could come...
I could take you out to the fields where the ganja grows...
Although now even the Jamaicans are growing indoors.
Say the hurricanes keep fucking with their money....
latewood
07-21-2005, 03:18 AM
that's cool, while you were replying, I went to my room and did a lights out check, I still am watching that bonsai, and it looks like there might be the start of 2 seeds,
this is the one I mentioned y'day....Good news though! I see a root hair on one of my clones! This is my first clone baby...have a cigar
Did you see my reply on the flavor thread, about the coca-cola?
HARDDON
07-21-2005, 12:54 PM
No but I will check it out.
Thx.
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