FLIGHT 93 SHOT DOWN

[pisshead]

how dare these eye witnesses of the shoot down question the feds' authority. what treason!



http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/flight_93.html






FLIGHT 93 SHOT DOWN

Eyewitness Reports at Odds With Official Scenario





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INDIAN LAKE, Pennsylvaniaâ??Eyewitness testimonies have generally been excluded from the official version of 9-11. In the Shanksville area, where many residents believe Flight 93 was shot down, there are scores of eyewitnesses whose testimonies contradict the governmentâ??s claim that courageous passengers fought hijackers, forcing the jetliner to crash rather than be flown into a building.

Some local residents here are deeply offended by the official explanation of what supposedly happened to United Airlines Flight 93, calling it a patriotic pack of lies.

Fearful of retribution from federal agents, many eyewitnesses who spoke with American Free Press asked that their names not be published.

While differing on some details of the plane said to be Flight 93, which passed over Lambertsville, eyewitnesses agree that unexplained military aircraft were in the immediate vicinity when a huge explosive â??fireballâ?� occurred at the reclaimed coal mine near Shanksville.

Viola Saylor saw Flight 93 pass very low over her house in Lambertsville, which is a mile north of the official crash site. She was in her backyard when she heard a very loud noise and looked up to find herself â??nose to noseâ?� with Flight 93, which she says was flying â??upside downâ?� as it passed overhead. It was blue and silver, she said, and glistened in the sunlight. It was so low that it rustled the leaves of her 100-foot maple tree in her yard.

It flew southeastward for about three more seconds and even gained elevation before it crashed over the hill with a â??thud,â?� she said.

â??It was really still for a second,â?� she said. â??Then all of a suddenâ?� she saw a â??very quietâ?� and low-flying white â??militaryâ?� plane coming from the area of the crash site, flying toward the northwest.

â??It was flying very fast, like it was trying to get out of here,â?� she said. â??A second or twoâ?� behind the â??militaryâ?� plane were two other planes, which Saylor described as â??normalâ?� planes.

Shown a photograph of a Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt II, a low-flying combat aircraft commonly referred to as a â??Warthog,â?� Saylor identified it as the military plane she had seen. She said she recognized the two engines on the rear and the distinctive shape of the cockpit and nose of the plane.

Similar eyewitness reports of military planes over Shanksville on 9-11 remain censored by the U.S. corporate media, although they were reported in two leading British newspapers.

Susan McElwain, a local teacher, also reported seeing a white â??militaryâ?� plane at the scene of the crash before witnessing an explosion. Ms. Mcelwain told The Daily Mirror what she saw:

â??It came right over me, I reckon just 40 or 50 feet above my mini-van,â?� she recalled. â??It was so low I ducked instinctively. It was traveling real fast, but hardly made any sound.

â??Then it disappeared behind some trees. A few seconds later I heard this great explosion and saw this fireball rise up over the trees, so I figured the jet had crashed. The ground really shook. So I dialed 911 and told them what happened.

â??Iâ??d heard nothing about the other attacks and it was only when I got home and saw the TV that I realized it wasnâ??t the white jet, but Flight 93.

â??I didnâ??t think much more about it until the authorities started to say there had been no other plane. The plane I saw was heading right to the point where Flight 93 crashed and must have been there at the very moment it came down.

â??Thereâ??s no way I imagined this planeâ??it was so low it was virtually on top of me. It was white with no markings but it was definitely military, it just had that look.

â??It had two rear engines, a big fin on the back like a spoiler on the back of a car and with two upright fins at the side,â?� Ms. McElwain said. â??I havenâ??t found one like it on the Internet. It definitely wasnâ??t one of those executive jets.

[However,] the FBI came and talked to me and said there was no plane around.â?�

The plane Ms. McElwain describes is similar to the Warthog seen by Saylor over Lambertsville.

â??Then [FBI agents] changed their story and tried to say it was a plane taking pictures of the crash 3,000 feet up,â?� she said. â??But I saw it, and it was there before the crash, and it was 40 feet above my head. They did not want my storyâ??nobody here did.â?�

The U.S. media has only reported what Bill Crowley, FBI spokesman from Pittsburgh, said about other planes in the area: â??Two other airplanes were flying near the hijacked United Airlines jet when it crashed, but neither had anything to do with the airlinerâ??s fate.â?�

In an apparent slip of the tongue, Crowley said one of the planes, â??a Fairchild Falcon 20 business jet,â?� had been directed to the crash site to help rescuers. The Falcon 20, however, is made by Dassault of France while Fairchild made the A-10 Thunderbolt II, the plane described by Ms. Mcelwain and identified by other eyewitnesses.

The Daily American of nearby Somerset did not want Ms. McElwainâ??s story. In fact, the local paper has never reported that at least 12 local residents saw several unexplained aircraft at the time of the crash.

Asked why the paper has not mentioned these eyewitness reports, managing editor Brian P. Whipkey told AFP â??They could not be substantiated.â?�

THE SCREAMING THING

At the horseshoe-shaped Indian Lake, about a mile east of the official crash site, several eyewitnesses recalled hearing â??a screaming thingâ?� that â??screechedâ?� as it passed over the golf course and lakeside community immediately before a huge explosion shook the ground.

Chris Smith, the groundskeeper at the golf course, said something with a â??very loud screeching soundâ?� passed over in the immediate vicinity of the golf course before he heard a huge explosion.

â??It was like nothing Iâ??ve ever heard before,â?� Smith said.

The explosion that followed sounded like a â??sonic boom,â?� he said. Smith and others said they felt the shock wave from the explosion.

Smith said he was used to seeing a variety of military aircraft from the nearby Air National Guard bases in Johnstown and Cumberland, Md.

Another groundskeeper said he saw a silver plane pass overhead toward the crash site from the southeast after hearing the loud â??screechingâ?� sound. The large silver plane was at an elevation of several thousand feet, he said.

A local veteran who flew combat helicopters in the Vietnam War told AFP that the high-pitched screeching sound was indicative of a missile.

Shown a photo of an A-10 Warthog, the groundskeeper identified it as the kind of plane that circled the crash site at a very low altitude three times before flying away. He recognized the two vertical fins on the rear of the plane. â??Nobody was interested in what we saw,â?� he said. â??They didnâ??t even ask us.â?�

Mobile telephones and satellite televisions in the Indian Lake area did not work at the time of the crash, he said. Paul Muro was in his yard in Lambertsville when Flight 93 passed overhead. Muro, who lives a half-mile closer to the crash site than Saylor, said the plane was flying rightside up and normally, although it was very low.

Muro told AFP that he also saw a large silver plane approaching from the south, the opposite direction of Flight 93, above the crash site at the time of the explosion.

The silver plane then turned and headed back in the direction from which it had come, he said.

Tom Spinelli works at the Indian Lake Marina. After 9- 11, he told a Pittsburgh television news reporter about the unexplained aircraft he saw. â??I saw the white plane,â?� he said.

â??It was flying around all over the place like it was looking for something,â?� he said. â??I saw it before and after the crash.â?�

AFP visited the marina and asked Spinelli about the planes he saw on 9-11.
â??Iâ??m sorry,â?� Spinelli said. â??No commentâ?? is all I can say.â?�

An Indian Lake resident told AFP that federal agents had visited the marina after Spinelli had spoken to the Pittsburgh news channel, TV 4, and told him to stop talking about what he saw.

Local firefighters were also told not to talk about what they had seen at the crash site.

(Issue #30, July 25, 2005)

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[pisshead]

Former Vietnam Combat and Commericial Pilot Firm Believer 9/11 Was Inside Government Job

Greg Szymanski | July 17 2005 (http://www.lewisnews.com/article.asp?ID=106623)

There was no fooling former Air Force and commercial pilot Russ Wittenberg the morning of 9/11. He knew it was an inside job from the get-go, knowing the â??big boysâ?? were up to the same dirty tricks they played in the Kennedy assassination and Pearl Harbor.

The government may have fooled millions of Americans with its cockamamie official story, but the former fighter pilot who flew over 100 combat missions in Vietnam and who sat for 35 years in the cockpit for Pan Am and United, wasnâ??t one of them.

Now, almost four years later, Wittenberg is still shaking his head in disbelief more than ever, saying the country he loved and fought so bravely 40 years ago has fallen in the deep, dark and sinister hands of fascist leaders who are quickly turning America into a military state.

Although back in the beginning he seemed like a lone wolf in the hen house, heâ??s noticed, especially in the last six months, more Americans waking up to the cold reality that the U.S. government staged 9/1l, started an illegal war in Iraq and basically is criminally responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of innocent lives here and abroad.

Even though itâ??s a hard pill for some to swallow, Wittenberg says Americans need to â??wake up and wake up fast,â?� holding those in government responsible even though it may mean a total makeover of the American political system.

And for these despicable actions now taking place in the name of freedom, the former F-100 Vietnam fighter pilot, who knows what itâ??s like to be in harms way, directed a little military jab toward the Commander and Chief, saying: â??Oh, why doesnâ??t he wake up and just fall on his sword.â?�

Talking about his obvious disgust for the Bush administration, he bundles 9/11 into the neo conâ??s â??neat little contrived war package,â?� saying it was the lynch pin needed to usher in a state of constant fear, a climate of war and a perfect setting for the unconstitutional Patriot Act and eventual martial law.

â??If you would have told me back in the 1970s this was going to happen to America, I would have never imagined it. Itâ??s just not the same country I grew up in as all our Constitutional freedoms are being stripped away right before our very eyes,â?� said Wittenberg in a telephone conversation from his home in Carefree Az., a picturesque and serene place on the map near Scottsdale.

â??The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple. I also thoroughly went over the recent 9/11 Commission report, finding about 110 outright lies and numerous other half-truths and omissions in an obvious cover-up of not only the truth but of a criminal investigation.

â??Condaleeza Rice lied through her teeth when she testified and if I would have had her on the stand for 10 minutes, I would have had her in tears.â?�

Concerning 9/11, Wittenberg knew right off the bat the hijackers - who couldnâ??t handle a Piper Cub - couldnâ??t fly the â??big birdsâ?� he flew for so many years, knowing the planes were also incapable of performing such high speed maneuvers as the government claimed.

He also knew the possibility of jet fuel bringing down the towers made no sense. In fact, he knew the whole 9/11 story made about as much sense as crossing the Atlantic in a row boat.

And right after 9/11 when it was unpopular and considered almost treasonous to question the government, Wittenberg became the first commercial airline pilot with experience flying the jets used in 9/11 to publicly denounce the government story.

Although speaking publicly on many occasions about the fictitious government account of 9/11, it wasnâ??t until Sept. 16, 2004, his controversial remarks aired on Wing TV, sparking a heated debate among pilots and others clinging to the flimsy government account.

Knowing the flight characteristics of the â??big birdsâ?� like the back of his hand, Wittenberg convincingly argued there was absolutely no possibility that Flight 77could have â??descended 7,000 feet in two minutes, all the while performing a steep 270 degree banked turn before crashing into the Pentagonâ??s first floor wall without touching the lawn.â?�

Wittenberg claimed the high speed maneuver would have surely stalled the jetliner sending it into a nose dive, adding it was â??totally impossible for an amateur who couldnâ??t even fly a Cessna to maneuver the jetliner in such a highly professional manner, something Wittenberg said he couldnâ??t do with 35 years of commercial jetliner experience.

â??For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible â?? there is not one chance in a thousand,â?� said Wittenberg, recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727â??s to the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737â??s through 767â??s it took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying.

â??I had to be trained to use the new, computerized systems. I just couldnâ??t jump in and fly one,â?� he added.

Finding more inconsistencies with the government story about Flight 77, Wittenberg recalled the recent statements made by a flight controller on an ABC 20/20 television program three months ago.

â??If you listened to her carefully only an experienced pilot probably would have known that what she was saying was scripted,â?� said Wittenberg. â??Remember the transponder was turned off on Flight 77 and when this occurs, all the particular flight data like air speed and even the planeâ??s flight identification goes with it.

â??All thatâ??s left on the controllerâ??s screen is a green blip, thatâ??s it. But here you have this flight controller on 20/20 saying she was tracking the flight with specific air speed and other coordinates which was totally impossible once the transponder was turned off. How would she even have known the flight number? The whole story is a pack of lies and this is just another example.â?�

And from the moment Wittenberg called attention to the lies, heâ??s been in the cross hairs defending his story, defending it by using a little bit of psychology, a lot of history and asking critics to answer questions before drawing conclusions.

â??Iâ??ve learned over the years, itâ??s hard to change anybodyâ??s mind when they really arenâ??t listening,â?� said Wittenberg. â??So, I just decided to fire back a lot of questions to those people who believe the government story.

â??I ask them explain how Building No.7 collapsed? I ask them why havenâ??t the â??black boxesâ?� been recovered? I ask them to explain how jet fuel â?? fuel that burns cold not hot -- could bring down two high rise structures when more than 90% of the fuel on board burned outside the buildings?â?�

And Wittenberg has hundreds of other tough questions ready, but said itâ??s also important to put 9/11 and the Iraq war in a historical prospective.

â??Is 9/11 and the phony war on terror any different or more serious than Pearl Harbor and World War II?,â?� asks Wittenberg. â??The bottom line is all wars are contrived and it is these rich bankers and financiers who have pulled the strings and who have put these contrived events like 9/11 and Pearl Harbor into motion.â?�

Turning to the recent London bombings, Wittenberg said heâ??s tired of the â??talking headsâ?? trying to analyze how to counter terror when â??the real cause and effect issuesâ?� about the root problems with America and the world are being ignored.

â??Itâ??s simply bizarre. Maybe our one-sided foreign policy that keeps getting us into all this trouble around the world should be seriously questioned,â?� said Wittenberg. â??If we are really fighting terror, why are our borders just to the south completely wide open? Itâ??s a joke.â?�

Claiming the entire neo con scenario now playing out in America and around the world is based on the attempt to establish a one world government controlled by a select few, he said itâ??s difficult to figure out their true motives, adding he can only offer an educated guess based on what heâ??s studied and read.

â??Power corrupts, money isnâ??t enough and these people want total control,â?� added Wittenberg. â??These elites actually think they are better than everybody else and basically want power and control over the diminishing resources by creating a one world government.

Regarding another terror attack on American soil coming on the heels of the London bombings, he said â??itâ??s not if but when,â?� claiming the unconstitutional Patriot Act is waiting in the wings to silence those Americans who may not fall in line with the governmentâ??s eventual takeover.

â??They passed it for a reason. The problem with our two party system is that the same group of gangsters controls both parties,â?� said Wittenberg, who didnâ??t vote for Bush or Kerry in the last election and was the former Arizona state chairman for Pat Buchanonâ??s failed presidential run in 2000.

Although Wittenberg remains politically active and abreast of world affairs, he has left the political forefront, trying instead to raise public awareness about the danger of the neo con agenda.

â??More people are listening now, but it doesnâ??t surprise me that still a lot of people just donâ??t want to get involved, thinking things are just fine in America,â?� he added. â??These people are perfectly content to play golf, watch the ballgame and not get involved.â?�

Wittenberg, who retired the day before 9/11 having a strange and unexplainable premonition, said high gas prices have led him to sell his private plane, saying it was getting too expensive to even â??fly for funâ?? anymore.

[potpimp]

Do you do anyhting else with your life but read about 9-11? What a sad, angry and lonely person you must be. I bet you are big fun at parties too.

[pisshead]

nope, not sad...not lonely...definitely not angry...i'm sure you could think of something else i might be, so you don't have to think what these eye witnesses said. former bush administration members, high level, have come forward saying the same things. ignore them though.

it concerns me greatly that our government might be lying about 9/11...and have lied openly about it dozens and dozens of times.

the sad thing, is that they can do this, but you care more about partying, which makes it easier to get away with. i can't help it if you don't care. just because you don't care doesn't mean there aren't people that do. and i know a lot that actually care about their country.

bombing iraq doesn't keep you free, watching your local government and feds like a hawk and blowing the whistle on corruption and having a free, independent press keeps you free, and free speech...you fight for that at home.

people i know, poor and rich, i can talk with this about, and can give me back intelligent responses, even if they disagree. i can't even get that from you.

[nicholasstanko]

Do you do anyhting else with your life but read about 9-11? What a sad, angry and lonely person you must be. I bet you are big fun at parties too.

wow, you're so quick to judge and jump to conclusions. do you know anything about pisshead? do you even know wht he looks like?


you sound like torog, making false assumptions about muslims.


Do you do anything with your life except criticise others for their viewpoints and opinions? What a close-minded, narrow and retarded person you must be. I bet you are big fun klan rallies.

see how my assumptions can paint you in a different light regardless of whether or not i have any fucking clue as to who you are?



all hail intolerance.

[yocass]

While differing on some details of the plane said to be Flight 93, which passed over Lambertsville, eyewitnesses agree that unexplained military aircraft were in the immediate vicinity when a huge explosive â??fireballâ?� occurred at the reclaimed coal mine near Shanksville.

Viola Saylor saw Flight 93 pass very low over her house in Lambertsville, which is a mile north of the official crash site. She was in her backyard when she heard a very loud noise and looked up to find herself â??nose to noseâ?� with Flight 93, which she says was flying â??upside downâ?� how the heck did it get upside down? as it passed overhead. It was blue and silver, she said, and glistened in the sunlight. It was so low that it rustled the leaves of her 100-foot maple tree in her yard.

It flew southeastward for about three more seconds and even gained elevation before it crashed over the hill with a â??thud,â?� she said.

â??It was really still for a second,â?� she said. â??Then all of a suddenâ?� she saw a â??very quietâ?� and low-flying white â??militaryâ?� plane coming from the area of the crash site, flying toward the northwest.

â??It was flying very fast, like it was trying to get out of here,â?� aren't jets ALWAYS fast, regardless of their intent? she said. â??A second or twoâ?� behind the â??militaryâ?� plane were two other planes, which Saylor described as â??normalâ?� planes.

Shown a photograph of a Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt II, a low-flying combat aircraft commonly referred to as a â??Warthog,â?� Saylor identified it as the military plane she had seen. She said she recognized the two engines on the rear and the distinctive shape of the cockpit and nose of the plane.you can not show someone a picture then when they say yeah thats it take it as credible evidence. Thats why line ups have more than one person in them, people get confused easily. And the A-10 is an anti-tank weapon primarily. And almost exclusively air to surface. This is why they fly with fighter jets to protect them.

Similar eyewitness reports of military planes over Shanksville on 9-11 remain censored by the U.S. corporate media, although they were reported in two leading British newspapers.

Susan McElwain, a local teacher, also reported seeing a white â??militaryâ?� plane at the scene of the crash before witnessing an explosion. Ms. Mcelwain told The Daily Mirror what she saw:

â??It came right over me, I reckon just 40 or 50 feet above my mini-van,â?� she recalled. â??It was so low I ducked instinctively. It was traveling real fast, but hardly made any sound. warthogs are notoriously LOUD

â??Then it disappeared behind some trees. A few seconds later I heard this great explosion and saw this fireball rise up over the trees, so I figured the jet had crashed. The ground really shook. So I dialed 911 and told them what happened.

â??Iâ??d heard nothing about the other attacks and it was only when I got home and saw the TV that I realized it wasnâ??t the white jet, but Flight 93.

â??I didnâ??t think much more about it until the authorities started to say there had been no other plane. The plane I saw was heading right to the point where Flight 93 crashed and must have been there at the very moment it came down.

â??Thereâ??s no way I imagined this planeâ??it was so low it was virtually on top of me. It was white with no markings but it was definitely military, it just had that look.

â??It had two rear engines, a big fin on the back like a spoiler on the back of a car and with two upright fins at the side,â?� Ms. McElwain said. â??I havenâ??t found one like it on the Internet. It definitely wasnâ??t one of those executive jets.

[However,] the FBI came and talked to me and said there was no plane around.â?�

The plane Ms. McElwain describes is similar to the Warthog seen by Saylor over Lambertsville.

â??Then [FBI agents] changed their story and tried to say it was a plane taking pictures of the crash 3,000 feet up,â?� she said. â??But I saw it, and it was there before the crash, and it was 40 feet above my head. They did not want my storyâ??nobody here did.â?�

The U.S. media has only reported what Bill Crowley, FBI spokesman from Pittsburgh, said about other planes in the area: â??Two other airplanes were flying near the hijacked United Airlines jet when it crashed, but neither had anything to do with the airlinerâ??s fate.â?�

In an apparent slip of the tongue, Crowley said one of the planes, â??a Fairchild Falcon 20 business jet,â?� had been directed to the crash site to help rescuers. The Falcon 20, however, is made by Dassault of France while Fairchild made the A-10 Thunderbolt II, the plane described by Ms. Mcelwain and identified by other eyewitnesses.

The Daily American of nearby Somerset did not want Ms. McElwainâ??s story. In fact, the local paper has never reported that at least 12 local residents saw several unexplained aircraft at the time of the crash.

Asked why the paper has not mentioned these eyewitness reports, managing editor Brian P. Whipkey told AFP â??They could not be substantiated.â?�

THE SCREAMING THING

At the horseshoe-shaped Indian Lake, about a mile east of the official crash site, several eyewitnesses recalled hearing â??a screaming thingâ?� that â??screechedâ?� as it passed over the golf course and lakeside community immediately before a huge explosion shook the ground. A missile would cause TWO explosions. At least, one hitting the plane, and one with the plane hitting the ground.

Chris Smith, the groundskeeper at the golf course, said something with a â??very loud screeching soundâ?� passed over in the immediate vicinity of the golf course before he heard a huge explosion.

â??It was like nothing Iâ??ve ever heard before,â?� Smith said.

The explosion that followed sounded like a â??sonic boom,â?� he said. Smith and others said they felt the shock wave from the explosion.

Smith said he was used to seeing a variety of military aircraft from the nearby Air National Guard bases in Johnstown and Cumberland, Md.

Another groundskeeper said he saw a silver plane pass overhead toward the crash site from the southeast after hearing the loud â??screechingâ?� sound. The large silver plane was at an elevation of several thousand feet, he said. So it went from several thousand feet to 50 feet for... what purpose exactly? Pilots hate being near the ground, they lose their tactical advantage. So why would he go down and circle the crashsite? Its a jet, not an eagle.

A local veteran who flew combat helicopters in the Vietnam War told AFP that the high-pitched screeching sound was indicative of a missile.

Shown a photo of an A-10 Warthog, the groundskeeper identified it as the kind of plane that circled the crash site at a very low altitude three times before flying away. He recognized the two vertical fins on the rear of the plane. â??Nobody was interested in what we saw,â?� he said. â??They didnâ??t even ask us.â?�

Mobile telephones and satellite televisions in the Indian Lake area did not work at the time of the crash, he said. Paul Muro was in his yard in Lambertsville when Flight 93 passed overhead. Muro, who lives a half-mile closer to the crash site than Saylor, said the plane was flying rightside up and normally, although it was very low. so... in half a mile.. it flipped upright already? assuming the jet was going 400 mph, that is .1 miles per second, meaning in 5 seconds the plane has flipped back upright? gimme a break.

Muro told AFP that he also saw a large silver plane approaching from the south, the opposite direction of Flight 93, above the crash site at the time of the explosion.

The silver plane then turned and headed back in the direction from which it had come, he said.

Tom Spinelli works at the Indian Lake Marina. After 9- 11, he told a Pittsburgh television news reporter about the unexplained aircraft he saw. â??I saw the white plane,â?� he said.

â??It was flying around all over the place like it was looking for something,â?� he said. â??I saw it before and after the crash.â?�

AFP visited the marina and asked Spinelli about the planes he saw on 9-11.
â??Iâ??m sorry,â?� Spinelli said. â??No commentâ?? is all I can say.â?�

An Indian Lake resident told AFP that federal agents had visited the marina after Spinelli had spoken to the Pittsburgh news channel, TV 4, and told him to stop talking about what he saw.

Local firefighters were also told not to talk about what they had seen at the crash site.

(Issue #30, July 25, 2005)

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this one was just off the wall. To many holes, especialy for you pisshead lol.

[Hydrizzle]

I am going to have to back on my vow to NOT post in this shitty section....

Pisshead, i know you will call this an "ad hominem attack" (lol)

You are so freaking delusional and paranoid. Once again, WHEN ARE THE ALIENS COMING????

Seriosly, its a big governemt cover up guys,.... Bush is an alien invader come to take our liberties away.... and o yeah, him and Karl Rove CAUSED 911 SINGLE HANDEDLY

Yep, thats right. Bush and Rove bought down all those planes by themselves! how you ask?

TELEKINESIS!

the governent has perfected it ages ago! But only to further take our freedoms away thats right!



ROFL pisshead, your always good for a laugh. (a worried laugh)

[bhallg2k]

I'm not usually one to buy into conspiracy theories. Just trying to grasp the things we are plainly told by the government and media is hard enough alone without letting my imagination run wild. However I sincerely believe that Flight 93 was shot down over Pennsylvania.

I don't need anyone to tell me why they think it was shot down. I came to that conclusion myself when they, the government mind you, told me that a 155' long, intact Boeing 757-222 crashed into the ground at 500 MPH and left a crater only 15' to 20' long and 8' to 10' deep (http://multimedia.belointeractive.com/attack/news/planecrash0911.html) leaving none of the large pieces of debris usually associated with similar plane crashes. That's all the information I needed to know that there's no way in hell that plane hit the ground in one piece.

I mean, honestly, what else do you need to know?

[yocass]

please, Id like to see your credentials in determining what is normal for a jet of that size weight speed, and the ground density, humidity level etc making a hole that size in the ground? Or at least some pretty close crashes and the aftermath...

[bhallg2k]

You mean to tell me that you think a 155' by 124' object, weighing in at 255,000 lbs (175 tons) slamming into the ground at 500 MPH would leave a hole only as big and as deep as the average back yard swimming pool? If you think Flight 93 crashed with no outside help, that's what you must conclude.

Don't obfuscate matter with ground density or humidity or whatever. Any intact aircraft that big, that heavy, moving that fast would gouge a massive crater even in the hardest concrete.

It's common sense.

[pisshead]

stop thinking bhallg2k...just stop it. believe what the nice men in expensive suits tell you to think about 9/11. planes typically vaporize and leave no traces they crashed.

there is no bigger conspiracy theory than the feds' official 9/11 story. even if what i say is wrong, it's so obvious they're lying and covering up.

[nicholasstanko]

I am going to have to back on my vow to NOT post in this shitty section....

Pisshead, i know you will call this an "ad hominem attack" (lol)

You are so freaking delusional and paranoid. Once again, WHEN ARE THE ALIENS COMING????

Seriosly, its a big governemt cover up guys,.... Bush is an alien invader come to take our liberties away.... and o yeah, him and Karl Rove CAUSED 911 SINGLE HANDEDLY

Yep, thats right. Bush and Rove bought down all those planes by themselves! how you ask?

TELEKINESIS!

the governent has perfected it ages ago! But only to further take our freedoms away thats right!



ROFL pisshead, your always good for a laugh. (a worried laugh)


why the fuck did you post back here then? did you even read the article? why the fuck cant you and the other couple of losers tripping on too much dxm just keep your fucking asses up top at the "fun" section of the boards.


if you cant post without at least being a semi-smarmy wise-assed bastard then fuck off.

[pisshead]

that's why i ignore it...calling me names doesn't make what the witnesses of the flight 93 crash saw incorrect...

i don't know how what these witnesses saw has any bearing on me...i trust the american free press and greg szymanski's reporting more than that prick.

fuck him.

[Hydrizzle]

why the fuck did you post back here then? did you even read the article? why the fuck cant you and the other couple of losers tripping on too much dxm just keep your fucking asses up top at the "fun" section of the boards.


if you cant post without at least being a semi-smarmy wise-assed bastard then fuck off.


actually right now you seem like "wise assed bastard"

cant you see that NOONE fucking cares about your crazy theroies.... cuz thats what they are THEROIES.... CRAP ones in fact.

yes, i read the fucking article, you brainwashed twat, and, yocass has many many good points..... i suggest you read his post. Explain the things he highlighted in detail. retard, you only can have stuff told to you by some crap publication still talking about 911.

BTW, I have never tripped on DXM. can't you see that YOU guys are the fucking LOSERS with a capitol fucking L, for posting non stop in a fucking CRAP politics forum where there are like 3 to 5 people ALL SAYING THE SAME DAMN THING! I stopped posting here after i realized pisshead, the one wiht 95% of the posts here, is so delusional and full of himself, he has completely lost touch with reality. Look at your avatar for Christsake, pisshead!

let me ask you this, nichalos, did YOU read the article? Cause if you did, you shall be graded as a grade-A RETARD for believing that garbage. LOL just browse around the site for like 1 munuit and you will see that it is a crap liberal propoganda website.

Get a life, and (lol) ad hominem attacks get you nowhere.

[Hydrizzle]

oh yeah, and nicholas, RIGHT HERE buddy!

right here!

[nicholasstanko]

please, Id like to see your credentials in determining what is normal for a jet of that size weight speed, and the ground density, humidity level etc making a hole that size in the ground? Or at least some pretty close crashes and the aftermath...

youre a real idiot.

youre a real fucking idiot.

i say that because only an idiot would ignore the evidence presented by HUNDREDS of experts in the field. then you wait for the government story. THATS THE POINT YOU FUCKING RETARD. everyone has been posting saying they dont believe the official government story, so what do you do?!! accept the government analysis of what happened?!?!?!? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: are you serious?!!! JESUS CHRIST i get SOOOOO frustrated sometimes.

why cant you just sit and READ the facts for once? can you read? does a bush advisor come to your home and read it FOR you?!?!!?


FUCK!



all hail yocass the greatest idiot the politics forum has ever known

[nicholasstanko]

oh yeah, and nicholas, RIGHT HERE buddy!

right here!

thanks for the pic! that pose reminds me of when i fucked your mother's cunt with my fist.


is that how you penetrate your father's asshole?



jesus christ what a loser. and btw i'll retort to yocass' "super cool intelligent" post since you're so eager.

[Hydrizzle]

so..... if yocass is such an idiot, you ought to be able to debase pretty easily the points he made in that post....

so go ahead since your so fucking smart.

[Hydrizzle]

thanks for the pic! that pose reminds me of when i fucked your mother's cunt with my fist.


ROFL, she would fucking CRUSH a little fuckin kid liek you. lol, i wouldnt reccomend it. Stick to little kids.



is that how you penetrate your father's asshole?

No, thats where your mom sits every night. Right on my fuck finger.

[bhallg2k]

Imagine that. This thread turned into a pissing contest. Shocker.

[nicholasstanko]

yocass put:


how the heck did it get upside down?

it didnt have to be completely upside-down. if you shoot a plane with a missle and it starts to crash-land what makes you think it HAS to crash in an upright position. it could easily have tilted either from sheer force or the captain desperately trying to salvage the plane. oh wait, it mustve been the new secret missle system that taps into the computers on the plane and forces the plane to turn upside down.

aren't jets ALWAYS fast, regardless of their intent?
wow...well if that's the case then i wonder what a metaphor is.
just because the woman said the jet looked like it was going very fast like it was trying to get out of there DOESNT mean a jet wasnt there. you're just being speculative as if since jets fly really fast anyway...it CANT be true.


you can not show someone a picture then when they say yeah thats it take it as credible evidence. Thats why line ups have more than one person in them, people get confused easily. And the A-10 is an anti-tank weapon primarily. And almost exclusively air to surface. This is why they fly with fighter jets to protect them.
When are you going to start disproving the story? hold on...wait...was that it? Okay, so she was shown of a pic of a jet that may not be the actual plane just one that's STRIKINGLY SIMILAR. so because of a tiny inconsistency that doesnt effect the overall claims, her entire testimony is null and void? you should stand trial for a major crime one day and all your defensive witnesses should be put on the stand. if that's the case, then might i suggest anally raping yourself before you get put in prison.

warthogs are notoriously LOUD
i didnt know you were a military expert. thanks for knowing exactly what the plane was. give me a break. "moran".


A missile would cause TWO explosions. At least, one hitting the plane, and one with the plane hitting the ground.

NO. NO. NO. annnnnnnnd NO. that's not definite. if a missle hits the planes jet fuel tanks then it would be one BIIIIIIG boom. yaaaaayyyyy...we did it!!! we learned about big and small today! yaaaayyyyy. the following result would be a big CRASH... can you spell CRASH.


So it went from several thousand feet to 50 feet for... what purpose exactly? Pilots hate being near the ground, they lose their tactical advantage. So why would he go down and circle the crashsite? Its a jet, not an eagle.

Hey, mind if i throw some logic into the mix?

If you had a plan to shatter the world of every american citizen and it was on large-scale...you WOULDNT make sure everything worked out accordingly? you wouldnt ensure that the evidence of the plane crash was destroyed? you'd just pack up and assume the good guys are dead like some cheesy james bond movie? you need a reality check.


so... in half a mile.. it flipped upright already? assuming the jet was going 400 mph, that is .1 miles per second, meaning in 5 seconds the plane has flipped back upright? gimme a break.

how does this disprove the woman's testimony? all you have is a statement from another faceless witness. it's just that in this case his works more in line with the government story. you're trained man. a real tool. noone has any use for you.



so that's it? that's your magical infallible word on the issue? it's obvious you didnt give any other viewpoints consideration at all. you picked the most plastic and shallow answers to feed your feeble mind. fuck you and fuck that other asshole whose name i didnt bother to remember because he pissed me off so much.



you guys are pathetic.

[nicholasstanko]

ROFL, she would fucking CRUSH a little fuckin kid liek you. lol, i wouldnt reccomend it. Stick to little kids.
so you're mom's a big fat slut that's so massive she could crush a 6'2 180 pound man? jesus christ, call the AMA. we've got a case of fat cow disease. dont worry, the mental symptoms only pass on to the kids when theyre born.



No, thats where your mom sits every night. Right on my fuck finger.[/QUOTE]

how come you gotta fuck girls with your finger? yocass too busy sucking on it for ya?


fucking retards. noone bothers you guys and calls the shit you post on crap. and you probably think youre so cool to. nobody here likes you, noone would even notice if you died and didnt post here anymore. so how about you dig the cum outta your ear and get a fucking life.


"morans". :)

[Hydrizzle]

wow, just as i expected, no facts or logic, and pure, 100% speculation.

secret missle system that forces the plane upside down? You smoking way too much crack, son.

....your second point is too stupid to even comment on.....

"so because of a tiny inconsistency that doesnt effect the overall claims, her entire testimony is null and void? you should stand trial for a major crime one day and all your defensive witnesses should be put on the stand. if that's the case, then might i suggest anally raping yourself before you get put in prison."

doesnt affect the overall claims? wait a sec, wanst the claim THAT A WARTHOG SHOT DOWN THE PLANE?!?? dipshit, of course that makes her testimoney null and void! That, and the fact that the witnesses convieniently asked "to be kept anonymous" making it impossible to verify her story or even grille her about it. WTF are u talking about annaly raping oneself? You have smoked yourself retarded!

*revokes nicholas's right to smoke weed*


actually, dumass, Warthogs ARE loud, being a multi-engine low-flying tank of a plane. dumass, dont spew your shit unless you actually know what your talking about.

maybe there would not be 2 explosions per se.... but the sounds of the crash would be really fucking loud... so that also completely debases this lady's claim. also, notice the quote: "At the horseshoe-shaped Indian Lake, about a mile east of the official crash site, several eyewitnesses recalled hearing â??a screaming thingâ?� that â??screechedâ?� as it passed over the golf course and lakeside community immediately before a huge explosion shook the ground." hmmmm right here it says the explosion happened on the ground.... nothing about an explosion in the air.

If you had a plan to shatter the world of every american citizen and it was on large-scale...you WOULDNT make sure everything worked out accordingly? you wouldnt ensure that the evidence of the plane crash was destroyed? you'd just pack up and assume the good guys are dead like some cheesy james bond movie? you need a reality check.

dude, what the fuck are you talking about....? do you really think a warthog plane would be able to " make sure everything worked out accordingly"???? what does it have X-ray beams, where it can see survivors in wreckage and laser them to death or something? get out of your sci-fi little world. I think its u who need the reality check. really, where is the logic there?


how does this disprove the woman's testimony? all you have is a statement from another faceless witness. it's just that in this case his works more in line with the government story. you're trained man. a real tool. noone has any use for you.

actually, all the witnesses mentioned in this story are "anonymous" that means, NO VERIFICATION OF THIER STORY DIPSHIT!

Do you believe every nut that sez he saw an UFO? ok then, why the hell would u believe every nut (like pisshead) that sez there is a conspiracy bla bla blah, a plane shot down flight 93 blah blah blah.... i belive ur the tool here, sir. A tool of this liberal anti-american propogandist pisshead.


so that's it? that's your magical infallible word on the issue? it's obvious you didnt give any other viewpoints consideration at all. you picked the most plastic and shallow answers to feed your feeble mind. fuck you and fuck that other asshole whose name i didnt bother to remember because he pissed me off so much.


My name is Hydrizzle, ya know, your biological father?

Tell me, why would rational people give any consideration to these completely unbased claimes, of which there is NO real proof exept some ANONYMOUS witnesses who might not even exist!

[nicholasstanko]

okay. do this.


ignore the posts pisshead put up. ignore the dozens of other links and articles pisshead that would take you to your credible info sources. just sit there like a dumbass and ignore everything i said.

my post reeked of sarcasm. you only read the wisecracks. i can tell because you blame me for speculation. all i did was merely anti-speculate. it was yocass that didnt use facts and it was yocass who speculated first.

and i noticed you called me a dispshit, stating that all of the testimony was anonymous. well then, why was that landscaper's account used to discredit my claims? do you even know what planet you're on?

like i said, too much dxm. maybe too much peyote. but what the fuck do you care? it all gets you high and that's what's important right?


i'm not going to keep this up with you or yocass. i've never used the ignore button and i never will. but im not going to keep arguing back and forth presenting (pisshead's researched) facts and pitting it against YOUR speculation that you rely so much on. even amsterdam isnt as annoying as you guys.

now off with you, you ridiculous child. grease up your mom's thigh so she can walk about. and you call yourself a good son?


asshole.

[pisshead]

my favorite conspiracy theory is the 19 freedom hating muslims, nearly half of whom are still alive.

[yocass]

yocass put:


how the heck did it get upside down?

it didnt have to be completely upside-down. if you shoot a plane with a missle and it starts to crash-land what makes you think it HAS to crash in an upright position. it could easily have tilted either from sheer force or the captain desperately trying to salvage the plane. oh wait, it mustve been the new secret missle system that taps into the computers on the plane and forces the plane to turn upside down.

aren't jets ALWAYS fast, regardless of their intent?
wow...well if that's the case then i wonder what a metaphor is.
just because the woman said the jet looked like it was going very fast like it was trying to get out of there DOESNT mean a jet wasnt there. you're just being speculative as if since jets fly really fast anyway...it CANT be true. Did I say that? Thats pretty retarded to say. My point is witness = dumb ass. You are relying on a dumb ass. Which makes her entire testimony... dumb. I didn't say that meant anything happened or didn't.


you can not show someone a picture then when they say yeah thats it take it as credible evidence. Thats why line ups have more than one person in them, people get confused easily. And the A-10 is an anti-tank weapon primarily. And almost exclusively air to surface. This is why they fly with fighter jets to protect them.
When are you going to start disproving the story? hold on...wait...was that it? Okay, so she was shown of a pic of a jet that may not be the actual plane just one that's STRIKINGLY SIMILAR. so because of a tiny inconsistency that doesnt effect the overall claims, her entire testimony is null and void? you should stand trial for a major crime one day and all your defensive witnesses should be put on the stand. if that's the case, then might i suggest anally raping yourself before you get put in prison. Shit man, you cant be that stupid. You just cant be. Again, proving the witness is a dumb ass... all that was. Your taking military advice from a dumb ass. Tell me. Why would the air force send a huge bulky fast loud jet made for taking out tanks. To destroy a jetliner?

warthogs are notoriously LOUD
i didnt know you were a military expert. thanks for knowing exactly what the plane was. give me a break. "moran". Yes. I am. My minor in military science makes me more so than you anyways. And yes I am somewhat familiar with the jet, it has been used very frequently in both Iraqi missions. Your welcome for me already being familiar with the jet, having studied them a little bit a while back. Do I get a cookie now?


A missile would cause TWO explosions. At least, one hitting the plane, and one with the plane hitting the ground.

NO. NO. NO. annnnnnnnd NO. that's not definite. if a missle hits the planes jet fuel tanks then it would be one BIIIIIIG boom. yaaaaayyyyy...we did it!!! we learned about big and small today! yaaaayyyyy. the following result would be a big CRASH... can you spell CRASH. YES YES YES. oh, and of course yes. Why is the plane flying so low that you cant distinguish from 2 giant, distinctive, and utterly different explosions. The only air to air the warthog is ever fitted with is the sidewinder (and very, very, very, very rarely at that) It uses shrapnel rather then blowing up the fuel tank. Your point is bunked


So it went from several thousand feet to 50 feet for... what purpose exactly? Pilots hate being near the ground, they lose their tactical advantage. So why would he go down and circle the crashsite? Its a jet, not an eagle.

Hey, mind if i throw some logic into the mix? that will be a first

If you had a plan to shatter the world of every american citizen and it was on large-scale...you WOULDNT make sure everything worked out accordingly? you wouldnt ensure that the evidence of the plane crash was destroyed? you'd just pack up and assume the good guys are dead like some cheesy james bond movie? you need a reality check. no, I would use the same technology the jets use in the attacks overseas. A)powerful imaging devices on the plane, or B) a big ass satellite. But no, I for damn sure wouldn't be a dumb ass and do what you are suggesting.


so... in half a mile.. it flipped upright already? assuming the jet was going 400 mph, that is .1 miles per second, meaning in 5 seconds the plane has flipped back upright? gimme a break.

how does this disprove the woman's testimony? all you have is a statement from another faceless witness. it's just that in this case his works more in line with the government story. you're trained man. a real tool. noone has any use for you. I cant make out your point really here. But I am gonna guess. you have 2 witnesses. One saw an upside down jet. One merely half a mile away didn't. They have 2 different sights they saw, and no one to back up anything they say. That DOES discredit both testimonys, but not necessarily disprove them.



so that's it? that's your magical infallible word on the issue? it's obvious you didnt give any other viewpoints consideration at all. you picked the most plastic and shallow answers to feed your feeble mind. fuck you and fuck that other asshole whose name i didnt bother to remember because he pissed me off so much.no.... I, unlike you, used my brain to come up with shit instead of a conspiracy theory website. Please. Use some facts. There actually are a few that suggest YOUR side of the story if you do some research.



you guys are pathetic.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Hydrizzle]

1st off, thank you for the compliment, I have always strived to be as annoying as amsterdam to mindless liberals like you... :D :D

apparently you dont know what a "credible" scource is.... not this site for sure....


http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/flight_93.html

here's a few random headlines from the main page.... now tell me that this scource is fair and balanced....



FLIGHT 93 SHOT DOWN

Eyewitness Reports at Odds With Official Scenario


LEAKED MEMO PROVES BUSH LIED ON IRAQ

Memo clearly shows President Bush â??doctoredâ?� intelligence

and it goes on and on and on......

[yocass]

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/about_us.html

heh, all I need to look at. And you say IIII use a lot of assumptions and bullshit. That site just regurgitates male cow pie.

[nicholasstanko]

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/about_us.html

heh, all I need to look at. And you say IIII use a lot of assumptions and bullshit. That site just regurgitates male cow pie.

i bet yocass looks exactly like his avatar and thats why he's so angry

[yocass]

...considering my picture is on this site, that was pretty stupid. I really have to stop expecting intelligent responses from you. Leave that to pisshead, at least he makes an intelligible point, whether or not I think hes right. You just say random nonsense.

[Hydrizzle]

yeah, that site is a gigantic, steaming pice of elephant feces. stinks to high heaven, oh my!!!! :eek:

[Beeblebrox.420]

i bet yocass looks exactly like his avatar and thats why he's so angry Why must you resort to personal attacks whenever someone questions or disparages your sources? If that's the only way you know to defend your statements, then perhaps we can do without you here. We've had this discussion already, and you've been suspended for this very behavior. You clearly have not learned anything. Consider yourself on thin ice. Knock off the gratuitous personal attacks. Yocass said nothing personal about you until you attacked him, and there was no need for you to.

If you think I'm picking on you needlessly, then let me tell you I have received a complaint about you from another member about this same behavior. And no, it wasn't yocass.

[pisshead]

what about the personal attacks leveled against me? i personally don't give a shit...but what about them?

i get them constantly and most of the time i let them slide by...

[Beeblebrox.420]

Depends. Obviously I can't be everywhere at once, so if you can help me out with some examples, I'll address them if need be. Of course, if you started it, you'll get no sympathy from me. Besides, I'm not so much interested in the person who may let his emotions get the better of him once in a while, but rather a pattern of repeated behavior, like our friend nic has demonstrated.

[pisshead]

read any of my posts that i started...then read the followups by certain people. hydrizzle, yocass, amsterdam...there may be another one or two or three or four...i usually just skip past them or ignore them.

like i said, i personally don't care if they're here or not...but 95% of the time i'll get some lame comments and drawn out insult.

then read my responses and see how civil i am most of the time.

[yocass]

when do I ever attack YOU? In fact, I usually compliment you for at least trying to back your points. Just because I think your wrong a lot of the time, doesnt mean Im going to attack you. You never provoked me, so as far as Im concerned your cool by me. And if I ever did.. sorry.

[nicholasstanko]

Why must you resort to personal attacks whenever someone questions or disparages your sources? If that's the only way you know to defend your statements, then perhaps we can do without you here. We've had this discussion already, and you've been suspended for this very behavior. You clearly have not learned anything. Consider yourself on thin ice. Knock off the gratuitous personal attacks. Yocass said nothing personal about you until you attacked him, and there was no need for you to.

If you think I'm picking on you needlessly, then let me tell you I have received a complaint about you from another member about this same behavior. And no, it wasn't yocass.

I'm really trying to supress my anger. i really am. did you read how the posts started?

that's all i can say. if i continue, im going to get really angry. why do you keep standing up for the people that NEVER contribute NEVER respect anyones ideas and NEVER even bother to even read before posting arguements? what is WITH you?!?! why do you keep trying to pick on me?


all hail bad moderators

[Beeblebrox.420]

Waaaaa. I'm being picked on. Yeah, yeah, you're breaking my heart. As a matter of fact, I did read how this got started, and while yocass might have been a bit sarcastic, it was YOU who started with the personal attacks. And it's not just this thread, it's almost any thread in which someone disagrees with you.

[yocass]

youre a real idiot.

youre a real fucking idiot.

i say that because only an idiot would ignore the evidence presented by HUNDREDS of experts in the field. then you wait for the government story. THATS THE POINT YOU FUCKING RETARD. everyone has been posting saying they dont believe the official government story, so what do you do?!! accept the government analysis of what happened?!?!?!? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: are you serious?!!! JESUS CHRIST i get SOOOOO frustrated sometimes.

why cant you just sit and READ the facts for once? can you read? does a bush advisor come to your home and read it FOR you?!?!!?


FUCK!



all hail yocass the greatest idiot the politics forum has ever known

this is the first correspondence between you and me in this entire thread. Whats up with all hail and you, you cananazi. PS: I actually DID just read this post all the way through, seeing as how the stupidity and lack of logic fried my brain the first tiem around. derr the government said so! derrr its wrong!! all hail nicholas, the nazi*.


(expert)

[nicholasstanko]

you know what? forget it. dont even bother to reply beeblebrox.

it's all my fault after all. you're the best moderator ever. keep up the great job of ignoring everyone else's pre-emptive disrespectful posts and concentrate soley on the ones written in my defense.

why did they wait so long to make you a mod?


let's roll.

[nicholasstanko]

Waaaaa. I'm being picked on. Yeah, yeah, you're breaking my heart. As a matter of fact, I did read how this got started, and while yocass might have been a bit sarcastic, it was YOU who started with the personal attacks. And it's not just this thread, it's almost any thread in which someone disagrees with you.

yeh real professional post there. You strike me as a lazy mod. who searches for the juicy sounding threads just looking for action. If you had even bothered to read any other posts youd've noticed i had been attacked previously in another post and when yocass came to do the same thing in a new thread i was fed up.


And by all means, show everyone this supposed post with me attacking someone for no reason. i know i'm ready to see it

and btw, if your going to post a link to the thread how about you use one that i posted AFTER i got back from my suspension...not before ;)


i'm ready to read as soon as you're ready to post.

let's roll.

[Beeblebrox.420]

See yocass' reply above and reconsider your position. YOU started the personal attacks in this thread. Why you refuse to admit that in the face of overwhelming evidence is beyond me. *shakes head* Did you think no one would call you on your BS?

[nicholasstanko]

this is the first correspondence between you and me in this entire thread. Whats up with all hail and you, you cananazi. PS: I actually DID just read this post all the way through, seeing as how the stupidity and lack of logic fried my brain the first tiem around. derr the government said so! derrr its wrong!! all hail nicholas, the nazi*.


(expert)


well then fine. fuck you. if you dont like my posts and you dont want me to respond then ignore me. dont you have an ignore button?

you dont hang around these boards. you're a joke. a tired and stale joke. the "all hail" line is a joke from a previous thread when we happened to be talking about....nazis :eek:

and i see you failed to quote anything you said outside of your thread yesterday when you really pissed me off and got me irate in the first place with your nonsense.

run along now, walgreen's has a sale on cough syrup. all the delicious dxm you can handle.



let's roll.

[yocass]

well then fine. fuck you. if you dont like my posts and you dont want me to respond then ignore me. dont you have an ignore button?

you dont hang around these boards. you're a joke. a tired and stale joke. the "all hail" line is a joke from a previous thread when we happened to be talking about....nazis :eek:

and i see you failed to quote anything you said outside of your thread yesterday when you really pissed me off and got me irate in the first place with your nonsense.

run along now, walgreen's has a sale on cough syrup. all the delicious dxm you can handle.



let's roll.
yes, yes its ok little stanko. You dont piss me off. Your an idiot, you dont know better. You really believe the shit that comes out of your mouth. I got your joke, it just wasnt funny... Why would I want to quote me calling your bullshit in another thread?
:confused:

[nicholasstanko]

See yocass' reply above and reconsider your position. YOU started the personal attacks in this thread. Why you refuse to admit that in the face of overwhelming evidence is beyond me. *shakes head* Did you think no one would call you on your BS?

do yourself a favour and read the other threads posted yesterday not just this one.


but dont bother. we all know you're always right and i'm always wrong.


does the ignore button work on mods?


all hail the ignore button.

[nicholasstanko]

yes, yes its ok little stanko. You dont piss me off. Your an idiot, you dont know better. You really believe the shit that comes out of your mouth. I got your joke, it just wasnt funny... Why would I want to quote me calling your bullshit in another thread?
:confused:

yes yocass im an idiot. i dont know better. im admitting it after all this time. thanks for springing me from my denial. :rolleyes:

i'm tired of responding to your nonsense and having mods after me, so if you wanna debate then that's fine. just debate. dont attack. and dont criticise until you read everything. if you cant meet those three requirements, then whatever. you never post anything sensible anyway.


let's roll.

[Beeblebrox.420]

Now you're just whining. If you have specific posts you want me to read, I will if you post the links. I can not and will not read every single thread and post on this board - it's just not possible. I can only deal with what I see, and what I see in this thread is you personally attacking people who disagree with you.

You ever heard of being the bigger person? From what I've seen, apparently not. And just because someone makes you angry does NOT mean they are attacking you. It means you need to grow a skin and stop being one of the Offenderati - those who take offense at any little sleight, real or perceived.

[yocass]

if you wanna debate then that's fine. just debate. dont attack. and dont criticise until you read everything. if you cant meet those three requirements, then whatever. you never post anything sensible anyway.


Thank god your thinking of correcting your ways, bout time. Look forward to you saying facts!

[nicholasstanko]

Now you're just whining. If you have specific posts you want me to read, I will if you post the links. I can not and will not read every single thread and post on this board - it's just not possible. I can only deal with what I see, and what I see in this thread is you personally attacking people who disagree with you.

You ever heard of being the bigger person? From what I've seen, apparently not. And just because someone makes you angry does NOT mean they are attacking you. It means you need to grow a skin and stop being one of the Offenderati - those who take offense at any little sleight, real or perceived.


dude....seriously. just leave me alone. i'm not going to respond to yocass' popsts anymore so you can stop defending him.


just go away. you have all the power and you got what you wanted.

[Beeblebrox.420]

You can dish it out, but can't take it, eh? Well, fine, I'll leave you alone. You don't have to ignore yocass, but you really oughta just calm down and stop letting people wind you up to the point where you start flinging feces around like a psychotic monkey. I mean, really, what are you getting so worked up about? Not everyone is just going to automatically agree with you. If you can't handle a little disagreement, then you'd probably be happier elsewhere. Seems to me you're just looking to find things to get upset about.

[nicholasstanko]

You can dish it out, but can't take it, eh? Well, fine, I'll leave you alone. You don't have to ignore yocass, but you really oughta just calm down and stop letting people wind you up to the point where you start flinging feces around like a psychotic monkey. I mean, really, what are you getting so worked up about? Not everyone is just going to automatically agree with you. If you can't handle a little disagreement, then you'd probably be happier elsewhere. Seems to me you're just looking to find things to get upset about.

yes beeblebrox. im looking for conflict, which is exactly why i said i wouldnt respond to neither you nor yocass' posts anymore.

yes beeblebrox. thank you for teaching me not everyone will agree with me, now i know for sure because im always out wantonly attacking people that have different views.

feel free to post anything relevant to the thread topic at any time.

you can reply with whatever you want, i wont reply back because i know how you savor getting that one last word in to secure your authority.



all hail beeblebrox