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Zero Revolt
07-17-2005, 02:16 AM
I was going to post this in the sexuality forums but then it came to my attention that nudity has nothing to do with sex.
Do you all belive that nudity is socially acceptable or complely taboo?
How often do you take the chance to be nude?
And if you do spend time nude do you care if other people see you even if it's in your own home?
Here's my awnsers but don't let them reflect on what you have to say.
I think nudity is completley acceptable. I like to be nude whenever possible as it is more comfortable than your baggiest pair of clothes could ever be.
And I don't really care if other people see me nude (except children) because they got the same equipment I do. In closing I think that if your uncomfortble with seeing people nude than your uncomfortable with yourself.
wutang123456
07-17-2005, 02:37 AM
i never understood why the sensored an exposed womans breasts...
ermitonto
07-17-2005, 02:50 AM
Nudity is natural. I really don't see what's wrong with it and why people make such a big fuss over people being able to view certain body parts in public. It's probably a cultural thing we inherited from the Europeans. Peoples native to warmer climates frequently lived without clothes and their societies were not affected by any sort of mass degradation of morality as some would have you believe is the natural result of seeing such body parts.
You're right, nudity really has nothing to do with sex, but it is equated with sex in our culture because sex is one of the few times people ever see anyone else naked. In societies that developed without clothes, for instance, the female breast is not typically viewed as sexual. But here everybody gets in an uproar when a female nipple is visible at the Superbowl, as if it had some sort of potential to cause any harm to anyone more than a man's nipple could (which seems like a pretty sexist idea to me).
It's usually religious Christian moralists who rigorously oppose nudity in public, in the media, and yes, even in art. These are people who are motivated by the idea that anything remotely related to sex (even nudity, which is only associated with sex because we hardly ever see nude people outside of sexual situations anymore) as sinful and wicked and against God's will and so forth, and they wish to impose their religious viewpoint on the rest of society.
To answer your questions:
No, nudity is not socially acceptable, but in an ideal society it would be.
I hang around my room naked sometimes, but other than that I rarely get to be nude due to social stigmas and the highly successful campaign of the aforementioned Christian moralists which makes it a crime (!) for me to show parts of myself their religion doesn't like. Which change over time, by the way. A hundred years ago it was taboo to show a thigh in public.
I don't really care if people see me naked. Again, this hardly ever happens, but it doesn't trouble me when it does.
Ousted
07-17-2005, 03:36 AM
I personally am not a fan of public nudity. Not because I dont think people should love their bodies, but because...most people dont have nice bodies, myself included. If I just see someone with visible flab poking out of their jeans that are way too small, or shorts that are much too short showing cellulite I get really embarrassed for those people, cuz that to me says "I dont care how I look." Same if I saw someone who didnt bathe for a week.
However, if I see someone, male or female, with an incredible body and showing it off, I also get uncomfortable. Because it makes me feel bad about myself, or inferior to them in some way. I know its silly and unfair to those who have worked for a nice body who are probably paying no attention to me, but thats just how I feel - thats my personal issue though.
RaoulDuke45
07-17-2005, 05:38 AM
i always think about jerry seinfeld when a question comes up like this, he talks about people will feel more comforatable in clothes because you can always make those little adjustments to your clothes but when your nude your just there...... thats why he wairs a belt when hes nude so he can still make those small adjustments
st0n3r
07-17-2005, 07:31 AM
i am gay
Hektik
07-17-2005, 07:39 AM
I think nudity is completley acceptable. I like to be nude whenever possible as it is more comfortable than your baggiest pair of clothes could ever be.
And I don't really care if other people see me nude (except children) because they got the same equipment I do. In closing I think that if your uncomfortble with seeing people nude than your uncomfortable with yourself.
I agree 100%
Zero Revolt
07-17-2005, 07:53 AM
i am gay
And what does that have to do with anything?
3 Sheets To The Wind
07-17-2005, 01:56 PM
I don't enjoy being naked, i enjoy watching others though (female only thanks) :)
i think nudity should be socially acceptable.....there is nothing wrong with seeing someones skin.
I speand as much time nude as i can.....which isnt very much cause my parents tend to just walk into my room when they feel the need to.
I dont really care if people see me nude....im sure they would feel more awkward than
i would.
LimpBizkitRMV04
07-17-2005, 03:14 PM
it all relates back to religon ..... god damn shit it is.......fuck em
GHoSToKeR
07-17-2005, 04:36 PM
I personally am not a fan of public nudity. Not because I dont think people should love their bodies, but because...most people dont have nice bodies, myself included. If I just see someone with visible flab poking out of their jeans that are way too small, or shorts that are much too short showing cellulite I get really embarrassed for those people, cuz that to me says "I dont care how I look." Same if I saw someone who didnt bathe for a week.
Wow... that is insanely stupid.
robert42
07-17-2005, 05:24 PM
im naked most of my day as a unemployed marijuana smoker i spend most of my time (weekdays) at home naked.
mlleyeuxbleus
07-17-2005, 06:43 PM
1. I don't think it is socially acceptable in the society we have right now, but we have a rather puritanical society, so there you are.
2. Well, I sleep nude for sure, & I would spend a lot more time in the buff except that I get cold very easily. So I spend a lot of time at home in soft, loose clothes (sans bra & underwear of course)... the closest I can get without being chilly.
3. I wouldn't care if other people saw me, but I live in a nice apartment complex, & some of my snootier neighbors might get bent out of shape & go tell on me or something. Also, even though I'm not a fan of the closed-mindedness of our society, I think everyone evolves at their own pace. I don't think it's necessarily good or kind to push others (esp. strangers) beyond their limits... that's not my place, as I don't know their history or circumstance.
Ousted, I see your point, but as you mentioned some of the people in scant clothing look bad because the clothes are ill-fitting... sometimes it's just the clothes making an otherwise decent body look less attractive. Another reason to favor nudity, lol. :) But I think our society puts too much emphasis on a golden 'ideal' body anyway, which has trained us to be so critical of our own selves & those around us.
I really believe that if we stopped emphasizing the need for perfect bodies so much, more people would have better bodies. We have created a cycle in which people feel ashamed about their bodies, then also feel resentful, then are acting & living from a place of negativity (discomfort with themselves, anger, loathing, etc.). Then in order to feel better, they turn to unhealthy 'food' which is all around us. It would be so nice (& rather utopian, I know) if somehow we could just forget about this whole 'fit culture' & just live contentedly & healthfully. I really believe that then obesity would drop dramatically, & we'd be a happier world.
And maybe if people spent more time in the nude or around nude people, more would begin to see the human body as an amazing entity & show a little more respect for it (both their own & others'). Hmm.
mlleyeuxbleus
07-17-2005, 06:44 PM
Geez, I just realized I wrote a damned novel! Sorry 'bout that.
Mojavpa
07-17-2005, 07:19 PM
Well if you look at some tribal cultures in different parts of the part, nudity is not a big thing at all. Parents are like, oh no, janet jackson showed her boob on TV, but then they let their kids watch the discovery channel showing naked men and women of some African tribe walking around. (Maybe nudity is ok if its not meant in a sexual/sedctive manner?) And lets not forget beeping out cuss words. I was watching formula 51 on USA and every cuss word was taken out, but they didnt edit out any of the violence and blood, because I assume parents think its worse for a kid to know fuck than to show him people being murdered. And the media wont show pictures of all the dead civilians in Iraq but they wont shy way from showing piles of corpses in Asia after the tsunami hit. America is sooooooo hypocritical.
mono repin
07-17-2005, 07:27 PM
Also, even though I'm not a fan of the closed-mindedness of our society, I think everyone evolves at their own pace. I don't think it's necessarily good or kind to push others (esp. strangers) beyond their limits... that's not my place, as I don't know their history or circumstance.
Wow! That is the perfect response to the initial post.
Along the same lines, with some many other issues out there... is nudity really the the battle you want to fight? I've heard the drop food not bombs bit... how about the medicinal marijuana rather than relaxed nudity rulings.
I don't have a problem with nudity, assuming the situation was a socially appropriate one ie nude beach then sure I'll be naked. All this is saying, is I'd rather be clothed than offensive.
I rarely go completely naked as it makes my skin crawl. I try to have as much stuff touching as much skin as possible.
On an interesting side note... I think its fun having such an uptight society though... Think about how much MORE eroticicism there is because of it. There is more sexual subject matter because of our society, and I think its a fun little quirk.
9ski9
07-17-2005, 07:39 PM
The internet screwed up the nude beach at Sandy Hook, NJ, that we used to hit back in school. Nowadays, whenever a fairly hot looking girl shows up, a dozen guys with video cams slime their way toward her blanket. Sucks to be at a nude beach trying to be "free" when a bunch of guys are trying to get video to post.
Same thing happened with a clothing optional last day of skiing/snowboarding at Crested Butte, CO...fucking guys blew the event by posting vids.
Did anyone see the Queer Eye show with the nudist guy? You'd think that nudists and nuturists would be the more inclined to treat their bodies like temples and not Twinkie vacuums.
DonnieDarko
07-17-2005, 07:51 PM
I was going to post this in the sexuality forums but then it came to my attention that nudity has nothing to do with sex.
To ME, nudity has everything to do with SEX. Therefore I don't approve of public nudity.
Suppose Mrs. Darko and I go to the beach and everyone is NAKED. I've got no alternative than to stare, drool, and gawk at every naked female body. At some point I am arroused, for all to see. I'm now in a load of trouble w wifey.
My vote is for everyone to keep covered up .... :D
Ousted
07-17-2005, 08:17 PM
Wow... that is insanely stupid.
And thank you for your well thought out contribution, ghosty. :D Next time you think something someone says is stupid its probably a good idea to then elaborate why you dont agree. Otherwise, Im left with one conclusion: You're a dipshit. Read my sig.
I really believe that if we stopped emphasizing the need for perfect bodies so much, more people would have better bodies. We have created a cycle in which people feel ashamed about their bodies, then also feel resentful, then are acting & living from a place of negativity (discomfort with themselves, anger, loathing, etc.). Then in order to feel better, they turn to unhealthy 'food' which is all around us. It would be so nice (& rather utopian, I know) if somehow we could just forget about this whole 'fit culture' & just live contentedly & healthfully. I really believe that then obesity would drop dramatically, & we'd be a happier world.
Thats it exactly. It really is a vicious cycle. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Juggalotus17
07-18-2005, 01:24 AM
I'd be pretty fucking pissed if I was in a line and the nude guy behind me popped a bonar.
ermitonto
07-18-2005, 02:20 AM
Yes, when people first see other nude people they often get aroused, because nudity is linked to sex within our culture. You hardly see naked people outside of porn and sexual encounters, so your mind gets aroused anytime you see nudity, like you would get aroused by eating chocolate if you ate chocolate every time you had an orgasm. But as anyone who's ever spent time at a nudist retreat can tell you, that goes away as you get used to seeing people as they are.
ImStonedNILikeIt
07-18-2005, 04:45 AM
I dance under the moon bare ass naked and full of dreams....
Don't really care..what others think. :D
Nah jk...
I don't care one way or the other..it would be a perfect world, but on the other hand it wouldn't. You have to look at both sides of all points here. I personally only walk around naked at my apartment.
Fengzi
07-18-2005, 04:03 PM
I have no problem with public nudity if it is in a place where it is accepted. There are tons of clothing optional beaches out here in California and everytime I go the only thing I wear is sunscreen. Lots and lots and lots of sunscreen :D You do see all types of bodies there, from terribly flabby to terribly hot. For most people, however, its just about being at the beach and enjoying the sun, nabout watching other people so it doesn't matter what anyone else looks like. And, like ermitonto said, once you get used to seeing others nide it stops being about sex and fears about walking around with a stiffy soon go away.
alr204
07-18-2005, 04:07 PM
can some hot bitties just post some nude pics already...GOSH!
BlueCat
07-18-2005, 04:31 PM
I'm with mlleyeuxbleus.....good post
1. I don't think it is socially acceptable in the society we have right now, but we have a rather puritanical society
You are so right!! :D
I see nothing wrong with being nude, at home or in your yard. It would depend on the circumstance. It is not practical to walk around town nude and I don't want to eat in a cafe with a nude person bringing my food. yuck. :p
I love to sit at computer in my PJ top and panties.. its great. I have been to nude beaches it is no big deal.
I think too much emphasis is put on nudity. Like when Asscroft had the breast of Venus covered because it offended him.
I have seen moms cover their kids eyes if breasts or an ass is shown on TV but these same mom's have no problem letting thier kids see a man literally shot to pieces in RoboCop. lol
Don't you find it stupid when they blur the ass crack on TV shows !!
Have you noticed that lately? It is so stupid! Last time I checked we all have an ass crack. :eek:
I don't think nudity means SEX...that's the view of overly hormonal teens and prudish old timers.... :)
GHoSToKeR
07-18-2005, 06:23 PM
And thank you for your well thought out contribution, ghosty. :D Next time you think something someone says is stupid its probably a good idea to then elaborate why you dont agree. Otherwise, Im left with one conclusion: You're a dipshit. Read my sig.
lol.. Dude, if you see some of the things i've been called on this forum in the past then you'll know why i'm gonna take that as a compliment! ;)
Anyway, I was stoned and was so annoyed by your post that I didn't feel it justified a decent response, which I admit, was stupid in itself.
Basically I was offended because I think nobody would be considered unnattractive if we all just realised how beautiful we all are.. I mean, if a person is overweight or 'ugly' then fair enough, you might not be attracted to that person sexually, but personally I couldn't give two shits. I love a good looking woman as much as the next guy, but I never (or at least try not to...) judge people by their appearance, and if I ever do then I imediately shrug it off and put it out of my mind, because I would know that my preconception is probably a misconception.
It would be awesome if everybody was naked all of the time - besides the erect nipples and shriveled wangs (funny how that works, huh?) in the winter - because the majority of people make their decision about others within the first few seconds of meeting them, and alot of that is based on what they are wearing and how they are wearing it (ie, scruffy, dirty, tidy, smart). If we got rid of this than people would have to get to know people as people.
If you were to meet an overweight person now (say at work or whatever) would you constantly be thinking about their weight? For how long; every time you met them or just the until you grew used to it? Think about if that person was naked... of course that would shock you now and, given your attitude toward overweight people, I imagine you would find it hard not to be 'offended' (though I find this hard to understand..) but if everybody was naked all the time would their nakedness not lose it's novelty? Would you not just grow accustomed to it? On the same point, if everybody was naked all of a sudden than alot of people would be either turned on or self conscious (or both) alot of the time, but eventually the novelty would wear off and people would get used to being in this natural state... I imagine alot of men would stop treating woman as pieces of meat and only wanting to get under their clothes, and people would learn to lighten up and not treat the human body as something to be ashamed of.
This, to me, would be perfect.
BlueCat
07-18-2005, 06:28 PM
This, to me, would be perfect.
ME TOO! So.... U want to start a commune?... :D
GHoSToKeR
07-18-2005, 06:29 PM
Hell yeah... I'll bring some chips and dip! :D
Edit: Might want to bring some napkins too.........
BlueCat
07-18-2005, 06:32 PM
Oh boy it's Nude Twister time.... :D
GHoSToKeR
07-18-2005, 06:57 PM
haha.. :D
Talk about 'thoughts on nudity'... I'm having some thoughts on nudity right now... **boi-oi-oi-oi-oi-oi-oi-oi-oi-oi-oing** :p lmao
BlueCat
07-18-2005, 07:08 PM
:D no more twister for you....
GHoSToKeR
07-18-2005, 07:55 PM
hey, what? I was just starting to enjoy it... Poor GHoST :(
:p
Ousted
07-19-2005, 02:33 AM
lol.. Dude, if you see some of the things i've been called on this forum in the past then you'll know why i'm gonna take that as a compliment! ;)
Anyway, I was stoned and was so annoyed by your post that I didn't feel it justified a decent response, which I admit, was stupid in itself.
Basically I was offended because I think nobody would be considered unnattractive if we all just realised how beautiful we all are.. I mean, if a person is overweight or 'ugly' then fair enough, you might not be attracted to that person sexually, but personally I couldn't give two shits. I love a good looking woman as much as the next guy, but I never (or at least try not to...) judge people by their appearance, and if I ever do then I imediately shrug it off and put it out of my mind, because I would know that my preconception is probably a misconception.
It would be awesome if everybody was naked all of the time - besides the erect nipples and shriveled wangs (funny how that works, huh?) in the winter - because the majority of people make their decision about others within the first few seconds of meeting them, and alot of that is based on what they are wearing and how they are wearing it (ie, scruffy, dirty, tidy, smart). If we got rid of this than people would have to get to know people as people.
If you were to meet an overweight person now (say at work or whatever) would you constantly be thinking about their weight? For how long; every time you met them or just the until you grew used to it? Think about if that person was naked... of course that would shock you now and, given your attitude toward overweight people, I imagine you would find it hard not to be 'offended' (though I find this hard to understand..) but if everybody was naked all the time would their nakedness not lose it's novelty? Would you not just grow accustomed to it? On the same point, if everybody was naked all of a sudden than alot of people would be either turned on or self conscious (or both) alot of the time, but eventually the novelty would wear off and people would get used to being in this natural state... I imagine alot of men would stop treating woman as pieces of meat and only wanting to get under their clothes, and people would learn to lighten up and not treat the human body as something to be ashamed of.
This, to me, would be perfect.
Fair enough. That really is an open-minded idealogy. But I find it pretty improbable in our culture. We are taught to be judgemental of others (by the media more than anything), especially of the body. People are conditioned to feel bad about bulges, body hair, cellulite, acne, varicose veins, sagging, drooping, wrinkles, swelling...anything short of perfection pretty much. So in a society such as ours (I assume you are American...correct me if Im wrong) where we are judged for possessing any and all of those flaws, out of bitterment and self-hatred it's hard to not also judge others for the very things we judge of ourselves.
Am I saying it's a good thing or acceptable to be so judgemental? Absolutely not. But we're talking about human being's here who are biased and judgemental instinctually. The original poster seemed to want honest answers, and I answered truthfully to the best of my ability as far as my personal feelings go. If my answers annoyed you, I really dont know what to say other than I was being honest. I'm sorry you didn't appreciate the honesty. I dont like that I have these judgements either, but I consider myself someone who is very loving, caring, and non-judgemental of others for the most part. I believe moreso than the average person. That's why I feel that if I am uneasy with the idea of public nudity, and am put off by people flopping around naked...then I really dont see nudity being acceptable anytime soon in our overly and openly critical society.
I thank you, though, for taking the time to post your thoughts in an nonaggressive and mature fashion. It gave me a better idea as to your point of view and where you were coming from. :)
NextGen
07-19-2005, 03:23 AM
I was going to post this in the sexuality forums but then it came to my attention that nudity has nothing to do with sex.
Do you all belive that nudity is socially acceptable or complely taboo?
How often do you take the chance to be nude?
And if you do spend time nude do you care if other people see you even if it's in your own home?
Here's my awnsers but don't let them reflect on what you have to say.
I think nudity is completley acceptable. I like to be nude whenever possible as it is more comfortable than your baggiest pair of clothes could ever be.
And I don't really care if other people see me nude (except children) because they got the same equipment I do. In closing I think that if your uncomfortble with seeing people nude than your uncomfortable with yourself.
Sup Zero,
I think those those who like being nude just dont give a fack. It's great :) they're obiously happy or just really horny. :p
NowhereMan
07-19-2005, 04:39 PM
I'd be pretty fucking pissed if I was in a line and the nude guy behind me popped a bonar.
scary thought
funny to think of someone else doing
but,anyone taps me on the butt with a pecker liable to lose it
dokowitz4carbowski
07-19-2005, 05:21 PM
Nude is good! in the right situations and if your hot.
dokowitz4carbowski
07-19-2005, 05:22 PM
hot as in good looking, not hot--'phew its hot'
BlueCat
07-19-2005, 05:28 PM
hot as in good looking, not hot--'phew its hot'
LMAO :D Phew it's hot.
GHoSToKeR
07-19-2005, 08:13 PM
Fair enough. That really is an open-minded idealogy. But I find it pretty improbable in our culture. We are taught to be judgemental of others (by the media more than anything), especially of the body. People are conditioned to feel bad about bulges, body hair, cellulite, acne, varicose veins, sagging, drooping, wrinkles, swelling...anything short of perfection pretty much. So in a society such as ours (I assume you are American...correct me if Im wrong) where we are judged for possessing any and all of those flaws, out of bitterment and self-hatred it's hard to not also judge others for the very things we judge of ourselves.
Am I saying it's a good thing or acceptable to be so judgemental? Absolutely not. But we're talking about human being's here who are biased and judgemental instinctually. The original poster seemed to want honest answers, and I answered truthfully to the best of my ability as far as my personal feelings go. If my answers annoyed you, I really dont know what to say other than I was being honest. I'm sorry you didn't appreciate the honesty. I dont like that I have these judgements either, but I consider myself someone who is very loving, caring, and non-judgemental of others for the most part. I believe moreso than the average person. That's why I feel that if I am uneasy with the idea of public nudity, and am put off by people flopping around naked...then I really dont see nudity being acceptable anytime soon in our overly and openly critical society.
I thank you, though, for taking the time to post your thoughts in an nonaggressive and mature fashion. It gave me a better idea as to your point of view and where you were coming from. :)I didn't mean to call you or your post stupid.. it just annoyed me because I automatically you were one of those people who are only hung up on what people look like, and they really piss me off.
We all have prejudices, and we're all judgemental sometimes... so as much as I disagree with where what you're saying (regards to nudity..) I can see where you're coming from also..
**shakes hands with Ousted**
Welcome to the boards, by the way! :)
PS... Naw, i'm from the UK :)
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