legal issues

[RaoulDuke45]

one of my really good friends is in some legal trouble but i know its not too much heres the situation, he was hanging out with a friend of another friend, guy a, and guy A stole a bike before this and offered the bike to ride home and bring it back to him my friend to then got arrested for ridinga stolen bike, what kind of trouble is he in, i know its not much but hes a good friend of mine

[Beeblebrox.420]

You do know laws vary from one country, state and even town to another, right?

[Beeblebrox.420]

usually cops would stop 100 with a nic... In English, please?

[unmeg]

I dont know Nick a FELONY IS A FELONY,the charge is receiving stolen property right?
depening on judge, D.A. ,& priors.He could walk or do lil time.

NOBODY LIKES A THIEF!!!!!

[RaoulDuke45]

well my friend is black in a white city, riding at night. when we hang out we'll get stopped for nothing, asshole cops

[Beeblebrox.420]

[Cops] would stop 100 people with a nic (100 people that have weed basically) before they would stop a person for a stolen bike.
Well, sorry, but that's bullshit. A crime is a crime, whether it's weed or a stolen bike. If the police have a report of a stolen bike, and they SEE someone with a bike matching the description, they will stop the person and arrest them if they have reason to believe it is the bike in question.

[RaoulDuke45]

i know he didnt do it,he said he didnt think the people were pressing charges at first but he still has to go into questioning,i told him that if i were in the same sitution that id go to the police staion ask whose bike he was riding and apoligize before hand

[Killa.Kali]

as long as the bike was stolen from an honest person (or someone who wasnt involved in illegalities) then that kid likely told his parents and filed a report, in small/medium towns that can mean some action for bored cops or just someone who recognizes the described bike.

If the theif had a shred of IQ he would have fenced that thing or paint it fuckin quick, instead he pawned it off on your friend knowing hed be in trouble, anyone with the balls to steal a bike probably has enough brains to know what hes doing.

Your friends facing a slap on the wrist and a fine at most, hes only facing possesion of stolen property, not facing the grand theft charge of conducting the robery.

Oh and i have a question, whats wrong with Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas? that was one of the most honest hardcore looks into an addict out there :D

[RaoulDuke45]

shit i love the movie, me and one of my friends thought the, you have to crazy.....
i just liked the qoute

[Beeblebrox.420]

Your friends facing a slap on the wrist and a fine at most, hes only facing possesion of stolen property... You do not have enough information to state this as a fact. The only legal advice one should be following in a situation like this is to keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer. Do NOT ever talk to the police without your lawyer present.

[Beeblebrox.420]

The fact that it is more difficult to recover a stolen bike does not mean the police do not try. And if ALL the friends you know that smoke weed have been arrested at least once, then your friends are idiots. I've been smoking weed for over 20 years and have never once been arrested for it.

[Beeblebrox.420]

now theres some bullshit, you wanna piss some cops off at somethin like a stolen bike dont say anything and have them screamin for nothing, dont give any usable info but just never dont say a word, unless its over somethin BIG. Wrong. Ask any lawyer. You have the right to remain silent AND the right to an attorney for a reason. Use it. If using your rights pisses a few cops off, so what?

[Beeblebrox.420]

Here, read this (http://www.lawcollective.org/article.php?id=42):

Many people worry that if they donâ??t cooperate fully with the police and answer all their questions, the officers will increase the charges against them. This is a mistaken assumption. Higher charges are more likely if you give the police additional information. And in any case, the offenses that the police choose are mere suggestions. Itâ??s the prosecutor who actually decides what crimes to charge against you, based on the information in the police report. So, the less you say, the less material the prosecutor has for thinking up charges.

[makor01]

dude dont argue with beeb, didnt you know he bans people and locks threads because of this?

[Beeblebrox.420]

the point is bigger charges aren't comin off a stolen bike You cannot know this. Being in possession of the stolen bike is sufficient evidence for a prima facie charge of larceny, which, depending on jurisdiction and other factors (including the value of the bike), could potentially result in jail time. We do not have enough information to give any other advice, and following any other advice is foolish. Only a lawyer licensed to practice in that jurisdiction can properly advice this person.

[RaoulDuke45]

do you think he'll go to jail being 17, and do you think its wrong to rat the person out that actually did steal the bike? i hate narcs, but what guy A did was really messed up

[OreO]

where do u live? i dunno i doubt JAIL for this bike im not sure where do u live?

[makor01]

i seriously doubt he will go to jail, but the people here like to argue more about who knows more about law blah blah, and just get off the point. very doubtful that he will go to jail if this is his first offence and he is 17.

[RaoulDuke45]

i live in indiana

[Beeblebrox.420]

do you think he'll go to jail being 17, and do you think its wrong to rat the person out that actually did steal the bike? i hate narcs, but what guy A did was really messed up I don't know. As I said, it depends on a number of factors, none of which you've posted such as the value of the bicycle in question, the jurisdiction and the specific charges the DA decides to file. It is not likely that he will go to jail, as a minor, but it it is not without precedent. At the very least, your friend ought to put in a call to the local Legal Aid Society, who can advise him for free.

[RaoulDuke45]

he also said the bike sucks, but i would give the name of the guy he actually did steal it, that guy is a ass

[Beeblebrox.420]

Incidentally, in many states, a person is only considered a minor if he is 16 or younger. For certain crimes, a 17-year-old may be charged as an adult, and will face adult penalties. I don't know the specifics for Indiana, and it's too late for me to be up searching (7:00 AM comes real early). But, see this site for a list of Legal Aid sources in Indiana:

http://www.lsoi.org/stc_site/

[RaoulDuke45]

allright thanks

[unmeg]

Beeble is just telling you like a lawyer would covering all bases b-4 showing his ass.
Its something more of us should practice
CYA