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sheist
07-06-2005, 10:40 PM
help me out!! i've wasted 3 dutchmasters already

sir smokes alot
07-06-2005, 11:04 PM
i suck at rolling to but just keep trying and check out some rolling guides

slipknotpsycho
07-06-2005, 11:05 PM
there is nothing that anyone can help you with try and fail try and fail it's the process we all go through til we learn . .......only help i can give is buy a back of bugler, and a box of cheap ass cigars and try you damnedest to roll everyone of them, after that you should be able to ATLEAST roll a smokeable blunt.

rollinKansas
07-07-2005, 01:38 AM
only expierence will make u better. I do think it's easier to roll a joint if the weed u use isn't crispy. the stickier, less crunchy bud tends to hold itself together while ur movin ur fingers around and less falls out, which i know is a problem when u first start rollin.

Xx420.JUGGALO.420xX
07-07-2005, 01:54 AM
thats why you buy a bowl or a bong. or make one

oland
07-07-2005, 03:39 AM
Heres a tip: roll your own cigs! They are less than 2USD a pouch, and you get like 30 cigs from it, which is = to 1.5 of a regular pack. Thay come with 35 rolling papers, so with in a couple packs of tobacco you will be a pro. If you want to skip that, go ahead, but it will make you an expert roller fast. If you end up skipping it, use this tip: Take a dollar bill and fold it in half the short side, so both long ends are touching. It should look like a V now. Fold your paper down the length and place in the groove of the V. put in your herb. Now gently rock back and forth the forming joint in your fingers, until the edge of the paper with no glue gets caught, and eventually tucked undfer the other edge of the paper. Now once its caught underneath, just finsih rolling it. Pinch an end and lick it closed. Now pack both ends of the join twords the center. roll up one end closed, and on the other end just flatten it, cause that end will go in your mouth

stankystank
07-07-2005, 05:18 AM
Heres a tip: roll your own cigs!

thats what i did until i got good then rolling joints is just a easy thing but you should zigzags easier too roll with

Dick Justice
07-07-2005, 05:25 AM
Or hell, ez widers if you can't do it with zigzags. They even make double-sized ezwiders, for when "Two Fingers Charlie" wants to roll one.

sToNeDpEnGuIn420
07-07-2005, 07:01 AM
I suck at free-hand rolling. but here is a great method. Take a mechincal pencil, roll the joint around that and use the part where the lead comes out to twist one end. Take it off the pencil. pack the weed in there, i use an incense stick to pack it down in there, but anything skinny enough will work.<<< this is the only way i roll J's and i love it :D

Encatuse
07-07-2005, 08:44 AM
They even make double-sized ezwiders, for when "Two Fingers Charlie" wants to roll one.

HAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Seriously though, this is prolly a dumb question but can you get high off papers?

Sizzla
07-07-2005, 10:57 AM
I suck at free-hand rolling. but here is a great method. Take a mechincal pencil, roll the joint around that and use the part where the lead comes out to twist one end. Take it off the pencil. pack the weed in there, i use an incense stick to pack it down in there, but anything skinny enough will work.<<< this is the only way i roll J's and i love it :D

What do you use as a roach. and this doesn't make it coned does it ?

Oli
07-07-2005, 11:02 AM
These crazy americans don't do roach or coning. Only practice will make you better, that and watching other people skining up.

partyguy420
07-07-2005, 11:37 AM
man fuck off oli i atleast kno how to roll unlike these other fuckers. i only kno how to roll thanks to how cheap it is to roll your own cigs. i can roll the perfect joint becuz of those. i havent rlled in a while so im not sure.

Mirno Sctlnd
07-07-2005, 01:05 PM
Rolling backy does help get the ol' tuckin sorted but theirs still a BIG difference between a single backy skin which won't pour out every where and a joint base with dry as fuck weed but practice is the way forward. Also dont be tempted to use a rolling matt I used to and although it makes rolling easier it also makes you relly on having a matt on you when ever you wont a joint which sucks.

Juggalotus17
07-07-2005, 01:28 PM
Learn to roll. Best thing you'll ever invest in as a stoner. Also helps out alot in social situations. You look like a fucking fool after you waste a blunt and you have to find tinfoil and a bottle to be able to get high.

Oli
07-07-2005, 01:49 PM
man fuck off oli i atleast kno how to roll unlike these other fuckers. i only kno how to roll thanks to how cheap it is to roll your own cigs. i can roll the perfect joint becuz of those. i havent rlled in a while so im not sure.

Calm down, I was only telling him that most americans don't cone or use roach...

SENSESFAIL
07-07-2005, 04:10 PM
I suck at free-hand rolling. but here is a great method. Take a mechincal pencil, roll the joint around that and use the part where the lead comes out to twist one end. Take it off the pencil. pack the weed in there, i use an incense stick to pack it down in there, but anything skinny enough will work.<<< this is the only way i roll J's and i love it :D
i can roll some ok ones, but im going to try that, pack a nice fatty.

Spoony
07-07-2005, 07:01 PM
Try practising with green tea, it really works and helps.


And using a roach makes it far easier when learning to roll, it gives you something solid and non sticky to start the wrap, and it gives it a natural slightly coned shape.


also, if the joint is loose, lick it, get it nice and wet, and put it back and forwards through a lighter a load of times, it tightens it up.

henrypj
07-07-2005, 07:03 PM
meanwhile, fuck your mother.

Dick Justice
07-07-2005, 07:09 PM
These crazy americans don't do roach or coning. Only practice will make you better, that and watching other people skining up.

I actually do roaches and coning since I learned about it from a friend who's always in and out of Amsterdam. Passed it onto some American buddies too, so now me and my guys will always come around with a bunch of tidy spliffs and put the other guys' crumpled cocoon joints to shame. :D

sawleaf
07-07-2005, 07:23 PM
I always used to try and roll joints and I would get frustrated because I sucked so bad and would always spill bud everywhere. Just started trying again a few months ago and out of a lot of failures came a perfect cone. Then they just got better and better and a few months later they are perfect professionally rolled fat bats! Just stick to it and you will achieve the full glory of a perfect joint!!! :)

Dick Justice
07-07-2005, 07:25 PM
School on the other hand, tried it once, wasn't too good at it, never looked back. :D

BluntArtist
07-07-2005, 08:05 PM
Once you start getting good, you'll take a lot of pride in rolling the nicest blunts around. It just takes repetition. After a while, you'll be able to roll one in the dark. Start off with cigarillos; once you get good with those, it's fuckin' cake to roll a spliff with 4 blunts.

3 Sheets To The Wind
07-07-2005, 08:12 PM
I'd suggest getting good, as i used to be able to roll, but can't now :( and my mate that can roll really well has a reputation of being a great roller, people ask him to roll cigs and spliffs for them all the time, giving him a few drags to say thanks, so it's worth it

slipknotpsycho
07-07-2005, 08:44 PM
These crazy americans don't do roach or coning. Only practice will make you better, that and watching other people skining up.
bullshit, i've done both....but i never rolled with tobacco (i hear cones are traditionally done with tabbacco and weed) i just rolled a weed cone...that shit gives you a resonated as hell roach.

sToNeDpEnGuIn420
07-07-2005, 09:08 PM
I dont know what coning is, And imo why use a roach, when you can just use roach clips and smoke it to the end? Because the way i roll that part you twist, leaves enough room that you can smoke all the weed in it, as long as you got roach clips.

slipknotpsycho
07-07-2005, 09:29 PM
i coned cuz it makes a hell of a resonated roach, i've only tried the roach thing once and didn't like it. to all who can't roll, take the time to learn cuz there ain't nothing better than handrolling a joint to smoke at 420 nothing short of perfect.

sawleaf
07-07-2005, 10:21 PM
I dont know what coning is, And imo why use a roach, when you can just use roach clips and smoke it to the end? Because the way i roll that part you twist, leaves enough room that you can smoke all the weed in it, as long as you got roach clips.

Why not use a roach and roll the joint longer then with more bud????????? :)

yocass
07-07-2005, 10:36 PM
why not... not use a roach and roll the joint longer with even more bud? just admit it, the roach is useless :P

sawleaf
07-07-2005, 10:52 PM
why not... not use a roach and roll the joint longer with even more bud? just admit it, the roach is useless :P

Why don't we agree that a huge joint that we both can't finish is best, that way the end is not an issue. :)

Spoony
07-08-2005, 03:19 PM
In The UK, we use cardboard roaches so we dont get herb and baccy in our mouths, and resin coated lips. It also gives you something to hold onto for the duration of the joint, no godam roach clips to forget to bring to a sesh.

it also allows you to pack the joint tighter, by giving it a firm, non movable base.

Still, different folks, different strokes...

Porkchop913
07-09-2005, 01:47 AM
I suck at free-hand rolling. but here is a great method. Take a mechincal pencil, roll the joint around that and use the part where the lead comes out to twist one end. Take it off the pencil. pack the weed in there, i use an incense stick to pack it down in there, but anything skinny enough will work.<<< this is the only way i roll J's and i love it :D
same thing i do lol cept if u dont have a pen use a cheap shaving razor makes a good fatty.

HaZarD
07-09-2005, 05:12 AM
mayn practice makes perfect

HaZarD
07-09-2005, 05:13 AM
In The UK, we use cardboard roaches so we dont get herb and baccy in our mouths, and resin coated lips. It also gives you something to hold onto for the duration of the joint, no godam roach clips to forget to bring to a sesh.

it also allows you to pack the joint tighter, by giving it a firm, non movable base.

Still, different folks, different strokes...

yea mayn dats just a filter

Ganj
07-14-2005, 09:43 AM
help me out!! i've wasted 3 dutchmasters already


alright, man...calm down. if you've got a pipe laying around i suggest you hit it once just so it can help you reach a zen state.

now, evenly distribute the marijuana on the paper. after that is done you want to press the unglued side under the marijuana, making it secure. then you want to squeeze your pointer(can also use the middle finger for more support) and thumb against the joint and just move your pointer finger down and the thumb in an upward motion, repeat this motion until you get to the glued paper. now, just like the glued part and continue "twisting" the joint. voila, you have a doob. happy smoking, bro.

Jim Morrison
07-14-2005, 05:35 PM
i can roll pretty well but still some small pieces fall out the sides while rolling so i put them back in the baggy i just bought a roller and now i have no problems with stuff falling out and the joints look perfect everytime i never used cardboard roaches though never really felt the need too

you can get a small roller for $3-5 or a long one For $8-15
even with a roller its still good to know how to roll a joint by hand so keep at it

kaela
07-14-2005, 07:37 PM
Man in downtown Knoxville there was a man rolling joints as fast as he could right outside of the bathrooms in this really fancy restaurant. I saw him out of the corner of my eye and it looked like he was playing with himself.