clones

[HerbLovinRockMonkey]

i have a 3" clone 4 nodes working on the fifth node . i was wandering when i should flower it and how much would i get.

[cannabecea]

Hey

The qty of buds i unknow because it changes with a lot of variables like lights ferts size of plant strain etc etc but you should wait until the plant (clone) get it is maximum of hight, like 4 of 5 feet or just wait until the plant buds naturally then you can switch to 12/12

see ya

[HerbLovinRockMonkey]

what do you mean buds naturally

[KanMan]

Hey
but you should wait until the plant (clone) get it is maximum of hight, like 4 of 5 feet or just wait until the plant buds naturally then you can switch to 12/12

Yikes 4 or 5 feet? No don't do that!

Kannabis plants will grow 1/3 to 2/3 more taller in flower cycle. You would need a very tall ceiling for a grow that you suggest.
Kannbis plants need a 12 / 12 day night cycle to flower properly. Some strains show pre flowers but not buds if in the vegetative cycle.

Good Growing!

[Tech]

Buds naturaly when it gets to 4 -5 ft??????????????????????????
What are you talking about?

[cannabecea]

HEy

The natural budding is...well...natural. When you grow outside you cant control the light cycle so if you grow your plant inside it happens (well to also, when i plant seeds in november they bud in december even if not on 12/12...natural instinct i think) that the plant buds because the sun is on the 12/12 cycle.

anyway a plant cant be raised so you can do what ever you want to it

see ya

[Tech]

What??????????
Plants bud as they get a shorter photo period each day. Some have been known to show signs of sexing with as many as 18 hours of light per day. But most need a 15 hour or less photo period to flower. 12/12 is a happy medium .
They don,t know what month it is.
And when you plant seeds in november they are budding in december? and you get bud on a month old plant without putting it under a 12/12 light cycle?

Forgive me if i have missunderstood you but i have never herd such a thing nore seen it . And i,m no newbee.

[cannabecea]

Hey

After 4 years of growing i should know what im talking about....but i learned that (from personal experience) plants buds even if not on 12/12 in winter...i don't friggin know how but it does...its just weird..anyway

See ya peace

[Tech]

What light / dark ratio are ypu vegging them on?

[Lit Up]

Whoa! thats something, i beg to differ and ill never admit to that happening maybe with you. You are either lighting them wrong or not shutting out extra light from outside. If plants "knew" what time of year it was, then the whole world would be in need of weed around the winter. I know many people whose favorite time to grow is in the winter so they have a fresh supply for spring. Are you goin to argue with everyone here, cause no one is going to agree that you are right. Peace



CjL

[cannabecea]

Hey

Im sorry but i don't want to argue but i want to say that it is possible. My plant on 18/6 closed in the closet and my window is always closed by the curtain there is no sunlight in my room, neither in my closet. IT IS A MYSTERY!!!! If any Canadien haves the same "problem" send feed back or somethuing coz i want to solve this mystery. I don't where to search but il come out with an answer anytime soon. Again i don't need anything posts/replys like: dude your gay etc etc.... Id on't know what happens!!! Its just a single mystery (like: why does pigeons move their head when they walk???) :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Anyway peace guys ;)

[godzbudz]

course plants can tell wot time of year it is, otherwise they wouldnt flowerat the same time of year each year. im talking about outside here, so when u r growing indoors the fotoperiod used for flowering will be roughly the same as the sun would give the plant at the time of year when it flowers.of course the plant wont know what month it is etc but it will be able to tell the season. weed flowers in the autumn right? wait till autumn and check how many hours of light per day u get, most places its about 12hours a day(this does vary depending on latitude or longitude dunno which is which)

[Tech]

Yes plants do know when it,s autm but if you have got your plants on 18/6 under a lamp they will think its summer and WILL NOT flower even if it is september .
Its longitude by the way.

[Razer]

Wrong, latitude is correct. when you are speakin of how far north or south, it is latitude. As in, I live at about 45 deg latitude. It's really not a point for debate though, break out a dictionary. Let's hope you are not an artillary gunner.

Neither is the other topic. Autumn, as any seasonal term would be, is a relative term. It is May 4th all over planet earth, but not all plants think it is spring. It is relative to your hemishpere, isn't it (rhetorically, don't answer)? Thus, all the plant knows is the progression of light to darkness. So, whether you are north or south of the equator or in a closet, it is light soley that determines the flowering cycle and not a calendar. :cool:

[cannabecea]

Hey

Thx for the help guys its very apreciated ;)

[az666]

that shit is whack. I got quite lost and confused and was just wondering what the best amount of light to give them to get them to grow nice not too big but big enough and to get some nice bud. Anyone

[Tech]

Razer your biology is fine but your geography is shit.

[HvyFuel]

Wordnet Dictionary - Latitude - [n] an imaginary line around the Earth parallel to the equator. So Razer's right.

As for the weed. "Botanically, cannabis is classified as a short-day plants(SDP). This means they must have a light period shorter than a critical length to flower." Which means in English, under 18/6 there is a chance a plant may flower on it's own, under 24/7 it should never happen. But nature likes things that should never happen.

Every silver lining has a cloud.

[Tech]

That is what i say lat is parallel to the equator east and west and long is pole o pole , north to south.
Whose reading this wrong?

[godzbudz]

my point was that depending on how u have set ur lights that the plant will believe it to be the time of year when it would recieve that level of light

[Tech]

Yes .

[Razer]

So Tech, I see that you conceed the orientation of latitude and longitude, but another lesson seems in order. Take for example the lattitude and longitude of say the airport in

Redding CA 40° 31' N 122° 18' W

The first designation is lattitude. Again, not an opinion but a fact. The second, obviously, is longitude. See the N and W respectively? It is true that lattitudinal lines run East and West parrallel to the equator, nonetheless lattitude is expressed in terms of North and South to indicate how many degrees away from the equator you will find a parrallel line running through your location. Get it? Like wise, Longitude is expressed conversely. I can see how you are confused, but if you keep arguing the point, you are just belying your ignorance on the subject. Nothing personal.

Its actually quite and interesting topic, you see because you can tell lattitude with a sextant but not longitude. The latter requires time measurement. It's why keeping accurate time at sea was such a critical breakthrough in ocean navigation. Many ships were lost until in the 1700's a nautical time piece was developed that was not disturbed by the movement of the boat as all the previous devices (mostly pendulum based) had been plagued by. So, time tells you how far East or West you are in relation to the suns path across the sky, thus giving you your longitude, the North South line through your position.

Sorry if I seem smug, but patience is one thing I definitely struggle with when it comes to insistance on ignorance. :cool:

[Razer]

Have you heard of the DMZ (Demilitarized zone) in Korea. The 2nd division of the United States army has been helping to enforce a cease fire their between North and South Korea for more than 50 years. It is also called the 38th parallel. Guess why they call it that? Because it is the line running east west parallel to the equator at 38* North. It is also the lattitude designation. Korea's longitude is roughly 128* East at it's center.

If you are still confused, try this link. :cool:

http://www.maptools.com/UsingLatLon/LatLon.html

Now honestly Tech, do you still think my geography is shity?

[Tech]

I beg your pardon Razer my geography,s shit.
I knew the lines of lat go east to west and long goes north to south but didn,t know how they were used exactly.
Yes of coarse you are right Latatude would measure degrees north and south from the equator.
I take it all back i,m a twat.
I had in my head that because longatude run north to south so thats how you measured north to south lol.

[Razer]

Nice to see you come around Tech. Didn't mean to be an ass to you, but as I mentioned, sometimes I get frustrated. Anyone else have this problem? lol :cool: