Seed Bank Question

[Humboldt215]

Hopefully I have the proper area to ask this question.

I feel the urge lately for some real strong skunk. The kind of skunk
that smells like you ran 1 over in your car, I remember stuff like this but
havent grown it in awhile.

Which is the best bank to get Super Skunk or Skunk #1

Thanks!

H215

[Shovelhandle]

The stink is gone from 99% of the skunk offerings. I've heard of very few real dealio stinkin' skunks. Good luck.

[EvilCartman]

I feel the urge lately for some real strong skunk. The kind of skunk
that smells like you ran 1 over in your car, I remember stuff like this but
havent grown it in awhile.

Which is the best bank to get Super Skunk or Skunk #1



I don't know about the above mentioned strains, but Reserva Privada R.K.S. is a pretty danged smelly skunk, closest I've come across to the old-school skunk. :jointsmile:

[SamLyle]

Man, there are some really smelly Skunk out there but does the strong smell really contribute to the expected potency of MJ buds? In some cases they don't.

[Shovelhandle]

FYI, Super Skunk isn't skunky in the least.

[catbuds]

I don't know about the above mentioned strains, but Reserva Privada R.K.S. is a pretty danged smelly skunk, closest I've come across to the old-school skunk. :jointsmile:


Was reading the history of skunk just last night, & you've now idea just how right you are. Road kill was the original. Then they threw in some Acapulco gold in the the mix to sweeten it up, some called this sweet skunk, but that was the begining of sk#1. Then your other skunks came into being when they'd kick a little afghani back into it, & yada yada yada, it's nolonger skunk imo. So if you can get your hands on RKS, keep that seed stock going, ya know? Perpetuate the species. (But beware of the odor!) :) :) :)


P.S. some was adding sativas for the purpose of cutting down the odor.

[SamLyle]

Thanks for this info. Sure is Helpful. When one strain gets to be popular, other breeders especially smaller ones perhaps will try to come up with their own version to ride on the popularity? It is best to stay with the original then.

[catbuds]

You know its one thing to add the genetics to another strain to improve it, but when you try to add weaker genes to an already potent variety, all you're doing is diluting the gene pool. I see this happening to kush, northern lights & afghani too. Breed with it? Sure. But don't let the original get lost in the confusion. Thats kinda my pet peeve. Loosing the original. :(

Northern lights kicked ass. #'s 1-5 can't hold the original a light to go by imo.

[SamLyle]

Possibly the reason why some say there are breeders of strains that prefer breeding from the same family of strains to lock the genes. But as I understand from what I read somewhere, in-breeding can also result in abnormalities and different phenos showing so the breeder need to be really scientific in the approach and cull unwanted hybrids.

[catbuds]

Yes & no. Let compare it to dog breeding. Inbreeding is mother to son, father to daughter, brother to sister. Line breeding is cousins, aunt to nephew, uncle to niece. (Lets just say the breed is chihuahuas). Lets say there's a genetic marker on # 14 of a dna strand for 'rage' (a loosley used term for k-nine insanity leaning toward viscousness). It may be dormant, just hanging out there on marker 14 till something comes along & triggers it. In breed, or even closely line breed for a few generations, & BANG! there it is, fully activated & you now have bred a viscous line. Line breeding to more distant relatives (2nd cousins, great aunt etc etc), dilutes this chance of 'doubling up' on bad genes while maintaining the stability of the breed. Even more distantly removed relatives decreases this chance of doubling up even more untill the chance is null. Not saying some day we'll see a man eating pot plant, ha! But what we DO see are pop up mutations, strains loosing their vigor, some strains become more susceptible to pests & disease. You can greatly reduce the chances of this by getting seeds of the same strain from else where, growing them out & using one of those males to pollenate your girls, a male from your line to pollenate a female from the new seeds, & back to business for a few more generations. In animal husbandry, this is called an out cross. Not crossing to a different breed (strain), but a different line of the same breed (strain). While I don't know of any pot breeders who practice this, I used to. I'd stabilize my line, pass out seeds & in 3-4 generation, swap pollen. While this wasn't outcrossing, it was line breeding. A bit closer than I would have liked (since I hadn't 'commercialized' my line, limited me somewhat) but it served the purpose. This is why I've been looking for a pollen resource. Pollen swapping should be more common than it is. Sorry this became so long. Don't think I could have condensed farther without making it incomprehensible. :) :) :)

[Humboldt215]

Hi Everybody!

Look at all the responses for my question, thanks to all!

catbuds that was some good info on the skunk.

EvilCartman after reading your reply I went to the breeders webby (Reserva Privada) and checked out the R.K.S. It 'sounds' like what I am looking for. It referred me to seedsman (anybody got experience with them?) and a order was placed.

[SamLyle]

Yes & no. Let compare it to dog breeding. Inbreeding is mother to son, father to daughter, brother to sister. Line breeding is cousins, aunt to nephew, uncle to niece. (Lets just say the breed is chihuahuas). Lets say there's a genetic marker on # 14 of a dna strand for 'rage' (a loosley used term for k-nine insanity leaning toward viscousness). It may be dormant, just hanging out there on marker 14 till something comes along & triggers it. In breed, or even closely line breed for a few generations, & BANG! there it is, fully activated & you now have bred a viscous line. Line breeding to more distant relatives (2nd cousins, great aunt etc etc), dilutes this chance of 'doubling up' on bad genes while maintaining the stability of the breed. Even more distantly removed relatives decreases this chance of doubling up even more untill the chance is null. Not saying some day we'll see a man eating pot plant, ha! But what we DO see are pop up mutations, strains loosing their vigor, some strains become more susceptible to pests & disease. You can greatly reduce the chances of this by getting seeds of the same strain from else where, growing them out & using one of those males to pollenate your girls, a male from your line to pollenate a female from the new seeds, & back to business for a few more generations. In animal husbandry, this is called an out cross. Not crossing to a different breed (strain), but a different line of the same breed (strain). While I don't know of any pot breeders who practice this, I used to. I'd stabilize my line, pass out seeds & in 3-4 generation, swap pollen. While this wasn't outcrossing, it was line breeding. A bit closer than I would have liked (since I hadn't 'commercialized' my line, limited me somewhat) but it served the purpose. This is why I've been looking for a pollen resource. Pollen swapping should be more common than it is. Sorry this became so long. Don't think I could have condensed farther without making it incomprehensible. :) :) :)

Very god explanation. Thanks a lot for sharing. Line breeding it is then. Although t is still a form of in-breeding, still it is much better to come up with a seed strain. How do they call it when the genes are finally locked after several generations of line-breeding? Thanks Bro. Really informative post you have here.

[SamLyle]

Cool thread and answers. Thanks guys.:thumbsup: :smokin: :cool:

[catbuds]

Samlyle, I can't think of that term to save my life (its been nearly 40 yrs since I studied plant/animal genetics). But what you have is a new strain that breeds true.
-- Humboldt, I agree. Think you've found what you're looking for. Reserva Privada has a good rep for preserving & providing those old school genetics. I like crossing RKS to Big Bud. (I mean REAL Big Bud, I've bought seeds that just WEREN'T! ). What I got was the same high, taste & smell as RKS, on shorter faster plants. But then again, that's to be expected when you look at what Big Bud is
-- A little tip to both of you. Here's how to keep your hybrid vigor. Male & female mother/father plants to clone from. Each time you want to produce those vigorous seeds, put a clone of each into flower & breed them. Mass produce F1 hybrids while maintaing hybrid vigor. Store seeds in fridg, air tight container with silicon pk, they will stay viable for years. Humboldt, you can go this with your best M&F from your RKS & help preserve that wonderful strain. :) :) :)

[Humboldt215]

Moments ago I received a parcel from Royal Mail!

I have my 6 Reserva Privada R.K.S. seeds in the breeders packaging and 5 freebies which are sleestack x skunk 1 (will update later if wrong)

If the quality of seed and product along with being true to its description is also reflected in their delivery time (seedsman) it will be a great strain.

I guess I should start and get-A-crackin'

[catbuds]

Hey Humboldt! Congratulations there buddy! So now you know how I felt when mine came in the mail. One word of caution..... calm down, & when you RUN to get started, watch where you're going so you don't trip & 'spill the beans'! LOL! :) Hope you have a grow log, if not, you'll have to start one so we can share in your happiness.... that shits contagious you know! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

[EvilCartman]

Moments ago I received a parcel from Royal Mail!

I have my 6 Reserva Privada R.K.S. seeds in the breeders packaging and 5 freebies which are sleestack x skunk 1 (will update later if wrong)


Hope it lives up to your expectations. :)

Let us know how that Sleestack cross pans out. I've tried all the DNA skunk crosses, but my sleestacks were all males. (the OG18 x Skunk was nice, but not very "skunky")

[PuffPuffPassDragon]

Wow,

So I come from a different background with knowledge of most things that deal with turn-in, apex, and turn-out as well as IDPA and IPSC. My gf and I have been looking to supply our own need and I didn't realize the vast knowledge that I was not the least bit aware of. I am reading everything I can to learn as much as possible. Thanks to all who post to enlighten us noobs.

~PPP-Dragon

[catbuds]

Be all you can be, READ! Yeah! Glad too hear you're starting off on the right foot. Many just jump in, run ito trouble & then ask questions. You're on the right road & will save yourself a lot of problems. Welcome to the family! :) :) :)

[PuffPuffPassDragon]

Thanks for the warm welcome Catbud

I feel like a 3yr walking into the Library of Cannagress (play on Congress :thumbsup: ) for the first time and every book is a lesson I need to store away for future use. I have a running lesson guide and I think I might pick up Ryan's online guide too.

I am fully aware I am in an information deficit but at least I know where I can go to spend some hours flipping through threads to learn as much as possible.

PPP-Dragon


Be all you can be, READ! Yeah! Glad too hear you're starting off on the right foot. Many just jump in, run ito trouble & then ask questions. You're on the right road & will save yourself a lot of problems. Welcome to the family! :) :) :)

[Humboldt215]

I got two crackers!

I hope that is not racist/politically incorrect against seeds LOL

Anywayz, woke up this AM and 2 of the 3 seeds i placed between a damp paper towel have cracked! it has been approx 36 hrs?

Does anybody know of a R.K.S. grow log I could check out? A few searches I have done returned nothing of value.

Happy Thanksgiving to all

[Hotshot123]

Oringinal sensible seeds. Sea of seeds. They grow some stuff out in california call juicy fruit, which also has several other names. It is real stinky and very heavey body stone. I think this might be the stuff you are looking for. Good luck, and happying growing.

[catbuds]

You know, I love skunk bud so much, that I actually came to like the smell of the animal. From a distance of course. Its okay guys, don't worry. I won't be dabbing any behind my ears! LOL! ;)

[Shovelhandle]

IBL, in-bred line. was that the term you were searching for back a number of posts ago, Cat?

[catbuds]

No. Its one word refering to the stabilization of the IBL & I can't think of it. Think maybe I have that old age disease, you know, sometimers. Cause sometimes I can't remember shit! LOL! :) :) :)

[SamLyle]

Thanks for the warm welcome Catbud

I feel like a 3yr walking into the Library of Cannagress (play on Congress :thumbsup: ) for the first time and every book is a lesson I need to store away for future use. I have a running lesson guide and I think I might pick up Ryan's online guide too.

I am fully aware I am in an information deficit but at least I know where I can go to spend some hours flipping through threads to learn as much as possible.

PPP-Dragon

Cannagress. I like that :)
Yep, sure is helpful reading them materials.
the posts here are also quite informative and I can gather lots of new and useful information
Thanks to the experts for sharing your knowledge. :thumbsup:

[Hotshot123]

Some one correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the CBD in the MJ is the chemical that smells. Therefore the more CBD, the stinker the plant. I am trying out a G-13 x SS, Just pop up. About another 4 months. Can't smell it yet, but think it will later. I do know that the more CBD mix with Thc, gives you more of a couch lock, or knock out. Good luck all, and happying growing.

[Shovelhandle]

I think you're incorrect in that assumption, Hotshot.

[catbuds]

Well I was just informed (on an other forum) that women are stupid & had no business on any of these forums, to shut my stupid pie hole & go back to the kitchen. But I'll give my stupid opinion anyway.... THC is the psychoactive substance that gives you your 'high'. The CBD's make you sleepy, hungry (&horny), & helps with pain relief. Terpenoids give it its distinctive aroma & FLAVOR. But since I don't know what I'm talking about, guess I'll just go SET THE DAMNED KITCHEN ON FIRE & go back out with my power tools & finish building my cabinet!.........Gurrrrr! (sorry about the rant, I just need to go slam some lumber around)

[Hotshot123]

I have run across a brand call Black Domiac X Super Skunk. Sea of seeds, Rhino seeds. Good luck, and happying growing.

[Hotshot123]

Also, Sensi Seeds.

[Hotshot123]

Scratch that Sensi Seeds, they want sale to the US. Good luck, and happy growing.