She is dying, please help me

[SSDIPainGuy]

I posted this in the sick plant area and no one responds there. I just re-potted into 5gal hempy bucket from the cup she sprouted in. Straight perlite, 400w mh about 2' above the plants, GH nutes, also using rapid start, Dutch masters gold silica, super thrive, ph'd to 5.6-5.9. They were a little root bound in the cups, the roots had circled the bottom of the cup a few times, also I cut off some of the roots when I cut the bottom of the cup off to transplant, but the others look great. First two leaves curled up and over themselves and got real crispy. Then I noticed all the black marks on this other leaf and this one is getting real crispy. Any thoughts to help me save her? Please294864294865

[Shovelhandle]

I can't tell from the photo but until the roots reach down into the reservoir (bottom 2") they are going to need frequent watering. Cutting the bottom of the roots wasn't helpful. Usually it shouldn't take too long for the roots to find water. Straight perlite can't hold water like the Hempy 75/25 mix. That's what vermiculite does, holds water.

[catbuds]

Shovel's right about the roots & the perlite & vermiculite. This plant seems to be transpiring faster than it can take up water. Try spray misting it occasionally (don't over do it) to help slow down transpiration. Good luck.

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[SSDIPainGuy]

Thank u guys for the tips, would that account for the leaves turning black? Thanks again guys, I really appreciate the help.

[Shovelhandle]

leaves turned black? that's not good....

[Jbone77]

I am by no means an expert but you have a 400 watt light over a freshly transplanted plant in a 5 gallon hempy bucket, its planted 6" below the lip of the bucket and the top of the perlite is dry 20 minutes after u water it from the heat of the light, your humidity is probably 20% and it has no air because its buried inside a bucket. Post a pic of the set up and not the plant.

[SSDIPainGuy]

I'll get a pic in here soon, but all of the other plants look great so I never even thought about rh, damn. I did so much to hurt them, waited too long to re-pot, cut roots because of a bad re-potting idea, didn't feed them enough when they were smaller. It sucks being new at something.

[catbuds]

Did you start spray misting to raise humidity & slow transportation yet? that's important.

[Esteban1]

Indeed it sucks. Learning about green is like anything good in life....... gotta acquire the skills slowly. Enjoy the ride, hell, I just finished up dealing with a bunch of caterpillars, bud rot & just about every other obstacle one can come across in one grow. Have a nice day.

[catbuds]

Don't beat yourself up if you loose this one. Sometimes people loose the whole bunch at first. Pics are good, not as good as up close & personal though. I'm on a cell ph, sm screen, super sm pics, not helpful for analyzing anything, so I'll leave the 'looking' to the guys. But black indicates rapid cell death, if you can't save that one, don't sweat it, just see it as a learning experience & walk away with a little more knowledge than what you had when you started. Stay with the forum & read posts till your eyes burn. There's a lot of info here & a bunch of good guys who are ready & willing to answer questions & offer support. Good luck!

PEACE!

[jembre]

if i see the leaf, is phosphorus nutritional deficiencies.

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[SSDIPainGuy]

Yes, I'm misting them and I put a humidifier in the room. Keeping my fingers crossed

[catbuds]

Once the roots establish themselves & growth resumes, they will start to transpire at a normal rate. The more leaf you have, the more transpiration. Once this becomes ballanced, this cycle will raise the humidity. Its easy to end up with too much humidity in a sm enclosed space. While the plants like it, so do plant pathogens, so stay aware of this. It will be a while, so continue to mist for now.

Since I can't really see the pic on this sm screen, lets proceed as if its a phosphorus or magnesium deficiency. Add just a sm pinch bone meal to top of soil. Add 1tablespoon epsom salts to 1gal water & water in. This is good for them, deficiency or not. You can also do this as a bloom boost when your ready to bud. Stay with the forum & keep posting with pics. Like I said, the guys can do the 'looking' since I can't see them. Wish I could see Jembres chart. Cell ph's bumming me out.

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[SSDIPainGuy]

The extra humidity I'm sure is helping, I do realize too much can cause problems though.

[polishpollack]

So is this just perlite grow, like hydro? Switch to potting soil. Are you actually using a fert at all? silica and superthrive are fine to use in real small amounts, but you need to fert too. Chances are good if you just switch to potting soil and not do much else, you'll be okay. You can put in some powder fert which will stabilize the fert use. Mix it in the soil. It looks like you're growing in a real shallow level with no fert. I'd stop the misting because it's not necessary and if there is fert in the mix, this can be a problem because it seems like this kind of plant doesn't respond well to foliar feeding. Grow it more like you would a house plant. The more fancy you get, the more trouble happens.

[catbuds]

Polishpollack, I had him spray misting them untill they regrew roots to replace the ones he cut off because they were transpiring faster than they could take up water, since misting raises humidity which slows down transpiration. As far as houseplants go, unless we're talking cactus, succulent or hairy leafed plants, they all should be spray misted. Plants like higher humidity than you can achieve in your house with causing mildew growth on everything.
---- When plants are grouped together, the transpiration process naturally raises the surrounding humidity. Paintreat, once your plants resume growth, this will indicate they've grown more roots. When that happens, stop spray misting but if they seem to need it, mist occasionally. The humidifier shouldn't be needed at this point. Keep in mind that cutting off roots was drastic, don't do that again. I think you'd be better off growing in a soiless mix, I like 3 pts milled spaghnum to 1 pt perlite with some organics mixed in, but some people omit the organics & rely on applying nutrients. But untill they've put out quite a bit of new growth, I think transplanting now could put them into transplant shock. Post new pics. Some close & some wide shots.
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[SSDIPainGuy]

295249While I do appreciate the input, some replies just had me scratching my head. Here is a summary, it is hempy style, which is a form of hydro, nutes are added about every fourth day, plants feed from the res in between feedings. Everything is ok now, again thank u.

[catbuds]

Hey! They're really looking good now! For ease of use, next grow you might want to consider a soiless potting mix consisting of milled spaghnum moss (fine grade peat moss) & perlite. Theres all kinds of organic nutes available on tthe market.

[catbuds]

I just took another look at your last pic.... YOU TOOK OVER THE BATHTUB!?!? I never would have thought of that! LOL! But hey, great light reflection that you'll be glad you have when your plants are bushy &in flower, & I'm a stickler for sanitation in the grow area, so that's a win win situation! I applaud your imagination!

[SSDIPainGuy]

I needed a place inside where I could keep them. The runoff from the hempy buckets goes right down the drain. Aluminum foil on the window and towels under the door keep out the light and I'm going to install an exhaust fan into the attic. There is also an a/c vent in there to keep them cool. Seemed like a win, win, win lol

[catbuds]

That's just way too cool! Do you have anywhere for an outdoor grow? After seeing the bathtub, I'm thinking the hempy buckets may be worth staying with. Spillage & drainage was a turn off for me with hydro, the BT kills that problem. & it so CLEAN! If you have an area for an outdoor grow, just imagine what your yearly total harvest could be? Food for thought.

[SSDIPainGuy]

My first grow was outdoor, but we rent and in a moment of paranoia I pulled them all. This one was gonna be outside also but wife was nervous, she told me to bring it inside. Was going to put it in the garage until I read that hydro resevior needed to be below 75 so I had to go in the house, that's why I ended up going hempy. As soon as we own a home you bet your ass I'll be growing outside

[polishpollack]

catbuds, okay.

[catbuds]

Polishpollack, I wasn't trying to bust your chops, I just thought maybe you didn't catch the post where he cutoff the bottom roots when he took them out of the cups. That kinda made for unusual circumstances.... Friends?
~~~PEACE!~~~

[catbuds]

My first grow was outdoor, but we rent and in a moment of paranoia I pulled them all. This one was gonna be outside also but wife was nervous, she told me to bring it inside. Was going to put it in the garage until I read that hydro resevior needed to be below 75 so I had to go in the house, that's why I ended up going hempy. As soon as we own a home you bet your ass I'll be growing outside

Hey dude! Since your wife is okay with this, I'm assuming thats not your only bathtub!!!! LOL!

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