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Esteban1
12-09-2011, 04:45 PM
Germination complete, will place them in some of my trusty soil concoction (2 parts Canadian peat, 1 part cow manure, 1 tsp "Plant-Tone", Perlite & some Vermiculite) that worked out pretty well in my last grow. Will place the seedlings in a few small plastic cups & into my trusty closet under some indirect 45W fluorescent lights. More to come.



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Esteban1
12-11-2011, 09:31 PM
2 days post germ. Problem is I grabbed a mixed bag from "Nirvana" but what they failed to tell me was there are no identifiers to indicate the strains! lmao cuz I really do not mind which strain, However, It would be nice to know!

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prettygirlsmokes420
12-11-2011, 09:45 PM
Nice!
I'm sure you will start to notice a deffinate physical differance in The strains once they grow up a lil more. And where do you have your light? You said "indirect" I'm sure you know what your doing, but can I ask why?
Kinda looks like the little buggers are leanin I bit...
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How long did it take for ur seeds to come?

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Esteban1
12-11-2011, 10:29 PM
From what I am reading light is only needed for warmth for the first 7-10 days. They may be leaning but this will be remedied in a few more days when the true leaves appear. I will then expose them to the fluro's!
So here is part of the article.

Your Cannabis Seedling's First Few Weeks


During the first few weeks of their lives, seedlings are a bit delicate and won't be able to withstand full-strength lights or nutrients. They need to have a moist environment, but can easily be drowned. With seedlings, less is more. You want to give them just a bit of plain water at first or feed them with maybe a quarter the amount of nutrients to start.

"If you plan on eventually putting them under some high intensity lights, you will want to start them out with either florescent tubes or some compact florescent bulbs. These lights are extremely cheap, are easy on your electric bill, and can be found at your local hardware store. You will want to keep the florescent lights about 4 inches away from your plants until they've developed their first two sets of leaves, then you can move the lights as close as an inch away as long as the lights aren't too hot. If the light feels too hot to your hand, then it will feel too hot for your marijuana seedling. Make sure to keep a close eye on your seedlings to ensure they don't grow too close to the lights and burn themselves. If new seedlings are showing signs of stress, try moving the lights further away and see if that helps.

Once marijuana seedlings are about fourteen days old, they're ready to be start being treated as if they're in the vegetative stage".


But don't take my word for it for there are many other methods to utilize. Everyone interprets information differently so there you have it.


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prettygirlsmokes420
12-11-2011, 11:57 PM
Within min. Of coming in contact with water, the marijuana seed reacts. Inside the shell, a tiny embrio that has been in a state of suspended animation begins to produce a set of three chemicals that enduce growth: Auxin, Cytokinin, and Gibberellin. Auxin is found in the growing tips of both the roots, and the stem. It directs orderly new growth and develops the shape of the plant by inhibiting growth of the lower branches.
Cytokinins promote lateral growth and cell devision.
Gibberellin directs stem and leaf growth.
Together, these plant chemicals induce germination.
Whithin a short time- typically between one to five days, depending on the temperature and the seeds age, the root tip breaks through the surface of the hard seed shell. the root continues to grow and absorb water, but it still depends on the nutrients packed in the seed with the embrio.
Then from the other end of the soon-to-be stem, a pair of embryonic leaves (Cotyledons) emerge.
Sensing gravity, the plant orients itself so the roots point down and the leaves grow upward. Once the initial shoot emerges from the growing medium, plant growth follows the source of light the Cotyledons unfold, and spread out to face the light, sometimes with pieces of the cracked seed shell still attached to them.
The Cotyledons immediately start producing sugars using the process of photosynthesis.
Which requires light for the Cotyledons to absorb.



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Esteban1
12-12-2011, 12:38 AM
Again:

They are receiving ample amounts of light. Opinions are abundant on the www. I take it all in & process. Have you started a new grow or complete one.... Juicy Pics??



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prettygirlsmokes420
12-12-2011, 01:56 AM
Again:

They are receiving ample amounts of light. Opinions are abundant on the www. I take it all in & process. Have you started a new grow or complete one.... Juicy Pics??



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MR. Estaban, I'm repeating word for word to you what I read in the book. Take it or leave it. As for you questioning my growing... I'm a very sucessful grower.
I just harvested my third crop of 48, and I have a few projects on the side including some recovering seedlings, a flourishing dwc plant. If you would have happened to qander unto my albums, you would know. I'm sorry you were offended, that wasn't my intensions. Was trying to help.



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prettygirlsmokes420
12-12-2011, 02:02 AM
Juicy pics Bro...
And the book I get my FACTS from....

Esteban1
12-12-2011, 02:17 AM
You misunderstood... Just asking about ur grow. Btw.... Very sweet indeed!!


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prettygirlsmokes420
12-12-2011, 02:24 AM
How's your growing? I forgot to ask...

Esteban1
12-12-2011, 02:35 AM
Very well, thanks! The Cotyledons are showing & just waiting for the true leaves to show so I can start with some proper lighting. My last grow was ginormous for my 1st grow. I'm cool til the spring..... at least & by then I should have a nice harvest. It's all good.



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Esteban1
12-12-2011, 03:19 AM
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prettygirlsmokes420
12-12-2011, 03:43 AM
From what?

Esteban1
12-12-2011, 04:13 AM
Hmmmmmm:


Beatles...... Joking....lmao


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Esteban1
12-12-2011, 03:24 PM
Morning Joe



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Esteban1
12-12-2011, 07:22 PM
Was checking out ur grow.... Gotta say, Sweet ride! Hopefully I will be seeing something similar in a few month!? With agriculture it's always a gamble & if something could go wrong it probably will! Just finished a widow harvest that yielded approx. 6 oz & change. Good to go form a couple months. Hopefully until the next crop? We'll see. Hopefully the cannabis gods are beaming down over me?!


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Esteban1
12-15-2011, 03:06 PM
Guys/Gals:

Question:

Since it is what, 8 days post t-plant into soil the kids have shown the 1st set of true leaves & now looking like the 2nd set is coming in. Do ya think that I could expose them to full blast lighting?


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bigsby
12-15-2011, 04:08 PM
Give them time. 3 weeks and then start with the light up high and lower it over the course of 1 - 2 weeks assuming HID lighting.

Esteban1
12-15-2011, 04:13 PM
Big:

Thanks for the quick comeback. Actually fluorescent T12's with some ancillary 45W singles.

Dutch Pimp
12-15-2011, 05:15 PM
Big:

Thanks for the quick comeback. Actually fluorescent T12's with some ancillary 45W singles.

I use to use T12. Two bulbs, (6500k) 4ft. shop lights...:thumbsup:

Works great for 3 weeks vegging..but, a little slower than HO T5's
Best thing about T12's...you can touch the leaves with the bulb...it won't burn...but 2 inches is great a distance for T12's the first 2 weeks.

T12 = 40 watts T8 = 32 watts HO T5 = 54 watt 4 ft - 24 watts 2 ft.

Esteban1
12-15-2011, 05:36 PM
Thanks Dutch:




Kinda what I thought. You tell me? Approx. 3-4" away from 2 dual ballast T12's (4 Total)



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prettygirlsmokes420
12-15-2011, 08:06 PM
Well, un reading this I have a question as well.
I have a seedling that is now got its third set of leaves.
Since it was put into the dirt, it has been under a 250 watt m.h. light that stays about three feet above it. The light Shuts off for six hrs everyday, at which point I move the seedling into my clone box which has 4 t5 flourescent lights that stay about a foot and a half to two feet above my six clones,and my seedling.
My question is, did I mess anything up putting my seedling under that intense light like that? And when can I put it an the 18/6 light schedule with my other plants??
Btw esteban urs are growing nicely!

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MMJ
12-15-2011, 09:16 PM
Actually it looks like they are stretching quite a bit and need light now....personally i put them directly under my t5 full strength as soon as i put them in the soil...basically i let my seed sit in water for a day then i put it in a solo cup with holes in the bottom filled with ffof....i water the shit out of them and then place a sandwich bag over the top and secure it with a rubber band and put them under my light...when they poke out of the soil i take the bag off...that's it...that easy..works almost every time...only time it has not worked for me is with autoflowers and some sativa strains that are sensitive...in this case i soak them then put them in root riot cubes until they sprout and then i transplant them to the cups...long story short..u need to get the light down on them now

Esteban1
12-16-2011, 02:05 AM
Hmmmmmmm:

PrettyGirl; Again, 3 cheers. Don't know anything whatsoever concerning clones but most folks will see ur post & comment!



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Esteban1
12-16-2011, 03:30 AM
Dutch:

Ya think leaving the kids under the 4 fluro's will be sufficient enough for the first couple weeks? Will up the ante when I see that they could handle a bit more. Probably answering my own question but it would be nice to hear confirmation.

Dutch Pimp
12-16-2011, 03:42 AM
If you can get the plants in a row under the tubes?...and keep them within 1-2 inches above the top leaves.
You should be using 6500k tubes. Stretching is a problem this first week.

prettygirlsmokes420
12-16-2011, 05:31 AM
Hmmmmmmm:

PrettyGirl; Again, 3 cheers. Don't know anything whatsoever concerning clones but most folks will see ur post & comment!



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I wasn't asking about the clones, I was asking about the seedling....

Esteban1
12-16-2011, 02:26 PM
Done:

Thanks bro!~

Esteban1
12-21-2011, 04:11 PM
Well, methinks all is going well. We are now 11 days post germ & there are a few nice sized leaves showing. Again just to be clear this is a mixed bag of "feminized" seeds & unable to trace their roots. I continue to follow basic protocol visa vie 24/7 lights on & plants positioned as close to the light source w/o burning the tips as possible. Temp 77F (25c), aqua applied daily & a small amount at that (soil is dry as a bone). Please, any info that may benefit me would be greatly appreciated. Cheers my brothers/sisters in arms!


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the tweakster
12-21-2011, 08:40 PM
Hey there..Newbie here. But not at growing.Im following this one closely! They look great! Keep up the good work

CanGroIt
12-21-2011, 08:52 PM
Don't worry about them stretching a bit.... You can fix that gap when you transplant....

Lights on 24/7 will not make them grow any faster than 18/6.... Dark hours allow them to store much needed energy.... You can try your next grow at 18/6 and see for yourself....

Just my :twocents:.... Have fun Esteban....:thumbsup:....

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Esteban1
12-21-2011, 09:25 PM
CanGrowit;


I recall that being mentioned during my last grow but me hard head is getting in the way! Just as long as I'm on track it's cool..... Correct? Newbie, Thanx. It all werx so...... it's all good!

Thanx Bro!!


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Esteban1
12-22-2011, 02:01 PM
Anyone:

When do you feel is a good time to transplant into a larger container? Say a 3 quart jug or similar?

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Dutch Pimp
12-22-2011, 02:42 PM
When using 18oz cups; I transplant at the end of 3 weeks, into 2 gallon pots..:thumbsup:..(or 3 liter bottles)

Esteban1
12-22-2011, 04:01 PM
Dutch:

3 cheers bro, Will go directly to 2 gallon containers. Just saved me an unnecessary t-plant cuz I was gonna place 'em in 3 liter containers & when big enough in 1.8-2.5L like the last grow. Awesome folks in town. Seriously!!



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Esteban1
12-23-2011, 05:05 AM
Sweet kids there Dutch! Curious as to which week you are into?




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Esteban1
12-23-2011, 04:17 PM
Dutch:

Judging from your comment (& pics) you are like what..... 3 weeks ahead of my grow cycle?


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Dutch Pimp
12-23-2011, 05:39 PM
I use old pics to make my point...but, this is current - week #6

Esteban1
12-24-2011, 01:46 PM
YOUSA....


I'm a believer bro! Un Question........ My last batch has been & is currently in "Ball Containers" but I've noticed that some bud is drying up a tad quick & think they need some re hydration. Help me with this? Btw, Are you using "Tupperware" containers/////// You're the man bro....


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CanGroIt
12-24-2011, 01:56 PM
Remove a fan leaf or two (depending on size), from a live plant, and place it in the jar with the nugs.... The moisture in the leaf should spread to the nugs....

Just keep an eye on it....don't want to lock in too much moisture....

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Esteban1
12-24-2011, 02:28 PM
Awesome, Was gonna put a thin slice of orange peel in there...///??? Hey, cool..... since I'm here 1 more thingy. Was checking out the "Fox Farm" Feed nute schedule & since I have like 5 of their products maybe just adhere to that?

CanGroIt
12-24-2011, 02:34 PM
Awesome, Was gonna put a thin slice of orange peel in there...///??? Hey, cool..... since I'm here 1 more thingy. Was checking out the "Fox Farm" Feed nute schedule & since I have like 5 of their products maybe just adhere to that?

Got a link to that feed schedule??? Sometimes they run the feed schedules a little hot.... Got a ppm meter??? If not, the 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, full strength schedule should do just fine....

Also which bottles you got??? And does your soil already have nutes???

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Esteban1
12-24-2011, 02:37 PM
Kinda like this.... *******However I would deviate & document******


Put my own batch together.... (See my 2nd grow intro.... Sez it all)
No "ppm" meter....
FF Nutes...."Big Bloom", Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, Open Sesame, Beastie Bloom, ChaChing.


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CanGroIt
12-24-2011, 02:51 PM
Just as I thought....that feed chart is way too hot.... 700-840ppms for seedlings/cuttings??? No way....

A ppm meter will make all the difference for you and knowing how strong your nutrient solution is.... When you have some time, read the thread linked in my sig...."PPMS Made Easy to Understand"....

Or you can just do the 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, full strength method.... What you do is look at the recommended amounts and divide by 1/4 for the first three weeks....divide by 1/2 for the next three....divide by 3/4 for the next three....and full strength for one....and flush the final two.... <----but that really isn't the best way to go about it....

But I'd go get a ppm meter so you know what the strength is.... The ppm meter and the fox farm feed schedule can help you dial in your feeding....

Maybe someone using those same products will chime in....


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Esteban1
12-24-2011, 03:29 PM
CanGro:


Thanx Bro! I haven't fed them a thing... everything was incorporated in my mix (2 parts Canadian peat, 1 part cow manure, 1 part Perlite, approx. 1 tbs Plant-Tone, Some added vermiculite for added aeration)





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Esteban1
12-24-2011, 04:00 PM
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Esteban1
12-25-2011, 09:16 PM
Not quite sure but I think 1 plant is into the 4th or maybe even the 5th set of true leaves? Also, what's up with the discoloration (minor at best) on this one?



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Esteban1
12-27-2011, 06:30 PM
Guys:

Know I may have inquired but need to know if nutrients are a must this early in the game or just patience & wait until the 3rd week? Maybe 3-4 sets of leaves in this mixed batch.... Cheers & belated holidays to all


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CanGroIt
12-27-2011, 07:40 PM
Supplementing your soil with nutes isn't necessary this early....especially if your soil already has nutrient content mixed in....

The discoloration is pretty normal....looks like the plant is feeding itself.... You want to start light (1/4 - 1/2 recommended strength) nute feeds once your new growth start looking light lime greenish....as if it might start yellowing....

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Esteban1
12-27-2011, 07:49 PM
CanGro:

Thanx again bro!




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Esteban1
12-28-2011, 02:07 PM
Remember asking what may be added to my drying bud & someone replied a small fresh leaf which was unavailable at the time so I improvised & placed a small piece of organic orange peel to the jars & wow.... Outstanding taste/freshness!



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kayakush
12-28-2011, 02:11 PM
looks good esteban....i think they look legit....hope they flower nice for you....i am experimenting with my real first grow attempt and the sprouts are out..........good luck............smoke em if you got em

Esteban1
12-28-2011, 02:13 PM
Put 'ein some good soil..... Giddyup mate


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Esteban1
12-30-2011, 01:08 PM
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Transplanted into 45.4 L containers y'day. One went into some distress but was able to remedy & bring her back. The kid in the middle toward the back of the jpeg shows the leaves pointing up & haven't a clue as to why but the good thing she is correcting & appears to look more normal. They are all looking spiffy & yes they are all turning that light green colour so getting ready for a first feed later today. More to come








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pushit
12-30-2011, 05:00 PM
Looking good Esteban! Hopefully they turn out great for ya. :thumbsup:

CanGroIt
12-30-2011, 05:08 PM
The kid in the middle toward the back of the jpeg shows the leaves pointing up & haven't a clue as to why but the good thing she is correcting & appears to look more normal.


You want the leaves pointing up like that.... We call them flying V's.... Almost as though the leaves are reaching for the light....soaking it in....

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Ya see how most all leaves are pointing up like at a 45 degree angle....you want that to happen....IMO.... It shows that your plants are happy healthy and loving it....

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CanGroIt
12-30-2011, 05:10 PM
CanGro:

Thanx again bro!

No prob...:thumbsup:....

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Esteban1
12-30-2011, 06:41 PM
Push, CanGro.....


As always, Thanx for the inspiration & Peace in 2012 to y'all as well as the entire Cannabis.com family.



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Esteban1
01-01-2012, 01:04 AM
One girl has a yellowish leaf? If anyone can give me some input it would be quite helpful. Thanx!





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CanGroIt
01-01-2012, 04:56 AM
That yellowing leaf is nothing to be worried about.... It's just the plant supplementing itself.... It's when your new growth is yellow that you know something is wrong....

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Esteban1
01-01-2012, 05:10 AM
Thanx bro, gave them some nutes as per the "FF" schedule. Think that they got over the initial shock of the transplant. Keeping the temps at a steady 75F so I'm happy. Any input would be greatly appreciated.... HNY to all..... PEACE



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Esteban1
01-01-2012, 07:47 PM
Hey 420 fans:

Curious if the transplant stress will impact the color of some of the leaves.... Noticing some browning on 2 of the plants. Will they rebound & if yes will this take like a week to remedy?




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Esteban1
01-02-2012, 12:18 AM
Guys:

Possible to go 18/6 this late in the game w/o detrimental effects?


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Esteban1
01-03-2012, 02:45 PM
Gather my question of browning on a few of the leaves is falling on deaf ears but really interested in Possibly going 18/6 this late in the growth cycle (24 Days)?





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pushit
01-03-2012, 03:50 PM
Gather my question of browning on a few of the leaves is falling on deaf ears but really interested in Possibly going 18/6 this late in the growth cycle (24 Days)?





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What light schedule are you on now?

Esteban1
01-03-2012, 04:24 PM
Push:

Thanx for the super quick response. 24/7



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Esteban1
01-04-2012, 02:17 AM
Guess you guys are busy. Peace



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pushit
01-04-2012, 05:17 AM
Guess you guys are busy. Peace



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Sorry man between work and im getting ready to go back to school tomorrow ive been busy as hell. I havent been in school since i was a kid so this has been a crazy week so far.

As for your question about switching your lighting, i dont see where it would cause any problems as long as its a one time thing. All my clones and seedlings get 24 hrs of light til i decide to go to 18/6 and i havent had any problems with them. I basically do it whenever i want. I believe 16/8 all the way up to 24/7 are veg times so as long as your not switching back and forth you will be good. This is dealing with photoperiod plants not autos.

CanGroIt
01-04-2012, 06:37 AM
Lights on 24/7 will not make them grow any faster than 18/6.... Dark hours allow them to store much needed energy....


I said this two weeks ago....

It was kind of a hint hint.... IMO....you would have been fine running them 18/6 from the beginning....

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CanGroIt
01-04-2012, 06:42 AM
Guys:

Possible to go 18/6 this late in the game w/o detrimental effects?



Had a :jointsmile: moment....

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kayakush
01-04-2012, 01:07 PM
no to hi jack the thread but i got sprouts that are about 2 weeks or more...should i also change to 18/6?? thanks

CanGroIt
01-04-2012, 03:54 PM
no to hi jack the thread but i got sprouts that are about 2 weeks or more...should i also change to 18/6?? thanks

18/6 can be used from the very beginning....before they even sprout.... I used to have my lights on 24/7 in veg too until I realized that it isn't necessary or making them grow any faster....

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Esteban1
01-04-2012, 04:00 PM
The first 2 is the same plant & the healthiest. The 3rd is getting stronger. So does the 1st appear to have 4-5 nodes?




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GanjaRobPDX
01-04-2012, 05:28 PM
Well, un reading this I have a question as well.
I have a seedling that is now got its third set of leaves.
Since it was put into the dirt, it has been under a 250 watt m.h. light that stays about three feet above it. The light Shuts off for six hrs everyday, at which point I move the seedling into my clone box which has 4 t5 flourescent lights that stay about a foot and a half to two feet above my six clones,and my seedling.
My question is, did I mess anything up putting my seedling under that intense light like that? And when can I put it an the 18/6 light schedule with my other plants??
Btw esteban urs are growing nicely!

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The 250W bulb wont harm a thing 3ft away. I used to use a 400W bulb 3ft away before I switched to T-5's. You're all good...
oops just realized I am a little late in getting too your question...
anyway...

Hope this helps...

Esteban1
01-05-2012, 02:10 PM
As per my previous post it appears that the 1st plant is showing 5 nodes, correct........so I may "Top" her?




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Esteban1
01-05-2012, 04:31 PM
I ask again cuz I believe there are 5 + nodes. Just need some reassurance? Including a jpeg so you can have an idea.




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pushit
01-05-2012, 04:53 PM
You can top anytime you want. I think i counted 5 nodes or so. I usually let mine get bigger before i top but its all up to you. Man those are some compact little ones. Did you ever go to 18/6?

Esteban1
01-05-2012, 05:00 PM
Thanx for the quick reply.... Cool. Never transitioned to 18/6. Straight up 24/7. Research suggests this method but again, left to interpretation & what is good for me may not for someone else. Then I will top this one cuz I'm not quite sure of the other 4.


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pushit
01-05-2012, 05:16 PM
Thanx for the quick reply.... Cool. Never transitioned to 18/6. Straight up 24/7. Research suggests this method but again, left to interpretation & what is good for me may not for someone else. Then I will top this one cuz I'm not quite sure of the other 4.


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Thats cool. Just curious to where youve researched that stated 24/7 was the best veg time? Im asking cause im pretty sure that about 95% of everything ive ever read said that the plants do better with some darkness. But im always up for some new reading.

Esteban1
01-06-2012, 10:08 PM
Push;


Sorry for the delay. Again there will be some who subscribe to an 18/6 cycle or possibly the 24/7..... To me its all good. Whatever works for ya! Been reading on this for some time now & its kinda divided 50/50.... But the fact remains, whatever works!




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Esteban1
01-10-2012, 02:28 PM
Guys:


Day 36 (from the beginning of germ) & the kids are getting big. As per the "Fox Farm" feeding schedule it appears I should flip to flower! Ideas/concerns/comments...... Thanks all


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Esteban1
01-10-2012, 05:57 PM
My question is should I flip asap cuz according to the "Fox Farm Soil Feed Schedule" I should possibly flip to 12/12. Attached are a few jpegs. Mucho Gracias 281551 281552





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JeffersonStateGrower
01-10-2012, 07:19 PM
I usually change to my lighting to flower when I have about 1/2 or 1/3 third of space and resources left for the plant to grow, as the plant grows approximately 1/3 larger during the flower period. IMHO if you still have a lot of room for the plant to grow then let them, if you are running out of space or getting close to only 1/3 left for them then flower them.

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Esteban1
01-10-2012, 08:45 PM
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Esteban1
01-11-2012, 02:02 PM
Ok:

Let me re phrase the question. Vertical space is not an issue..... Lateral space is very limited for I'm using a closet? The leaves are frigg'n ginormous & its only been 4 weeks. 281561 281562



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Esteban1
01-11-2012, 03:47 PM
Fellow Practitioners,


Truly not boasting nor comparing dongs, just bring to get a handle on a "good problem". So any help, advice would be greatly appreciated.


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JeffersonStateGrower
01-11-2012, 04:30 PM
Ok, if your plants are growing together and your horizintal space is getting limited then flower those ladies. You can actually flower whenever you like, you just don't want to flower too late as you may run out of resources very quickly. Is it possible you could provide a picture zoomed a little further out so we could get a look at your plants versus the space they have?

JSG.

Esteban1
01-11-2012, 06:34 PM
This is the best I can give ya......


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Esteban1
01-12-2012, 02:12 PM
Hey Guys:


Week 4 (Sprouted 11/10), have plenty of vertical spec remaining & the canopy is dead even @ 24cm or 9.5 inches. Again, its not "vertical" growth that concerns me, Its "lateral" growth!!! From my last post its easy to se that they are getting wide. Push, Hemporer, CanGro, GaGrow, what would you guys do? Don't think I'm educated enough to make this critical decision!




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CanGroIt
01-12-2012, 02:22 PM
It's not that critical....and yes you are educated enough....

We already know that they will double - triple in size once in flower.... Once you feel like they are 1/3 the size you want them to finish....flip them to flower....

We aren't physically there so only you will be able to make the best determination as to when would be good....

Personally....I like my plants to have a total lifetime of 90 days max....30 days veg - 60 days flower....but that's just me....

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Esteban1
01-12-2012, 03:13 PM
CanGro:


Cheers Mate,,,,,, Think I'm trying to get a consensus/approval as to what YOU guys. Looks as though I'm flipping TODAY!




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Esteban1
01-12-2012, 03:50 PM
Will flip Saturday evening which makes this a 35 days veg.


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the tweakster
01-14-2012, 05:15 PM
What lights are you going to use to flower? Your off to a great start there Esteban1 but if I were you id invest in a 400 watt HPS to maximize the buds..Also what Nutes are you feeding?

Esteban1
01-15-2012, 05:36 PM
Tweakster, thanks for the input.


Completed a 33 day Veg using an unkown strain of feminized females. Basic soil needs = 2 parts Canadian Peat, 1 part cow manure, Perlite, vermiculite, 1 tsp added tomato nutrient......After germination placed them in dixie cup like plastic containers (small hole in the bottom), placed all under floros....when strong enough started them on a stringent nute schedule using "Fox Farm" (Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom along with their "Micro Nutrient" line of Solubles, i.e. Open Sesame, & waiting for the correct time to use the Beastie Bloom & Cha Ching. Well over 12"'s tall & really can only guess as to their circumference? The leaves are ginormous as well as the overall health. Hoping all will flower..... Only topped one (The closest to the camera). Concerns..... Push, CanGro..... please give me a hand.... (really could use the what.... 30 years plus combined gro experience). Peace Bro's



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pushit
01-15-2012, 06:08 PM
The only way we have 30 years combined experience is if CanGro has 28 and a half haha. Your plants look nice and healthy to me. Just keep doing what you are doing. I would suggest that since you are growing mixed fem seeds, you should try cloning before you flower. You never know what kind of great smoke you might come across and want more. Thats just something you might want to think about.

Esteban1
01-15-2012, 06:14 PM
Ok ;



Are there any "Cloning for Dummies" websites that you may suggest?



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pushit
01-15-2012, 06:31 PM
Here's a decent thread. http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/142258-clone-log-cloning-pics-using-master-kush-mom.html
Its actually pretty simple.

Esteban1
01-16-2012, 06:58 PM
Way too complicated for my neolithic brain.


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CanGroIt
01-16-2012, 07:23 PM
As pushit said....they look good to me too.... What advice/help are you seeking???

This March will be 7yrs for me.... The best thing that I believe you can do for yourself is to learn how to SCROG (screen of green).... SCROG is by far the best way to get the most from a small number of plants.... A little longer veg time but really is worth the wait and effort....

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Esteban1
01-17-2012, 02:51 PM
"SCROG" eh? Will research this & get back to you. Not truly looking for advice at this point..... Confirmation is really the point of most of my posts. Again, I needed the reassurance or schooling if you will to get my feet wet!
Thanks for the heads up. This spring competes my 1st year practicing the art of "self reliance"..... Growing my vegetables, herbs edible & (420) as well as collecting rain water, trying to become one with my environment. My body feels so much better not taking synthetic prescription drugs!!! You guys rule..... One day..... Soon enough, it will come back to you. Karma shit.


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Esteban1
01-17-2012, 04:14 PM
Clarification......

********************I AM NOT FEELING THAT CONFIDENT as what I meant was that I'm a quick learner & can fly by me bootstraps so to speak. Advice, Comments, Clarification IS ALWAYS WELCOME & if I could possibly help someone out I can do this as well***************


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the tweakster
01-18-2012, 08:43 PM
Esteban you never did answer the question I asked..What light are you going to use to flower them out? Im interested in knowing. I have never seen a "successful" grow flowering with fluorescent lighting..Im really not trying to be a know it all or a pain in the ass. Im trying to help you get some dense nugs for smoking. They will butd out but they will be light and ariy, so to speak under flouros.. Again just my opinion..

Esteban1
01-19-2012, 02:41 PM
Tweakster:

Sure..... Disclosure is all good!! Using 4 40W "GE" Ecolux & 3 supplemental 45W screw in's. Please by all means give me some pointers bro!!


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Esteban1
01-20-2012, 03:15 PM
Methinks All Female.....



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Esteban1
01-20-2012, 03:34 PM
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the tweakster
01-20-2012, 09:46 PM
Plants look good..To early to tell on sex yet. Well from the pics you posted anyway. I'm no expert on growing I only know what worked for me over the many years. Using flouros may actually work..Ill be following your grow closely..By the sound of it thou your running about the same amount of hydro if you ran a 400 watt HPS light and ballast. How many lumins are the lights outputting all together?

Esteban1
01-21-2012, 04:24 PM
Do not know the exact lumen amt but will say this..... exceeding the USDA daily recommended allowance necessary for abundant growth. Week 2 starting today & still a tad difficult to sex. Smells great & think I'm on track for a good grow. Between the genetics & the nutes I'm hoping for a nice yield. Can actually envision some fat azz colitas.


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Esteban1
01-26-2012, 02:33 AM
1.5 weeks into flower...... Tell me?




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bigsby
01-28-2012, 02:15 PM
Looking pretty female to me.

the tweakster
01-30-2012, 01:41 AM
lookin real good!

Esteban1
01-31-2012, 04:59 AM
Thanks guys......


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Esteban1
02-01-2012, 04:29 PM
Update:


Like 3 weeks + & the growth was kinda bushy so I was compelled to do some twisting to open up the canopy. All in all they all appear cool. One more thing.... notice some "wind burn"....(drying of some leaves closest to the fan). Just rearranged them a bit. Hopefully this remedies the problem? Suggestions? bottomed out on me last batch & had to make a long, long long distance run to my pals co-op in the Pacific NW. "Durban"?? Never heard of it since I'm new to the scene but geezus... rocket fuel. Peace




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Esteban1
02-01-2012, 05:06 PM
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Esteban1
02-15-2012, 12:43 PM
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illwhttail
10-26-2013, 02:53 PM
I wish this would of finished. I was enjoying.