Grow Closet Help

[pushit]

Bro:

Awesome... Just eyed the same 1 for 17.00$.... Think I'm gonna grab the "Fox Farm" FX14050 Big Bloom, Grow Big & Tiger Bloom Liquid Fertilizer Nutrient Trio Hydro-Formula, 3/32-Ounce Bottles. Total for the items 61.60...Free Ship. Ya think that I should cave & stop guessing about my soil. This will be an on going dillyo so give me the ok & i'll go for it. Ahhhh,,, 1 more thingy. Your were talking about a "MH" light... correct.... which one did you recommend? Don't wanna search through all of the threads. Thanks bro!

I think the FF trio is great. Are you gonna go hydro next grow? If thats a misprint i would get the FF SOIL nutes if youre planning on staying in dirt.

As for lights you pretty much get what you pay for. Im using elcheapos from HTGSupply. They are real cheap magnetic ballasts and i havent had any problems with them so far. They have alot of mh/hps combos for under 200 bucks. I get my FF nutes, grow bags, and pretty much everything except soil from them. Check them out and ebay.

BTW if you get a hps or mh be sure to order an extra bulb. :thumbsup:

[Esteban1]

K:

Found them.... So you know the size of my closet. Will the 400W MH or HPS do the trick? Hear good things about both systems. Also, the FF nutes are apparently tried & tested & yea... Soil... You mean
"Grow Big" correct?

[pushit]

K:

Found them.... So you know the size of my closet. Will the 400W MH or HPS do the trick? Hear good things about both systems. Also, the FF nutes are apparently tried & tested & yea... Soil... You mean
"Grow Big" correct?

400 mh for veg and hps for flower. Two different bulbs. If you can only afford one id go with the hps. Hps is not the best color spectrum for veg but itll work good. It will work great for that area but you have to keep in mind that they put out alot of heat so youre gonna have to figure out a way to keep the temps under control. Whether it be to run ducting and an inline fan or something to that nature. HPS runs cooler temps vs MH but they both still generate alot of heat. Alot of things to consider when upgrading.

As for the nutes make sure they are for soil. You dont want hydro nutes. It will say on the bottle if its for soil or hydro.

[SmokeMyPiece]

Grow cheap, get cheap bud. Get a PH meter man, its the only instrument I use, plus you can use it in hydro if you ever chose to :thumbsup:
-I like the red Hannah meter.

Yes, Make sure to get 'soil' specific nutes.


your doing 4 ww so its 100w per plant so i think 400w should be ok but for hps get bigger grow room mate
--Not even close.

MH is for veg. but your using CFLs. Just worry about HPS.

FF Trio = Grow big, Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom

-Yes you will need to look into ventilation and fans with an HPS.



-You want 3000 lumens per sqft in veg / 5000 lumens per sqft in flower.
--So your closet is 6 sqft = 30,000 lumens
You'd be good with a 250w Hps = 29,000 Lumens

Just know, Once you make these steps, YOU WILL BE HOOKED haha

[Esteban1]

bloody hell;

A ton to consider. Need to sleep on it. Thanx gents

[Esteban1]

Hey guys:

Couldn't post in the last few days. Issues with the forum!!! Problems uploaded pics today as well. Who knows. I did in fact order the "Fox Farm" Trio.... plus the "PH" Meter.... Should arrive by Friday. In the meantime my babies appear pretty healthy after the flush.... Been EXTREMELY cautious & only fed once since the burn. Any expertise to shell out.

Cheers

[whitetop]

You'd be good with a 250w Hps = 29,000 Lumens

Just know, Once you make these steps, YOU WILL BE HOOKED haha


im sure even with a cfl or even hps or mf you still need 100w per plant you can do it but will not get much bud looking in the grow diary and other sites they are small i was told on thc chatroom if you want them good and not crap buds go higher like 400w-600w even with just 4 plants.

[Esteban1]

Bro:


I have some new pics & they are probably 50% bushier!! Gonna wait for Smoke/Pushit to give me a heads up. No disrespect but judging from some recent advice I will remain cautious. I would post the pics but there is a problem with the server & it will not allow me to post my jpeg's!! Btw... like 7 nodes....

Cheers

[Esteban1]

Bro:

Up to like 6-7 nodes. They got REAL BUSHY since my last post. Unfortunately the site was acting bizzaro for a few days & wouldn't allow me access to the site? So. since my last post the babies are young adults & up to like 6-7 nodes. Again this frigg'n site will not allow me to post pics soooooo... Will try to post later today so maybe you will have an idea as to where I stand. One more thingy.... ordered the Fox Farm trio pack & "PH" tester that you recommended . Should receive by Friday/Sat. so at least I'm using tried/true nutes

[whitetop]

if you look in the lighting section it will still tell you every grow site will say this take advice or not dont bother me just stating what has been said for many years by every grower new or old.

try uploading the picture to a image hoster as this site will not be fixed for a few more weeks due to bad coding.

im just looking in anyway hope your buds will grow right

[Esteban1]

appreciated

[Esteban1]

Guys:

The pic server is down.... matter of fact the whole sys is in bad shape so I just used
"Dropbox to export. So tell me if they appear ok? Thanx again. Oh, btw.... My pepper crop was frigg'n ENORMOUS... I'm thinking about concocting a hot sauce. This is just 1 bag...Have like 2 more bags!! Had to give a bunch away to the neighbors. If they only knew. lmao



file:///Users/stevencheckman%201/Dropbox/Public/New%20Folder/DSC_0412.jpg
file:///Users/stevencheckman%201/Dropbox/Public/New%20Folder/DSC_0413.jpg
file:///Users/stevencheckman%201/Dropbox/Public/New%20Folder/DSC_0414.jpg
file:///Users/stevencheckman%201/Dropbox/Public/New%20Folder/DSC_0415.JPG

[pushit]

Guys:

The pic server is down.... matter of fact the whole sys is in bad shape so I just used
"Dropbox to export. So tell me if they appear ok? Thanx again. Oh, btw.... My pepper crop was frigg'n ENORMOUS... I'm thinking about concocting a hot sauce. This is just 1 bag...Have like 2 more bags!! Had to give a bunch away to the neighbors. If they only knew. lmao



file:///Users/stevencheckman 1/Dropbox/Public/New Folder/DSC_0412.jpg
file:///Users/stevencheckman 1/Dropbox/Public/New Folder/DSC_0413.jpg
file:///Users/stevencheckman 1/Dropbox/Public/New Folder/DSC_0414.jpg
file:///Users/stevencheckman 1/Dropbox/Public/New Folder/DSC_0415.JPG

Still no pics. You might want to delete that I believe your name is showing up

[Esteban1]

Reside outside of the US!

[Esteban1]

Are you saying that the pics are not viewable?

[pushit]

Reside outside of the US!

Just looking out man

[Esteban1]

Thanks all the same...

Fyi.... Checked on them and they have 7-8 nodes depending on the plant. The damage.... "burn" is fading & looking good. Shame u can't have a gander!

[SmokeMyPiece]

Boards are down again...

Great to hear they're better Este!

-ONCE AGAIN, DONT LISTEN TO whitetop

[Esteban1]

Truly:

Why is HE trying to sabotage my grow?

[Esteban1]

Bro:

I see that a name appears but again I'm outside of the states but with that said is there any way to delete this..... I looked but find it kinda impossible?

[SmokeMyPiece]

Truly:

Why is HE trying to sabotage my grow?
Because of posts like these:

im sure even with a cfl or even hps or mf you still need 100w per plant you can do it but will not get much bud looking in the grow diary and other sites they are small i was told on thc chatroom if you want them good and not crap buds go higher like 400w-600w even with just 4 plants.

-BTW, this site goes down all the time.. They've even lost a good 6month-1year of threads and posts not too long ago.. Site kinda sucks. Thats why im not around much, there aremuch better ones

[Esteban1]

Care to share these thoughts... as in "better ones" cuz I need the support! Btw... Think whitetop is just kinda young in years... 1 day.... maybe 1 day. Appears to have good intentions but you know what they say about "good intentions"

Thanks

[SmokeMyPiece]

You'd love hxxp://www.marijuanapassion.com
-Tons of Advanced/Experienced growers, who actually give correct advice
--beware tho, ppl like whitetop(ppl who dont know what they're talkin bout) will get called out way worse than what I did :thumbsup:

[Esteban1]

K:

Gonna ask u again & I know that I'm being a tad redundant but with all of the info/disinformation please tell me that I can feed today. There are approx. 7-9 nodes depending on which plant! They were given H20 y'day & fed 1/4 strength maybe 2.5 days prior & took to the feed very well! Again I know that you went over all of this & I sound frigg'n ridiculous BUT please tell me (sans pics) that I can feed today? Thanx. Btw... They are kinda dry!

[Esteban1]

Actually found your post concerning the feed schedule. Did feed 'em but kinda light. Didn't want to make the same mistake. Just waiting on the "FF" so I can feed properly & get halfway decent results.

[Esteban1]

All is Good

[SmokeMyPiece]

Transplanted the better lookin plant. Hows your girls doin?
[attachment=o278319]

--also, I found whitetop on his 'grail' thc website... lol, He asked the exact same questions he did here.. with the same answers.
what True Grower would seriously ask if the little CFLs need a ballast..
Here's his quote from a few days ago tryn to help a hydro grower........

... it may work but if you took the plant out of the water hor few hours and let the roots dry and get some air will that get the plant going again as its dyeing but not dead?
Woooow:mad:

[Esteban1]

Oh well;

Fyi.... Contacted the moderator cuz his comments were a bit inappropriate. Feel for him. Think he's lost his way? Bro.... again, the babies are no longer that. remember I lifted the lights like 1.5 feet? Well, they have reached 'em! Wish I could shoot some jpeg's but this site is a bit slow to fix problems!

[Esteban1]

Saw the pic... SWEET... My kids are the same height! How didya pull up the jpeg?

[SmokeMyPiece]

Saw the pic... SWEET... My kids are the same height! How didya pull up the jpeg?
hah, it worked?
-Same way. go advanced. paperclip. add files. insert in line.
--Doesnt show up in preview, all i get is the link.

Good to hear about your girls :thumbsup:
-When you gonna top? still goin for a long veg huh?

[pushit]

Just noticed the pics are back up on this site so you should be able to post them like you normally would.

[Esteban1]

hah, it worked?
-Same way. go advanced. paperclip. add files. insert in line.
--Doesnt show up in preview, all i get is the link.

Good to hear about your girls :thumbsup:
-When you gonna top? still goin for a long veg huh?

The pic thingy works.... Try it like Smoke suggests because had issues trying the normal way! To answer your question I will top. Just waiting for another node? Judging by the pics I'll leave it in
YOUR hands...<Smoke/Push.>

[SmokeMyPiece]

Wow they look great! Maybe I should add another CFL to my veg room..
-btw Push>Me , Push you grow some fat plants man.

You could top now, or wait another node, up to you. 'I' would wait one more.

[pushit]

The pic thingy works.... Try it like Smoke suggests because had issues trying the normal way! To answer your question I will top. Just waiting for another node? Judging by the pics I'll leave it in
YOUR hands...<Smoke/Push.>

I just added a pic the normal way on mine and it works. Just shows up as attachments like the last ones you added.

Your plants are looking good these days:thumbsup:

You can top anytime after the third node. Your plants are at the size now that you can top whenever you like. Its all up to you.

[Esteban1]

Guys

It seems to be an even split referring to the topping & possibly in a few? Yea boy..... These babies are now adults & still using spidy senses to judge their feedings. Can't wait for my shipment to arrive carrying the beloved "FF" nectar & the PH thingy. Yousa.... feeling like a million $$ & can actually visualize a "happy ending" & I do mean HAPPY on both fronts. So,,,,,, Will top later today. Yea.... I'm frigg'n wacko & went from "topping" soon to today...... Now that's ooym madness......lmao. Push.... Have I seen your latest grow?
;:thumbsup:

[pushit]

Wow they look great! Maybe I should add another CFL to my veg room..
-btw Push>Me , Push you grow some fat plants man.

You could top now, or wait another node, up to you. 'I' would wait one more.

My bad man i think we posted at the same time. Thanks for the props man

[Esteban1]

New pics. The last set of pics were from 2 day ago. Latest....

[Esteban1]

Wasn't sure the last pic post went through so I'm being redundant.[attachment=o278328][attachment=o278329][attachment=o278330][attachment=o278331]

[Esteban1]

Curious:

Is it cool to do an "AIM" chat or IM capabilities on this site? Reason I ask is simple. Sometimes one cannot wait for a response if there is a crisis. So I guess it would be like a mobile e.r....... Kinda like a M.A,S.H. unit on the web! Betcha we can make a small $$ in this type of gig or am I just too out there cuz this has been/is being done!

[Esteban1]

Topped 3 of the 4....

[Esteban1]

Guys:

The "FF" arrived....along with the PH tester. took a quick read, 6.5-6.6. Also gave a quick feed of 3 Teaspoons/Gallon as recommended. Would these be accurate #'s all around?

[pushit]

Guys:

The "FF" arrived....along with the PH tester. took a quick read, 6.5-6.6. Also gave a quick feed of 3 Teaspoons/Gallon as recommended. Would these be accurate #'s all around?

The main thing is to make sure you add the nutes then ph cause nutes can raise or lower the ph of your water. Just start off will small doses then work your way up to full strength if everything keeps looking good.

[Esteban1]

K:

Just re tested PH.... 6.6-6.7 max. Nute wise... What is the hottest feed given my environment?

[SmokeMyPiece]

Go easy with the FF at first. Your ph is fine.
Feed by this:
hxxp://foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf (http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf)

[Esteban1]

Hmmm:

Tons of ??'s. Appears that I will be using all 3 when I flower. also looks as though they are using an 18/12 schedule (Me....24 to 12) but I assume I'm on track using this as a guide. One more technical ?.... When will I know that they are in fact all girls? You're a good man bro!

[SmokeMyPiece]

Hmmm:

Tons of ??'s. Appears that I will be using all 3 when I flower. also looks as though they are using an 18/12 schedule (Me....24 to 12) but I assume I'm on track using this as a guide. One more technical ?.... When will I know that they are in fact all girls? You're a good man bro!
My bad, forgot to say to just follow for the flowering part. You're doin great in veg already.
-Sometimes they will show in veg, ofc depends on each plant. Ive only come across a few that have done so.
Within the first 2 weeks of 12/12, they should be showing.

[Esteban1]

judging from the pics, how many more weeks do you think I should stay in veg (considering my experience)
To harvest a decent crop? Also.... Contemplating the transplant. Remeber you saying that I could veg out entirely using the 1 gallon containers. I also said that I could use the 5 gallon buckets (will steam'm clean). Is this a traumatic event? Any other tidbits of experience gratefully accepted. Pics later tonight.

Cheers Bro:wtf:

[SmokeMyPiece]

I would wait a few days-week after the tops to recover.
Then transplant to 5Gal.
Then take the next few weeks to get all your tops to an even canopy: lst/pinch/twist/supercrop to keep the stretchers at bay.
Then flip.

[Esteban1]

Bro:

No disrespect......I'm an old school hipster but no comprende. Please translate. "lst/pinch/twist/supercrop"... to keep the stretchers at bay.
Then flip. Thanx..

[SmokeMyPiece]

Even though you topped, some branches will grow taller than others. You wanna try to get all the branch tops even with each other.
This way youll get even light coverage when you start to flower, and the tops will stretch around the same heights.
-lst is just tieing branches down.
-pinching is just that: pinch the taller ones a few nodes down, and theyll slow em up a little.
-twisting is actually twisting a mid part of the taller branches also to slow em down.
-these are a few supercropping techniques

[Esteban1]

Gonna need to research this cuz I don't have a clue. What I mean to say is I looked into "Topping" & "Evening Out" it's no big. "Tying Down Branches"...???? "Pinching" I think I can grasp...."Twisting"....This stuff is kinda advanced for me. Hey... I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU & Pushit have done thus far!!!!

[SmokeMyPiece]

Gonna need to research this cuz I don't have a clue. What I mean to say is I looked into "Topping" & "Evening Out" it's no big. "Tying Down Branches"...???? "Pinching" I think I can grasp...."Twisting"....This stuff is kinda advanced for me. Hey... I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU & Pushit have done thus far!!!!
Just try to get em evened out. dont need to get advanced right now

[Esteban1]

K:

I researched some ideas on how to "even out" & it was a relatively painless event. Improvised using some twist ties & opened up the bottom portion of the canopy. Just waiting for the areas that didn't get all of the light to start bushing up. Following your advice pretty much to the word. Thanx again![attachment=o278363][attachment=o278364]

[Esteban1]

A word:

Judging from the newest pics (Post tie down) Do you think that I could pinch off some of the branches to "even out the canopy". I'm a little hesitant in doing this cuz I think the branches may snap. I viewed a bunch of vids on Youtube & they make it look like childs play!!

[SmokeMyPiece]

Up to you. Maybe try it out on just one

[Esteban1]

That's a big azz 1.... Like a main branch! That's all I could pinch off... correct? Could you shoot over some pics on your trees. If you could take a close shot where you pinched it off. If not I understand. All of my "colas"... (& I use this term cautiously because I'm not even sure they are) are looking good? It's kind of a statement/question rolled up into one. Are they in fact "colas"? Btw, I dig this online holiday chatter...

[SmokeMyPiece]

-Did you pinch or pinch it off, kinda confused.

All the branches are going to be your colas. just do some easy tieing to get the branch-tops even and parallel with the floor. (or as close as possible before flip)
-From the pic, they are still close to the main stem.

Ill try to get a pic later. Mines stretched a little bit more, maybe halfway to catchin the top.

[Esteban1]

I didn't pinch anything off to date. Just tied down a lot of the colas. Gonna send some better shots as well so you can see what I'm trying to convey. Again, new to the scene but am a quick learner.

[Esteban1]

So have a peek & let me know

[attachment=o278377][attachment=o278378][attachment=o278379][attachment=o278380][attachment=o278381]

[SmokeMyPiece]

looks good. Dont worry about gettin every branch to the top, you're gonna cut the ones that dont make it.

[SmokeMyPiece]

Got some pics
[attachment=o278387] - [attachment=o278388]

[Esteban1]

Sweet:

Nice bro. Appears to be right on track. It appears that you sliced off the top.....am I correct with this assumption?

[SmokeMyPiece]

Ya, been topped. She needs to go in flowering soon.

[Esteban1]

So;

Just had a peek @ the kids & they're growing like a weed. Outta control growth with the FF nutes bro. Had to tie down a few more stems. How much longer can this go on? Just pinched 2...

[SmokeMyPiece]

So;

Just had a peek @ the kids & they're growing like a weed. Outta control growth with the FF nutes bro. Had to tie down a few more stems. How much longer can this go on? Just pinched 2...
Ye, cant go wrong with FF.
-Can go as long as you want. Just make sure you got the light power to penetrate the canopy.

[Esteban1]

Whitetop::

How are your ladies?

[Esteban1]

Pinched off a 3rd one. Hope that I didn't pinch too much. Will know later in the day. Pics coming as well. Again guys... couldn't have gotten this far w/o ur help!

[Esteban1]

Noticed 1 of the plants top has started to regen278420278419278421

[pushit]

Noticed 1 of the plants top has started to regen278420278419278421

Looking good:thumbsup:

Is that roots i see coming out the drainholes? If so you might want to think about transplanting soon.

[Esteban1]

Thanks bro

No roots protruding but thinking bout t-planting soon. Btw... Couldn't have done it w/o all of you guys reaching out so again.... A big shout out

[SmokeMyPiece]

Nice knuckle! Was wonderin what you were gonna do with the one you didn't top.

pinched about 7. All that had reached the top.
[attachment=o278442] /// [attachment=o278441]

[Esteban1]

Sweet:

I actually did top all 4.... Also did some gardening this a.m. trying to even out the canopies. The 1 that was pinched is kinda 50/50 for now. The remaining 3 are looking SWEET with a Bunch more colas coming up. Tellin'ya.... "FF" is AWESOME & TRULY DO NOT KNOW WHY I WAITED. IT'S NIGHT & DAY.... LITERALLY!!

[Esteban1]

You said that u were gonna flip'm soon right. 5 gallon containers? Oh... There are a bunch of little white hairs on 2. Very cool look. Will the entire bud section turn a white hue?

[SmokeMyPiece]

You said that u were gonna flip'm soon right. 5 gallon containers? Oh... There are a bunch of little white hairs on 2. Very cool look. Will the entire bud section turn a white hue?
Ya, but in 3.5 gallon.
Nice, you got pre-flowers. That my friend is the sign of a female :thumbsup:
-What makes those 'white' WW is the large concentration of trich's on the buds. Never know till you grow em out n see what pheno you got.

[Esteban1]

SWEET

Now that's what I'm talking about! Will shoot you some shots of the "Pre-flowers morrow.

[Esteban1]

So you say that these are female..... Hopefully looking forward to a nice October??


[attachment=o278468][attachment=o278469][attachment=o278470][attachment=o278471]

[Esteban1]

[attachment=o278472][attachment=o278473][attachment=o278474][attachment=o278475][attachment=o278476]

[Esteban1]

[attachment=o278477][attachment=o278478][attachment=o278479][attachment=o278480][attachment=o278481]

[SmokeMyPiece]

Whoa, some of those look to be in full flower.. you're lights are above 12/12 still huh?

[Esteban1]

No bro:

24/7.... Something seem a tad off to you? PLEASE tell me I didn't fck up!! I've been going a tad up & down with the lumens depending on the heat but always on

[Esteban1]

guaranteed I screwed up....Y/N?

[Esteban1]

Should I just switch to 12/12?

[SmokeMyPiece]

Na you're good. Just a lotta pre flowers. Only flip once you've transplanted and done with the stressing.
-Even if they were somehow autos, they grow best in 24/7, so if they start gettin to be bigger buds then its an auto.

[Esteban1]

Bro:

When should I flip? Scared me there for a sec. Did I stress them with different light strength?

[SmokeMyPiece]

Bro:

When should I flip? Scared me there for a sec. Did I stress them with different light strength?
Na, no harm. Just keep it steady in flower.
Even the tops, transplant, flip. You wanted bushes, these gonna be pretty big

[Esteban1]

Been reading up on the auto flower thingy. I grabbed "feminised"... Are the 2 synonymous? Also... Should I switch pots now? Shit... Wanted to go green for a few more weeks! Again been reading & finding that I am on track... (If my batch is Auto flower) even at 35-40 day range!!

[pushit]

Been reading up on the auto flower thingy. I grabbed "feminised"... Are the 2 synonymous? Also... Should I switch pots now? Shit... Wanted to go green for a few more weeks! Again been reading & finding that I am on track... (If my batch is Auto flower) even at 35-40 day range!!

When you ordered your seeds it wouldve said if they are photoperiod or autos. If you remember who you ordered from you can go to their site and see. If you are running lights 24/7 you can still veg as long as you want. Transplant and flip to 12/12 when you want to. Just remember they will double sometimes triple in size in flower so make sure you have enough light and space.

[Esteban1]

Thanx bro!

[Esteban1]

Taking into consideration these are supposed to be green for approx. +/- 50 days or so & judging their growth, when do you feel the optimum time to go 12/12 would be?

[SmokeMyPiece]

Bro, how many times you gonna ask LOL.

Really, you should have flowered when I first said to, around the fifth node..
-Granted, mine is more sativa leaning, but if you look at the girl I got flowering, She was flipped around the sixth node. Way later than I like, and she became huge.
Its Your first grow and you're using CFLs, and 4 plants = flower early.

Who said they're supposed to be around 50 days veg? (is this what you meant by green?)
You can 12/12 right from seed if you wanted.

However, given the circumstances: the long veg + topping;
-You want to get the tops of all branches to be level (or close to) one another. Then flip. This will have the tops stretching evenly, keeping an evenly flat canopy.
If you flowered now, you would end up with 2-4 main colas with little satellite buds on the branches that didnt get to reach the canopy.

But if you wanted to flower winthin a few days;
-Cut all branches that didnt make the canopy and go 12/12.

[Esteban1]

Lmao

"mustn't smoke und think".... Sorry my friend. I'm so frigg'n out there that the oxygen level is a tad low in my part of the world. Also my mind is all over the place since I'm outta work for a bit (bum leg) so I need to apologize for my behavior! Gonna listen to your advise & start asap. The canopy is pretty much level but will re check again......All of their branches are very close to even except for maybe 1. Will shoot off a pic with all 4. Guys.... Again , really sorry for the redundant questions that are kinda statements but a tad distorted. Way too much Garcia when I was a lad. About the 50 days "Green"... Just some research into different scenarios. Again nothing set in stone. Gonna need to transplant into the 5 gallon buckets as well. I do hear EVERYTHING that you guys say. It just kinda moves around in me head & need to process it by actually completing the tasks. So.... It's all good.

[SmokeMyPiece]

Outgrew the box, had to go 12/12. All shorties got cut/cloned.

[Esteban1]

Nice:

I can almost envision flipping to flower but you need to understand that this is new to me & being a newbee its difficult to imagine how big these kids will get! Looks as though your kids have gotten much bigger "fuller" since ur last post!! Kick but bro. Fyi... Methinks a 5 gallon container will be much too big... gonna go with a 3. Looks as though you are doing a hydro thingy with the clones as well?

[SmokeMyPiece]

3's fine.
-Tryn bubbler and soil, seein which roots faster.

Ya, you're gonna be all over em when you flip, seein the way you act in veg :thumbsup:

[Esteban1]

Want to flip tonight:

So, question is do I feed them the "Big Bloom" & "Extra Strength" in tandem or just the 1....?? Thanx

[Esteban1]

1 more small thingy:

I recall someone mentioning "change the cfl to "cool white" when flowering as well....Correct? Thanks again & hopefully one day we may share the bounty

[SmokeMyPiece]

Want to flip tonight:

So, question is do I feed them the "Big Bloom" & "Extra Strength" in tandem or just the 1....?? Thanx
Ok, these first two weeks of flower are still using N mainly. And your plants look plenty dark from the pics on the 9th.
-So 'I' would just feed by eye. If you see them go lighter green within those 2weeks, give em a shot of the grow big. Otherwise, just water.
--Now, once they slow up on vert growth and starts noticeably buddin again, hit em with 1/2str Tiger & Big bloom. Dont use the grow big anymore in flower.

1 more small thingy:

I recall someone mentioning "change the cfl to "cool white" when flowering as well....Correct? Thanks again & hopefully one day we may share the bounty
Ya, warm(2300K) for flowering.

[Esteban1]

K:

Lights out.... Hopefully all will be well!?

[Esteban1]

Have a few 3000K Soft Whites...... Sufficient?

[SmokeMyPiece]

Sorry, I over-looked the room msrmnts.

Dont do RH so I cant give advice there.
OK, what are the lumens of the CFLs?
-Are you gonna do CFL thru flowering?
-You want 3000 lumens per sqft in veg / 5000 lumens per sqft in flower.
--So your closet is 6 sqft = 30,000 lumens
Post #9 lol
-Only go by Lumens and Kelvin(K)

[Esteban1]

Bro:

Saw it & configured before your post...lol.... btw, my cat benefits from maryjane as well cuz he's old & sick like me.
gives him an appetite. Hopefully I'll get a halfway decent yield so..... Gotta give you guys props for putting up with me. Thanx again!

[Esteban1]

[attachment=o278516]

My buddy "Pokey" benefits enormously from mj & 2 weeks of vitamin c therapy.... List goes on & on. He was gravely sick approx. 10 month's prior.... took him to the vet where they had no frigg'n idea as to the etiology of the illness. They told me to take him home to die & that was 1100$ after all of the blood work & extensive tests! Well today he's healthy as a horse & enjoying life. That's me buddy!

[Esteban1]

Questipon:

Had a power outage 1 hour before lights out.... How may I remedy this.... If it can be.... Supposed to be 7p-7a..... Fk'n issues 1 hour before.... Now what?

[pushit]

Just stay on your normal schedule. One hour isnt gonna make or break you.

[Esteban1]

Thanx bro:

Was scared shitless!!! So... tomorrow.... Light will go on @ 7a... off @ 7pm.... All good...?

[Esteban1]

Guys:

2 of the girls appear to be flowering up & the other 2 are green. Is this a slow process. But the canopy is getting ginormous ?? Btw... Push, checked out you grow log. Ur Dr. Scientific!

[SmokeMyPiece]

I left the lights 24/0 in flower, twice this grow lol.

-Your plants may flower at different times, its normal.
-Yes, almost all MJ will double-tripple in size when flipped. Try to keep the canopy level during these two weeks, and cut the ones that dont make it.

[Esteban1]

Cut from the top or bottom?
So you left the sun on 24/7..... They were "auto flowering" correct?

Thanx again...... :thumbsup:

[Esteban1]

[attachment=o278529][attachment=o278530][attachment=o278531][attachment=o278532][attachment=o278533]

Tried to give you guys some decent pics.


:rasta:

[Esteban1]

[attachment=o278534]

Some of the leaves are a tad wilted but this was pre "FF" .....

[SmokeMyPiece]

Cut from the top or bottom?
So you left the sun on 24/7..... They were "auto flowering" correct?

Thanx again...... :thumbsup:
Bottom.. If they were at the top, wouldnt they have already made the canopy? LOL
-Na the girl in my sig. I messed up my timer twice, and she got 24 hrs of light instead of 12/12, so you're fine with 1hour of xtra on/off.

[Esteban1]

Smoke:

I chopped a bunch off of the bottom...... Like a row.... So my question is how much more?

[SmokeMyPiece]

Do you know what a canopy is?

[Esteban1]

of course.... Again, new to THIS... Don't wanna F/U...So, with that said I'd rather cut the bottom row...(1 layer) as opposed to chopping off too much which I cannot replace? Throwing caution to the wind so to say! Thanks

[Esteban1]

Tellya what:


If you would be so kind, show me an example...A newly trimmed bottom portion & I'll get it.


Cheers

[SmokeMyPiece]

Sounds good man, just makin sure :thumbsup:
Kinda scared me when you said you cut off a bunch.
-You can kinda tell which are/aren't gonna make the top after a week. Stop cutting before the first 2weeks, or when flowering really starts up(whichever comes first).
-But you said you cut a row of em, so Im guessing you mean the ones that leveled out, but under the canopy.

EDIT:

Sure.
3 & 4 are before
5 is after

[Esteban1]

Thanks Again:

K.... I put them to sleep. Btw, Your mj is very green.... much greener than my girls! Those are the advantages of experience which I will possess the next grow. Guarantee I will only ask shit that is not understood the next x!!

[Esteban1]

Just checked in on the kids & they appear to be getting even bushier. 1 is budding up real quick & the other is just starting to. The 2 remaining are green with no flowering to date. You say that this is normal growth pattern during the flowering stage correct?

[SmokeMyPiece]

Ya. If they were all clones from the same plant, you could get em to flower together. But all from seed, you prolly got diff variations of the WW.
-Most will show sex within the 2-3weeks of flower. (Mine hasnt shown yet either)

[Esteban1]

Once again:

Big Thanks..... To be honest, Even if this turns out to be a dud (Which is doubtful cuz I totally get wrapped up in most of my endeavors 1000%) I will be satisfied knowing that this will be a memorable experience that will stay with me for years to come. Also it doesn't hurt that I will not need to go out looking for a lid & putting my rep on the line. Also very cool to know that I will be helping out a friend who has Parkinsons disease & will benefit ENORMOUSLY from the aromatics. Yea boy.... between you :cool:, Pushit :S1: & even Whitetop:wtf3: (with his help I learned what NOT TO DO <kinda like a multiple choice exam.... one always finds the correct answer by eliminating all of the stupid ones>) I expanded my mj knowledge base when it comes to growing. Hats off for you are really cool blokes:S3:

[Esteban1]

Just peeked in & all appear to be budding. The 1 is budding like crazy & getting that light green look. Will hit'm up with the 1/2 str. T. Bloom & B. Bloom later today. Vert growth is apparent in 2 of the 4 & doesn't look to be stopping anytime soon! Will shoot some pics later as well.

[Esteban1]

Flipped on Sunday eve.:hippy:


[attachment=o278579][attachment=o278580][attachment=o278581][attachment=o278582][attachment=o278583]

[SmokeMyPiece]

I see dank in your future my friend!

[Esteban1]

lmao;

Regular or Xtra Dank?

Thanx Bro's

[Esteban1]

Hit'm up with the 1/2 str flowering nutes as suggested cuz they were getting that light shade of green. Starting to see some flowering with the remaining 2, Awesome..... Some stanky dank coming this October. Getting a kick outta seeing them bud up. What would you suggest as a potent variety for my next batch? Something good for extreme leg pain!

Cheers

[SmokeMyPiece]

The Indica-dom's are gonna have more of the pain relieving potency. Can't go wrong with a kush-variety

[Esteban1]

Nice:

Will investigate that. So back to the feed schedule. Should I continue with the 1/2 strength feeds or give 'm a full blast when I feed the next time?

[SmokeMyPiece]

If none of the tips look burnt from the 1/2str feed, then you can try the full str next feed.
-keep an eye on the tips.

[Esteban1]

Oh, yea.... Almost forgot to ask....... what is the optimum distance between light & plant?

[SmokeMyPiece]

Oh, yea.... Almost forgot to ask....... what is the optimum distance between light & plant?
With CFLs/Fluro's: as close as possible: no more than a couple inches away.
-With HID's: Use the hand test. (hold back of hand at distance from light where its comfortable to stay for 45s.

[Esteban1]

Yea.... Been doing it all along by feel & common sense which isn't common in the 420 domain. Shot some pics. Again, I probably didn't trim them down as per but rather side with a little caution. So, with this said how much more do I need to trim?

Thanx Guys278675278676278677278678278679

[Esteban1]

1st timer Trying Real Hard[attachment=o278681][attachment=o278680]:rasta:

[SmokeMyPiece]

They look great man!
I still see a bunch of branches that aren't gonna make it.
-But since they're flowerin up, and ur sidein with caution, just let em go.

[Esteban1]

You guys get the props & thanks again bro's!! Just fed'm full tilt with a "FF" dual shot this a.m. Gotta go & peek to see if they are chill'n...:rasta:

[Esteban1]

?

What is the time frame for a complete bud/frost?

[Esteban1]

Reading something like 6-8 weeks.... No wonder you said flip 2 weeks prior!! These are gonna be as big as the closet growing @ this rate. Geez.... I am a frigg'n teenie head rookie. Well.... I'll chalk this one up to being a Newbie :rasta:

[Esteban1]

Getting there..... Just trimmed a bunch y'day. Been 2 days since last full strength feed with the FF nutes duo. Think I can feed again today? The soil is still a tad moist...


278761278760278759:pimp:

[SmokeMyPiece]

Comin along Este! :thumbsup:

-Let the soil dry out. I wait for the top surface to completely dry, then wait for the plant to slightly droop, to know when to water.
Then you can just give a slight tilt or lift of the pot when dry, and after watering, to get a feel for when to water.

Still kinda early in flower; Id go = feed > Water > Water > Feed for now since your plants still look dark green.
-If they start to show a lighter green, then go to a f>w>f sched.

Trimming should be done in veg, all the way up to the first 2-3weeks of flower. After that, you dont wanna stress em.
-Dont trim any leaves

[Esteban1]

Ya:

I'm into day 10 so I did a tad more trimming just on instinct as well as their appearance. I agree 100000% with everything that you're saying especially with the feeding schedule!!! Also gonna stop with the trim. Did a feel for the soil & still moist. So tomorrow I will be watering no nutes. Truly cannot believe my eyes. This is gonna happen!!

[pushit]

Looking good Esteban:thumbsup:

You and Smoke got it going on:rastabanna:

[Esteban1]

Hey bro..... you get a ton of props as well..... Again, couldn't have done this w/o all of the help!!

[Esteban1]

2 weeks of flower & they all look fab. Followed your advise & just agua this a.m. Sucked up close to 2 gallons of water. Oh.... Been giving them rain water cuz I can.... Tons of rain here!! Update.... the 1 is outta control & budding/frosting her azz off while the 2nd looks pretty damn impressive with a bunch of growing colas & the remaining 2 look average for the time frame ( & NO....I don't have a fck'n clue what average looks like, just extrapolating & taking an educated guess from my research )... Will shoot off a few pics later in the day before they take a nap. I know this has been mentioned a few times but here it is again.... Hats off Pushit, Cangrowit, Smoke of course & countless others that have been instrumental in my quest for pain control.... All are great teachers & awesome blokes/true humanitarians for putting up with my "ADD" behavior. Of course my cat thanks you too!!!! :rasta:

[Esteban1]

[attachment=o278797][attachment=o278796][attachment=o278798][attachment=o278799][attachment=o278800]

[Esteban1]

[attachment=o278801][attachment=o278802][attachment=o278803][attachment=o278804][attachment=o278805]

[Esteban1]

Would have given in 1 post but there is a 5 pic limit.


278806278807278808278809


:hippy:

CHEERS

[Esteban1]

Guys:

Just how much bigger are my girls gonna get?

[Esteban1]

Week 3 of flower & I find myself fidgeting over the smallest details. You name it, [attachment=o278859][attachment=o278861][attachment=o278860][attachment=o278862][attachment=o278863] I've done it. A few pics & yea, I am feeling kinda confident that I will have a nice fall harvest maybe, just maybe reconsider my calling in life....lmao

:abduct:

[pushit]

Week 3 of flower & I find myself fidgeting over the smallest details. You name it, [attachment=o278859][attachment=o278861][attachment=o278860][attachment=o278862][attachment=o278863] I've done it. A few pics & yea, I am feeling kinda confident that I will have a nice fall harvest maybe, just maybe reconsider my calling in life....lmao

:abduct:

Not too worry you but youre not in the clear til you are smoking them. Theres a huge list of things that can go wrong in the flowering, drying, and curing stages. Just keep doing what you are doing and listen to Smoke and you should be fine. Like i said im not trying to worry you just letting you know not to drop your guard. On a better note, they all looking great man!

[Esteban1]

Thanks for the info:

May I ask what a few of the issues may be? No need for a laundry list.... just a few examples to keep an eye out for besides pests?

[Esteban1]

Btw:


Thanx for the accolades & of course the help!

[pushit]

Thanks for the info:

May I ask what a few of the issues may be? No need for a laundry list.... just a few examples to keep an eye out for besides pests?

Now that you are in flower its best to have the humidity under 50%. The more humidity the better the chances of things like mold to pop up. Same with the drying and curing process. Good air circulation and low humidity levels will help you out alot in that area. Ive seen people try and add extra nutes towards the end hoping they will bulk their buds up and instead burn the plants up. Out of everything i fear mold the worse. I only had it one time on my first outdoor grow but it haunts me all the time haha. Im overly cautious these days. Mold, budrot, pests, hermies, etc.

[Esteban1]

Many thanks

[SmokeMyPiece]

Bud formation looks good, trichs startin to show up nicely, leaves still a dark green.. You're on your way man!

-Pushit nailed it all. More nutes wont equal more bud.

[Esteban1]

Yup:

Just been reading up on this EXACT Scenario where growers opt to increase nutes in trying to increase bud formation & wind up burning the crop. As much as I want to feed'm the answer is NOT! Will stay the course & give aqua x 2 as you stated in a recent post. Learning that A Ton of Patience is most definitely needed in a grow. Just kick'n back & learning a bunch from the posts.:abduct: Thanx Smoke !!

[Esteban1]

Big PROPS to Pushit as well! Awesome Teaching. Wish I had you guys when I attended university. Would have taken a Weed Farming 101 course. :abduct: "Beam me up Scotty"

[Esteban1]

Hypothetically speaking, what type of yield may I expect if all turns out well?

[Esteban1]

Going into week 4 tomorrow. Think that I'm noticing the legendary "tri chromes". [attachment=o278898][attachment=o278899][attachment=o278900][attachment=o278901][attachment=o278902]:S1:

[Esteban1]

Apologies for some of my recent posts as they are written in the moment of elation or despair so now that you can see how I'm wired, well.... yea, it's kinda like a wind up toy. I am all over the place. With that out of the way, the grow appears well with some of the leaves becoming a lighter shade of green & I do remember smoke mentioning hit'em with the FF flower nute duo & I did just that. & Yup..... I waited close to 3 days w/o agua. The soil was fairly dry. As for their growth. Noticeable expanded bud formation on 1 of the bigger plants. When I say big I mean the tallest is approx. 1.5Ft/48cm & the shortest only approx. 1ft/30.5cm & the 2 in between'ers. Temp. is between 74 & 82f. Ph is approx. 6.0 & rh 40%. Challenging when I adjust the lights so really see where that canopy needs to be somewhat even & will be accomplished the next time. Width is another story altogether. I can only describe this as taking up the entire closet. So now I have 2 that are looking very fat. The remaining 2 are flowering just ok & this is where 1 of the challenges lie. Hanging some lights IN the canopy allowing some of the smaller kolas some much needed light. Will float some more shots in a few days. This is now the beginning of week 4. Really need to reconsider & adjust this closet space for the next grow. With everything said, liftoff is still 4 weeks away & I know this cannot go w/o hitch!!


:abduct:

[SmokeMyPiece]

Good to hear :thumbsup:
Keep the blinders on and stick with your feed sched, and you'll be golden!

try to get that ph up to 6.5-6.8
-Its ok at 6, but dial it in for max uptake.

Keep up the great work!
-and quit apologizing, F-it lol

[Esteban1]

Thanks bro:

What would you recommend to give a slight boost in ph?


:rastabanna:

[SmokeMyPiece]

Ph-up :p

You could just pour more original high ph water in there. (Im guessing you're using ph-down only)
-might water it down a little, but works well with a mix around a gallon.

[Esteban1]

Gonna go by instinct for they appear cool.... ? Maybe a little up or down solutions are widely available but there are some ordinary items that may be used? They appear cool But otherwise just keeping an eye on them

[Esteban1]

Forgot to mention that I did trim some fan leaves as well as some fried leaves. Nice shade of white & green[attachment=o279012]. Did I mention the aroma? Holy shit batman!


:abduct:

[pushit]

Forgot to mention that I did trim some fan leaves as well as some fried leaves. Nice shade of white & green[attachment=o279012]. Did I mention the aroma? Holy shit batman!


:abduct:

Looking good man. Nice and healthy!

[Esteban1]

I just may graduate "Growing 101". Just need to keep focusing on the end game. H20 this a.m. No nutes. Repositioned All of the ladies as well as the lighting secondary to out of control growth. Trimmed a few more fan leaves & some funky looking other ones. Again, I understand one of the golden rules of 420/101 & "leveling out the canopy" is definitely on page 2..... Will launch a few wide angle pics in a few this way you guys/gals can get an idea.:abduct:

[Esteban1]

Guys:

Did some more trimming & noticing 1 plants leaves are turning a lot greener. Should I hit'm with a double shot of the FF nutes?

[Esteban1]

Guys:

Did some more trimming & noticed 1 of the plants leaves are turning a lot greener. Should I hit'm with a double shot of the FF nutes?

[poorlybabies]

hi can you help me i have got a cannabis plant & all its leaves have fell off there is only the stem left they only 3week old are they dying?

[Esteban1]

Knew this couldn't go on w/o a hitch! 1st f/u "I Think"..... While trimming some fan leaves I accidentally pinched a cola. It was a smaller 1 inside the canopy but still a diamond in the rough...... It's still hanging tough, we'll see?


:stupid:

[SmokeMyPiece]

Fan leaves are the solar panels that grow the plant.. Dont remove any unless they are dead.
-The buds dont need the light, the fan leaves do.
Thats prolly more of a F/U than pinching a runt branch that didnt make the canopy.

I wouldnt double up any dosages, but maybe a feed, water, feed is now necessary.
-Looks Great ESTE!

[Esteban1]

Start of week 5. Trimmed one plant & essentially "Lollipoped" her w/o realizing it! 2 of them are so top heavy that they started listing ....... I'd say at least 5-10 degrees. Straightened them out a bit w/o problems. Also the one cola that I had nipped is fine. I added a few pics so you guys can get an idea where I am.[attachment=o279091][attachment=o279092][attachment=o279093][attachment=o279094][attachment=o279095] My cats are always OUT THERE. Can't/will not invite a hottie over in fear of what she may catch a whiff of! Getting a Dank:angelsmiley:

[SmokeMyPiece]

Any stress should only be done up to week2 of flower. And that is even pushing it for some plants.
-Its week5 man, Hurting them now will tell them to stop flowering, and spend some time healing.

Lollipop is when you cut everything accept the top 1 or 2 nodes.
-That would devastate your yield now that its just about half way done.

Dont let your branches sag on their own weight = stress = foxtailing/airybuds

Pics look great!

[Esteban1]

Hey bro:

I hear ya...... I actually Did lollipop w/o realizing it @ week 2ish so yea..... Only 1 was kinda done. The other 3 are just chill'n. H20 this a.m. some minor adjustments & that's it. So other than repositioning (centering) the 2 that were "leaning", how does one reposition? Also how do you fix sagging branch issues?



:abduct:

[SmokeMyPiece]

String. Either tie sagging branches to other stems or the main stem, or anchor them to a stick in/next to the pots.

[Esteban1]

Thanx Bro!!

I know that this has been mentioned in some of my posts but need to say Again, You, (SmokeMyPiece), "Pushit", & "YouCanGrowit" are my heroes!!!!@@@@@ Hands down one of the most satisfying experience thus far in my journey! Not only in farming but in life. Thought this needed to be mentioned. Will shoot some jpegs later today.

@@PEACE@@


:abduct:

[Esteban1]

lolipopped a bit[attachment=o279127] :rasta:

[Esteban1]

Giddyup I say.... Please.... Advice or any comments on doing something better?

[Esteban1]

Conservative on the trimming but here they are.... A coming out party if you will. 3.5 weeks remaining. Can hardly wait!:abduct:

[attachment=o279128][attachment=o279129][attachment=o279130][attachment=o279131]

[canadianhemperor]

88f is too hot but you probably figured it out by now 78F is more the temp you want to have in your grow room!

[Esteban1]

yup:

Understood..... Tons of light/No Exhaust! But... At night nice & cool... 74-78. Next grow will utilize this technique but thanx all the same. :abduct:

[canadianhemperor]

Do you find the hairs on your buds are incridebly long? if so thats caused by high temps, sometimes you dont really realize it until it's dried and cured .If it's not the case ,your lucky high temps give hairy buds most of the times.

[Esteban1]

They appear normal but if it were the case...... this causes?

[canadianhemperor]

less dense buds more fluffy end product. it's still gona be potent so....... not much, it's more about maximum yield.

[canadianhemperor]

and I saw that you all your seeds in the same container, next time start your seeds in seperate containers roots mixing and touching is bad!

[CanGro]

I'm curious to why your plants look like they have been stripped bare, any reason why this is?

[Esteban1]

Answer;


[attachment=o279197]


& they are All looking like this!:abduct:

[CanGro]

Answer;


[attachment=o279197]


& they are All looking like this!:abduct:Your yet to answer my question as above, as I'm really curious to why you would cut your major fans from the plant and damage its growth for the buds......

[Esteban1]

CanGro:

Easy to explain..... Now that the plants are in "flower" all of the energy goes into the "flower"..... Not the leaves. Plenty remaining in & around colas to thrive. Lets put it this way, I've noticed a two fold growth ever since. I am talking 5 days. Can't argue with that......Y/N?


:abduct:

[CanGro]

CanGro:

Easy to explain..... Now that the plants are in "flower" all of the energy goes into the "flower"..... Not the leaves. Plenty remaining in & around colas to thrive. Lets put it this way, I've noticed a two fold growth ever since. I am talking 5 days. Can't argue with that......Y/N?


:abduct:But as I've said, uve damaged the bud growth by removeing the big fan leaves. The plant still requires the large leaves for photosynthesis, by reducing the amount of light taken in for the growth of the bud and removing them your buds ain't going to be that big. You've actually stumped the growth by doing this and reduced the carbon intake that the flower requires more so now than in the vegitive state.

[canadianhemperor]

fan leafs from the bud should not be removed unless it's covering another bud and minimizing the other buds potential. Fan leaves at the start of the branch that are used to make the branch get bigger when there job is done and the buds have plenty of fan leaves to sustain them and the branch, those leaves can now be removed, makes more juice for the branch and bud. Anyway they usually start to wilt when their job is done anyway.

[Esteban1]

& they were...... So removed. 2 fold growth in 6 days!

[SmokeMyPiece]

Wish you'da left one in tact, so you could see the difference.

-Thats like a track star wanting to cut his legs off to run faster...

Doesnt...make..sense..

[Esteban1]

Smoke:

You are so correct but I had some help from a grower out of Oregon. I didn't dismiss you guys.... Again, they are all fairing well & the growth is off the scale. Again, Judging from pics taken last week & comparing today it's like night & day. Will not trim anymore as per my Oregon bud. But seriously.... All 4 show out of control growth!

[Esteban1]

[attachment=o279242] [attachment=o279243] :abduct:

1st Pic last week...... & Yesterday

[canadianhemperor]

i'm all for removing leaves gradually and mostly in veg, when they wilt. or to uncover a bud to maximize it's potential! but i think you over did it!

[Esteban1]

Hemporer:

C'mon bro.... Less than a weeks time. This is a technique employed by "Med 420" growers in Oregon.

[Esteban1]

Same plant....


The angle is a tad different but the plant remains the same.


[attachment=o279245][attachment=o279247]


:abduct:

[pushit]

The way i see it is there's 100 different ways to grow. As long as the end result is good weed that you are happy with, in the end, thats all that matters. Who cares whose method is better? This is Esteban's first grow so he has plenty of time to experiment which methods are gonna be better for him in the future. Its all about learning.
BTW plants look great man. Nice and healthy! Great job.

[Esteban1]

Push:


Awesome Bro, I feel validated.... Means A LOT TO ME COMING FROM YOU



:abduct:

[n00b]

The way i see it is there's 100 different ways to grow. As long as the end result is good weed that you are happy with, in the end, thats all that matters. Who cares whose method is better? This is Esteban's first grow so he has plenty of time to experiment which methods are gonna be better for him in the future. Its all about learning.
BTW plants look great man. Nice and healthy! Great job.
Amen! And they do look nice, maybe a little weird without the fans, but nice buds so far!

[canadianhemperor]

true do it your way. And the buds look nice. Tell us how much you yield when they are done!

[Esteban1]

Here are a few more..... & thanx, Btw.... Still 3 + weeks till harvest!!


[attachment=o279261][attachment=o279262][attachment=o279263][attachment=o279264]



:abduct:

[Esteban1]

Hemporer:

Will certainly inform all as to the yield

[Esteban1]

Hemporer, Smoke, CanGrowIt;

How are your grows coming along?

[canadianhemperor]

It's going fine! But i"m not a big fan of posting pics my stuff on the net! I respect those who do it. But I dont think it's safe. If it is i would like to see proof. And to know if theres any law that protects free speech and those posting cannabis growing content on the net!

[Esteban1]

Hmmmmm

You are correct. Fortunately I reside a tad outside of the US. I believe posting a few pics will not do any harm. Personally I cannot live life feeling like a prisoner. Well that's my take on this precarious situation.

[Esteban1]

Smoke Or Anyone for that matter

Questions/Comments?



:420thought:

[SmokeMyPiece]

Smoke Or Anyone for that matter
Questions/Comments?:420thought:
Yes.
They look good.. but fkin raped em bro lol..

Dont believe the growth youve seen over the week, was because you striped all the fan leaves.
-They would have grown just the same, had you left em. However, I believe you may see some premature halt in growth, possibly some recovery, and hopefully not too bad, but airy-er buds.

The only time id be ...OK.... with stripping fan's is when people do it a week out from harvest.
-Still dont think it helps any, but by then, the bud's already around its peek.

Remember man, your first grow.. the plant knows how to grow itself....

[canadianhemperor]

Esteban1 do you want to learn a obscure growing technique to help reduce internode spacing? It helps maximize yield and reduces the space plants occupy. More plants yielding the same amount of bud as before in the same grow space means more bud for you.

[Esteban1]

Understood.....

& yea, I'm up to learning all things new & out there.

[canadianhemperor]

Ok here it goes: If nodes are distant from each other buds wont have time to bond together to form a bigger bud ( almost like a flower top). My friend showed me that technique and uses it on his grows showed it to somebody else that I know and it worked for him as well. Start from the begining of the branch(stem) and pinch/bruise internode littly, but be careful not to break the stems "skin" with your finger nails . You just apply a little pressure with thumb and index finger to reduce flow in the stem(internode) a little by causing bruising (dont crush it) . Repeat for each new internode/growth that comes out going up the branch(stem) . You only do this when the new internode is about 1 inch or close to your desired internode length( if you have enough space for finger and thumb that's a good sign). So this reduces node spacing. Because you temporary slow the growth of the internode. You will notice when you bruise the stem/internode it will swell up where you bruised it and make the stem bigger to compensate and push more juice/fluid up the stem, making the stem stronger. Dont over do it at first, it's a gradual process and make sure your plant is strong and healthy. Practice on one plant , just to get the hang of it. You never do tests/practice on all your plants. it's better this way!

Maybe you will like it, maybe you wont.But it's out there and now everyone can read it. So enjoy!

[Esteban1]

Hemporer:

Nice.... Will see if I can fit this in my next grow Curious.... I see that you are fairly new to this community.... You are also validated in your "Rating" with 3 bars next to your name?

[canadianhemperor]

when you like a post ,use the star in the bottom of the post window to boost reputation of other members!and if you are lucky they will do the same for you!

[Esteban1]

Thanks bro:

Was always wondering how folks received props /& they had only been on a site like a week?

[Esteban1]

Hemporer:

Gave you some props for the tidbit of info. Were you able to acknowledge some of my skills as well cuz I'm still known as an unknown entity!?

[Esteban1]

I have a few questions concerning "Reputation" on this site. I have seen peeps on this site for what..... 1 week & their rep is like 4 stars..... how can this be? Kinda feel that I might be deserving of some props but hey..... I'm cool with it either way, just wanted to get some info on this. Anyone out there willing to explain/comment?


Cheers & Happy Halloweenie



:abduct:

[canadianhemperor]

You rarely receive props for growlogs, mostly for answering questions and giving out info.

[pushit]

I have a few questions concerning "Reputation" on this site. I have seen peeps on this site for what..... 1 week & their rep is like 4 stars..... how can this be? Kinda feel that I might be deserving of some props but hey..... I'm cool with it either way, just wanted to get some info on this. Anyone out there willing to explain/comment?


Cheers & Happy Halloweenie



:abduct:

A lot of people get rep points for helping people with their questions. I mean if im having an issue with my grow and someone pops in and tells me what im doing wrong and it corrects the issue then i give rep. Thats pretty much how the rep system works. But to be honest, since the LIKE thing came around pretty much everyone uses that instead of rep. I think its cause its easier for people to find vs the rep.

I personally dont care if i have one bar or 50. Im on here to learn everything i can about growing not to win a popularity contest

[Esteban1]

Hey guys:

Thanks for the props & truly was just curious but totally understand & agree. Shit that makes sense to me is like Latin.

[Esteban1]

Push/Hemporer:


Big Props with or without the bars for all of the help getting me off the ground & Yup..... Not here for a popularity contest



:toilet_claw:

[Esteban1]

Question:

I know that the kids are well into their final stages so here it goes. Judging from This pic would it be detrimental if I clipped a few of the bottom colas that are Not receiving a ton of light?

Thanx


[attachment=o279403][attachment=o279404][attachment=o279405]


:jawdropper:

[canadianhemperor]

Some people do just the opposite of that. They wait until the big buds (main colas,top flowers) are ready and harvest them and leave the smaller buds on the plant and keep them under the lights for a few more days so the buds get bigger and are worth harvesting.

[Esteban1]

That makes good sense:

Was told to do something similar... visa vie; Since colas mature at various times in development (Colas closest to the light source) THEY should be harvested 1st..... Then I suppose the ones that are in the middle & so on & so forth.



:clap:

[Esteban1]

Forgot to mention that the harvest shold be done in stages occurring within a week. This info was explained to me by a grower in Oregon. Fairly simple process..... I think?

[Esteban1]

Will be doing just that.... Like ur style Hemporer****** Guys/Gals..... This is 1 plant. All of the kids are getting so heavy that I may need to utilize a stake to prevent from bowing. Ideas/comments always entertained



[attachment=o279414][attachment=o279415][attachment=o279416][attachment=o279417]



:abduct:

[Esteban1]

This jpeg was so big that I was unable to compress under 2mb so I just compressed it to kb... oh well


[attachment=o279418]




:abduct:

[Esteban1]

attempting to remove the colitas from the bottom. Only tried a 1 from each girl to get a feel. I am a few weeks away from the end product so we will see. Questions/comments concerning this procedure are welcome!

[canadianhemperor]

A lot of people do that. The only thing I want to had is dry the test bud properly like you would do when you normaly harvest. Speading up the drying process will only ruin the test and disapoint you before you really taste the final product.:thumbsup:

[Esteban1]

Hemporer:

Thanks.... actually have them drying on top of the metal portion of the lights so they will just dry out in a few days or so? There is SO MUCH FRIGG'N CONTRADICTORY INFORMATION OUT THERE CONCERNING GROWING THAT MY HEAD IS ABOUT TO IMPLODE. Curious as to why there is a "Banned" under your name?


:S1:

[Esteban1]

So:

My question is this..... Fed the kids the scheduled "Heavy Feed" of Fox Farm nutes last week, the next feed like 5 days ago was a "Light Feed" & they responded so well that I gave them another "Heavy Feed" y'day morning & today they like gained another 5% mass!! No tip burns.... notta. Should I continue with feeding them on this schedule or will they succumb at some point? I know the feeding schedule schedule but it appears that depending on conditions.... visa vie "genetics" & other changing variables one may give the plants the nutes that they so desire based on the growth rate??

Thanx

[SmokeMyPiece]

I wouldnt change anything. more nutes doesnt mean more bud. the plant will grow as it is genetically programmed to.

-If the plant is a healthy green with noticeable growth every day-2days, then you're good.
-The time to have found its max feed was during the first 2 weeks of flower. Some like to feed until the tips slightly burn then back off. If you try this now, you may burn it too much, messing with your yield. Your First Grow, you dont wanna discourage yourself from a second.

[Esteban1]

Couldn't agree more!!! So since the "Heavy Feed" y'day, will back off & lean towards a conservative approach visa vie the tried & true nute schedule. Anything else I should know/do?



I wouldnt change anything. more nutes doesnt mean more bud. the plant will grow as it is genetically programmed to.

-If the plant is a healthy green with noticeable growth every day-2days, then you're good.
-The time to have found its max feed was during the first 2 weeks of flower. Some like to feed until the tips slightly burn then back off. If you try this now, you may burn it too much, messing with your yield. Your First Grow, you dont wanna discourage yourself from a second.[attachment=o279644][attachment=o279645][attachment=o279646][attachment=o279647][attachment=o279648]



:abduct:

[Esteban1]

[attachment=o279649]



:abduct:

[pushit]

So are you around 7 weeks into flower? If so the beginning of the end is coming around the corner. Just keep in mind you need to use just water for the last week or two. Flush them good. Start watching your trichomes.

[Esteban1]

So are you around 7 weeks into flower? If so the beginning of the end is coming around the corner. Just keep in mind you need to use just water for the last week or two. Flush them good. Start watching your trichomes.


Yup:

Been noticing the change from a clear to a milky white & now they metamorphosized into an orange like with some reddish hue. There is also a school of cannabis that sez to trim mature colas & to harvest in "stages". Thanks for the heads up with flushing. Was actually going to ask a question concerning this subject. Hear different opinions pertaining to the flush. There are different products on the market to do this w/o aqua. What is your take on it?

[pushit]

Yup:

Been noticing the change from a clear to a milky white & now they metamorphosized into an orange like with some reddish hue. There is also a school of cannabis that sez to trim mature colas & to harvest in "stages". Thanks for the heads up with flushing. Was actually going to ask a question concerning this subject. Hear different opinions pertaining to the flush. There are different products on the market to do this w/o aqua. What is your take on it?

I use sledgehammer but you can do it with just plain phd water. You can harvest in stages if you want or you can cut the whole thing and have multiple highs from that one plant. I just recently started cutting the whole plant and hang it to dry (fan leaves and all). From what i noticed is with leaving everything intacked, that there is a better taste to it. It takes longer to dry and you have to watch it more closely for mold etc. Ive only done one plant like this so far but i think im gonna stay with this method. Here's a pic of what im talking about [attachment=o279652]

[Esteban1]

@@@@SWEET@@@@



Guesstimate as to her weight when dry?

[pushit]

No clue. I only grow for me and the old lady so no need to ever weigh anything. Hell i dont even own a scale haha.

[Esteban1]

Same here:

What can I expect for my grow judging from the 1 pic.... Again.... There is one that is out of control with a few colitas the size of an extra large egg & it's turning into the "Blob".... Doesn't look normal (well the norm for what I'm accustomed to seeing)! Also 2 more that are ever expanding. Know that I may have asked you this question so bear with me. My "ADD" is kicking in.

[pushit]

Same here:

What can I expect for my grow judging from the 1 pic.... Again.... There is one that is out of control with a few colitas the size of an extra large egg & it's turning into the "Blob".... Doesn't look normal (well the norm for what I'm accustomed to seeing)! Also 2 more that are ever expanding. Know that I may have asked you this question so bear with me. My "ADD" is kicking in.

Hopefully you can expect some good bud haha. The bud formation will vary. I mean some buds will look all pretty while others will expand every which way.

[Esteban1]

Hey Guys:

Think there are 2 weeks remaining. Still getting much bigger




[attachment=o279673]



:abduct:

[Esteban1]

[attachment=o279675]


SALSA............


:S1:

[SasiGirl]

Wow, your pic looks a lot like my Motavation :D

SOWRY, WRONG PICS.....

[Esteban1]

Sweet Leaf..... Nice Sas

[Esteban1]

Push:

Thanks for the thumbs up. This small sustainable garden produced 3 full harvests through out the summer & just a few days prior! Cost no more than 150$ & provided me with sustenance visa vie..... enough "Pesto" for me & my son to enjoy for days & of course the obligatory "salsa" & so much extra vegetables that I was able to give pounds of them away to neighbors & even my Fedex delivery man. Talking about "Bring'n down the cartels 1 plant at a time". Well I'm bring'n down the local produce sellers! Hope my indoor harvest will bring me this much joy?

[Esteban1]

Seriously considering the "slow harvest" technique & snip some of the mature colita's 1st & work my way down & around. If anyone has some input into this procedure please chime in. In the meantime still a couple weeks off but all appears ok? Until then here are a few macro shots with strong emphasis on the tendules (hairs). Input please!


[attachment=o279786][attachment=o279787][attachment=o279788][attachment=o279789]



:abduct:

[Esteban1]

279790279791279792279793


:abduct:

[Esteban1]

Can anyone out there shed some light/advise on an extended flower as stated in my last post. Any comment would be entertained & greatly appreciated. Thanks


:abduct:

[Esteban1]

Gather no one out there wishes to comment on harvesting in stages? I get it. Thanks for all of the help getting me here!! Truly appreciate it. I only wish the best to all.



:abduct:

[Esteban1]

Push, CanGrowIt....

Any advice/tips on harvesting top to bottom as the colitas mature? My question is this........ Has anyone out there in the culture experimented clipping flowers as they mature at the top then working your way down as the remaining colitas mature at a later date?


:abduct: