fluorescent lights

[irishbud]

guys, i only havs 2 grows under my small belt haha but i done them the same. i grew in soil and used 4 cool white tubes the 2 foot ones i think they are to veg, i let them veg for at least 8 weeks before changing to hps to flower. are there new types of fluorescent lights out now? i seen some guy on youtube and he was using 1 4 foot tube to veg at least 10 plants and they were pritty big. can anyone bring me up to date on what iv missed over the past 4 years.

cheers

[ncgysfnshlst]

just look 4 the highest kelvin rating
and amount of lumens.

for both category's, higher is better (no shit lol)

[kingbud2010]

would ya not just use 125w blue spectrum cfl's there a great job

[irishbud]

are them T5 lighting systems not available over here yet? they sound good, see i still hv my hps lamp but i gave away the flour's nd ballast. im limited for this grow so was wanting the flor's in 3 or 4 foot lenghts to veg nd flower wuld tht be possible?

[kingbud2010]

you can buy 2x 1 ft purple spectrum flor's at thc.ie for 40 euro, their good for seedlings, blue/white for veg and red for flowering,you'd be aswell off to buy the cfl's man their only 40 euro each and one of them should do you for a good few plants, they don't need a ballast there's pretty much no heat off them either so you can have them very close to the plant

[deeproots]

Alright irishbud

Just to let you know i think them cool white are only 2400k so they would be better for flowering. If you look out for 2 foot daylight 6400k flor's there great for veg and it would only be a matter of changing your tube's and can keep your cool white tube's for back up lighting in flowering. You can get the daylight's in Woodies and B & Q:thumbsup:

[deeproots]

Alright bro made a mistake with the kelvin tem should say 4000k

[irishbud]

Alright irishbud

Just to let you know i think them cool white are only 2400k so they would be better for flowering. If you look out for 2 foot daylight 6400k flor's there great for veg and it would only be a matter of changing your tube's and can keep your cool white tube's for back up lighting in flowering. You can get the daylight's in Woodies and B & Q:thumbsup:

so if i got 4 6400k daylight flor's 2 feet long tht would be plenty to veg 2 plants? wat then to flower, wat 4 flor's will i then use to flower? i dnt wnt to use my hps light to flower coz of the heat issue.

[irishbud]

would ya not just use 125w blue spectrum cfl's there a great job

would 2 125w
blue spectrum cfl's be good enough to veg and flower 2 plants? i know the more light the better so i wnt the plants to get the best to produce the best but without the heat issues if possible. the seeds i have are feminized black russion and juicy cronic.

[deeproots]

well irishbud

I have one of them 125 watt blue cfl's that kingbud2010 is talking about and i think there great and the fella in the grow shop said it puts out enough light to do 2 plants put i have mine over 1. The only thing is there 40 / 45 euro each.
You should go have a look in your local grow shop they will tell all about om


p.s. i wouldnt use it for flowering

[irishbud]

well irishbud

I have one of them 125 watt blue cfl's that kingbud2010 is talking about and i think there great and the fella in the grow shop said it puts out enough light to do 2 plants put i have mine over 1. The only thing is there 40 / 45 euro each.
You should go have a look in your local grow shop they will tell all about om


p.s. i wouldnt use it for flowering

so blue cfl's to veg ill get 2. can u get a reflector to go around lik a ballast? any idea on wat to use to flower? cheers lad

[loststix]

i have those bulbs and i use them they come in different colour codes
red for flower and blue for root growth
no heat of them and light fittings can be got at local hardware shop
reflector can be got at a hardware shop
it is just where ya buy them they come in 125,150,200,250
shop around as i havent seen any about in a shop that comes near internet price
i am using one for a re-veg which seems to be working
change all the lights in ur house to the cfl's and wont notice the difference in ur esb bill
:rastasmoke:

[irishbud]

i have those bulbs and i use them they come in different colour codes
red for flower and blue for root growth
no heat of them and light fittings can be got at local hardware shop
reflector can be got at a hardware shop
it is just where ya buy them they come in 125,150,200,250
shop around as i havent seen any about in a shop that comes near internet price
i am using one for a re-veg which seems to be working
change all the lights in ur house to the cfl's and wont notice the difference in ur esb bill
:rastasmoke:

thanks for the input lad when you say blue is for root growth is that veg? and would yse the red to flower?

[deeproots]

Well bro

You can get them as follows.................
Eco light blue for grow/veg in 125 watt 45, 200 watt 65, 250 watt 85 euro,s
Eco light red for bloom/flower in 125 watt 45, 200 w 65, 250 w 85 euro,s
Eco light purple for veg/flower in 125 watt 50, 200 w 70, 220 w 75, 250 w 90 euro,s. I would get the purple as there only a extra 5 euro,s and can use them for veg and flowering i am going to get one myself hope this help,s;)

[irishbud]

Well bro

You can get them as follows.................
Eco light blue for grow/veg in 125 watt 45, 200 watt 65, 250 watt 85 euro,s
Eco light red for bloom/flower in 125 watt 45, 200 w 65, 250 w 85 euro,s
Eco light purple for veg/flower in 125 watt 50, 200 w 70, 220 w 75, 250 w 90 euro,s. I would get the purple as there only a extra 5 euro,s and can use them for veg and flowering i am going to get one myself hope this help,s;)

deeproots nice one for the help man, i bought a ballast to hold 4 2 foot flor's only cost me 15 quid but dnt no were to get the proper flor's for it, can you tell me were can i get the cfl's and all the stuff to get it working. im sorry for asking so many questions but i dont want to mess it up yeno but thanks again lad ur on my xmas card list

[khyberkitsune]

you can buy 2x 1 ft purple spectrum flor's at thc.ie for 40 euro, their good for seedlings, blue/white for veg and red for flowering,you'd be aswell off to buy the cfl's man their only 40 euro each and one of them should do you for a good few plants, they don't need a ballast there's pretty much no heat off them either so you can have them very close to the plant

All gas discharge lamps require a ballast, from HID to fluorescent. Who told you CFLs don't require a ballast?

[khyberkitsune]

i have those bulbs and i use them they come in different colour codes
red for flower and blue for root growth
no heat of them and light fittings can be got at local hardware shop
reflector can be got at a hardware shop
it is just where ya buy them they come in 125,150,200,250
shop around as i havent seen any about in a shop that comes near internet price
i am using one for a re-veg which seems to be working
change all the lights in ur house to the cfl's and wont notice the difference in ur esb bill
:rastasmoke:

Blue for root growth? No. Red for root growth. Red is responsible for photomorphogenesis and structure production. Blue is primarily responsible for bulk mass production.

[irishbud]

All gas discharge lamps require a ballast, from HID to fluorescent. Who told you CFLs don't require a ballast?

iv seen pics on here ppl using cfl's in wat looks like a normal socket scrwed to a bit of wood......im just trying to get my setup going using cfl's or flor's to veg. im starting from seed and trying to take on board what everyone is saying you could say im a bit confused. is it 3 fdifferent colors i need? a bulb for seedling, one to veg and one to flower?

thanks man

[mickrick]

iv seen pics on here ppl using cfl's in wat looks like a normal socket scrwed to a bit of wood......im just trying to get my setup going using cfl's or flor's to veg. im starting from seed and trying to take on board what everyone is saying you could say im a bit confused. is it 3 fdifferent colors i need? a bulb for seedling, one to veg and one to flower?

thanks man

hey bud, the wood is just a bracket to hold the bulb fitting.ballast is in the base of the bulb..
only two color's blue for seedlings and veg red for flowering
with the cfl's for flowering you wont get much back for ya time and effort hps is the way to go.. just a thought mate.. have a read of this..

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[khyberkitsune]

iv seen pics on here ppl using cfl's in wat looks like a normal socket scrwed to a bit of wood......im just trying to get my setup going using cfl's or flor's to veg. im starting from seed and trying to take on board what everyone is saying you could say im a bit confused. is it 3 fdifferent colors i need? a bulb for seedling, one to veg and one to flower?

thanks man

Find one that closely matches the spectral output balance of the sun.

[PhatJay]

All gas discharge lamps require a ballast, from HID to fluorescent. Who told you CFLs don't require a ballast?

I think he means that they don't have an external ballast. You are right of course ;) ,The ballst on the CFL's he is talking about (E40 fitting that I use) have the ballast built into them.

[PhatJay]

with the cfl's for flowering you wont get much back for ya time and effort

I can get 2oz a plant with 1x125w 2700k CFL per plant. Not as good as you get with HPS, but I think that is pretty reasonable.

[khyberkitsune]

I can get 2oz a plant with 1x125w 2700k CFL per plant. Not as good as you get with HPS, but I think that is pretty reasonable.

Run that 125w CFL vertical with a few smaller plants surrounding it and I think you'd see your yields improve dramatically.

[deeproots]

Well bro

Ask as many questions as you want irishbud we are all here to learn and fine tune our growing im not saying i know it all because believe me im only learning myself so all the info that every one is given im taken in just like you.
But any way them 125 to 250 cfl,s are all self ballast but if your on about the fitting that the cfl screw,s in to the man in the grow shop should have them for sale. As i said blue for veg red for flowering but there is purple cfl,s that are for veg and flowering. If you want when my lights are off over my plants been in flowering i will take my the lights and stuff apart and post a few pic,s for you bro if that help,s:hippy:

[khyberkitsune]

You know, I wonder if they've ever tried making a high-pressure fluorescent lamp?

[deeproots]

Well khyberkitsune

Bro thats one thing i havent got a clue about is grow lights how they work and ect. Just starting to find out how to use them never mind what make,s om work ha. But id say if there was a way to get that high intensity discharge from a low watt bulb in a cfl form that would be cool. Going to check out your log,s bro it looks your doing great with your leds.:hippy:

[PhatJay]

Run that 125w CFL vertical with a few smaller plants surrounding it and I think you'd see your yields improve dramatically.

Yeah, I am still tweaking my setup and have already experimented with smaller plants. I have a friend who was getting 4oz a plant with CFL's. My current aim is 1g per watt of light and in the future going down the led route.

[khyberkitsune]

Well khyberkitsune

Bro thats one thing i havent got a clue about is grow lights how they work and ect. Just starting to find out how to use them never mind what make,s om work ha. But id say if there was a way to get that high intensity discharge from a low watt bulb in a cfl form that would be cool. Going to check out your log,s bro it looks your doing great with your leds.:hippy:

I wouldn't necessarily say low wattage for a high intensity discharge, although that could be possible as well. I would think it possible to make a high pressure high-discharge low-wattage fluorescent lamp given a proper bulb material construction, since the majority of the output comes from the mercury and then high amounts of excitable gas in the tube, which requires high pressures and thus a strong tube to contain (typically some sort of fused silica or quartz or alumiglass.) The more gas that hits the excitation state (within a proper ratio, there's always the law of diminishing returns, which you can see in 600w HPS vs 1000w HPS in the lumens output) the more light possible to be output.

However, how much heat that could generate remains to be seen, as well as the efficiency overall, not just the lamp itself, but ballast and thermal dissipation and output as well.

Phatjay, I would suggest you go a little more scientific and try to hit one gram per kilowatt-hour of power used. That might take a bit more math, but I think you'll find it something more impressive once you do the comparison math.

[irishbud]

Well bro

Ask as many questions as you want irishbud we are all here to learn and fine tune our growing im not saying i know it all because believe me im only learning myself so all the info that every one is given im taken in just like you.
But any way them 125 to 250 cfl,s are all self ballast but if your on about the fitting that the cfl screw,s in to the man in the grow shop should have them for sale. As i said blue for veg red for flowering but there is purple cfl,s that are for veg and flowering. If you want when my lights are off over my plants been in flowering i will take my the lights and stuff apart and post a few pic,s for you bro if that help,s:hippy:

deeproots that would be great id lik to see what your setup is like. cheers man

[redster]

guys, i only havs 2 grows under my small belt haha but i done them the same. i grew in soil and used 4 cool white tubes the 2 foot ones i think they are to veg, i let them veg for at least 8 weeks before changing to hps to flower. are there new types of fluorescent lights out now? i seen some guy on youtube and he was using 1 4 foot tube to veg at least 10 plants and they were pritty big. can anyone bring me up to date on what iv missed over the past 4 years.

cheers

hello there mate,, saw you need something that is as impostant to us people as money isd to the government,, well i have a friends that has 4=2foot ones and 3=4 foot maybe longer but ye im 99.9 % sure it is 4foot im know it seven all to gether he has now cahanged tothose LED light=s ans swears butyt them as he going fdor experement crops cross breading i think he does now any how theses lights he wants rid of have a lot of use left as they only done a couple of weeks b4 his crop had to unfortunatly be moved wich done it no favours as you can emagine in such a hurry so maybe if you make him an offer on all the light s rather than the ones you need you'll get a bargain here is a e-mial for him [email protected] you can talk privater there.. i know his price for all is hgighewst bidder really but anfoffer of anything around the 175 mark would get you all the lightns may even make your mony back selling the ones you wont need or use them as you know the out come pay's of. i myself have a little wite widdow attempt on the grow so fingers crossed bud. any how thanks for reading and hopefully i have maybe helped you find some thing you could use to you r purpoe of advantage, cheers

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[deeproots]

deeproots that would be great id lik to see what your setup is like. cheers man

'ya il get a few pic,s up there 2moro wont be much cause i only got 3 plants going on this grow fill you in on the rest on the post bro;)

[irishbud]

'ya il get a few pic,s up there 2moro wont be much cause i only got 3 plants going on this grow fill you in on the rest on the post bro;)

cheers lad, just getting all my stuff sorted. the shop were im getting most of it dont sell the purple cfls so gona do with the cool white and daylight flor's to veg ill deal with the flower issue when it comes to it....

[deeproots]

cheers lad, just getting all my stuff sorted. the shop were im getting most of it dont sell the purple cfls so gona do with the cool white and daylight flor's to veg ill deal with the flower issue when it comes to it....

Ya i deff post a few pic,s

I have the big one flowering and 4 other bagseed flowering i had another 4 bagseed but they were male so you know your self.
So any way il get that going for tonight see what you think ( not nuch id say)sa:rasta:y

[irishbud]

Ya i deff post a few pic,s

I have the big one flowering and 4 other bagseed flowering i had another 4 bagseed but they were male so you know your self.
So any way il get that going for tonight see what you think ( not nuch id say)sa:rasta:y

Alri roots, lookin 4ward to the pics lad nearly ready to go myself few more days and ill be germinating

[deeproots]

Sorry for not getin back 2 u

But i am haven 2 you but im haven problems with my big A,M,S so when i get it sorted il post an update o k my man. AS i have been reading i saw that you
have a grow of your own now so fare fucks to you my man. Il get back to you as soon as my prob is sorted out. So tack it easy till then bro.:hippy: