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CatManDoo
10-07-2010, 07:38 PM
I'm pasting this info from the Norml website. Should be interesting.-----

Please join host Chris Skyhawk for Universal Perspectives this Thursday night October 7 from 7-8 PM on KZYX/Z 90.7/91.5 FM in Mendocino County. We will be hosting a forum on Proposition 19, the Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010, which appears on the ballot this November.
Guests will be Chris Conrad and Dragonfly de la Luz.
Conrad is

1. an author
- Hemp: Lifeline to the Future,
- Hemp for Health,
- Shattered Lives: Portraits from America??s Drug War,
- and Cannabis Yields and Dosage,
2. the court-qualified marijuana expert witness cited in the California Supreme Court??s Kelly decision,
3. curator of the Hash Marihuana and Hemp Museum in Amsterdam,
4. founder of Safe Access Now,
5. publisher of the West Coast Leaf newspaper and
6. member of the Yes on 19 campaign. (See chrisconrad.com, westcoastleaf.com).

De la Luz is

1. a correspondent for the television news show ??Cannabis Planet?,
2. a writer on marijuana issues for various publications and
3. is a critic of Prop 19.

Within the pro-marijuana community there has been a lengthy debate on the merits of Prop 19. We will spend the hour exploring those issues with our guests, as well as discussing what Prop 19 would do if passed and speculate on those impacts within the Emerald Triangle region.
Out-of-area listeners can tune in via the web.
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WillyNilly
10-14-2010, 03:23 AM
Well, we all know how that went. De la luz, cute as she is, is shilling forthe quasi-legal grower-profiteers who are making millions from the dispensary scam.

Prop 19 is step 1 in the war for true egalitarian legalization. It's a plant, dammit, not a goldmine.

VapedG13
10-14-2010, 05:49 AM
Currently under the California Constitution, ??growing crops?? are exempt from ??taxation??,( No taxes collected)AND in order for a local government to impose a ??general tax?? it must be approved by the electorate with a majority vote.

Prop 19 effectively overrides these precedents of the California constitution in regards to Cannabis by giving local governments the authority to tax a ??growing crop?? WITHOUT LIMITATION AND WITHOUT A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE LOCAL PEOPLE.

Meaning the local government can choose to charge you $1000 a year for the privledge of your 5x5... then raise it without any voting nessary.

Just how much we guuna have to pay to grow a god given plant in a 5x5???:hippy:

mikeyman
10-14-2010, 06:26 AM
Currently under the California Constitution, ??growing crops?? are exempt from ??taxation??,( No taxes collected)AND in order for a local government to impose a ??general tax?? it must be approved by the electorate with a majority vote.

Prop 19 effectively overrides these precedents of the California constitution in regards to Cannabis by giving local governments the authority to tax a ??growing crop?? WITHOUT LIMITATION AND WITHOUT A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE LOCAL PEOPLE.

Meaning the local government can choose to charge you $1000 a year for the privledge of your 5x5... then raise it without any voting nessary.

Just how much we guuna have to pay to grow a god given plant in a 5x5???:hippy:

dude don't panic if they make it to expensive they will drive it underground and they don't want that.I see nothing that says they are gunna go door to door and tax your personal plants ...be real:rastasmoke:

leadmagnet
10-14-2010, 06:45 AM
Currently under the California Constitution, ??growing crops?? are exempt from ??taxation??,( No taxes collected)AND in order for a local government to impose a ??general tax?? it must be approved by the electorate with a majority vote.

Prop 19 effectively overrides these precedents of the California constitution in regards to Cannabis by giving local governments the authority to tax a ??growing crop?? WITHOUT LIMITATION AND WITHOUT A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE LOCAL PEOPLE.

Meaning the local government can choose to charge you $1000 a year for the privledge of your 5x5... then raise it without any voting nessary.

Just how much we guuna have to pay to grow a god given plant in a 5x5???:hippy:

Hard to predict what kind of crazy city and county ordinances will pop up subsequent to 19 passing. Keeping your medical recommendation current will nonetheless be a wise move for the time being. After that we're going to have to wait and see. One thing for sure; we're going to see some cities come up with some real batshit stuff. On the other hand I'm confident wisdom will prevail... eventually. For anyone with average growing skills, good patience, and a decent setup- quality cannabis will continue to be readily available in kalifornia.