marijuana vs. tobacco, which is more harmful for lungs?

[5HT]

so what is safer to smoke, marijuana or tobacco? also, doesn't smoking from a bong--taking huge bong rips, mean a lot of harm on your lungs?

[Weasel]

a tobacca addction is as strong as a herion or crack addiction and weed as no or barely any addiction plus it taste better

[Mexicanhomeboy]

depends what you smoke more, since smokers smoke a pack a day the tabacco wil hurt them more than weed, but weed has more carcinonuinosgens( dont know how to spell), and its not like you smoke as much weed as the tabacoo in a pack of cigs in a day like me

[Mojavpa]

Its hard to do a scientific study comparing the effects of tobacco and marijuana on the lungs because most marijuana smokers also smoke tobacco.

[ermitonto]

Well, for one marijuana unlike tobacco doesn't typically contain radioactive materials.

[Lightitup44]

I believe a bong(water bong) is safer to smoke out of because the water filters out some harmful products in the smoke.

-peace

[Stedric]

Yes marijuana contains more carcinogens, but tobacco users smoke much more than your average marijuana users.

I think it all depends, but I think if I'm going to be harming my lungs I might as well get some nice effects from it, so I'll stick to my weed. :D

[barret]

I believe a bong(water bong) is safer to smoke out of because the water filters out some harmful products in the smoke.

-peace
That is true, but there have been reports that the amount of hits people take from bongs increases because each hit lacks the amount of potentcy as smoking out of a pipe or joint would, thus causeing the user to smoke more ( of harmeful and non harmfuel chemicals) to ge the same effect.

[DROSKI187]

barret thats complete bullshit

[dialtone420]

Bull

[Edgar]

ive heard the same thing barret.

[dylan]

yes, me too! the stude said that bongs reduce the amount of thc, but leave the cbn.

[ermitonto]

That's ridiculous. Where does the THC go? It's not water-soluble. That is, drinking the bong water does NOT get you high for the same reason you can't get high by letting some buds soak in water and then drinking the water.

[jadeius]

I can tell you that there are over 4000 chemicals in cigarettes that not only kill you, they cause more addiction to the nicotine...nicotine is relatively harmless....there's a lot more nicotine in marijuana than there is in tobacco....but marijuana (even though it has tons of chemicals) is not treated by man in a factory as is tobacco....cigarettes contain cyanide, ammonia, and thousands of unnatural chemicals...so even though marijuana has chemicals, it's all naturally synthesized within the plant....chemicals in cigarettes, I would say, are more harmful than chemicals in marijuana. The only other factor you want to take into account is the filter; you smoke tobacco through a filter with cigarettes, but not at all with marijuana...so that's a factor.

I personally think it all weighs out...they're probably both just as harmful as the other in smoke form...you're oxidizing thousands of different chemicals with that sudden fire with both substances...

But to sum it up, if you were to take tobacco out of cigarettes and smoke it filterless, say, in a bong or pipe, it would probably kill you a lot faster than pot would....

The nicotine in cigarettes is free-based with ammonia, much the same way cocaine is free-based with baking soda to make crack...so it's 100 times more potent and 1000 times more addictive...

[F L E S H]

Nicotine in marijuana? That's the first time I hear of that...

But like ermitonto said, it's been proven, yet not publicized, that most people who develop cancer due to cigarette smoking did not do so because of the carcinogens themselves, but because the tobacco is actually radioactive. It contains radium.

[jadeius]

Hmm, well I've never heard that, but I believe it though....

[ermitonto]

Yes, and the thing is most of the radiation is caused by the phosphate fertilizers the big tobacco companies use. If you grew your own tobacco I doubt it would be much more harmful than marijuana.

http://www.acsa.net/HealthAlert/radioactive_tobacco.html

[Nullific]

Many people don't realize that there is a difference between marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke does not contain polonium 210 whereas tobacco smoke does.
People like to talk about 'tar', tar this tar that...tar is not what causes lung cancer. Polonium 210, however, "is the only component in cigarette smoke tar that has produced cancers by itself in laboratory animals as a result of inhalation exposure". (Yuille CL, Berke HL, Hull T. Lung cancer following Pb210 inhalation in rats. Radiat Res. 1967;31:760-774)

Marijuana has been used for thousands of years, and since the day of George Washington in the United States yet there are no known cases of death that can attributed to the use of marijuana. Of all the studies done, none have been able to link smoking cannabis directly with cancers or life threatening damage to the lungs.
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/23/1728_57309
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1432/a02.html
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread10025.shtml

THC and other cannabinoids are antioxidants, they have been shown in laboratory experiments to prevent the growth of, shrink and destroy tumors. Further research will be done involving humans.
Hampson et.al 98 (http://www.druglibrary.org/crl/neurological/Hampson%20et.al%2098%20Neuroprotection_%20ProcNat% 27lAcadSci%20.pdf)
http://www.alternet.org/story/9257

Other evidence states that cannabis smoke acts as an expectorant in 80% of the population, as in it cleans the lungs increasing the life expectancy of moderate cannabis smokers who also smoke tobacco. (The Emperor Wears No Clothes, Chapter 7 (http://www.jackherer.com/chapter07.html))

For the bong users out there, the study performed by MAPS and NORML (http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v06n3/06359mj1.html) used NIDA supplied marijuana and tested seven smoking devices.

[jakenthegentiles]

no man its 22 ciggs for 1 joint

[mellow mood]

i heard 10 cigs=1 joints. depends on how big is your joint and how long u keep your hits. too variable

[Nullific]

You can't even say x number of cigarettes 'equals' one joint. What are you basing it upon? Tar content?
Tar doesn't mean a damn thing in terms of lung damage, smoking 'light' or low-tar cigarettes is not any better for your lungs. Cig filters do not stop the radiation.

[jadeius]

600 times more nicotine in mj than tobacco....but nicotine can only be studied as a gas, so it's really hard to tell...that number could have come from a thousand different places...and i could be a different number, and it varies on who grows it and how it's grown and all that....I really didn't know all that about the polonium though....that's really news to me....if anything makes you wanna fucking quit smoking, that does...thanks guys, that's my learn for the day...

[Trychs]

I believe it is the tar content thats used when they say this "x" times worse for you than cigarettes. I read recently though that this is based on the amount of tar found in the large fan leaves not in the actual buds that we all love to smoke.
The tar levels in the bud are meant to be only one third of that found in tobacco I think but whether I could find the link again is another question. :o

[jadeius]

the tobacco companies have proved a million times over that they will never clear their name...they've ruined natural pleasures for everyone...that's why I hope they never get marijuana in their hands in a legal form...they'll find a way to make it kill you or make you more addicted to it....i had to write a long-term research on tobacco companies and their bullshit...you really get disgusted after so much reading about them....

[Nullific]

600 times more nicotine in mj than tobacco
Where are you getting this from?

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_info3.shtml

[stonerboy40k]

Overall i would say tobbaco but in the longrun weed is still pretty harmfull - but worth it

[Nullific]

It doesn't seem possible to me that cannabis contains any nicotine let alone 600 times more nicotine than tobacco.

Here is my reasoning, lets say the average cigarette contains 1mg of nicotine (some brands have more, some less) if marijuana did in fact have 600 times that amount it would mean the equivalent weighing joint would contain 600mg of nicotine. This is 10 times the human lethal dose. (60mg)

[ermitonto]

I would think it would also be hundreds of times more addictive than heroin as well.

[jadeius]

you know, i don't really remember where that came from, but i just remember hearing it over and over, it could have been some stupid "drugs are bad mmkay" propaganda for all i know...i've smoked way too much pot since then...but right, it doesn't make much sense when you think about it...

[F L E S H]

Yeah, this whole nicotine in marijuana thing is really sketchy, I don't believe it at all. You don't get the same feeling from smoking cigs and joint at all, and like Null said, just do the math, it doesn't make any sense.

[Reefer Rogue]

There's no nicotine in cannabis.

[dopy420]

nicotine in buds doesn't sound right. if weed did have nicotine it would be physically addictive like cigarettes which it isn't.

[cortezbuddha]

Only chupacabras smoking weed sniff nicotine in Gary Busy's house... There is NO nicotine in marijuana. Go to that erowid site that was posted earlier, read some scientific shit, be enlightened.

[Bwueh]

tabacco is worst for u weed is natural

[Sensi Super Skunk]

Just because somrthing is natural, doesn't mean that it is safe. Note: Cannabis is not harmful, other than the fact that it is usually smoked.

[Dutchmaster]

tobbaco smoke has so many bad thing added to it it must be worse haha

[boywonder]

That is true, but there have been reports that the amount of hits people take from bongs increases because each hit lacks the amount of potentcy as smoking out of a pipe or joint would, thus causeing the user to smoke more ( of harmeful and non harmfuel chemicals) to ge the same effect.

noway! bongs are alot more potent then spliffs

[ermitonto]

tabacco is worst for u weed is natural
Well, do you think the tobacco plant was created in a laboratory? That's natural too, but when you grow it with radioactive fertilizers and put in all sorts of additives and shit that's when you're fucking with people's health. And also, natural does not necessarily mean safe. Remember, poison ivy is natural too.

[kyle]

Well, do you think the tobacco plant was created in a laboratory? That's natural too, but when you grow it with radioactive fertilizers and put in all sorts of additives and shit that's when you're fucking with people's health. And also, natural does not necessarily mean safe. Remember, poison ivy is natural too.

By 'natural' I think he means not chemically enhanced by man, and by man I mean; heartless, money centered white-coats whos job is too slowly destroy humanity and make it look like an accident. But anyway, like ermitonto said "natural does not neccessarily mean safe/good." But in the case of Marijuana and Tobacco, Marijuana is definately less physically harmful because it has'nt been 'treated' and manipulated. Now, Marijuana is more mentally harmfull because it fucks with your mind - A.K.A. The high! That can make some people feel like shit or be depressed or blah-blah-blah. No I'm not feeding you goverment propaganda. Anyway, smoke on and don't worry about it. It's fun, it opens up your mind and has few consequences, to me - its worth it.

[narkotic]

lol. interesting to see the boys try to fight through so many fallicies

ignorance is bliss

[supersonicchronic]

Theres no way theres nicotine in bud, because I use to smoke a pack a day, and when I quit I was a fucking a-hole. But after the addiction went away I was cool, and I was smoking buds the whole time

[Hektik]

Cigz are way worse for you str8 up.- Coming from a chainsmoker

[jadeius]

try having the worst case of acid reflux disease your doctor has ever seen and still chain smoke menthols...i'm definitely gonna say cigarettes are worse and a thousand times yuckier, kinda ironic coming from a chain smoker...

good comments peeps