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manilaboy1vic
07-07-2010, 05:59 AM
Hi...... i am a outdoor grower and have done some research but still need expert opinions.....


my plants are in a spot that is somewhat shady in the morning.. i would not say they get 12hrs of sun beating on them a day.. but they are growing nicely....

do i need to induce a photoperiod?? ex. cover them at 6:30pm and unconver them at 6:30am??


i dont want the plants to get too huge either...

here are some pics... should i begin flowering the bigger one now??? should i cut off some of the leaves that are the size of my hand?? Where to cut them??


also there a few leafs that are kinda yellow... should i trim the yellow off??


also should i start thinning my onions ;) hahaha....

Thanks

StickyBuds1987
07-07-2010, 04:21 PM
Hi...... i am a outdoor grower and have done some research but still need expert opinions.....


my plants are in a spot that is somewhat shady in the morning.. i would not say they get 12hrs of sun beating on them a day.. but they are growing nicely....

do i need to induce a photoperiod?? ex. cover them at 6:30pm and unconver them at 6:30am??


i dont want the plants to get too huge either...

here are some pics... should i begin flowering the bigger one now??? should i cut off some of the leaves that are the size of my hand?? Where to cut them??


also there a few leafs that are kinda yellow... should i trim the yellow off??


also should i start thinning my onions ;) hahaha....

Thanks

well man whats the biggest you want them to get and no leave the leaves on there they help the plant get its energy/food they will fall off later own when its time to harvest

manilaboy1vic
07-07-2010, 11:35 PM
i guess im gonna get a little bigger.. maybe about 3 or 4 foot tall..

then start the flowering process.... will it flower natrually tho??

manilaboy1vic
07-08-2010, 12:33 AM
i attempted LST on one of these guys.. i really hope i didnt F it up,

that looks like crap.. we'll how it handles it.

LetsSeeYa
07-08-2010, 12:51 AM
i guess im gonna get a little bigger.. maybe about 3 or 4 foot tall..

then start the flowering process.... will it flower naturally tho??

Well first no pulling leaves as they are going to build your buds for ya. And the pots you have will be root bound in no time. If the get tall just bend them over. Hell i put one in the ground sideways to get better branch budding. If they get tall you can hide them easy. Maybe fim them as this will help them not get tall, but bushy with multiple colas. I got 7 last year.

If you could put them into the ground some night and let nature do its thing, im sure you would have a better harvest. If they are only getting the direct light like you said, they will flower faster then one getting 12 hours. As the season ends the light cycle is shorter, which makes the plant think its getting to fall and flower to catch pollen.

Id fill out those pots and re pot into 5gal buckets and fim them. Yield would be good and they will stay short. It will work bro, here is one i grow in a grow tray, but after i took the colas. I think this tray is less then 5 gal of space, so a 6 gal bucket would work great. When ya re pot, just put the plant in sideways, this will help you grow it along the ground, its easy. Just stake it down by tyeing the top and bend down to the ground and tie it to something. If ya look at my thread here, you can see how i put one in sideways. It came outta a 5 gal bucket, but was root bound.


good luck man, im here for advise too


:rasta:


:rasta:

manilaboy1vic
07-08-2010, 01:25 AM
i got a LST kick and actually creased the big one near the bottom.. i can smell it on my hand.. and i tried to make it straight a couple times.. omfg... finally i put a stake in and zip tied the top part.... wtf did i just do.. i hope it makes it thru it.. F*CK

StickyBuds1987
07-08-2010, 01:32 AM
if this is your first time growing and seeing as you only have 2 plants id just try out topping and fimming then like next grow try LST and stuff

manilaboy1vic
07-08-2010, 01:53 AM
First time. My title says n00b. Too late creased da big one.

Hope shes ok. It's pretty big. Can't imagine she won't heal. Although I may have fd up. There are a lot of nodes. Hope those make it. Grrrrrr.

StickyBuds1987
07-08-2010, 03:55 AM
First time. My title says n00b. Too late creased da big one.

Hope shes ok. It's pretty big. Can't imagine she won't heal. Although I may have fd up. There are a lot of nodes. Hope those make it. Grrrrrr.

what do ou mean by creased

manilaboy1vic
07-08-2010, 05:41 AM
what do ou mean by creased


like snap sound kinda.. but in tact on one side... bleeding on the other.. near the base. full buzzkill... im devistated.

deserthealer
07-08-2010, 06:29 AM
You might try wrapping a piece of papertowel around the stem where it broke to help support it while it heals. It might pull through.... if not, start over. Good luck! Eventually, you'll be :rastasmoke:

manilaboy1vic
07-08-2010, 06:36 AM
You might try wrapping a piece of papertowel around the stem where it broke to help support it while it heals. It might pull through.... if not, start over. Good luck! Eventually, you'll be :rastasmoke:

should i keep it tilted over... i really dont wanna keep bending at this point.

manilaboy1vic
07-08-2010, 06:42 AM
i put paper towel around it.. its such a healthy plant.. i hope its sunny tomorrow..

its like this gone bad:

LST training in detail. Why bushes are better - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=6090)

LetsSeeYa
07-08-2010, 04:24 PM
i put paper towel around it.. its such a healthy plant.. i hope its sunny tomorrow..

its like this gone bad:

LST training in detail. Why bushes are better - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=6090)

Mine where like that before, they will be fine man, i would wrap it with masking tape. And yes id keep it bent, but let it up a bit till it heals. When ya bend em ya just need to go half way. Then bend em more, if they bow like ya said, the tape will fix them man.

Your good bro, they can take so much at this stage trust me man:thumbsup:

:rasta:

manilaboy1vic
07-09-2010, 12:01 AM
Mine where like that before, they will be fine man, i would wrap it with masking tape. And yes id keep it bent, but let it up a bit till it heals. When ya bend em ya just need to go half way. Then bend em more, if they bow like ya said, the tape will fix them man.

Your good bro, they can take so much at this stage trust me man:thumbsup:

:rasta:

here is a pic of my debacle, see the paper towel.. im really kinda scared to futz with it anymore...

im such a n00b.. but call me crazy the leafs in the middle seem greener or perky?

dont laugh too hard.. first plant, first lst attempt :(

truepunk87
07-09-2010, 12:09 AM
hey bro....aint no one gonna laugh. i been growing almost 8 years now and i still do some dumb shit. but hey, for a first plant u doing a damn good job. keep it up:thumbsup:

Sensimilla420
07-09-2010, 12:29 AM
yeah that plant looks pretty healthy in my opion lol just watch it and pray. :rasta:

LetsSeeYa
07-09-2010, 01:03 AM
here is a pic of my debacle, see the paper towel.. im really kinda scared to futz with it anymore...

Its a weed remember man. You are fine man, the plant looks great:thumbsup:
im such a n00b.. but call me crazy the leafs in the middle seem greener or perky?



dont laugh too hard.. first plant, first lst attempt :(

If the towel is wet im sure the plant is taking in the water and making the smaller leaves green:)

You will never learn in less ya try man:rasta:

manilaboy1vic
07-09-2010, 01:12 AM
Its a weed remember man. You are fine man, the plant looks great:thumbsup:
im such a n00b.. but call me crazy the leafs in the middle seem greener or perky?




If the towel is wet im sure the plant is taking in the water and making the smaller leaves green:)

You will never learn in less ya try man:rasta:

the wet towel makes sense... thanks for the uplifting support :jointsmile:

StickyBuds1987
07-09-2010, 03:54 AM
yeah man i would not worry i have seen someone on here break there plant in half like right in tha middle they put some tape around it and it kep growing until harvest they are a weed the plant looks healthy so she should spring back for ya good luck man :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

manilaboy1vic
07-10-2010, 02:53 AM
yeah man i would not worry i have seen someone on here break there plant in half like right in tha middle they put some tape around it and it kep growing until harvest they are a weed the plant looks healthy so she should spring back for ya good luck man :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

its def broke near the bottom, but this plant seems to be thriving.... has teh will to live... when i germinated my seeds this one sprouted big right from the start..... she wants to grow... i figure if the little leafs start getting weak , ill just put another soaked paper towel on that break :)

im still a little worried but she seems ok..

deserthealer
07-10-2010, 03:32 AM
she seems ok..
ya, she seems very much ok.. :smokin:

LetsSeeYa
07-10-2010, 04:22 PM
its def broke near the bottom, but this plant seems to be thriving.... has teh will to live... when i germinated my seeds this one sprouted big right from the start..... she wants to grow... i figure if the little leafs start getting weak , ill just put another soaked paper towel on that break :)

im still a little worried but she seems ok..

No man like i said put masking tape around it so it can pull from the roots or it will not feed the whole plant man. Plus its a one time fix as it will heal up and just leave a knot there, but will not affect the plant. But putting the wet paper towel was a temp fix, tape her and your done. You dont want the rest of the plant to not get any food or water now, or it will shock the plant. I understand its looking ok now, but later is when you want it to look good.

SeeYa:rasta:

StickyBuds1987
07-10-2010, 04:56 PM
yean man listen to LSY he has you all set

manilaboy1vic
07-10-2010, 05:51 PM
Ok. I'll put some masking tape on it when I get home. At work now.

How long do I leave the tape on? Just wrap it a couple times. Tightly?

manilaboy1vic
07-11-2010, 12:25 AM
tape job complete....

where has the sun been here in socal.. . its been june gloom all the way thru july now..

LetsSeeYa
07-11-2010, 01:59 PM
tape job complete....

where has the sun been here in socal.. . its been june gloom all the way thru july now..

Good job man:thumbsup:, they are still getting sun even tho the clouds are around. Might help with and stress your plant might have too. But in veg they can got thought so much. A friend went to check his plant and all the leaves were gone, but last he checked, they grew back. So trying these methods is good, but before its best to have someone guide ya through. Your always welcome to post in my thread when your ready for something.

Keep er green bro:weedpoke:

:rasta:

manilaboy1vic
07-14-2010, 10:52 PM
hey LSY.... do i have to take the tape off sometime???

StickyBuds1987
07-14-2010, 11:08 PM
yeah i woul think that you would have to take it off at some point cuz the stalk is gonna get thicker

boulderbud5525
07-14-2010, 11:33 PM
wrap that bad boys break with duct tape and your done. i flowered at 6ft x 6ft bush that was so heavy with colas it was breaking off the branches. i just duct taped them all up and 4 weeks later the bounty! LSY is spot on with the masking tape but duct tape will hold up better outside. Peace:jointsmile:

Stomper420
07-15-2010, 01:46 AM
It will be fine boss. But keep in mind LST stands for Low Stress Training....LOL Not HIGH STRESS TRAINING:D

Keep us informed with pics please shes a good looker:rastasmoke:

manilaboy1vic
07-18-2010, 03:57 AM
i just need to know if the tape stays on permantly or do i remove the band aid??????.....

LetsSeeYa
07-23-2010, 02:36 PM
i just need to know if the tape stays on permantly or do i remove the band aid??????.....

Just leave it man, the stock of the plant will just keep growing and it might fall off, but if it doesnt no big deal. Just leave it to nature. Your good bro:hippy:looking nice too.:)




:rasta:

manilaboy1vic
07-27-2010, 01:32 AM
here is from two days ago..

i have two:

the slow grower, i suspect is sativa..?

this bushy one is indica?

:)

manilaboy1vic
07-27-2010, 02:37 AM
heres the sativa suspect...


the leaves are burning off in the sunny socal sun

manilaboy1vic
08-03-2010, 05:04 PM
i think one is starting to flower.. cant tell if its male or female tho.....

best pic i can get for now... camera phone

manilaboy1vic
08-04-2010, 12:31 AM
i think one is starting to flower.. cant tell if its male or female tho.....

best pic i can get for now... camera phone

are those pistils and sacks? hermaphadite?