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MrSaRgEnT
05-30-2010, 10:54 PM
Right im a complete Newb n i jus want sum advice with my first grow. im using a 250w MH and they are 41 days old, Should i induce flowering ?? thanks
420session
05-30-2010, 11:06 PM
Right im a complete Newb n i jus want sum advice with my first grow. im using a 250w MH and they are 41 days old, Should i induce flowering ?? thanks
Switching them to flower is sometimes judged by yield expectations and grower space- know your plant will possibly grow atleast double the size it is now. Im sure you will get good tips in here as there is alot of weed gurus.
bigsby
05-30-2010, 11:29 PM
Depends on your space and expectations. But as this is your first run I say, yes. Flip the lights.
drudown11
05-30-2010, 11:42 PM
flip the switches on them bitches(well, we hope)
12/12. You should know sex within two weeks.
That big one on the left is gunna stretch andget pretttttyyyy tall though.
drudown11
05-30-2010, 11:45 PM
also...............you can see someone in the background of that picture. Next time be a little more careful, you never know who the fuck could be lurking on these sites. just letting ya know
MrSaRgEnT
05-31-2010, 09:45 AM
ok thanks guys. 1 more thing could any1 tell me why 1 of them in double the size of the other, considering ther both exactly the same age ??. Also i have what it looks like pistils coming out of each section or bud site.
There starting to cross over one-another, sort of like a X. What does this mean
drudown11
05-31-2010, 04:19 PM
Both of them will at least double during flower. The cannabis plant stretches during flowering. Node spaces get bigger, stems elongate, and tall plants can shoot to uncontrollable heights if left untrained.
Both plants are going to stretch, the bigger one is just gunna stretch more.
MrSaRgEnT
05-31-2010, 04:38 PM
thanks drudown11 but that doesn't really answer my question mate
drudown11
05-31-2010, 04:53 PM
ok thanks guys. 1 more thing could any1 tell me why 1 of them in double the size of the other, considering ther both exactly the same age ??. Also i have what it looks like pistils coming out of each section or bud site.
There starting to cross over one-another, sort of like a X. What does this mean
when using seeds there is going to be some genetic variathon among the plants. Some may be tall than others, some may have wider lieaves, some may turn purple during flower. t\
Or it could be that the small plant got stunted or stressed in one way or another.
Your going to have to post a picture of the pistils in so we can get a good look at it. Hopefully, you have a female on your hands. Male pollen sacks looks like clusters of balls. Female pistils should have hairs coming out of the creating a V shape out of the pistil.
Ill post a diagram that should help you determine the sex
MrSaRgEnT
05-31-2010, 05:01 PM
when using seeds there is going to be some genetic variathon among the plants. Some may be tall than others, some may have wider lieaves, some may turn purple during flower. t\
Or it could be that the small plant got stunted or stressed in one way or another.
Your going to have to post a picture of the pistils in so we can get a good look at it. Hopefully, you have a female on your hands. Male pollen sacks looks like clusters of balls. Female pistils should have hairs coming out of the creating a V shape out of the pistil.
Ill post a diagram that should help you determine the sex
thanks mate i think the STIPULES in the diagram is what i have coming out. What are those ??
oh im using terra vega n terra flours. Will this do fine ??
Thanks in advance
wolf41128
05-31-2010, 05:57 PM
HI ALL JUST STARTED GROWING WHITE RINO 4 FIRST TIME I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT IT WILL REQIURE LOTS OF PLANT FOOD IS THIS TRUE AND IF SO WHAT FEED AND HOW MUCH ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
420session
05-31-2010, 08:41 PM
HI ALL JUST STARTED GROWING WHITE RINO 4 FIRST TIME I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT IT WILL REQIURE LOTS OF PLANT FOOD IS THIS TRUE AND IF SO WHAT FEED AND HOW MUCH ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
Come on, man- don't try to steal a thread. Start your own thread with a more specific question! Do your homework and post what exactly your working with- strain, lights, nutes, system, etc(search feature is real helpful and READ threads) You will find help just like mr.sargent, just post, chill/have a session, and you will find some help:thumbsup: but yeah start with 1/4 strength and work your way up over time because too many nutes can cause nute lock and lead to the destruction of your future harvest, just be patient with your plant and let nature do it's thing.
Peace
MrSaRgEnT
06-01-2010, 01:16 PM
when using seeds there is going to be some genetic variathon among the plants. Some may be tall than others, some may have wider lieaves, some may turn purple during flower. t\
Or it could be that the small plant got stunted or stressed in one way or another.
Your going to have to post a picture of the pistils in so we can get a good look at it. Hopefully, you have a female on your hands. Male pollen sacks looks like clusters of balls. Female pistils should have hairs coming out of the creating a V shape out of the pistil.
Ill post a diagram that should help you determine the sex
hi DRUDOWN11 here are the pics but there not that clear to see, but try make sense of it.
also there is a pic showing them under the hps, shud i get additional light for the undernieth or will it be cool ??. thanks in Advance.
killfrenzi
06-01-2010, 05:17 PM
Definently stipules. Like drudown said... In my opinion if you really wanna know sex, switch the light schedule to 12/12 for 2 weeks and when you start to see little pistils coming from next to where the stipules are you have a female, but if you start to see little sacks of balls chop that dude down, he could compromise the entire operation.
If you do have females your best bet would be to clone them and start a few new under veg. That way when you are ready for harvest, you have a few more to start flowering again.
I was a complete newb in 2007. I found a website called overgrow.com and subscribed to that site just before they were shut down. A few months later I found this glorious website and have been a member ever since. This website has the best members and information on the Net. If you need any advice for any kinda growing reason... This is the place.
Good Luck and I hope your grow is more successful than my fisrt... Take a look at my current grow and tell me what ya think.:
http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/184676-under-stairs.html
And if you havent already Here is DruDown's Thread:
http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/184543-1000w-hps-4-plant-grow-log.html
MrSaRgEnT
06-01-2010, 06:07 PM
KILLFRENZI
Nice setup man thats cool. Mine is nothing like that lol im new new new B lol.
Good luck with ur grow mate.
killfrenzi
06-01-2010, 06:16 PM
Sarge, you should go to home depot or lowes and purchase a couple sheets of stirofoam insulation and build a makeshift wall to help enclose your light around your plants. You are losing a lot of light into the room and it is not being directed towards the plant..... In other words, You are losing "Lumens"
Your plants would greatly benifit even if you were to spray paint a couple pieces of large cardborad flat white and use those as temporary walls... Anything to help reflect as much light back to the plants as possible.:jointsmile:
MrSaRgEnT
06-01-2010, 06:35 PM
killfrenzi As a matter of fact iv cut a big sheet of cardboard and put strips of tin-foil across the whole thing its now standing as u said infront of the plants. I did it the other day when i changed to the HPS, it makes a big difference and as u can see the wall it white behind the plants so its a massive inprovement. Would terra floues be sweet for the budding stage ???
PhatJay
06-02-2010, 11:10 AM
Get rid of the tin foil and paint that cardboard white or buy some mylar. Tin foil reflects heat and can create hotspots.
MrSaRgEnT
06-02-2010, 02:00 PM
ok whats mylar ??. i thourght the heat would have been a good thing. When u say hots spots, how do u mean because looking at the plants myself there's light almost everywhere no shadows at all, after having it there for a few days i checked the foil and it was stone cold no heat what so ever. Im going to check them tonight so il take sum more pics for you to see.
P.S will Terra Floues be COOL ???? cheers mate
killfrenzi
06-02-2010, 03:21 PM
Yes tera flours are a great nutrient; I have used in the past and was pretty pleased with the results. With the mylar, Mylar is very expensive and kinda hard to come by; Your best bet if you dont wanna paint, even though the flat whitepaint is the way to go.... Go to WalMart in the camping section you can find Emergency Camping Blankets for a $1.88 a sheet that will make 2 walls at least 4'x4' the whole sheet is like 81"x64". It would work perfectly and doesnt cost anything except couch money, pocket change, cup holder money? Ya know....
Good Luck and I hope you are getting the advice you need.
:rastasmoke:
MrSaRgEnT
06-02-2010, 03:55 PM
ok il give the painting the board white ago but as i said in the last post im gona check on them 2nite as they are not at home with me. 1 more thing mate im from uk we dont have wall-mart lol.
thanks for the good advice.
MrSaRgEnT
06-02-2010, 10:04 PM
Hi ppl the plants look pretty good. There are 4 days into flowering and the leaves at the top and sum at the bottom on both plants are starting to droop quite bad but mainly its the big 1... What is going wrong can any 1 help ?? i know what people say about using tin-foil and hot spots but it seems to work well . here are sum updated pics.
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