POUND PER PLANT

[cowgirl1]

OK folks lets have a real honest chaat here. I know some like to get on here and bs and make everyone think they are gods gift to growing marijuana. But for once lets put all the bs aside and if we do maybe all of us can learn something here.

We have all looked at the seed compaines and when reading there info they claim this seed or that seed is producing 500 grams per-plant while growing indoors.

However, when you talk to 99% of the people that have grown these plants or have read REAL posting by honest people it seems the yeilds are averaging 2 ounces with 4 ounce being above average. However, the seed compaines as I stated above talk about 500 grams which comes out to 31 ounces.

I am getting ready to start a new grow room. 10x10 with 2 1000w lights. Of course will have all the air flow, venting ect. I am going to limit my plant count in hopes of producing higher yields.

Please if you are not hitting a pound or close to it PLEASE do not post. Let be honest here and we can all learn from each other

So my real question is: Is anyone honestly getting the 500 gram per plant? If so please do share some insight as to how you are hitting a pound of buds per plant while growing indoors.

[killfrenzi]

Now im not gonna lie.... This is only my 3rd grow and I have 8 in veg under a 400w Mh, 2 guarantee'd 2 females, (Clones), the others are unknow bagseeds. Will be changing light regimen and spectrum to 13/11 under 1000w Hps. In a about 3 weeeks. My first grow was a loss, and my 2nd grow was micro. This grow i have space and great lighting.

From what I understand the more light the more the yield. I wouldnt go more than 10 plants under 2 1000w ers or light might not get to all areas of the plant. If there is any way you can add additional lights CFL or tube Floros for the walls, It would greatly bennefit your yield.


Take a look at this thread lots of good lighting info and how to calculate your yields based on lumens.

Good luck and I hope this thread helps: http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-lighting/140735-answers-about-cfl-hps-how-much-light.html :thumbsup:

[moody420]

Hey cowgirl! I've known alot of indoor growers and have never seen one pull 1lb off of an indoor grow! Outdoor, absolutely....but indoor, nope! I think the closet was my ex, but he vegged them for a long time, they were trees by the time he started flowering. I think the MOST he got was 1/2lb per plant. But usually only about 1/4lb, and like I said, he vegged for a LONG time....making harvest even farther away!

That's why SOG type setups are popular indoors. More plants, smaller size, and quick turn arounds. I'd say your average indoor plant is going to pull anywhere from 1/2oz to 2 oz. And that's pretty good. It all varies depending on strain and veg time....but in my experience, this is what I've seen.

Also, I wanted to note that 500g is just under 18oz. I never say never, but it is pretty unlikely that is ever going to come off of ONE indoor plant.

But on the bright side, with a 10x10 space and 2 1000w lights going....you can grow alot of plants and should be able to pull a very nice yeild! :jointsmile:

[bigsby]

If your concern is pulling weight the you are much better off with a continuous grow/harvest setup that vegs for shorter periods and therefore reaches maturity faster. You need to run a veg room to maximize this setup whereby you are moving plants from the veg room into the flower room on something approaching a bi-weekly or monthly basis. And thus you are also harvesting on a bi-weekly or monthly basis. Preferably you grow SOG or SCROG style, although SCROG would be labor intensive with a grow this size.

It does take some time to get the cycles synced properly but once achieved you are off to the races. If you are running two HPS' then you could consider using one light for the larger / late flowering plants and one light for the smaller / early flowering plants.

The yield per plant is a bit smaller because the plant size is smaller but you run more grows over time. More grows will maximize the weight over time. Even if you don't run the continuous grow method (i.e. you veg all plants on the same schedule) you are still better off running shorter grow cycles.

Search for "continuous harvest" and you will find detailed setup advice.

[drudown11]

The seed companies are saying that because they want you to buy their product. I came across a seed company charging 500$ for 10 seeds/ They also claimed a crazy high THC content, something like 50%. Thats fucking ridiculous and its all a scam.

Have you ever seen any threads or grow logs bragging about 1 pound plants? No. Thats because even the most experienced growers on this site have trouble reacing those numbers. Outdoors, 1 pound per plant is definatly attainable. But indoors, I would have to see a grow log or pictures to actually believe it.

If this is your first time growing, dont expect to yield very much.


BTW There is sooooo muuuuuucccchhh more to getting 1 pound per plant than having 2000 watts of light. It would take monthes of veg time, LSTing, and topping.

[oldhaole]

The ad says plant will yield x amount. Gotta define yield. If you count stems ,branches, leaves and maybe even roots, sure the plant may "yield" a lb. But of course you get 4 ozs of smoke.

You are right though. They are pulling numbers out of their ass.

[GetThisOrDie]

Every seed ad ive seen states grams per m2... not grams per PLANT. Thats a yield that im sure they get from multiple plants stuffed into that given space. With maybe scrog and heavy lighting. And lets not forget that they make a living growing that shit so they probably can yield a bit better than the average joe. If you have a link showing your seeds with a yield PER PLANT and not a given area of grow space then please link it.

[SpaceNeedle]

Every seed ad ive seen states grams per m2... not grams per PLANT. Thats a yield that im sure they get from multiple plants stuffed into that given space. With maybe scrog and heavy lighting. And lets not forget that they make a living growing that shit so they probably can yield a bit better than the average joe. If you have a link showing your seeds with a yield PER PLANT and not a given area of grow space then please link it.

I've grown using 2 1000W HPS, 30 plants 4'x8' area, and have averaged 1 lb per 1000W.

I've grown using 4 600W HPS 40 plants 7'x8' and have averaged about the same per thousand, maybe a little better.

I only pick the shorter flowering periods, and flower 7 weeks. Hydroponics.

[KillerBudG]

Theses numbers you see are with perfect/optimal growing conditions. Having the strain dialed into your grow setup. An indoors the weight is for a Square meter not single plant. That is the yield you can achieve if everything is perfect environment for that strain in a 10-11 sq. foot grow area. Keep in mind that theses breeders have they own growing skills down pack with their strains. Out doors you could pull a lb. maybe 2 off 1 plant.
You will have to do massive training and a really long veg. to pull a lb off 1 plant imo. And after the time you are gonna spend you will be more efficent running a 8 week perpetual harvest. As you should start thinking the time you spend vegging and then flowering just to get a elbow from 1 plant it would be cheaper and more efficient to run multiple

~One~:rastasmoke:
~BudG~:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

[rockape76]

the seed company adds are for yield per metre squared, ie 500 grams per metre squared , usually grown sea of green method ie 100 plants growing just 5 grams a plant in a metre squared ,and usually using co2 injection and the best of lighting , yields of one gram per watt of lighting are possible with the correct techniques ,ie hydroponics ,topping,training and sea of green , some guys even pull these yields in organic soil.......(vancouver sealed rooms)
1000watts should be able to grow you more stash than you ever need

[throatstick]

the seed company adds are for yield per metre squared, ie 500 grams per metre squared , usually grown sea of green method ie 100 plants growing just 5 grams a plant in a metre squared ,and usually using co2 injection and the best of lighting , yields of one gram per watt of lighting are possible with the correct techniques ,ie hydroponics ,topping,training and sea of green , some guys even pull these yields in organic soil.......(vancouver sealed rooms)
1000watts should be able to grow you more stash than you ever need

this is true....

[throatstick]

but i have to disagree abit on the 1lb per plant thing.i have seen dudes pull 3,4lbs and i believe the most on 1 plant is around 6/7 indoors.this is with 3 weeks veg from clone to!!!but the setup cost quite abit more than most have starting off around 14 1ks and so on.the system i use is quite a bit cheaper and i can pull 2lbs off of 2 and 3 plant grows without really trying with 1 month veg time.which is an avg veg time for most.here is a pic of 1 i flowered str8 from clone well once rooted clone i'll say "about 2/3 days veg".just because type of thing to see what i could do with no veg time.

ps and this is with a water problem"well" i have been fighting too so these are running at about 50% or less of what they should be doing...

[throatstick]

sent ya a rep too....

[throatstick]

opps thats 2 diffrent plants in the pics... the first pic i did more like a christmas tree type and the other one i trained abit diffrent.not really much training just a 1 time thing really.

[WashougalWonder]

The problem is space. To gain that kind of production the plant would have to be allowed to grow to full height. Takes up a trememdous amount of space.

Conversely, I grow for myself and my patient. I get one plant out a week, average 2 oz. Split with both of us and it is just the right amount. That way I always have fresh medicine.

It does start to deteriorate after a period of time, freezing is not good for it, vacuum packaging is best. So unless you smoke so much you will blow your lungs out in a couple years, or you are looking to sell commercially.

The perpetual garden is the way to go indoors

[K1LLER]

all the shops ive seen, doesn't claim 500grams per plant, its 500grm average per sqm..


1 plant should have space of 1ft.

1 m² = 10.7639 ft² OR 10 ft²

3000 lumens per sqft,

=10 plants with lumens of 30,000 of lights should yield around 364grams.. depends on the light, nutrients and whether the farmer is tight.

but if some people here are saying 2ounce per plant, then it will yield around : 560 grams.

so all figures are correct.

[dopet4h2c0]

take a look at shaggy2dope's grow he pulls mad buds like 2 pounds per plant with the giant 20 gallon bubbler system read it its on the bottom of this page im telling ya its sick hope that helps ya :thumbsup:

[killerweed420]

Dried and cured there is no one getting a pound perplant indoor. Otdoors? Absolutely its possible, but we're talking trees here no 3 foot indoor plants.
The average indoor plant gets 2 to 5 ounces of dried and cured bud. Some people want to count the whole plant or the plant while its untrimmed.

[throatstick]

Dried and cured there is no one getting a pound perplant indoor. Otdoors? Absolutely its possible, but we're talking trees here no 3 foot indoor plants.
The average indoor plant gets 2 to 5 ounces of dried and cured bud. Some people want to count the whole plant or the plant while its untrimmed.

i beg to differ sir,,,,these pulled 3lbs per plant indoors on 3 week veg.....not my grow but it is very doable if you have 15+k to drop into a room....

[GetThisOrDie]

Wow nice bushes! Not only do you have to spend crazy amounts like you said throatstick... but imagine the monthly bill on super rooms like that. Yikes!
I guess it all evens out since people like that are most likely selling it.

[420session]

Definitely not impossible. But the time involved is what people are not trying to commit to. Really gotta find that method that gets you your yields you are aiming for. I mean I know people who grow large amounts in a long time, however they always find improvement and run into issues that they have no choice but to look for other methods that work out better. But their is alot of factors to consider specifically experience. Regardless of the route you choose, efficiency might be what some require(some have patients that are in need....supply and demand)- in the otherhand you could possibly take all the time you need to veg and flower to get them results for something more commercial. Good luck and let us know what system works out best.:thumbsup:


Peace.

[WashougalWonder]

Let us look at this in a slightly different perspective. Sure, indoors, outdoors, under proper conditions, lighting, schedules, etc., it is achievable to get a pound of dry out of one plant.

The time it takes to grow one that much, the space it takes, the increased lighting it takes for full penetration, makes it unreasonable to grow so large indoors UNLESS it is not a perpetual growth, even then the increased cost is (to me) not worth it.

Conversely, if you are doing this to have a grow and then to not have to bother for a period of time...like a 3 month vacation or something, well then it may be necessary to do this.

The perpetual garden is much more pleasant to deal with. No large amounts of plants to harvest and trim, dry, cure, and preserve and risk degradation of the medicine. This type of garden gives you a consistent fresh supply.

To each their own, but when someone starts talking pounds, it sounds like a commercial operation, if so, go away and stop making the rest of us look bad.

[genuine]

I agree with benefits of continual grow. I also wonder of differing genetics. How do y'all possibly get 2 ounces per plant with only two week veg?

I am flowering 9 wks with 2 (600) HPS, plants that are kept as single stalks vs bush, that are put into flowering at 25 inches or so...yield about 10 grams. Lately I've been experiementing and keeping numbers of plants that were topped and trained into multi-branch bush. So far with added veg time and added space, I have not found the value. Less plants per M square, more work in veg, more issues of air flow, more soil/ nutes, more time in trim. Regardless of THAT experiment, how big is a plant that's only vegged for 2wks to then produce 2 ounces dry? Really need to know the strain and nute formula de miracle, please !!

Some of my strains are Cheese, power plant, Jack 47

[GetThisOrDie]

Wait what? If I am reading this right you start flowering at 25" tall with 1200w and you only yield 10g???

Correct me if im wrong please.

Thats mighty low man. Do you have a log of this?

[THContent]

See, you guys are missing the point.

Seed companies base those numbers on per square meter, or some other plotted figure. Since all plants vary depending on size etc, they use a formula per square meter to get those numbers, so basically within a 3 foot by 3 foot section you can hit those yields fairly simple. Ask them, they will explain it to you.

I do completely understand what the main poster is saying though, it is a misconception that most people don't realize until they go to harvest and end up with a max of 6 ounces/per plant.

The yield is based on a particular area, squared. Hopefully that is about as honest as you can get. Obviously they wanna sell a product, so they aren't going to advertise 4 ounces per plant, when other companies advertise 400-600g.

[Bartec]

i have 15 k to invest can u help me?? with a list of things i would need .. and every thing u do ??

[drudown11]

i have 15 k to invest can u help me?? with a list of things i would need .. and every thing u do ??

fuck no!

[bigsby]

I'm between consulting gigs at the moment. I have 10 days before I hit the road again. My rates are $550 / day. Message me if you want to draw up a contract.

[therealOG]

if you want wieght you must generate C02 indoors also its about trimming............more gardens = more weed thats how it worked form me anyways

[hardroc]

The seed company's say that many grams per meter, cause they're talking about OPTIMUM conditions.
Not too many growers have those conditions, so they get mad at the breeders, and for what? Cause they don't have the means or the skill?
It's very obtainable though, you just have to have a few vertical 1000's floating around the plant with a 3-4 month veg and a good strain

[Bartec]

real mature ther big guy.. real mature

[bigsby]

Damn Dru this system won't let me rep you again but I would if I could. What he said.

[khyberkitsune]

Guess I need to 'weigh in'

Vertical lighting + CO2 in a Krusty Bucket.

10 plants? You could do EIGHT with a single 1000 in the center of them all and get a MAD yield.

Picture included.

Also - this is heavily strain dependent. You won't do that with White Widow, I guarantee it.

[drudown11]

Guess I need to 'weigh in'

Vertical lighting + CO2 in a Krusty Bucket.

10 plants? You could do EIGHT with a single 1000 in the center of them all and get a MAD yield.

Picture included.

Also - this is heavily strain dependent. You won't do that with White Widow, I guarantee it.



Jesus Christ Khyber you could kill a man with those Colas!

[khyberkitsune]

Jesus Christ Khyber you could kill a man with those Colas!

You know it. Get clubbed by the cola! I wish I grew that.

[natrensland]

ok ive almost gottin a pound out of one plant but it will take ALOT OF PATTIENCE AND TIME. I LET MINE VEG FOR ALMOST 4 MONTHS INDOORS AND TOPED THE SHIT OUT OF IT AND THEN SENT IT INTO FLOWERING AND I GOT ALMOST A POUND I WAS SHY 3 OUNCES BUT IT IS POSSIBLE IF U HAVE NOTHING BUT TIME AND PATTIENCE LOL I WONT DO IT AGAIN THOUGH

[drudown11]

First plant was 11 ounces dry.


Second plant is 10 ounces dry.



2 1/2 monthes veg, 1250 watts MH/HPS



thats the closest ive came so far.

[shaggytodope]

I dont understand why nobody wants to believe that they can get way more than this 500 grams per plant indoors. First of all 2000 watts in a 10x10 room is now way near enough light. In my opinion 60 watts per square foot is minimum with 100 watts per square foot being the max you would see any benefit from. Anything over 60 watts would only benefit with co2 enrichment. I have had no problem getting 2 pounds per plant indoors and have had 3 pounders many times! seed bank yields are a joke! I have a powerplant right now outdoors that every breeder description I read said would be a 3 foot tall max plant, it is 12 feet tall and 11 feet wide as of today. One thing for certain is most people dont use enough light to make solid heavy buds. Think about it, how many watts per square foot do you think would be equal to the sun? Doubt its possible to achieve that much light indoors. My buddy gets 3 pounds per light in a SOG setup religiously with many different strains, the SAGE being the easiest to do it with. 3 pounds from a 4x4 foot section of the garden, YES! but its a sealed CO2 enriched perfect garden. I have seen outdoor plants yield 10 pounds so why does everyone grow 4 ounce plants indoors, surely you can get 1/5 the outdoor yield. Dont believe it if you dont want to but I SWEAR IT! Look at The old Krusty grows, then check out my older thread called GIANT BUBBLERS. please stop your foolishness and see the light!

[stbwolfe]

On my first and second grow I had a pure sativa (no strain name) that yielded 8 oz per plant.... but also took 14 weeks to flower! I grew her a few times and let her go! Now my plants go into flower at about 24 inches and yield 2-4 ounces per plant w/out co2 (which I added for my current grow!). It is totally strain dependent.... I have some strains that easily yield 2x that of some others, but the quality is typically better on my smaller yield strains. SOG and scrog are the only way to go to get big yields indoors... and plenty of 1000 watters!!

[rudy2010]

Buy the 20 acres next to mine and make terraces then use 300 gal smart pots filled with fox farms blended with other enhancements. Water 10 to 30 gallons per day average. Oingo boingo two pound plus plants.:smokin:

[bcguy01]

what is your setup in this pic?

[Darinmb]

Ok, here is what you do. First off, you are only going to get 1..... maybe 2 plants under each light. Second, you need a hood big enough to give light to the entire plant (Magnum XXXL or bigger). Third, COCO FIBER is the medium you grow in!!!!!!!!! Weather it is House and Garden (Expensive), Botanicare's Ready Grow (Medium and really good), or Botanicare's COCOGRO, that cheap compressed brick.... Grow in COCO FIBER!!!! Fourth, feed every day. Unless you are flushing your plants at the end of the cycle, you shouldn't ever give strait water. Get a TDS (total dissolved solids) meter, that way, after you go to the website of the fertilizer you are using and find out how rich to make your nutrient solution, you can measure your solution and make sure you are not going to burn your plants. Now your nutrient solution, you need a base. Your base is your core fertilizer, and most all of them are pretty good. Personally I use Supernatural's Bloom Terra because it is pretty cheap and PH buffered so when I add amendments to my solution my PH doesn't go crazy. You should experiment a little and find what works best for you. Then you need a PK booster. Fertilizers are rated for NPK(N=nitrogen, P=phosphorous, K=potassium). In the veg cycle plants need more nitrogen for vigorous stem and node growth, the node is your bud site. In the bloom cycle plants need more phosphorous and potassium for flower growth, buds are flowers. Again, I use Supernatural's Bud Blaster, for the same reason as before. Then a nice calcium/magnesium supplement should be added, Botanicare makes a good one called CalMag, it also has an iron supplement in it too. Take it or leave it, but I add a silica supplement too. The silica can give some added stem strength to help hold up those heavy flowers, but mostly it adds a little bit of insurance for you. If you do something to stress out your plants, the silica will help to buffer that so the affects of the stress are not so bad. Since COCO is so very sterile you need to add some beneficial bacteria and fungus to the mix too. The Piranha and Tarantula products from Advanced Nutrients are amazing but very expensive (around $200/lb). Great White Shark is a really good beneficial blend too, House and Garden recommends you use it with their products. A pretty good bang for your buck is OregonIZM, at around $40/lb and still has many beneficial bacteria and fungus strains. Finally add some sugar, your plants need carbohydrates. Alot of people use a sweetener like Bud Candy, or Superlicious, or Sweet, or BananaRama, etc. and they are all good products. Something as simple as Carboload from Advanced Nutrients works great. Keep in mind, this nutrient solution that I've described here is for the bloom cycle. For the veg cycle all you really need is a good veg base nutrient, the beneficial bacteria and fungus, and maybe some silica. Again measuring your TDS to make sure your solution is not too rich (HOT). Getting a big reservoir to mix enough nutrients for a week or more is a pretty good idea too as long as you don't let evaporation make your solution to rich. Also setting up an auto watering system is a really great idea too because letting your plants get thirsty can be very detrimental.

Now that you have your light, hood, COCO, and your nutrient solution, you need some techniques to try. First, when you plants are about 6 to 8 inches tall and have at least 4 good branches at least an inch long it is time to top them. Topping is simply cutting off the very top of your plant. I like to make my cut about half way in between two branches, about an inch down from the top of the plant, that way your new top two branches will not try to dominate one an other too much. Now veg under a Metal Halide light for as long as it take to get you plant to the height you want. Depending on your ceiling height, 4 to 6 feet tall from the floor is pretty good. As your plants are growing, you should bend the main branches over some what... get them used to growing out, not just up because when they get to the bloom cycle they are going to get tied down. Now that your plants are tall enough and you are ready to switch to bloom there are some things to know. The main top of the plant, known as the kola, does not need to be at the top of the plant. Let your plants grow in the bloom cycle for a week or two then you are going to pull the top of the top branches off the the side, letting light down into the middle of the plant. This will cause your lower branches, that would normally grow out to the side, to start growing up toward the light. You will still get a nice kola, but all of those satellite branches will now also have nice kola sized tops to them too.

That should get you by for now. Good luck.

[cannabissativa666]

Let us look at this in a slightly different perspective. Sure, indoors, outdoors, under proper conditions, lighting, schedules, etc., it is achievable to get a pound of dry out of one plant.

The time it takes to grow one that much, the space it takes, the increased lighting it takes for full penetration, makes it unreasonable to grow so large indoors UNLESS it is not a perpetual growth, even then the increased cost is (to me) not worth it.

Conversely, if you are doing this to have a grow and then to not have to bother for a period of time...like a 3 month vacation or something, well then it may be necessary to do this.

The perpetual garden is much more pleasant to deal with. No large amounts of plants to harvest and trim, dry, cure, and preserve and risk degradation of the medicine. This type of garden gives you a consistent fresh supply.

To each their own, but when someone starts talking pounds, it sounds like a commercial operation, if so, go away and stop making the rest of us look bad.

Dude you split TWO OUNCES between you and another guy, are you kidding? STOP MAKING THE REST OF US LOOK BAD? You are a moron, I literally made an account just so I could tell you how much of an idiot you are. Seriously, who the hell do you think is going to supply the world marijuana? YOU? Huh? Are you going to grow weed for everybody in the world? Do you know what a plant count is? Eh? Do you? No? Then be quiet already, growing large trees is the only way to pull big yields indoors when numbers are restricted. Until we are able to grow 300 plants per person by law, or grow outdoors legally, you're point of view is shallow.

[cannabissativa666]

Ok, here is what you do. First off, you are only going to get 1..... maybe 2 plants under each light. Second, you need a hood big enough to give light to the entire plant (Magnum XXXL or bigger). Third, COCO FIBER is the medium you grow in!!!!!!!!! Weather it is House and Garden (Expensive), Botanicare's Ready Grow (Medium and really good), or Botanicare's COCOGRO, that cheap compressed brick.... Grow in COCO FIBER!!!! Fourth, feed every day. Unless you are flushing your plants at the end of the cycle, you shouldn't ever give strait water. Get a TDS (total dissolved solids) meter, that way, after you go to the website of the fertilizer you are using and find out how rich to make your nutrient solution, you can measure your solution and make sure you are not going to burn your plants. Now your nutrient solution, you need a base. Your base is your core fertilizer, and most all of them are pretty good. Personally I use Supernatural's Bloom Terra because it is pretty cheap and PH buffered so when I add amendments to my solution my PH doesn't go crazy. You should experiment a little and find what works best for you. Then you need a PK booster. Fertilizers are rated for NPK(N=nitrogen, P=phosphorous, K=potassium). In the veg cycle plants need more nitrogen for vigorous stem and node growth, the node is your bud site. In the bloom cycle plants need more phosphorous and potassium for flower growth, buds are flowers. Again, I use Supernatural's Bud Blaster, for the same reason as before. Then a nice calcium/magnesium supplement should be added, Botanicare makes a good one called CalMag, it also has an iron supplement in it too. Take it or leave it, but I add a silica supplement too. The silica can give some added stem strength to help hold up those heavy flowers, but mostly it adds a little bit of insurance for you. If you do something to stress out your plants, the silica will help to buffer that so the affects of the stress are not so bad. Since COCO is so very sterile you need to add some beneficial bacteria and fungus to the mix too. The Piranha and Tarantula products from Advanced Nutrients are amazing but very expensive (around $200/lb). Great White Shark is a really good beneficial blend too, House and Garden recommends you use it with their products. A pretty good bang for your buck is OregonIZM, at around $40/lb and still has many beneficial bacteria and fungus strains. Finally add some sugar, your plants need carbohydrates. Alot of people use a sweetener like Bud Candy, or Superlicious, or Sweet, or BananaRama, etc. and they are all good products. Something as simple as Carboload from Advanced Nutrients works great. Keep in mind, this nutrient solution that I've described here is for the bloom cycle. For the veg cycle all you really need is a good veg base nutrient, the beneficial bacteria and fungus, and maybe some silica. Again measuring your TDS to make sure your solution is not too rich (HOT). Getting a big reservoir to mix enough nutrients for a week or more is a pretty good idea too as long as you don't let evaporation make your solution to rich. Also setting up an auto watering system is a really great idea too because letting your plants get thirsty can be very detrimental.

Now that you have your light, hood, COCO, and your nutrient solution, you need some techniques to try. First, when you plants are about 6 to 8 inches tall and have at least 4 good branches at least an inch long it is time to top them. Topping is simply cutting off the very top of your plant. I like to make my cut about half way in between two branches, about an inch down from the top of the plant, that way your new top two branches will not try to dominate one an other too much. Now veg under a Metal Halide light for as long as it take to get you plant to the height you want. Depending on your ceiling height, 4 to 6 feet tall from the floor is pretty good. As your plants are growing, you should bend the main branches over some what... get them used to growing out, not just up because when they get to the bloom cycle they are going to get tied down. Now that your plants are tall enough and you are ready to switch to bloom there are some things to know. The main top of the plant, known as the kola, does not need to be at the top of the plant. Let your plants grow in the bloom cycle for a week or two then you are going to pull the top of the top branches off the the side, letting light down into the middle of the plant. This will cause your lower branches, that would normally grow out to the side, to start growing up toward the light. You will still get a nice kola, but all of those satellite branches will now also have nice kola sized tops to them too.

That should get you by for now. Good luck.

Complete and utter bullshit...

[B-LO]

The 500 grams u are talking about is per m2 so per squared meters which means more then one plant.......

[Shovelhandle]

Hey 666 your barking at an old post. Thanks for bumping it though it was a good one, especially the first page. And welcome to The Cann.