Over-dilution, retest question

[SWIZ420]

My wife had to take a pre-employment screening the other day, and it came back diluted. We followed the dilution directions on this site, with 4000mg/day of creatine for a couple of days before, then aspirin, b-complex, and plenty of water the day of the test, per the instructions. She's on the heavy side (5'3" and 180), so I told her to drink more water than the directions, by a factor of about 1.5.

After the test, she reported strong auditory disturbances and tingling of the extremities - about a +3 on the Shulgin scale - so I'm pretty sure she had water intoxication. She'd been freaking out about the test and drinking too way much water for a few days, so that may have been a contributing factor. I got her some Pedialyte and she was okay within an hour or so.

She has to go in tomorrow for a retest. Here are our options as I see it:

1.) Substitute with my urine, as I haven't smoked since mid-February (I like to clean out every once in a while, for personal reasons). This seems like the best option to me, but she's squeamish about carrying around pee in a bottle, and is concerned that they'll watch her since it's a re-test.

2.) Dilute again with less water. Due to her high BMI, we're not sure how much water she should drink in order to pass.

3.) Use a commercial product like ProTox. To be honest, I'm a little concerned about the efficacy of any commercial product, as they all seem a little shady, and the consumer has little to no recourse if it doesn't work.

There are some really knowledgeable folks on here, so I'd really appreciate any guidance you could give.

Thanks!

P.S. Before somebody says it, no, she's not going to drink Certo. Thanks anyway. :pimp:

[killerweed420]

I'd keep it the dillution at about 30 ounces tomorrow, preferably gatorade.
How often did she smoke?
You can use your urine as long as you don't take any prescriptions.

[SWIZ420]

She's been a daily smoker (once a day, not all day long), up until a week ago.

[webdox]

If I am reading you correctly, she only took 4000 mg of creatine, that's only 4 grams. It's been a long time since I loaded (I sub exclusively now) creatine monohydrate that I had bought from GNC, but if I remember correctly it was 5 grams per serving and I could easily tolerate 5 servings a day for 3 days before the test. That's 25,000 mg a day x 3 days. She drank too much and loaded too little creatine.

I'd sub.

[killerweed420]

Yes for a heavy user subbing is the only alternative.

[SWIZ420]

Yeah, we went with the QuickFix 5.7, because while I've been clean for over 6 weeks, I'm usually a heavy smoker and have been jogging a lot lately, so I'm concerned I might still test positive.

Overnight shipping is fucking expensive, so I really hope it works. I'm amazed it doesn't smell like pee, though. I'll post up the results as soon as we have them; It's annoying to see all these people asking questions but not bothering to let everybody know how it went.

[killerweed420]

I've passed 15 times with QF so as long as the temp is right you'll be good.
Start shopping around locally for QF. My local smoke shop has it for $18

[loveblunts]

I've passed 15 times with QF so as long as the temp is right you'll be good.
Start shopping around locally for QF. My local smoke shop has it for $18


how do you hide it? and in wat?

[Deige]

how do you hide it? and in wat?

Couple pairs of tighty whiteys and tuck it right under your manhood.

[killerweed420]

how do you hide it? and in wat?
If the test is going to be within a couple hours I just nuke it and store it in my crotch. Its usuall stays in temp for about 3 hours with me.

[ChronicCloset]

Im no expert, but dress up very proffesionaly, I went in in Slacks and a formal shirt and no one ever suspected a thing, but the guy before me was dressed in his construction clothes (not dogging on construction, as I used to work it but we get dirty and wear old clothes) but it will draw attention to you. He had 3 old ladies watching him like a hawk while I walked up in that bitch and subbed out, then toked a joint on the ride home.

At least in my opinion it is an extreamly good idea to look exactly like the last person you would expect to sub, thought id mention it because alot of my friends aren't that smart and they've been caught lol

Edit: oh and practice with the temp, I didn't and nailed the temp anyways (probably because Im awesome, and I hadn't smoked yet) but I realized how unwise it was on the ride home as I could have f'ed myself and then had to pee dirty!

[SWIZ420]

Thanks for the advice, guys. We went with QF 5.7 and it worked great. Hiding it wasn't a problem, and the temp was right at 98.

After this, I don't think either one of us will every try to dilute again. I'm ordering 2 more bottles of QF to have around for emergencies. Unfortunately, I live in a state where you can't buy it at the head shop, so I'm stuck paying a ton for it online. Are there any websites that have it for cheaper?

Oh, and ChronicCloset - you're spot on about how to dress.

[loveblunts]

did u microwave it first? did she use any kind of handwarmers?
im just trying to figure out how to keep it within temp range.