LED GROW SHOW

[stra8outtaWeed]

these plants vegged for about 4 weeks before putting into the bloom room! i use fox farm ocean forest soil mixed 50/50 w/chunky coco coir..helps drainage and is stable with ph!

fed base nutes of botanicare pro-bloom soil and a few advanced nutrient products. i do give my girls bushmaster on day 1 or 2 of bloom only once at a rate of 3ml/gal

i should have trimmed more off of the bottoms before blooming as i have a jungle going on! i little tighter than i like it....still learning how these LED's grow bigger plants than HID lighting. I'll have to get some photos of transplanting...the root masses are incredibly increased! :stoned:

the first photos are at day 21

[stra8outtaWeed]

next!:jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

somebody called bullshit on me that these lights would not produce quality bud! :wtf:

[stra8outtaWeed]

switching trays while staking and tying everything up!:smokin:

[stra8outtaWeed]

here are some pics today!:jointsmile:

[GetThisOrDie]

Great job with those LEDs! I want to get some big LEDs like those but for now im stuck with my 90w and 660nm spotlight. What color is that middle red panel?

[stra8outtaWeed]

the middle ones are 2nd gens....80% 630nm 16% 460nm 4%warm white 3500k

i want to get some 80% 660nm 20% 460nm in a few months! :jointsmile:

[stankyskunk2112]

how many watts are each of those leds?

[stra8outtaWeed]

how many watts are each of those leds?

3w LED's ~150 watts per bar ;)

[superskunk1]

Real nice ladies :greenthumb:\
Goes to show what LED's can do...

I have been looking into them as supplemental lighting and now that i see these beautiful ladies i will have to look more into them.

Did you build those panels yourself or purchase them?

Thanks:jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

Real nice ladies :greenthumb:\
Goes to show what LED's can do...

I have been looking into them as supplemental lighting and now that i see these beautiful ladies i will have to look more into them.

Did you build those panels yourself or purchase them?

Thanks:jointsmile:

thanks bro!:rasta:

i like the power of the 3w LED's and the spread design over the "1w panels" or UFO lighting...it wasn't totally easy to pull my 2 1000w HPS out...took time to gain confidence or i should say if you watch your plants close enough they tell you what they like! :thumbsup:

[superskunk1]

Na Thank you for sharing this beautiful sight of an LED grow
and thanks for the reply I will try to keep up with this grow

[headshake]

looking good.

how many LED arrays are you running?


-shake

[stra8outtaWeed]

looking good.

how many LED arrays are you running?


-shake

i have 2 procyons and 1 WEX-C150 80%630nm 20%460nm in veg

i run 4 WEX-C150 5 band 50%660nm 10%630nm 10%600nm 20%460nm 10%3500k white and 2 WEX-C150 80%630nm 16%460nm 4%3500k warm white in my flower room.

thanks for looking:jointsmile:

[caregiver420]

Very, very nice LED garden, str8. I really want to expand the role of LEDs in my operation - this is inspiring.

[ForgetClassC]

somebody called bullshit on me that these lights would not produce quality bud! :wtf:

:jawdropper:

-C

[headshake]

i am still at a loss here. i see what they are doing, and it looks okay. but i've seen buds under an HID put on much more weight from day 20 'til day 40. that was under a 400W HPS. not to mention you are running 9 lights that cost $450+ a piece. i just don't see the savings or benefit as of right now.

9*450= $4050!!!!!! and i'm pretty sure the procyons cost more than $450 each.

i'm not knocking your grow, the plants look good. everything is straight. i'm just not ready to jump on the band wagon just yet. i mean if LEDs were the way to go EVERYONE would be using them. again, i think we are getting closer with the 3W LEDs. (are those wide or narrow skirt?)

if dealing with head is an issue i completely understand, but other than that i'm not ready to get rid of my HID just yet. not to mention, homemade arrays can be built MUCH cheaper!

i would love to play with some LEDs and do a side by side comparison. i'm the type that has to get my hands dirty, ya know?

keep up the good work my friend and keep pushing the envelope. eyes are starting to open.


-shake

[stra8outtaWeed]

i am still at a loss here. i see what they are doing, and it looks okay. but i've seen buds under an HID put on much more weight from day 20 'til day 40. that was under a 400W HPS. not to mention you are running 9 lights that cost $450+ a piece. i just don't see the savings or benefit as of right now.

9*450= $4050!!!!!! and i'm pretty sure the procyons cost more than $450 each.

i'm not knocking your grow, the plants look good. everything is straight. i'm just not ready to jump on the band wagon just yet. i mean if LEDs were the way to go EVERYONE would be using them. again, i think we are getting closer with the 3W LEDs. (are those wide or narrow skirt?)

if dealing with head is an issue i completely understand, but other than that i'm not ready to get rid of my HID just yet. not to mention, homemade arrays can be built MUCH cheaper!

i would love to play with some LEDs and do a side by side comparison. i'm the type that has to get my hands dirty, ya know?

keep up the good work my friend and keep pushing the envelope. eyes are starting to open.


-shake

i do have a fair amount invested...the procyons were more like $600 ea

if you are just looking at this current grow i left too much on the bottoms this grow...as i said still learning how to max the bloom...last run was really good quality :stoned:

i am saving an average of $200/mo in power and not replacing (2)1000w Hort's every other grow at approx $500/yr...1 year i have saved $2900 in costs that have to go out to keep the grow going irregardless and i do admire all of the folks that have built there own because LED's life is over 10 years of 12/12 and in that time that is $29000 of bulbs and power that i saved. :jointsmile:

i was in the same place you were shake~no worries! :hippy:

[headshake]

i hear ya loud and clear str8! again, i really can't wait to get my hands on some LEDs.

-shake

[ForgetClassC]

i do have a fair amount invested...the procyons were more like $600 ea

if you are just looking at this current grow i left too much on the bottoms this grow...as i said still learning how to max the bloom...last run was really good quality :stoned:

i am saving an average of $200/mo in power and not replacing (2)1000w Hort's every other grow at approx $500/yr...1 year i have saved $2900 in costs that have to go out to keep the grow going irregardless and i do admire all of the folks that have built there own because LED's life is over 10 years of 12/12 and in that time that is $29000 of bulbs and power that i saved. :jointsmile:

i was in the same place you were shake~no worries! :hippy:



Those are some solid figures, but again, with shake, I have nowhere near the funds to get 9 $450-$600 plus lights, but like my previous post, amazing nugs, definitely looks like a nice smoke.

-C

[stra8outtaWeed]

Those are some solid figures, but again, with shake, I have nowhere near the funds to get 9 $450-$600 plus lights, but like my previous post, amazing nugs, definitely looks like a nice smoke.

-C

thanks bro....it took me time..i did not get them all at once...i started by converting my veg side to LED first...depending on your needs after seeing a few who have built there own it really is not that expensive.....and in time the cost are recouped IF you get good LED's...the light brite models and etch-a-sketch ones are a waste of time and money. my big investment came when i decided to pull my 1000's out but i sold them on ebay for what 2 of the lights cost so i did some creative financing to do what i did. :jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

even though these are not the biggest buds i have grown...still very happy with the quality and density of them....i just left too much growth on the bottoms before flowering...my card was full:wtf: so i will get more photos later today! :jointsmile:

[superskunk1]

Looking real nice
:jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

here are a few more shots...:smokin:

[headshake]

looking damn fine! how long are you gonna let these run for?

-shake

[moody420]

Growing is an expensive hobby....it takes alot to get a good inital grow setup started. And it takes alot of money to maintain it.

I'm very interested in trying the LED lights....it makes sense, since it will save a huge amount on electricity and help immensely with heat issues especially in the summertime! I'll be starting another grow cycle in the middle of march....i'm hoping to start this time with an LED light....your pics are more than convincing! :jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

looking damn fine! how long are you gonna let these run for?

-shake

i am trying to decide....i am thinking of taking them down this sunday on day 56 for this batch....going to China in 3 weeks so that kind of crunches drying time to get this crop taken care of before i leave!


Growing is an expensive hobby....it takes alot to get a good inital grow setup started. And it takes alot of money to maintain it.

so true....but it is one of the few investments that do pay you back with good meds and a fulfilling hobby!

[Phunnyman]

Very, very impressive, I'm becoming more and more interested in the idea of LED's a little further down the road. Who are the more reputable manufacturers of these types of lighting? How rapidly does anyone think the technology will move this kind of lighting? Where and with what would you recommend someone begin using this kind of lighting in their grow rooms?

Thanks!
G

[stra8outtaWeed]

there are many manufacturers out there some good....some selling snake oil!

my first purchases were the procyon 100's~ i liked the information i found regarding Cree LED's before i purchsed...but they are small and about $600 each...i looked at the TI smart bar which is a good light according to articles i read in High Times but almost $1800 for 330w....ouch! eventually i found these lights and i put 450w of light for $1350 on each of my trays but i started using them just to grow with before using them in flower:jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

i pulled them out of the tray this morning and will begin chopping tomorrow:smokin:

the leaves are curled from flushing but you can still see how green they for 55 days....only 1 leaf i found is discoloring!

next pictures will be the trimmed buds hanging in the cabinet! :jointsmile:

[bickeybammer]

cant wait to see thos harvest pics ! thos plant look super green! but the buds look pretty mature :thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

this is the 3rd complete start to finish grow under LED's and i still have some learning to do on maxing my yield...i overwatered this time but still very happy with yield....just means i can do better! :smokin:

[irydyum]

Mmmm..... I wish I was in the land of the free to sample it with you man. Another bumper looking crop indeed. The funnyest part to me is, I can't tell what the hell anything looks like cause the LED's are so crazy. Can you take a pic of a nug under some white light?

You are probably so used to the spaceship lights you forget it looks foreign to us "old schoolers".

Just messing with you man:thumbsup:

What's the next project on the agenda? I'm gonna pull up one of the first seats on the next ride for sure!

[moody420]

always beautiful pics....very impressive! :jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

Mmmm..... I wish I was in the land of the free to sample it with you man. Another bumper looking crop indeed. The funnyest part to me is, I can't tell what the hell anything looks like cause the LED's are so crazy. Can you take a pic of a nug under some white light?

You are probably so used to the spaceship lights you forget it looks foreign to us "old schoolers".

Just messing with you man:thumbsup:

What's the next project on the agenda? I'm gonna pull up one of the first seats on the next ride for sure!

we got som more OG in the next tray...it is at 22 days right now!

i think the lights have screwed up my camera....it only takes a normal picture without the flash...i think it was the blue LEDs...i need a new camera anyway!

my next project is going to Beijing China in 2 weeks for my second round of stem cell injections....Spinal cord injury from snow skiing...so i am hoping but have doubts that this site will be accessible to me while i am in China...the crop will be tended to while i am gone....so i may be missing in action for about 3 weeks until i get back! :hippy:

but yeah i'll get a pic under some normal light:smokin:

[stra8outtaWeed]

always beautiful pics....very impressive! :jointsmile:

glad you approve miss 420

[stra8outtaWeed]

What's the next project on the agenda? I'm gonna pull up one of the first seats on the next ride for sure!

forgtot to mention i am putting a CO2 generator in...going to get it this week! :D

[irydyum]

I don't even know what to say, I feel like an ass for asking:( I hope everything goes as well as you can possibly dream of for you while you are gone. I'm sure I can speak for the majority when I say that we will truly miss you in your absence and will be sending all the positive karma we can muster your way. You have been nothing but a positive member to this community and we will be here waiting when you can return.

[ForgetClassC]

Same here man, hope you come back with positive results, stem cells are going to be a big part of the future, hopefully you can be one of the first who can benefit from this knowledge. And, upon return, you know those meds are going to be sah-weeet and ready for some tokin'. Best wishes. When you get back should have some nice flowers going on in my little cab.

-C

[stra8outtaWeed]

:thumbsup:i already have gotten benefits from the first treatment in October of 2008...so that is why i am going back....plus Chinese nurses are pretty cute! i'm not leaving until March 14th and back on April 8th :D

[khyberkitsune]

somebody called bullshit on me that these lights would not produce quality bud! :wtf:

I love it when people say "You can't do this!" and you do. Tasty serving of crow for 'em!

The only thing I wish you could do (You've got pretty good spectrum) is have a way to raise and lower those lights, it will help greatly in controlling your plant height, plus allow you deeper penetration. You'll yield much more with just a foot or two drop, if those focusing cups allow for it while still maintaining a useful blend.

Looks so awesome. That's how you apply the microeinsteins!

[stra8outtaWeed]

hey Iryd~no worries...you did not know...thanks for your good words and well wishes and likewise ForgetC

khyb~i did lower my light after having small chat with 'shake and not really pleased with the last run from 3 weeks to 6 weeks...which is when i lowered the lights about a foot closer and started seeing better results..also left too much on the bottoms as it got so thick that the light had hard time penetrating to the bottom layers....still a learining curve from the HPS methods....learning to water less...which is retraining in itself once you have habit of watering in certain timeframes having to break them and learn the patience in between watering.

with any grow or strain it is a trial and error until you get things dialed in...which is why i kept wondering why my second run was excellant yield with the lights in the old height...then it occured to me that i gave that batch a bigger shot of bushmaster in the beginning almost 6ml/gal...i was at the end of a bottle and i had seen a friends grow that had used more on one section and the plants were noticeably stockier with fatter buds so instead of leaving a small amount to be mixed with new bottle i just gave it all to them so my next batch that i will do is going to get the new doseage of bushmaster!:stoned:

[bigtopsfinn]

Very nice show you're putting on here :thumbsup:

Even I'm starting to believe a little more in LED's :D

If it's not too much trouble, I'd like to see some of those harvested nugs under regular light too... Nothing beats good bud pr0n (well, almost nothing) :jointsmile:

And best of luck with your upcoming trip!

[ForgetClassC]

Indeed on the LED's, just wish they could be made for the not-so-funded kinda people. Oh well, I probably could get a job during college, but I'm in my critical semesters at college and need to focus on my studio. Will definitely be looking into some sort of LED lighting in the future. And the good news is, you'll be back for the holiday.

-C

[personified]

Hey on the next grow do us a favor document it. Everyone likes to see but to documentation is experience for everyone as well as evidence for the skeptics.

Document the following and include the day number of veg and flower
Height of lights
Nutrients type used, quantity, and when.
When you water and quantity
Medium used
Weight weight then dry weight
Of course lot more pics

Any thing else you can think of or experience.

I know it is a lot of work but hey it is not like your getting paid for it :)
Thanx
Personified

[stra8outtaWeed]

i will do a thorough grow log when i get back from China....i will be starting a new tray then....typically i plant my clones into the square peat pots and veg them in those for about a week then i repot to 2 gal sq pots veg for at least 2 or 3 weeks...usually 2....if i have more than 16 potted i pick the best 16 and leave the few behind to veg further and take cuts from them...i am the clone station for a few of my friends:D

i plant clones into straight fox farm ocean forest soil and when i repot i use a 50/50 mix of ocean forest and chunky coco....i am considering going to a straight coco to have more consistency of drainage because it seems in mixing you always have some pots that hold more water than others so i am thinking of trying a straight coco to use for my 2 gal pots..i do a quasi-hydro system in that i have a 4 gallon bucket with a pump and i have feed lines to each pot.

when repotting i sprinkle mychorizzea into the holes i put the peat pots into and water with straight water...before putting them into flower i will give them some voodoo juice and another shot of mychorizea with hygrozyme and carbo load...i will give specifics when i do a complete log..keep a notebook:thumbsup:

one day 1 of flower i hit them bushmasterand they will only stretch about 1/3 of their heigh and will stack nodes better

then i use botanicare pro bloom soil/coco 30ml/gal...AN kushie kush 5ml/gal...wet betty 5ml/gal...carbo load 2ml/gal...bud candy 5ml/gal..5ml/gal hygrozyme and 1ml/gal rhino skin as ph up

that is my weekly feed formula and at week 6 i stop the kushie kush and start using Overdrive 10ml/gal for 2 weeks then flush within 7 - 10 days of harvest and last watering of carbo-load and bud candy only before take down!

As i metioned i will do a more thorough log and record veg/flower time, watering...pictures(need a better camera)..and as much info as i can share...then it will be a show for all to see!:smokin:

and thanks btf and fc for the props...yes and back in time for our holiday:thumbsup:

[Gare0440]

b e aaaa uttifulllll!!! :rastasmoke:

[moody420]

Your help here has been greatly appreciated by me and lots of others on this site....very glad to have crossed paths with you!

I hope to have your assistance on my next grow....I have lots of new ideas from you....can't wait to see how it works out! :jointsmile:

[jtsik330]

wow str8 I'm really impressed with those LED's. I have never seen panels such as your I've only seen the round LED set ups like the procyon and stuff. Maybe if i decide to break the bank these would be swwweeettt for a sealed room with a lil co2:pimp:

[jtsik330]

hey str8 how much did ya yield this time around?

[SmokeMyPiece]

Very nice set-up! definitely keepin those in mind. cant deny them buds:thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

wow str8 I'm really impressed with those LED's. I have never seen panels such as your I've only seen the round LED set ups like the procyon and stuff. Maybe if i decide to break the bank these would be swwweeettt for a sealed room with a lil co2:pimp:

yeah..CO2 is next on my agenda on maxing out yield...a propane model is only $360...and i am heating so it would help with that!

it took me a while to find these...they were originally designed for supplemental lighting in commercial greenhouses and are rated to be hung as high as 13' above the plants...so if i am at 13" or less i thought to myself these will be the LED's to change opinions....so i got a few to add to with HPS and when my plants were leaning to the 150w LED light away from my 1000w HPS i took the chance and got enough to do my flower room and take the 1000's out...it was a little nervy that day but after a few weeks of watching them flower i knew i made the right choice....and after smoking my product...well that was the real kicker...joints burn twice as long...more legs to the meds also...so for any serious med user i highly recommend learning LED growing!:thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

hey str8 how much did ya yield this time around?

i am guessing about 380-400gr dry

[khyberkitsune]

How much did each of the WEX-C150s cost you?

[stra8outtaWeed]

khyb~$450

here is a few more shots of some finished product and the next tray @ 24days...lights are 29" from the bottom of the plants...if i put them any lower i will hit the lights with the stakes taking them out. i have 4 gallon buckets that i marked for single gallons to try and monitor how much water i am using. 4 gallons under 1000's for 16 plants would go fast..now i have to be more careful not to overwater! :jointsmile:

[ForgetClassC]

I believe my previous statement of:
:jawdropper:
: is called for. Man, wish I could try some of those nuggets. Looking sweet and frosty. Awesome job.:thumbsup:

-C

[stra8outtaWeed]

I believe my previous statement of:
:jawdropper:
: is called for. Man, wish I could try some of those nuggets. Looking sweet and frosty. Awesome job.:thumbsup:

-C

make your way to my table and you are welcome to join me:smokin:

[headshake]

nice harvest man! can't wait to see what happens when you get those LEDs dialed in. i hope you have a good trip to china and that all goes well there! you might try using a proxy server while there if you can't access the site.

hopefully by the time you get back, there will be some sierra kush and silver spur in the flower tent, or at least close. they both have roots and are looking healthy. i just put them in some 6" square pots to veg.

keep up the good work my friend!


-shake

[ForgetClassC]

Oh how I wish I could live in Colorado.

-C

[stra8outtaWeed]

I am norcal ....almost Oregon...in fact just got back form there..haha!:smokin:

btw~final numbers on last harvest destemmed and dry 357gr...so i was off by a few!

[stra8outtaWeed]

nice harvest man! can't wait to see what happens when you get those LEDs dialed in. i hope you have a good trip to china and that all goes well there! you might try using a proxy server while there if you can't access the site.

hopefully by the time you get back, there will be some sierra kush and silver spur in the flower tent, or at least close. they both have roots and are looking healthy. i just put them in some 6" square pots to veg.

keep up the good work my friend!


-shake

ok..if was as good at computers as growing, i might be dangerous...how do i get proxy server? :D

[ForgetClassC]

There are actually proxies out there, like Proxy7.com used to be one, but idk anymore. It basically bypasses like firewalls and such.

-C

[ForgetClassC]

I am norcal ....almost Oregon...in fact just got back form there..haha!:smokin:

btw~final numbers on last harvest destemmed and dry 357gr...so i was off by a few!

Gotcha, got my flags mixed up, lol the Bear seems more suitable for Colorado, but I guess norcal is pretty forested. Either, way, would love to come to your neck-of-the-woods. It would be straight to meet some of the people here, maybe sometime down the line. Anyways, good estimate on the harvest, but I guess practice makes perfect. I was gonna take some pix of my little girl but I can't find my camera,. so once I find it, THEN I will take pix, lol. :hippy:

-C

[stra8outtaWeed]

lots of bears out here at least in the more rural areas...i got my first bear when i was 12 yrs old.:D

so if i use a proxy server i can access sites that outside of what they block in the internet in China? last time i was there i could not even look up Victoria Secret website they even blocked it:wtf:

i would think with the one child law they would let the dudes check out some skin on the internet...haha!:pimp:

[IrishViking]

I am norcal ....almost Oregon...in fact just got back form there..haha!:smokin:

btw~final numbers on last harvest destemmed and dry 357gr...so i was off by a few!

Hey str8, nice grow!
I live in Grants pass, Oregon(about 90 miles away). Let me know if u would like to swap strains? I currently have Blue God, Master Kush, Yankee Blueberry,and Dead Man Walking.:greenthumb:
Pics will be up soon.

[stra8outtaWeed]

this week i marked my 4 gallon buckets i use to water with at single gallons so i can monitor how much water i am giving...so this week they only got 4 gallons total 1 gallon at a time for 16 plants once on monday then wednesday and mixed some nutes and fed them the other 2 gallons yesterday. using GH nutes micro, bloom, and kool bloom this go round so it will be easy for my babysitter while i am gone for a few weeks!

also have run exhaust on full blast to increase cirulation and lower humidity to help transpiration...this round looksa mucxh better as i trimmed alot of the bottom growth so it is not so thick...the lower branches are getting better light and showing better bud development this time...i'm very pleased with what i see this time:smokin:

and thanks all who have stopped and given comment! Irish..very familiar with GP...maybe after i get back we can talk!:jointsmile:

[headshake]

hey str8, a proxy server is a computer that sits in between you and the host of the website that you are going too, eg cannabis.com. so when you (your computer) sends a request instead of going directly to cann.com it goes to the proxy server. then the proxy server tries to connect to cann.com. cann.com returns the request to the proxy and the proxy passes it on to your comp. this doesn't bypass firewalls exactly, but what it does is instead of your computer trying to connect to a blacklisted site, it connects to the proxy and not directly to the blacklisted site, and he information coming back to you, in the form of packets, show the proxy address in the packet header, and not the blacklisted site, so the information is allowed to pass.

hope that made sense and didn't confuse you. or in summation, the info comes from the proxy and not the blacklisted site, therefor there is no reason for the information to be blocked. this also keeps the site you are trying to access from seeing you, as you never actually directly connect to it.

ladies look very nice by the way!


-shake

[stra8outtaWeed]

thanks bro.....i was reading more and i was going to pay for one so i do not get all the freaking adds,,only 5.99..so that sounds good so i can download some entertainment fromm my netflix account....Chinese TV has no english channel other than a tourist channel..thats it!

I am going to get some last pics up before i leave. :D

[ForgetClassC]

thanks bro.....i was reading more and i was going to pay for one so i do not get all the freaking adds,,only 5.99..so that sounds good so i can download some entertainment fromm my netflix account....Chinese TV has no english channel other than a tourist channel..thats it!

I am going to get some last pics up before i leave. :D


That's what all their crazy game shows are for, lol. I didn't know you could rent a proxy, just knew there were some you could go to and it was like a google search or something. Lookin tasty over here, mine are getting nice as well.

-C

[stra8outtaWeed]

here we go day 36 and this is the last you will see of these until i get back...just started a new tray so it will e approx day 25 when i get home so the show will resume from there! :hippy:

[irydyum]

Looking good my friend. Best of luck on your journey and we will be eagerly anticipating your return:thumbsup:

[McLuvin]

WOW!!!! Those are some great looking nugs.... I wish they had scratch and sniff computer screens.

[ForgetClassC]

Nice ladies, and again best wishes and thoughts of your journey, hope nothing but positive arises from it. Peace.

-C

[stra8outtaWeed]

packin up...in more ways than one..haha...next stop is SF tonight then hittin the sky in the mornin...I'll check in tonight to see whats happening...but after that who knows....at least the all the nurses are pretty cute! :jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

i checked w/the babysitter and all are doing well...wish i had some photos!

this is the first time i have looked at my thread since getting to China...i miss my girls...and my meds! :(

oh well i'll be a light weight when i get home...one joint may last me all day..haha...used to smoke about 4-5 grams a day! :smokin:

[headshake]

have a good, safe trip my friend! the spur and the kush are coming along. irydyum is gonna run one of them for his next go round. can't wait to see how they turn out. it will be my first time to run a single strain. i can't wait!

hurry back and get to feeling better! smack an ass or two for me!


-shake

[BeFree]

I'm really diggin' the setup man!

I just moved to the Seattle/Tacoma area from Okiehoma, and didnt go through Cali on the trip. Startin' to think I should come down and see what Cali's all about. :hippy:

Only one favor I ask, and I ask it of Shake, Shovel, and all others....

Be Safe, and BeFree


be

[stra8outtaWeed]

thanks for all the good words and well wishes....i'll be home on the the 8th:jointsmile:

that'll give me a few days of training before my b-day and 420 :smokin:

[BeFree]

Vigorous high altitude training for 4-20.

Sounds great!

Also, was wonderin' if you use yahoo messenger?

If so, hit me at Lormord@. Wouldn't mind chattin' with a fellow grower outside of Cancom forums. :jointsmile:


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[ForgetClassC]

Too bad we can't watch your ladies grow. Sadly mine grow no longer....:( but, I'm start some outdoors this year I think, maybe, who knows. Either way, making what I got into some hash, at least it wont be a total waste, there's just too much plant matter for me to want to smoke it, at least, how it is now. Till later, peace.

-C

[stra8outtaWeed]

1 week and i am home....good news is i bought a new camera...a digital HD one so my photos should drsmatically improve from what i have been showing!:thumbsup:

I want to thank everyone for all the well wishes and good vibes thrown at em!:D

[khyberkitsune]

"I want to thank everyone for all the well wishes and good vibes"

We're pulling for ya!

[stra8outtaWeed]

:jointsmile:last part was supposed to say "at me"...i type fast and don't proof everything all the time~doh!

thanks again friends!:jointsmile:

[Weezard]

:jointsmile:last part was supposed to say "at me"...i type fast and don't proof everything all the time~doh!

thanks again friends!:jointsmile:

I t'ink we fingered dat out brah.:rastasmoke:
Read ya after da jet lag.

An' @fo'getclassy.
'bout yer rep msg.
I think that's a great idea:thumbsup:.
Drop me a note at "Calling out to Weezard for led advice".
Be happy to he'p.:)

Weeze -out

[ForgetClassC]

Will do.

-C

[stra8outtaWeed]

Thanks all for stoppin in...less than a week and the show will resume...i have my crop finishing early next week and a new show will begin and 1 will be at around 28 days i do believe....and a new camera for better pictures:jointsmile:

:smokin::smokin::smokin:

[stra8outtaWeed]

here is something i thought i would share...just got email from my mfr of my lights and i think it was Headshake who mentioned something about 5w LEDs

Currently all 5W leds are made by multiple chips, not single chip. As soon as single chip 5W leds are available, we will use them as well.

that is where it is from the manufacturing side so 3w LED is as big as they go right now:thumbsup:

[khyberkitsune]

They might not be able to get the single-chip 5W emitters at a reasonable price for the quantity you're moving. Alibaba and Aliexpress have tons (most are white LEDs but there are some horticulturally-suitable diodes to be found.)

That's the issue I'm having acquiring 3w diodes, especially with my emission pattern. I'm not moving enough volume to do more than get enough for prototyping at my current budget.

[stra8outtaWeed]

yeah..if you can make it that's one thing...next is making them affordble enough to have a market....when it happens though they will do it and i am looking forward to it.:jointsmile:

[jtsik330]

PPPLLLLEEEASSSEEEE CCCOMMMEEEE HHOOMMEEEE! I'm waiting for pics Str8, Can't wait to see the end results of your setup so I know you must be drrooollingg right now:D

[stra8outtaWeed]

dude you got me...i am missing them bigtime and being able to show whats going on.....thanks alot you bro...i am almost counting the hours now...i have 1 more injection on next tuesday and then i fly home on thursday...due to the international dateline i take off 11am in Beijing and get home at 9am the same day so i will land before i left :wtf:

on the good note i have new feeling in my left foot from all of the injections so far and some improvements in standing :thumbsup:

[moody420]

dude you got me...i am missing them bigtime and being able to show whats going on.....thanks alot you bro...i am almost counting the hours now...i have 1 more injection on next tuesday and then i fly home on thursday...due to the international dateline i take off 11am in Beijing and get home at 9am the same day so i will land before i left :wtf:

on the good note i have new feeling in my left foot from all of the injections so far and some improvements in standing :thumbsup:

hey 'man from future' can't wait to see how your babies have been doing since you've been in china! I'll be in week one when you get home...so excited to get this going! :jointsmile:

And this is excellent news about your leg! You are such a trooper....I can't wait to see how much you improve from this! You are almost done...hang in there, stoner! :jointsmile:

[demoreal]

I am going to keep an eye on this next grow of yours.
I take it you will be posting progress on this thread.
I still have not made my mind up about LED's.
You get some serious results. The pictures on this thread so far are very impressive. :thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

moody~thanks:smokin:

demoreal~yes...the show will go on:jointsmile:

i am going to try some new nutrients that have gotten some rave reviews from some of my growing friends the House and Garden Van de Swaan line..so i will be doing as test run and have a batch of babies that have been vegging since i left for China and when i get home they will be put in the tray that is being harvested by my baby sitter...so i will have a drying cab full of buds waiting for me to arrive :D

and a new camera to boot...so picture quality shall be greatly improved! :thumbsup:

i think i fried my old one with taking pictures of these LED lights~doh!:wtf:

[ForgetClassC]

Lookin forward to seeing those ladies. Gotta be getting frosty by now. Man, you even got someone to harvest for ya, thats where its at, lol. Hope them stem cells are doing it for ya, don't see why the states wont take off their asshats and realize it helps, so why not.

-C

[stra8outtaWeed]

yeah...i got one of my buddies to take care of the harvest as it would be an overload for me to get back home and have that much work to do...there s still going to be a fair amount of work anyways with moving the 16 plants that have vegged fot the 4 weeks i have been gone...thye will neee to have the bottoms claened and i will take cuttings from them so it will be wlecome back and get to work....i can't wait ti try the new camera for some bud porn :stoned:

[redtails]

Just don't point it directly at those lights this time! lol

[stra8outtaWeed]

Just don't point it directly at those lights this time! lol

nope...got the old one for that :D

[headshake]

make sure to set the pipe down before you pass out! can't wait to see what's up the sleeves.

-shake

[goodherb49]

Looks awesome....so how was the harvest compared to your 1000w setup? less ? more?
* given that your still looking to tweak the results
was this the first run with LEDs also?

[StickyBuds1987]

stra8 cant wait to see tha bud porn :jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

no i have finished 3 complete runs and i am learning from each one....by tweeking i am going to try straight coco as Weezard has highly recommended it as he has very nice LED grows and learning that you don't need to water as much...so a learning process but my yields have been very close to what i had with 1000w HPS...the only grow that i have not surpassed was the ones i did with both HPS/LED when i first used them as supplemental lights but i noticed how the plants leaned to the LED's and not the HPS even though i had new bulbs in.....so i took the leap of faith and jumped....and there is no going back in my mind it is the best decision i have made :thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

stra8 cant wait to see tha bud porn :jointsmile:
me neither..haha

25 hours and counting til lift off and headed home:D

i should have quoted good herb as my last comment was answering his post.:jointsmile:

[StickyBuds1987]

ah well soon then lol :stoned:

[demoreal]

I was wondering if you started using co2?
I am curious how extra co2 works with the LED's.
Does the room get hot enough so the plants start working harder, drinking more and growing faster?
Has the co2 helped? You changed strains so i guess you won't really know. I always change strains too. I would love to focus on one strain but I get board.
After researching LED's I learned it would be really easy to build one. You might want to look into that.
Nice Work!!!:thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

I was wondering if you started using co2?
I am curious how extra co2 works with the LED's.
Does the room get hot enough so the plants start working harder, drinking more and growing faster?
Has the co2 helped? You changed strains so i guess you won't really know. I always change strains too. I would love to focus on one strain but I get board.
After researching LED's I learned it would be really easy to build one. You might want to look into that.
Nice Work!!!:thumbsup:

i did add a CO2 generator before i left for China but it was in long enough for me to get things somewhat dialed in but i have it running on a timer..i have a controller/monitor wating at the house for me to install and i know that will help keep the CO2 at optimum levels...so i will get to see where my 2nd tray is as it was just in the first few day of flower before i left. So I will see tomorrow when i get home and i will be snappin some bud porn fo sho!!! I love OG SFV and that is what I primarily grow it is such a kick ass strain that it is hard to not grow it. I have a few other quality strains i keep going also.

yes it may be easy to build and fun but i really don't have the time and i like the construction of the LED lights i have...solid and well built! Plus it costs about $3/watt just for materials to build and you still need to design it! So i like mine as they are ready to plug in and run out of the box for that cost so i think i did good in finding these:smokin:

[demoreal]

So you can compare this OG harvest to the last I take it?
That would be very interesting.
If you can lead me in the direction of where to get those 3$ a watt LED I would love to design and build one. That is the kind of stuff I do in school so I might as well do something useful instead of a bunch of old school physics labs. Those are cool too just not very practical to me.
It would be fun to design one especially picking out all the right spectrum diodes.

[stra8outtaWeed]

Dreaded Hermie is the one who said what the materials cost for building one...you might contact him or Weezard to point you in the direction for parts...i just get mine from the manufacturer...i guess i'm lazy...haha!

As far as comparing...i'll have to wait to give you that answer when i get home...about 25 hours and i will be in the good ol USA and i can't wait to get some American food..haha! and tokin on some of that fine LED grown OG waiting in my car in SF for me....then i want some American food!:jointsmile:

[StickyBuds1987]

Dreaded Hermie is the one who said what the materials cost for building one...you might contact him or Weezard to point you in the direction for parts...i just get mine from the manufacturer...i guess i'm lazy...haha!

As far as comparing...i'll have to wait to give you that answer when i get home...about 25 hours and i will be in the good ol USA and i can't wait to get some American food..haha! and tokin on some of that fine LED grown OG waiting in my car in SF for me....then i want some American food!:jointsmile:

haha yeah i bet a nice big juicy burger haha even though its not good for you it will be good prob the best one you have had in a while lol your not bringing any chinese chicks home to make house wifes out of are ya haha :thumbsup::jointsmile::smokin:

[stra8outtaWeed]

haha yeah i bet a nice big juicy burger haha even though its not good for you it will be good prob the best one you have had in a while lol your not bringing any chinese chicks home to make house wifes out of are ya haha :thumbsup::jointsmile::smokin:

haha...too funny....i'll tke the 5th on that one for now! one never knows...young girls here like older men...i will say that! :jointsmile:

[StickyBuds1987]

haha...too funny....i'll tke the 5th on that one for now! one never knows...young girls here like older men...i will say that! :jointsmile:

lol maybe they just look younger haha... Where are you at in china? Always wanted to go there or japan lol well cant wait till ya get home and get some pics up.

[stra8outtaWeed]

Beijing...imagine this....twice the area of LA withe whole state of California's populatiion in it...this place is freaking huge! :stoned:

[ForgetClassC]

Beijing...imagine this....twice the area of LA withe whole state of California's populatiion in it...this place is freaking huge! :stoned:

That's insane, lol I never want to go there, I hate people, and I hate being that close to them.

-C

[demoreal]

Welcome Home!
I look forward to seeing your new camera in action.
:)

[stra8outtaWeed]

That's insane, lol I never want to go there, I hate people, and I hate being that close to them.

-C
there were places like that and i did not want to even get out of the car...traffic is crazy...cars drive on the sidewalks through and around pedestrians like its no big deal...its a wonder that people don't get run over but cars and people weave each other in constant flux of motion!

[redtails]

cars and people weave each other in constant flux of motion!

That would be cool to see! :stoned:

[stra8outtaWeed]

That would be cool to see! :stoned:

its beyond imagination...ever see a one lane road become a 2 laner with a car and a bus an people running between 2 buses moving only a few feet apart!! massive craziness!

last post from China my friends...computer is going away and next post will be from home about 24 hours from now! signing off from Beijing.:smokin:

[ForgetClassC]

Can't wait, atleast one of us gets a nice harvest, lol.

-C

[StickyBuds1987]

Beijing...imagine this....twice the area of LA withe whole state of California's populatiion in it...this place is freaking huge! :stoned:

Lol yeah thats why they are only allowed to have one kid its sad when the gov tells you how many kids you.

Oh and welcome back to the the USA lol your prob gonna get baked first thing huh haha.:jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

Lol yeah thats why they are only allowed to have one kid its sad when the gov tells you how many kids you.

Oh and welcome back to the the USA lol your prob gonna get baked first thing huh haha.:jointsmile:

made it and arrived to a forest...ahh! i got some major trimming to do on these trees...i was stoned and freaked at same time! i gotta get some pics to show how big 3 1/2 weeks of growth form an 8" clone at transplant!:stoned:

still have to use old camera until tomorrow...i thought the one i bought used same memory card..so gotta go to Wally world:(

[ForgetClassC]

He's probably lookin at some mean jet lag right now, YOU BETTER HAVE SOME PICTURES UP TOMORROW.......if your awake today? Maybe its your tomorrow, or is it your yesterday? lol

-C

[ForgetClassC]

Lol posted when you hadn't yet, good to see you made it back, any more trips over seas planned? Either way, I bet your harvest is nice, you gonna throw those babies into flower? Looks like you missed out on these babies childhood, now just the fun part, lol

-C

[moody420]

We want pics TONIGHT!!!! :D I'm just kidding! Welcome home....i'm glad you made it safe and sound and are stoned again! :jointsmile:

[usda101]

we got som more OG in the next tray...it is at 22 days right now!

i think the lights have screwed up my camera....it only takes a normal picture without the flash...i think it was the blue LEDs...i need a new camera anyway!

my next project is going to Beijing China in 2 weeks for my second round of stem cell injections....Spinal cord injury from snow skiing...so i am hoping but have doubts that this site will be accessible to me while i am in China...the crop will be tended to while i am gone....so i may be missing in action for about 3 weeks until i get back! :hippy:

but yeah i'll get a pic under some normal light:smokin:
Great grow. hope the injections produce results for you.

[stra8outtaWeed]

here is the jungle i came home too...it was alittle overwhelming! sorry about the blurry pictures...i purchased new camera and knew it did not have memory card included and i thought the one i had would fit but noooo! doh!

yes i tested out better with improvements on EMG test! it confirms all new sensations i am feeling! So very successful trip! :D

staying in contact here on the furum was great and i just want to say THANK YOU to everyone for all the well wishes.....this is the best online community i have experienced! :thumbsup:

[demoreal]

Looks like you have some work on your hands.
Welcome back.
Those are the Mothers I take it.
Have fun cloning.

[stra8outtaWeed]

Looks like you have some work on your hands.
Welcome back.
Those are the Mothers I take it.
Have fun cloning.

haha...they got "buthchered" tonight...i took cuttings until i filled a cup full and then i just started wacking so these things will fit under my lights...i'm sure everything will be fine but i hate when things get to an "almost out of control" growth rate...needless to say these are far bigger than i like...wish i was planting them outside!! but still too cold here overnight temps and the occaional spring snow! :(

[khyberkitsune]

Glad to have you back! You got a jungle, I see!

[ForgetClassC]

Man, those lights do work. If ya ever have any extras laying around that you might wanna make some extra spending money off of, let this guy know, lol. What strain is that again? Or is it a personal mix?

-C

[stra8outtaWeed]

Man, those lights do work. If ya ever have any extras laying around that you might wanna make some extra spending money off of, let this guy know, lol. What strain is that again? Or is it a personal mix?

-C
hit my yahoo or skype C :thumbsup:

some photos of the after math of the "return home of the Chinese butcher" :smokin:

[harry939]

saweeeeeeeeet clones. is it just the lights or are those plants stems purple? more impressive shizzzzz:thumbsup:

[khyberkitsune]

are those square rapid rooter blocks?

[stra8outtaWeed]

are those square rapid rooter blocks?
yes..actually called "rapid mat" a mat of 98 squares in a 1020...makes efficient use of space...i've been using them for a few years now and they just sit inside on the tray...i try to keep the temps between 80-85 and they work great! :D

[stra8outtaWeed]

still suffering from jet lag and work load...haven't seen the computer much trying to get things in order in the house and all...its nice to have the bong back also:jointsmile:

here are some day 28 shots ..the other tray won't start until they recover from the "massacre" i'll get some shots and show the before and after!:wtf:

i had 2 plants in the tray grow into and past the light so it was raised just after this photo!:smokin:

[bigtopsfinn]

I want a camera that takes pics 29 years into the future too :D

Looks impressive as usual :thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

I want a camera that takes pics 29 years into the future too :D

Looks impressive as usual :thumbsup:

thanks bro:D..i set the time and date but as usual i prove to have enough technical skill to operate a computer but i cant set the time on my camera or the clock next to my bed....i left the weekend time changed so these clocks are messin with me!!!:wtf:

[khyberkitsune]

Totally awesome. This is what needs to be posted every single time people say LEDs won't do jack.

[demoreal]

looking good. get off the computer!!!! you've got clones to take!

[ForgetClassC]

Man, that's quite a harvest of ladies to arrive home to. Your baby sitter did well.

-C

[firstfist]

After seeing this I will definitely be considering LED lights when/if I ever upgrade from lowly CFLs. Those look awesome!

[Merkaba]

Ready to buy Light for flower closet. I really like the low heat of T-5 & Led



Thinking either 4' x 8 bulb T-5 -or- current version of the "Procyon" 90w

Been told the T-5 is to weak for flowering??

Also.. R there ufo's that work 90w????

Any advise would be Awesome Thx MeRkAbA

[khyberkitsune]

Ready to buy Light for flower closet. I really like the low heat of T-5 & Led



Thinking either 4' x 8 bulb T-5 -or- current version of the "Procyon" 90w

Been told the T-5 is to weak for flowering??

Also.. R there ufo's that work 90w????

Any advise would be Awesome Thx MeRkAbA

T5 works fine for flowering, though if you want HUGE plants you are likely better off running the tubes vertically rather than just hanging them over the plants.

Plenty of UFOs that work - if you find ones with the right balance of spectrum. Considering everybody is hung up on the proven-inefficient 'NASA-Spec' lights, you won't find many with better ratios of light.

[Merkaba]

Thanks for input. My only concern with LED off Ebay is getting one thats

more like a spotlight.. as opposed to a broadcast.. Almost pulled the trigger
on one with cree lights usa? I think.. at the bottom in small print
said is was good for up to 2 plants.. figured it was spot light type..
Dont want that.. 180.00

Is there an original ufo light manufac??

Feel like I cant go wrong with the "procyon" but,Expensive..

Any info on "haight" LED lights would be nice..

Thx MeRkAbA

[khyberkitsune]

Thanks for input. My only concern with LED off Ebay is getting one thats

more like a spotlight.. as opposed to a broadcast.. Almost pulled the trigger
on one with cree lights usa? I think.. at the bottom in small print
said is was good for up to 2 plants.. figured it was spot light type..
Dont want that.. 180.00

Is there an original ufo light manufac??

Feel like I cant go wrong with the "procyon" but,Expensive..

Any info on "haight" LED lights would be nice..

Thx MeRkAbA


I don't know about an original UFO manufacturer. And bunches of ebay lights are the narrow-angle (spotlight) type diodes. most of the actual UFO panels will be of the wide-angle variety, though.

If you want to try catching me online, I'm on AIM, Yahoo, and Skype! I'll have my laptop with me out near the grill, just fire a message to me and we can do a bit of research. my nickname is the same on those im services as it is here.

[Merkaba]

The info on the wide angle / narrow angle lights was the right info at the perfect time.

pulled the trigger on a 90w tri band Led with Wide angle led"s 187.00 Del.

"Htg supply" Ebay If u get a chance/ read the info for the light they are selling , see what u think. They have Led link on the site..


Will be flowering next sat. will post pics, as
I go along.


Thx again, mErKaBa..

[khyberkitsune]

The info on the wide angle / narrow angle lights was the right info at the perfect time.

pulled the trigger on a 90w tri band Led with Wide angle led"s 187.00 Del.

"Htg supply" Ebay If u get a chance/ read the info for the light they are selling , see what u think. They have Led link on the site..


Will be flowering next sat. will post pics, as
I go along.


Thx again, mErKaBa..

My T5HO lights are from HTG - I'm quite familiar with their lineup, and also their slightly incorrect marketing and 'facts,' as I have had to discover first-hand from products they say they 'are OUR lights.' I had to ditch their tubes and go with some specialty AgroMax bulbs.

You bought the UFO with massive amounts of red, very little blue, and then white diodes to boot to act as 'full spectrum' when in reality that phosphor on the diode only emits a tri-band peak that is NOWHERE near full spectrum. They're using the 430nm diodes which they claim is at the highest peak but in reality that peak lies higher in the blue range, at least for photosynthetic processes. The shorter wavelength is useful for triggering other processes in the plant, but not as efficiently.

It'll be okay but I doubt it will be as good as they claim.

[Merkaba]

Thx for all the input, As long as my plants will gro...I know things r rarely as good as they state. But,, I hope it holds me over till I can upgrade to a procyon
or a haight light.. I really hope it has wide angle led;s.. do not want a spotlight.

Thx again, mErKaBa

[stra8outtaWeed]

i have procyon's expensive and they only hit 635nm and 445nm...great grow light....my lights are 3w diodes and 90* beam angle :thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

here are some pics of a few things related to our hobby that i got in China!:D

1. water pipes with attachment to hold a joint! i think the stem may get clogged quickly but oh well!

2. just a metal pipe..but it proves they know what its for! :D

3. my favorite find...actually my mom found it and i wish they would have picked up a few more...a little glass bubbler for smoking a joint and it fits perfect in the palm of your hand!:smokin:

4. hand carved jade joint holders...like these also..very cool...at least i feel cool with one in my hands...haha!:jointsmile:

[Merkaba]

Bet ya got em dirt cheap too.... that little1 is cool.. Cant wait to get my LED

ILL post some pics in a few weeks.. flowering 1 skunk 1 WW 3 kushberry

6 more WW feminized germ..

Thx for all the help... everybody STOKED.. MeRkAbA...

[StickyBuds1987]

:thumbsup:
here are some pics of a few things related to our hobby that i got in China!:D

1. water pipes with attachment to hold a joint! i think the stem may get clogged quickly but oh well!

2. just a metal pipe..but it proves they know what its for! :D

3. my favorite find...actually my mom found it and i wish they would have picked up a few more...a little glass bubbler for smoking a joint and it fits perfect in the palm of your hand!:smokin:

4. hand carved jade joint holders...like these also..very cool...at least i feel cool with one in my hands...haha!:jointsmile:

ah man those are nice i like pics 1 3 and 4 i try and stay away from the metal pipes they leak to much air for me pic 3 is awesome :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

[demoreal]

The things you got in China are so cool. It's so funny they have a picture of a business man guy on the bubbler thing. hahaha

[stra8outtaWeed]

giving one a test tonight! :D

[ForgetClassC]

Haha thats a nice little piece there. Let us all know what she does for ya.

-C

[stra8outtaWeed]

well day 1 is boring so i only got 1 pic of that the other is of the current grow in progress also a plant i call uno because it was a lone bag seed and she just sits on the floor getting a little spare light!:smokin:

[moody420]

always impressive....:jointsmile:

[irydyum]

(in my best attempt at a Borat voice)..."Very very nice."

[khyberkitsune]

Lookin yummy!

[ForgetClassC]

Uno doesn't seem to be looking that bad, lol.

-C

[firstfist]

Incredible!

Saw the arrow too. You hunt? Target practice? Compound bow? Just a spare arrow laying around?

Inquireing minds want to know. :D

[stra8outtaWeed]

thanks for the good words from all...i do appreciate the approval!:D

FCC~not too bad for sittin on the floor gettin spare light! she's a stoney little bitch..so i has to keep her! :smokin:

ff~those are spare arrows...the new toy is a crossbow..so you might see a few of those shorties in the future:jointsmile:

[headshake]

welcome back bro! glad all is well. how was the trip?

-shake

[stra8outtaWeed]

welcome back bro! glad all is well. how was the trip?

-shake

very good trip...thanks for asking :thumbsup:

[headshake]

i got about 12 cuts of sierra kush getting rooted for irydyum. then i'm cutting myself about 12 of the silver spur! i've got her under 20/4 and she's still throwing mad pistils. looks like little whisps of cotton candy!


-shake

[nicksevenfold]

Bah, I nearly bought two procyons before I got my switchable. Now I wish I had invested the extra money... That product looks very special :thumbsup:.

Look forward to seeing more!

NSF

[stra8outtaWeed]

i use the procyon's in veg and they are a small and spendy light...they lack the proper wavelength in getting good results in flower..the reds in it are only 635nm and the WEX-150 has 660nm...a deeper red! and easier on the pocket! :thumbsup:

the first photos are current progress...hard to give a day count as they did have some overwatering issues from the caregiver slowing progress a little but coming along fine :D

pics 3 & 4 are day 5 of the other tray...all OG Kush SFV...same as the other tray :jointsmile:

the last pic is a banana tree at the grow shop :smokin:

[ForgetClassC]

Ah nice, pictures, I was about to bitch and moan, but you have halted that, lol. Looking awesome man, I've been looking into 100w fixtures from the same company as your lights. Well, looking for in the future. Either way, hope you had a good holiday, peace.

-C

[stra8outtaWeed]

Ah nice, pictures, I was about to bitch and moan, but you have halted that, lol. Looking awesome man, I've been looking into 100w fixtures from the same company as your lights. Well, looking for in the future. Either way, hope you had a good holiday, peace.

-C
they don't make the 100w units anymore....only the 150w with 3w diodes :thumbsup:

thanks for the good words bro...good to see ya! :smokin:

[harry939]

looking amazing:thumbsup: cant wait to get my hands on a couple of those bad boys

[Growgood2]

Okay Str8 Im doin it!!!!! im goin LED. I need to ask you some questions first!
Okay so first question. I dont have a huge set up and at the moment am not looking to grow more than 2 plants right now. I have done some reaserch on the whole Light Emitting Diode (LED) thing, But can I get away with getting a smaller LED light fixture and still have the same yeild on one plant?? I think I can but not sure...AND, What color lite do I use, blue,red,yellow,purple,orange,white, a combo of blue and red???? SO many COLORS!!!!! BUT from the looks of things on your end you look like you know what your doin.

Also do you still use a liteing schedual? 18-6 for veg? 12-12 for flower?
The hole reason for lite sched is for the proces of photosynthisis to occure, but with the LED the plant is allowed to photosynthasize as long as the lites are on and the right color/colors is used. So Im wondering if you use a different lite sched or the same. I gues Im just confused. Also very excited to get this whole LED thing goin!!!!!!!!

GORWGOOD!!

[stra8outtaWeed]

Okay Str8 Im doin it!!!!! im goin LED. I need to ask you some questions first!
Okay so first question. I dont have a huge set up and at the moment am not looking to grow more than 2 plants right now. I have done some reaserch on the whole Light Emitting Diode (LED) thing, But can I get away with getting a smaller LED light fixture and still have the same yeild on one plant?? I think I can but not sure...AND, What color lite do I use, blue,red,yellow,purple,orange,white, a combo of blue and red???? SO many COLORS!!!!! BUT from the looks of things on your end you look like you know what your doin.

Also do you still use a liteing schedual? 18-6 for veg? 12-12 for flower?
The hole reason for lite sched is for the proces of photosynthisis to occure, but with the LED the plant is allowed to photosynthasize as long as the lites are on and the right color/colors is used. So Im wondering if you use a different lite sched or the same. I gues Im just confused. Also very excited to get this whole LED thing goin!!!!!!!!

GORWGOOD!!

i run 22/2 in veg because i have one strain that wants to flower so i stay on a high light schedule. then i keep my flower on12/12... there are alot of things to look for in a good LED light but mainly having 660nm diodes which are the most expensive...key in effective flowering...you can hit my yahoo or skype and i can give you more! :jointsmile:

[xxMrGreenThumbx]

wow mate....

[stra8outtaWeed]

day 13 and i've had to move the lights up and rearrange the plants by height.:jointsmile:

the other shots are my floor plants :D

silver spur is the taller and sierra kush is the shorter one :smokin:

[stra8outtaWeed]

just fed this tray 3 gal and it is week 6 :jointsmile:

[headshake]

looking good! have you noticed much of a difference with moving the lights down? i need to get my hands on some of those LEDs for testing! so hit me up via yahoo.

keep up the great work!


-shake

[khyberkitsune]

Every single time I hear "LEDs won't yield or penetrate" I show pictures of your grow. They almost universally shut up. :)

Keep up the awesome work!

[stra8outtaWeed]

shake~ yes i have noticed a difference with keeping the lights as close as i can :thumbsup:

thanks khyb :D

[Jonbongjovi]

Great informative thread, I registered to this forum to subscribe to THIS thread.

I recently got my card, so I've been doing my research on LED lighting for all the obvious perks. I was afraid to make the leap (especially on reading the MOUNDS of negative comments over the last 2+ years) but it finally looks like people are having success with LEDs...especially since the new tech has been out.

Thanks for posting this! I'll be on the LED wagon soon thanks to this thread.

[stra8outtaWeed]

Great informative thread, I registered to this forum to subscribe to THIS thread.

I recently got my card, so I've been doing my research on LED lighting for all the obvious perks. I was afraid to make the leap (especially on reading the MOUNDS of negative comments over the last 2+ years) but it finally looks like people are having success with LEDs...especially since the new tech has been out.

Thanks for posting this! I'll be on the LED wagon soon thanks to this thread.

welcome aboard and thanks for the good words :jointsmile:

[Rusty Trichome]

Any further thoughts or decisions on the supplimental lighting we discussed, or are you still thinking on it? Might at least be worth a try before putting it up on e-Bay. Would suck to get rid of it, and find out later it was a killer combo, lol. :jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

Any further thoughts or decisions on the supplimental lighting we discussed, or are you still thinking on it? Might at least be worth a try before putting it up on e-Bay. Would suck to get rid of it, and find out later it was a killer combo, lol. :jointsmile:

I do know HPS and the LED do work well together but since it is the last ballast left of my HID equipment I'll probably just box it up and save it for who knows what but the point being i still have it to play with but for now things are running pretty good...i'll shoot some new pics tonight of the progress. :D

[stra8outtaWeed]

a few shots~day 15 and it looks like the lights have to go up again!

the last 3 pics~these have another 2 weeks to go :jointsmile:

[ForgetClassC]

LOL I read the day 15 part and looked at the pix with the buds in them, and I almost shit a brick, I didn't see the first pic of the beginning to flower plants, lol. I was about to say, man, those LED's are doing work. Nice nugs.

-C

[Rusty Trichome]

Are you on a tight schedule? Wondering if letting 'em go an extra week or two would be worth the wait...?

Looking good though. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[moody420]

LOL I read the day 15 part and looked at the pix with the buds in them, and I almost shit a brick, I didn't see the first pic of the beginning to flower plants, lol. I was about to say, man, those LED's are doing work. Nice nugs.

-C

hahaha! Wouldn't that be great! :jointsmile:

Looking good stra8....I hope mine turn out half as good as yours! They better! :D

[stra8outtaWeed]

C~ i got dem magic lights bro! haha! :D


Rusty~ thank you....2 or 3 weeks...whenever they finish :smokin:


moody~ yours will :thumbsup:

[GP73LPC]

i have 2 procyons and 1 WEX-C150 80%630nm 20%460nm in veg

i run 4 WEX-C150 5 band 50%660nm 10%630nm 10%600nm 20%460nm 10%3500k white and 2 WEX-C150 80%630nm 16%460nm 4%3500k warm white in my flower room.



i use the procyon's in veg and they are a small and spendy light...they lack the proper wavelength in getting good results in flower..the reds in it are only 635nm and the WEX-150 has 660nm...a deeper red! and easier on the pocket! :thumbsup:


first off, sweet thread, thanks for posting... :thumbsup:

just wondering what the physical size of the WEX units are?

i've just started researching LED's and used to run 3 - 150 HPS lights in 2 cabinets. I want to design a new cabinet that would contain a veg and a flowering chamber. the procyon 100 at 13.5" x 5" x 5" easily fits into a cabinet, but i was wondering about the WEX.

and if you don't mind, where did you buy the WEX units?

thanks :smokin:

[stra8outtaWeed]

they are 4" x 40"...i bought mine direct from the factory....you can yahoo me or skype and i can give you the details :thumbsup:

[Coachgee]

Nice stuff Stra8 cant wait til I move bro so I can have more room....:thumbsup:

[smalltymer]

great setup. ive been wanting to jump on this band wagon for awhile now. joined this board just so i could subscribe to this thread. how do i obtain these wex-c150? i did a search online and i cant find anything. ive been waiting for the push to move led and i think this is what i needed. awesome stuff. btw how much heat are the 6 wex putting off?

[stra8outtaWeed]

great setup. ive been wanting to jump on this band wagon for awhile now. joined this board just so i could subscribe to this thread. how do i obtain these wex-c150? i did a search online and i cant find anything. ive been waiting for the push to move led and i think this is what i needed. awesome stuff. btw how much heat are the 6 wex putting off?

heat is minimal...i run an electric oil filled heater and keep it on low to keep my room around 82-85 :D

yahoo or skype me i can get you hooked up :thumbsup:

[harry939]

they are 4" x 40"...i bought mine direct from the factory....you can yahoo me or skype and i can give you the details :thumbsup:

DO IT!:thumbsup: looking amazing as usual stra8

[khyberkitsune]

Hey, Stra8 - heads up for you. New wholesale smoke shops popping up have LEDs in them (and nowhere near your quality, I saw a mimic of your unit that BURNED MY HANDS ON TOUCH not 45 minutes ago.)

Keep your eyes open, there's opportunity to show more than the internet that LEDs are now mainstream-ready.

BTW Cree just popped out a new white diode at 200+ lumens per watt of input power. HPS just got destroyed if they can get that quantum-dot efficiency out of monochromatic LEDs using the same tech. That means (without the QD phosphor layer) we could be seeing an equivalent unweighted 230lux/w radiometric power. GOODBYE HID.

[Gare0440]

your led's are beautiful man keep it up!:thumbsup:

[GetThisOrDie]

Those LEDs are serious business! Your buds look great.

[stra8outtaWeed]

thanks guys :jointsmile:

heres some pics in progress

day 20 of flower in the first pics...feeding the House & Garden Nutes on this tray

week 7 and still pushing :smokin:

[GP73LPC]

awesome stra8 !!! :thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

day 24 of House & Garden nutes...i have been feeding 2gal of nutes for 16 plants in 2 gal containers :D

[stra8outtaWeed]

forgetC~this is for you...i'm posting seperate pics for each tray :smokin:

beginning week 8 and plan on going another 10 days to finish these girls up! :pimp:

[demoreal]

Did you run the top booster and if so what week and how long? Are you using shooting powder? If so how?
Your grow is looking really good. There getting chunky.

[mrnobody]

They look super cool, amazing the evolution of them. Truly inspirational for us "other" growers. I do have a point/question/suggestion. If you had those strips also at mid level and canopy level but dialled in so they were less tahn above to avoid strange stretching would you get more at canopy level. I truly believe if you had some horizontal supplemental lighting your yield would be double or therabouts.

[stra8outtaWeed]

Did you run the top booster and if so what week and how long? Are you using shooting powder? If so how?
Your grow is looking really good. There getting chunky.

thanks...i am running the 8week schedule and yes i will be applying the Top Booster on week 5....since a packet of Shooting Powder is more than i need to finish one grow i did give the current grow 1/2tsp/gal of Shooting Powder just to see how they react to a small dose...the feed formula calls for 1tsp/gal then 2tsp/gal the last 2 weeks....and i beleive it has helped them pack on some weight...but i will know more as i complete the first tray on the entire formula :thumbsup:

[Rusty Trichome]

Hey Str8, was curious what the ingredients are for the Shooting Powder but all I could come up with is this:
Shooting Powder Info - UK House and Garden (http://ukhouseandgarden.co.uk/downloads/shooting%20pwdr%20report.pdf)

Does it mention ingredients and/or breakdown on the bag?

[stra8outtaWeed]

Hey Str8, was curious what the ingredients are for the Shooting Powder but all I could come up with is this:
Shooting Powder Info - UK House and Garden (http://ukhouseandgarden.co.uk/downloads/shooting%20pwdr%20report.pdf)

Does it mention ingredients and/or breakdown on the bag?

yes..and it is 0-9-20 it says derived from pottasium sulfate, pottasium carbonate, potassium phosphate :thumbsup:

the stuff looks like tang :jointsmile:

[DoubleMeh1]

I'm new so be gentle please :P

Do the plants require a mixture of light or can you simply use one colour during each stage? I mean can you use only blue light at 460nm for the veg stage and then red light at 660 nm for the flowering stage? Or do you need a bit of blue light during the veg stage as well?

Thanks.

[stra8outtaWeed]

I'm new so be gentle please :P

Do the plants require a mixture of light or can you simply use one colour during each stage? I mean can you use only blue light at 460nm for the veg stage and then red light at 660 nm for the flowering stage? Or do you need a bit of blue light during the veg stage as well?

Thanks.

the main needs of a plant are reds and blues so it is not a good idea to do one color only...in either flower or veg...you need both for a healthy plant:thumbsup:

[DoubleMeh1]

Ahh so traditional MH and sodium lamps produce light in both wavelengths? So during flowering do you use LED lights with more red in them and during veg you use more blue, or you just use a mixed light for both?


Thanks for the help, think i'll have a few more questions no doubt. I wrecked my spine a few months back and buying my medicine is costing a fortune.

[stra8outtaWeed]

Ahh so traditional MH and sodium lamps produce light in both wavelengths? So during flowering do you use LED lights with more red in them and during veg you use more blue, or you just use a mixed light for both?


Thanks for the help, think i'll have a few more questions no doubt. I wrecked my spine a few months back and buying my medicine is costing a fortune.

actually i run the same amount of blue in each flower and veg...the reds are not as critical in veg as 630nm will work but will not perform well in flower...a deeper red of 660nm is needed for good performance in flower:jointsmile:

[DoubleMeh1]

I see, so you can use the same lights in veg and flower you just need the appropriate red spectrum. So if you were running your grow via clones you could keep your mother plants alive with the same lights used in the flowering phase?

What would you recommend regarding ratio of red to blue? I see some companies selling 8:2 (red:blue) and 7:1 (red:blue).


Sorry for so many questions :)

[GP73LPC]

forgetC~this is for you...i'm posting seperate pics for each tray :smokin:

beginning week 8 and plan on going another 10 days to finish these girls up! :pimp:

outstanding !!! :thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

thanks GP :D

dm~mine are a full spectrum and 3w diodes...so i think it does help in covering the fringe spectrum needs...i have noticed that plants under the light with 80% 630nm reds do not have as large of flowers as the lights with more 660nm deep red. So i have taken it out and put one of the full spectrum models in its place and after this run i will replace the other one in this tray also :jointsmile:

[DoubleMeh1]

thanks GP :D

dm~mine are a full spectrum and 3w diodes...so i think it does help in covering the fringe spectrum needs...i have noticed that plants under the light with 80% 630nm reds do not have as large of flowers as the lights with more 660nm deep red. So i have taken it out and put one of the full spectrum models in its place and after this run i will replace the other one in this tray also :jointsmile:

Full spectrum? Does that include some UV light as well?

Would a grow suffer from being provided only 460nm and 660nm light?

[stra8outtaWeed]

if you look at Weezard's albums he has built his own units using only 660/460 and has done quite well!:thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

Man stra8 them babe's look so nice. I tried to get you on yahoo, but took too long for the page to load. Id like some info on the lights and i know ya got it. Might need to change up a few things if i move and heat is my big issue, so LED would solve that.

Anyway il catch up with you at some point here and im not in a rush now with my outdoor getting ready to go out. Got cold as heck here this weekend, so that put me a couple days behind, but im cool.:cool:

Keep er green man,:rasta:

[stra8outtaWeed]

Man stra8 them babe's look so nice. I tried to get you on yahoo, but took too long for the page to load. Id like some info on the lights and i know ya got it. Might need to change up a few things if i move and heat is my big issue, so LED would solve that.

Anyway il catch up with you at some point here and im not in a rush now with my outdoor getting ready to go out. Got cold as heck here this weekend, so that put me a couple days behind, but im cool.:cool:

Keep er green man,:rasta:
thanks bro...i tried your yahoo and it wouldn't let me thru :smokin:

[Charbud]

nice looking plants bro ! I always thought LED's werent very good but you have not only proved me wrong but have inspired me to buy some ! Could you reccomend a 90watt rectangular model ? and what light spectrum i should use as i found chosing one very confusing !!

Keep up the good work

[stra8outtaWeed]

nice looking plants bro ! I always thought LED's werent very good but you have not only proved me wrong but have inspired me to buy some ! Could you reccomend a 90watt rectangular model ? and what light spectrum i should use as i found chosing one very confusing !!

Keep up the good work

thanks for checking out my thread...i would mainly say look for 660nm in the red and 440-460nm in the blue...those are the most important colors...the 660nm reds are the more expensive of the diodes :thumbsup:
:smokin:

[Charbud]

Thanks for such a quick reply !

I understand the light thing a bit better now. Im very worried about buying a dodgy one of ebay. This being because I could buy this from a shop Quality LED Grow Lighting Online Shop 300w 120w 90w 50w 15w - Grow Light UK - Store (http://www.growlightuk.com/tabid/58/ProductID/7/Default.aspx) which i would think is the real thing or i could buy of ebay from honk kong :S hong kong being the home of imitations im not too sure ? pay an extra £100 or buy a cheap one ! What would you do ? Did you buy yours of ebay ?

sorry about all the questions but i really wana get my own led grow show going ;)

Cheers

[stra8outtaWeed]

Thanks for such a quick reply !

I understand the light thing a bit better now. Im very worried about buying a dodgy one of ebay. This being because I could buy this from a shop Quality LED Grow Lighting Online Shop 300w 120w 90w 50w 15w - Grow Light UK - Store (http://www.growlightuk.com/tabid/58/ProductID/7/Default.aspx) which i would think is the real thing or i could buy of ebay from honk kong :S hong kong being the home of imitations im not too sure ? pay an extra £100 or buy a cheap one ! What would you do ? Did you buy yours of ebay ?

sorry about all the questions but i really wana get my own led grow show going ;)

Cheers

unless you find a specific model on ebay i would stay away from buying just price unless it is going to be strictly a veg light....i checked the link and i would ask how many 660 reds...if less than 50% then keep looking:thumbsup:

[Charbud]

I will do, cheers again

[Charbud]

back again ! ok I think i found the best option, these are hand built to order but i'm still not sure which other options i need apart from the extra 660 nm's. Which options would you select ? (all options at the bottom of the page) 120w led grow light | CTLEDLIGHT.CO.UK (http://www.ctledlight.co.uk/120w-led-grow-light)

advice much appreciated :D

[stra8outtaWeed]

back again ! ok I think i found the best option, these are hand built to order but i'm still not sure which other options i need apart from the extra 660 nm's. Which options would you select ? (all options at the bottom of the page) 120w led grow light | CTLEDLIGHT.CO.UK (http://www.ctledlight.co.uk/120w-led-grow-light)

advice much appreciated :D

i tried to read what the UV option was but could not find anything on it...i would call about that...but i would get the 660nm, 8:2, and 60 degree focus :jointsmile:

[ultrabd]

where in nocal can i find these lights ?

[stra8outtaWeed]

where in nocal can i find these lights ?

hit my skype, yahoo, or email me my screen name @gmail.com :thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

day 27 and the House & Garden nutes formula is doing well so far :jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

gave these girls the last feeding...flush on friday~chop next tuesday night!:smokin:

[Rusty Trichome]

Looking great.

Would love to see ya do a heavily indica grow with the LED's. You've got me curious, but startup cost is too high right now. Just spent a year saving for a Vapor Tower for my wife...would be somewhere around June 2015 before I could save enough for LED's, lol.

Good job though. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

Looking great.

Would love to see ya do a heavily indica grow with the LED's. You've got me curious, but startup cost is too high right now. Just spent a year saving for a Vapor Tower for my wife...would be somewhere around June 2015 before I could save enough for LED's, lol.

Good job though. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


i would like to find a good indica :D

thanks for the props....LED's are only going to get better in the future so they'll be waiting for you :jointsmile:

[demoreal]

They look good!!!!!
You, bigtopspin, and me are about to harvest... :)

Rusty had a great idea. It would be amazing if you found a good indica. I would love to see how fat you could make a bud. The lights have Sativa length down good.

[LetsSeeYa]

Stra8, they look amazing man:thumbsup:. I will be waiting on Tue. for a harvest pic, if your not to busy. I just luv those lights man and plus your skills to get such a nice grow. Its just not the lights that made your grow, its the skills ya got from experience and reading.

REP+

:rasta:

[khyberkitsune]

Mmmm those look tasty. I can only hope that since I had to stop the PC box grow and move those two plants down with the krusty and DWC that I can get them looking that nice.

[GP73LPC]

very nice stra8 !!! :thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

thanks for the props all....do appreciate everyone's comment and participation in my thread :D

harvest party demo :jointsmile:

[flyinhi]

Str8......those girls really are all woman!!! As you know, I am a very new newbie lol, so always doing the reading and researching bit, and I am very much liking your LED grow! Until reading your log, I had kinda skipped by the LED threads. Almost wish I had read them before planning our setup! But maybe I'm too keen and need to get a few grows under my belt before looking at buying LEDs myself. By then I might understand more about the LED system, not being very technical minded I would probably end up with the shittiest LEDs available lol. I've had a tentative look at some LEDs available on a certain auction site here in the UK for future reference, but none appear to have the same 'power' as your ones, and seem a bit cheap in price compared to the costs of yours....as I say, I am not technical minded though. When the time and the finances are right, I'd love to have a go with LEDs........and maybe by then someone will have written a 'dummies guide' to growing with them lol. Now there's a little earner for you.....get your pen and notepad ready Str8 lol

:stoned:

[headshake]

what's good bro? the buds look amazing. what's going on with all the fans though? you've got a lot of discoloration and downward curl. i'm not knocking you, just curious....as we all know, we don't smoke the fans. just my scientific mind at work.

also, is there a piece of glass on the bottom of the LEDs? if so, i wonder how it effects the output. not much obviously, but it has to have some. also, i wonder how much this would effect UV transmission.

keep up the good work bud. i think i might be using one of your lights soon!


-shake

[stra8outtaWeed]

what's good bro? the buds look amazing. what's going on with all the fans though? you've got a lot of discoloration and downward curl. i'm not knocking you, just curious....as we all know, we don't smoke the fans. just my scientific mind at work.

also, is there a piece of glass on the bottom of the LEDs? if so, i wonder how it effects the output. not much obviously, but it has to have some. also, i wonder how much this would effect UV transmission.

keep up the good work bud. i think i might be using one of your lights soon!


-shake

this is why i am switching to a straight coco....with soil some pots are dried out and others get too much water and the fans get droopy...plus this batch was taken care of by a friend in the beginnig and it got over watered in the beginning and it has been a struggle to be honest...but i think it is turning out ok! :D

[demoreal]

My fan leaves always look jacked by the end of a grow. I have no idea how to keep them looking good. It does not happen till the last few weeks. Luckily the close up leaves stay happy. I always try to keep the fans happy the last few weeks, but I fail...
:mad:

[headshake]

this is why i am switching to a straight coco....with soil some pots are dried out and others get too much water and the fans get droopy...plus this batch was taken care of by a friend in the beginnig and it got over watered in the beginning and it has been a struggle to be honest...but i think it is turning out ok! :D

most definitely! like i said, just curious from a scientific point of view.

keep doing what ya do.


-shake

[Weezard]

what's good bro? the buds look amazing. what's going on with all the fans though? you've got a lot of discoloration and downward curl. i'm not knocking you, just curious....as we all know, we don't smoke the fans. just my scientific mind at work.

also, is there a piece of glass on the bottom of the LEDs? if so, i wonder how it effects the output. not much obviously, but it has to have some. also, i wonder how much this would effect UV transmission.

Butting-in :D

Prolly not much, shake.
The LEDs put out zip at the critical wavelength.
280nm.

keep up the good work bud. i think i might be using one of your lights soon!


-shake

I'd be willing to bet on it!:)
I can't wait
to see str8
grow coco.

This is going to be a most illuminating combination of talent and tools.:cool:

Aloha,
(I see you escaped, old avatar still inna tanglefoot?):D

Wee 'zard

[headshake]

i hear ya loud and clear Weeze. i know these specific LEDs are monochromatic (he's not using white's at all is he?) i was just thinking that getting through the extra glass (or plexiglass) would eat up some of the energy.

the UV statement should have been posed as it's own independent query. i obviously wasn't very thorough. bad shake!


-shake

[stra8outtaWeed]

I'd be willing to bet on it!:)
I can't wait
to see str8
grow coco.

This is going to be a most illuminating combination of talent and tools.:cool:

Aloha,
(I see you escaped, old avatar still inna tanglefoot?):D

Wee 'zard


so far so good in veg :D

i just felt like a switch as far as the avatar goes....

and appreciate your input here brah....if the tools are good we just kick back and let them do all the work :smokin:

[GetThisOrDie]

Great lookin girls man... good job!

[Weezard]

My fan leaves always look jacked by the end of a grow. I have no idea how to keep them looking good. It does not happen till the last few weeks. Luckily the close up leaves stay happy. I always try to keep the fans happy the last few weeks, but I fail...
:mad:


It can be done, but is not advisable.
Give 'em a steaming heap of nitrogen and they'll stay green.
They will also taste green.:p

Senescense is natures way.
Best to go with it.:cool:

Aloha
Weezard

[stra8outtaWeed]

yeah most of the fans look pretty jacked right now...but the buds are looking awesome :smokin:

i'll get some more pics before i chop the tray and then some trimmed and hanging....4 more days...2 more cycles of light then 48hrs of darkness to finish! :jointsmile::jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

here are the last pics before 48 hrs darkness

i moved a few plants....can you tell which one did'nt get a good dose of Bushmaster!?!?!

:smokin:

[ForgetClassC]

Man, those look delicious. Very good job.

-C

[irydyum]

here are the last pics before 48 hrs darkness

How do you pull this off with your setup? Have you noticed anything noteworthy by giving it this last darkness? I'm always skitchy when things go against mother nature, just curious if you have reason or if it's just how you've always done it.

Looking mighty fine BTW, would love to blaze a fatty with ya:thumbsup:

[Charbud]

drooling

[stra8outtaWeed]

How do you pull this off with your setup? Have you noticed anything noteworthy by giving it this last darkness? I'm always skitchy when things go against mother nature, just curious if you have reason or if it's just how you've always done it.

Looking mighty fine BTW, would love to blaze a fatty with ya:thumbsup:

i just let the room go dark for 2 cycles basically...this stops any photosynthesis and need for nitrogen in the plant in the final moments of its life and giving your end product a smoother flavor...the buds also swell a bit more in the darkness :jointsmile:

i never noticed any harm to the plants in the other tray by giving them the extra dark period.

thanks.....next pics will be the hanging :D

[irydyum]

i never noticed any harm to the plants in the other tray by giving them the extra dark period.



That was my worry. I was wondering how 2 days of dark would affect plants around day 30 of flower.