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TheReleafCenter
02-09-2010, 08:18 PM
We've been struggling with this question, so I'll put it to you guys:

We've had a lot of caregivers bringing by buds that have hermed, from small, undeveloped seeds to big 'ol tiger stripes. One in particular, a cross of Willie's Wonder and NYCD, was some amazing smoke, but had two or three seeds to an eighth.

Is it okay to you to get a couple seeds if the smoke is really potent? What if a dispensary tells you in advance? Or if they weigh it slightly over? Does it automatically drop a grade?

-TRC

dankzilla86
02-09-2010, 10:29 PM
I am with you I believe it doesn't drop a grade cause I had seeds in my white bubba n tahoe ogxc99 from ccf but they were still fire n the tahoe was a good seed. Already tryin to sprout it godbless

Faddenator
02-09-2010, 10:35 PM
We've been struggling with this question, so I'll put it to you guys:

We've had a lot of caregivers bringing by buds that have hermed, from small, undeveloped seeds to big 'ol tiger stripes. One in particular, a cross of Willie's Wonder and NYCD, was some amazing smoke, but had two or three seeds to an eighth.

Is it okay to you to get a couple seeds if the smoke is really potent? What if a dispensary tells you in advance? Or if they weigh it slightly over? Does it automatically drop a grade?

-TRC

I would consider it a bonus... seeds are expensive, especially those with decent genetics.

palerider7777
02-09-2010, 11:59 PM
I would consider it a bonus... seeds are expensive, especially those with decent genetics.

yea if it was just a seeded plant but not it they were hermi seeds. but as far as the ?? i don't see a prob with the meds.depends on how much the plant herm'd depends on how much it spread as to the potence of the bud.if it was just a lil then not much of the energy went to seed production.just depends but if the meds are good i don't see a problem.

Faddenator
02-10-2010, 12:14 AM
yea if it was just a seeded plant but not it they were hermi seeds. but as far as the ?? i don't see a prob with the meds.depends on how much the plant herm'd depends on how much it spread as to the potence of the bud.if it was just a lil then not much of the energy went to seed production.just depends but if the meds are good i don't see a problem.


If you get seeds off a hermie caused by stress, does that gaurantee a hermie will grow? I guess I've never really gotten a straight answer about that. Usually when I find a seed It's the only one in the whole ounce. I figure its just some sort of anamoly, but I do know that when I get seeds in this fashion they are almost always viable.

Over the last 3 months I've collected 3 seeds total. Cali Mist, Jack the Ripper, and Strawberry Kush. I mixed the damn things up though :(

anyways Im getting a little off topic, so im done. :thumbsup:

copobo
02-10-2010, 02:58 AM
I think you should just tell people. If it was a kind I liked, it would be a bonus for me. I would like to know before I grind up an ounce for the vaporizer/joints for the next few and don't notice the seed... they still taste like crap

someone who I caregive for found 2 seeds in an ounce and came to complain. I told him I would buy seeds back from him for $5 a piece. He's decided to keep them ;)

Kartel
02-10-2010, 03:04 AM
IMO, if there is less than 1 seed per gram, no problem, doesn't change the quality, could even be a bonus as others have said. :thumbsup:

But as I've purchased some meds with half a dozen seeds per gram at premium prices, I start to feel weight or price compensation should be given for the medicine... if it has this much tendency to herm, probably not a bonus either.

:rastasmoke:

senorx12562
02-10-2010, 03:27 AM
I think you should just tell people. If it was a kind I liked, it would be a bonus for me. I would like to know before I grind up an ounce for the vaporizer/joints for the next few and don't notice the seed... they still taste like crap

someone who I caregive for found 2 seeds in an ounce and came to complain. I told him I would buy seeds back from him for $5 a piece. He's decided to keep them ;)
I love the idea of buying them back, although if they are from a selfed hermie I don't think I would bother growing it out, but, as faddenator implied, if it's purely environmental, I don't know that there would be a problem.

bridge4
02-10-2010, 03:32 AM
I would consider a few seeds okay if the seller had a statement that
your purchase may contain seeds, or something to that affect. A
disclaimer?

lampost
02-10-2010, 01:08 PM
I would consider a few seeds okay if the seller had a statement that
your purchase may contain seeds, or something to that affect. A
disclaimer?

Agreed. And as long as it's not more than the 2-3 seeds per eigth as mentioned.

Reenster
02-10-2010, 05:28 PM
I agree with letting people know if their purchase has a good possibility of containing seeds. I use a grinder on almost everything I consume and I hate when the grinder finds seeds that I missed. If I know there is a good chance that I would find seeds, I diffently would take a closer look at what I was grinding.

On a side note, it's been my experience with Cinderella 99 and several crosses of that strain that seeds happen.

palerider7777
02-11-2010, 01:37 AM
If you get seeds off a hermie caused by stress, does that gaurantee a hermie will grow? I guess I've never really gotten a straight answer about that. Usually when I find a seed It's the only one in the whole ounce. I figure its just some sort of anamoly, but I do know that when I get seeds in this fashion they are almost always viable.

Over the last 3 months I've collected 3 seeds total. Cali Mist, Jack the Ripper, and Strawberry Kush. I mixed the damn things up though :(

anyways Im getting a little off topic, so im done. :thumbsup:

well look at it like this if it's from stress you would have to know how much.if it's an unstable strain where the breeding was'nt done right or it's just a very picky strain would you really want to grow it out?herms can come from many diffrent things.if the seeds are from the herm plant it's self then yes it would make it that much more prone to do the same.if it's pollen from a herm plant to another clean plant i still would'nt trust it. thats hermy prone pollen tranzfer to a clean plant you would think that some of the herm plant makeup would be in the clean plants offsprings dna? i would think...

don't know how much you know about breeding but it does factor in for the stability of the plant and it's offspring.

TheReleafCenter
02-11-2010, 06:16 PM
Thx for the feedback. It's hard to explain to some people that in a room of frustrated women, shit happens occasionally.

palerider7777
02-11-2010, 08:00 PM
Thx for the feedback. It's hard to explain to some people that in a room of frustrated women, shit happens occasionally.

lmao and thats double time in real life lmao.

MEDEDCANNABIS
02-11-2010, 08:55 PM
you can find stable bagseed however the tendency will be the latter. if your growing you could always pick bananas and save pollen to sprinkle on your original cuts to get female seeds (if its stress induced hermie). one or two seeds no big deal though. take a look at schwag it has multiple generations of herm traits in its breeding history those seeds are a 99% hermie rate. i do think that the burden of reputation is on the grower no matter what your buying. if you take pride in your grow then you will approach your clientelle with humility and explain things. god honest testers are also worth their weight in gold. good bud is grown stress free in proper form and dried and cured to perfection anything else is second rate.

meded so you can mededicate to mededitate

MEDEDCANNABIS
02-11-2010, 08:55 PM
you can find stable bagseed however the tendency will be the latter. if your growing you could always pick bananas and save pollen to sprinkle on your original cuts to get female seeds (if its stress induced hermie). one or two seeds no big deal though. take a look at schwag it has multiple generations of herm traits in its breeding history those seeds are a 99% hermie rate. i do think that the burden of reputation is on the grower no matter what your buying. if you take pride in your grow then you will approach your clientelle with humility and explain things. good honest testers are also worth their weight in gold. good bud is grown stress free in proper form and dried and cured to perfection anything else is second rate.

meded so you can mededicate to mededitate

MEDEDCANNABIS
02-11-2010, 08:57 PM
oops:cool:

davo420
02-13-2010, 08:25 PM
If I was told in advance and it was weighed a little heavy I would have no problem.

:thumbsup:

KindReviews
02-20-2010, 03:58 PM
I say no way. If it's top shelf absolutely no seeds. Hermie is a little different because with all the crosses out there it's inevitable that it's gonna happen. To me if it's potent hermie is ok, but seeds never.

TheStrainMan
02-20-2010, 04:30 PM
Interesting question. I think it's OK if it's really good smoke and the patient is told up front. Then let the market decide. Many folks I know would be thrilled to get a few beaners in a kind kind bag. Certainly some nugs out there are so nice that I can deal with a few beans, but that is very rare with all the sinsi around.

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PufferLungs
02-20-2010, 08:36 PM
I found 6 seeds in 1/8 of Afgooey (sp?). This was a few months ago. Didn't bother me. He didn't tell me it had seeds in it - but he knew it because I mentioned it the next time I was in that store and he didn't deny it. He said some of them had hermied from light shock.

Then I remembered when I bought it he was telling me how it was 1g over. So I concluded he knew it at the time he was selling it to me and he purposefully weighed it over by 1g to compensate. But he said nothing until I returned the next time and casually mentioned it. He did offer to buy the seeds back. but I'm saving them.

How long do seeds keep? How should I store them? I may have to store them for 6 months.