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YoureThirst
01-29-2010, 05:49 AM
Hey guys, would anyone mind telling me the best way to pack a bowl? I notice some people do it differently and was wondering whats the most efficient. Also is it that much better to have a grinder?

bigtopsfinn
01-29-2010, 10:31 AM
I think weed burns and tastes best when it's ground, not to a powder but calyx sized pieces, a little smaller than a pepper grain. Grinder is better because you won't be getting the oil from your fingers on the buds and you won't get the THC from the bud on your fingers.

Before and after grinding I try to take out as much stem material as possible. You can save up the stems and make hash or brownies or whatever concentrate you want, you'll just need a lot of it before it's worth it.

Personally when smoking from a bowl, I try to never put the direct flame on the weed itself. Instead I keep it hovered above and inhale, and this will vaporize the weed slower than straight torching it. It will also give you more smoke from one bowl.

Happy smoking :jointsmile:

BlueBlazer
01-29-2010, 12:41 PM
. . . and you won't get the THC from the bud on your fingers.

Party pooper. ;)

I watched a documentary on growing pot and a woman was interviewing someone in Canada that had an enormous grow op. When he showed her the plants that were almost ready to harvest, he had her grab a bud in her hands to feel how sticky it was. LOL . . . about 5 or 10 minutes later in the interview the woman was wandering around saying, "these plants are beautiful." She was "in the zone." :stoned:

bigtopsfinn
01-29-2010, 01:20 PM
Party pooper. ;)

I watched a documentary on growing pot and a woman was interviewing someone in Canada that had an enormous grow op. When he showed her the plants that were almost ready to harvest, he had her grab a bud in her hands to feel how sticky it was. LOL . . . about 5 or 10 minutes later in the interview the woman was wandering around saying, "these plants are beautiful." She was "in the zone." :stoned:

haha, in the zone is right! My wife helped me trim my harvest last time. She doesn't smoke, I told her to use gloves but she said she didn't need them, after about an hour she was WASTED :stoned:

BlueBlazer
01-29-2010, 02:16 PM
haha, in the zone is right! My wife helped me trim my harvest last time. She doesn't smoke, I told her to use gloves but she said she didn't need them, after about an hour she was WASTED :stoned:

That's funny! Bet she'll wear gloves next time . . . or did she like it? :thumbsup:

My cousins once had a guerrilla grow that they harvested without gloves. They got so wasted they had to sit in their van and wait about 3 hours before they could drive out.

bigtopsfinn
01-29-2010, 03:24 PM
. . or did she like it? :thumbsup:

She won't admit it ;)

But she's gotta like it somehow to put up with me :rastasmoke:

BTW :sorry1: for the threadjack YoureThirst!

YoureThirst
01-29-2010, 05:11 PM
oh haha no problem!! I think my method of the size of the green that I'm putting into my bowl is the problem. I usually just grab a nug and break it up into the size of... hmm.. I guess a little smaller than popcorn (before its actually popcorn, the little brown seeds or whatever.) and get a few good hits out of it.

Whats the best way to pack it in the bottom? I've had people tell me to use stems so nothing goes through but I wasnt sure if that was right lol.

jimmy8778
01-29-2010, 05:48 PM
alright, here is my personal way of doing it, if your not using screens, you take your nug and break off a tiny bit, bigger than the hole, but only slightly, then you start grinding your weed, after breaking it up by hand, or grinder, i use a grinder, you are left with an assortment of different sized peices and flakes/leaves. i typically will heap it into a pile, stirring a few times, this helps the big pieces to the top, and the shake to the bottom, i then pack the bowl using the pile, piling it from big pieces to little bits of shake, and if its on a surface, ill slide the shake to the top of the bowl, or if its in my grinder ill tip the grider out gently. I will then get a non-stick surface, like the end of a pen, or the cap to eyedrops and softly pack the bowl down, i dont give it a lot of force, but more of a gentle pressure to make sure the weed has settled evenly. then i light, gingerly, most of the time the kieffy bit is just trichs so you dont want to burn them.

ForgetClassC
01-29-2010, 05:56 PM
I use small scissors and hold the bud's by the stems. I use scissors because of the less surface area that is in contact with the buds, meaning less tricomes being broken and less THC being placed elsewhere than my bloodstream.

-C

Faddenator
01-29-2010, 06:00 PM
oh haha no problem!! I think my method of the size of the green that I'm putting into my bowl is the problem. I usually just grab a nug and break it up into the size of... hmm.. I guess a little smaller than popcorn (before its actually popcorn, the little brown seeds or whatever.) and get a few good hits out of it.

Whats the best way to pack it in the bottom? I've had people tell me to use stems so nothing goes through but I wasnt sure if that was right lol.

The problem with stems in the bottom is if you take a big rip at the end of the bowl, the stem will burn up, crumble, and send all the loose ash sitting on top of it flying into your mouth (Idk if its a popular term, but around here we call it a scoobying/scooby/scooby snack). It also possible to train yourself to hit slowly at the end of the bowl to prevent scoobies. Bigtop's method of "vaporizing" the weed with the lighter works REALLY well also.

I personally would go with a glass screen, available at ANY headshop for about a dollar.

Btw, we like to call the little brown popcorn seeds "kernels". :thumbsup:

BlueBlazer
01-29-2010, 09:30 PM
I personally would go with a glass screen, available at ANY headshop for about a dollar.

I always use metal screens. I wasn't aware that there were glass screens. Judging from the price, they must be better. What's the advantage?

Faddenator
01-30-2010, 04:35 AM
I always use metal screens. I wasn't aware that there were glass screens. Judging from the price, they must be better. What's the advantage?

They're just easy to clean... quick scraping with a paper clip, or a little acetone bath every ten uses or so, and you have a brand new screen! can't exactly do that with a metal screen, and they get messy. But its just my preference, a few of my friends prefer metal too.

As long as you can keep good track of tiny things, it's a decent investment. :thumbsup:

Reefer Rogue
02-01-2010, 03:43 PM
if you're a serious stoner you'll buy a grinder with a kief catcher and grind every single bowl you smoke because the kief that collects is top notch and 1 hit shit. grind every bowl, you get more surface area

ForgetClassC
02-02-2010, 01:45 AM
if you're a serious stoner you'll buy a grinder with a kief catcher and grind every single bowl you smoke because the kief that collects is top notch and 1 hit shit. grind every bowl, you get more surface area

Whats the surface area have to do with anything? I don't see the reason of keifing pot, your gonna smoke it for a reason, why take some reason off of it?

-C

jimmy8778
02-02-2010, 02:22 AM
Whats the surface area have to do with anything? I don't see the reason of keifing pot, your gonna smoke it for a reason, why take some reason off of it?

-C

well, true it does mean your losing something, for the time being. As for the surface area, the more surface area, the more flame hits the weed, thus it lights easier, so you dont have to torch it the same time with the flame, a real waste, it starts an ember burning, and with the evenly ground weed, it leads to the cherry forming and not having to use a lighter. easier that is. Also burns more evenly.

as for the kief, you may smoke more green now, but the high you get from kief and leafy weed is way different in my opinion, and there is nothing like being able to pack a bowl, and then put kief on top of it and get wrecked sometimes.

depending on your method of breaking up, and also what type of weed you have depends on the kief you get, without the screen a lot of that kief you say we are wasting would get dumped on a table or surface, never to be packed up, or left on a finger, only to get brushed off, whereas, keeping it in a secured container, makes it accessible for later use.

oh, and when your done grinding your weed, put 2 nickels in the holding part with the weed, and give it a good shake, all the kief falls off and gets pushed through the screen, thus it seems like there is more kief, when in reality, it has just fallen through the screen.

Reefer Rogue
02-03-2010, 11:07 AM
Whats the surface area have to do with anything? I don't see the reason of keifing pot, your gonna smoke it for a reason, why take some reason off of it?

-C

Surface area has less to do with it but the weed burns easier when it's finely ground as opposed to putting in a fat nug by itself. I definately recommend every1 get a kief catcher grinder. say you buy an 8th and grind every bowl or whatever, at the end of the bag, your left with at least a bowls worth of banging kief. ! hit of that shit will put you on your ass. swear down i got high 3 different times from one bowl of kief. It's well worth it, all you have to do is grind your herb, it's easy.

Faddenator
02-05-2010, 05:14 PM
Surface area has less to do with it but the weed burns easier when it's finely ground as opposed to putting in a fat nug by itself. I definately recommend every1 get a kief catcher grinder. say you buy an 8th and grind every bowl or whatever, at the end of the bag, your left with at least a bowls worth of banging kief. ! hit of that shit will put you on your ass. swear down i got high 3 different times from one bowl of kief. It's well worth it, all you have to do is grind your herb, it's easy.

Not to mention, If you save up a whole bunch of it... There is NOTHING better for cooking killer brownies - or anything for that matter - than kief. Whatever you cook ends up a lot more potent, and the flavor is way better.

I've even successfully sprinkled some under my tongue and gotten a pretty decent buzz from it.

I don't think this is necessary to be a "serious stoner" (whatever that means), but kief is definitely good stuff.

BlueBlazer
02-06-2010, 12:04 AM
I've even successfully sprinkled some under my tongue and gotten a pretty decent buzz from it.

Kief snuff. :S2:


Just a pinch between my cheek and gums does it. :thumbsup:

Groooovy
02-06-2010, 01:24 AM
its all about surface area, what i do is i rip the nug with my fingers, not too much though.... set the weed in the bowl and lightly pack it but not so much because you want air flow underneath each layer which will save your weed and will get you more high. Although a grinder is nice because you can always sprinkle the keif on top:rastasmoke:

Reefer Rogue
02-06-2010, 09:01 PM
Not to mention, If you save up a whole bunch of it... There is NOTHING better for cooking killer brownies - or anything for that matter - than kief. Whatever you cook ends up a lot more potent, and the flavor is way better.

I've even successfully sprinkled some under my tongue and gotten a pretty decent buzz from it.

I don't think this is necessary to be a "serious stoner" (whatever that means), but kief is definitely good stuff.

Knowing what kief is, creating your own kief, these are traits of a more serious stoner then a recreational user who just smokes a bowl every now and then. There is a difference between an occasional smoker and a connoiseur. Someone who knows what sativa and indica are, what thc stands for, what an ounce weighs. Multible variables as what makes a stoner a stoner. Knowledge is gained through experience. This is advice for all the young stoners and those who don't use kief catcher grinders because i didn't always. Now, i will always. Here's a pic of some i've collected from a few bags. can't wait to smoke it when i'm all out.