THE TRUTH OF DOC MARIJUANA SEMINAR

[clonequeen]

Senorx, you went to the seminar...after all doc marijuana and his contreversy, tell me the truth senor x, what kind of person do you think he is? Is he the terrible monster everybody made him out to be, or does he seem like a good person?
Could people be a bit one sided? Do you really think he was going to get personal details to cause someone harm?
Honesty please, shoot straight from the hips, now that you have met the man yourself?

Did you learn today? Was it worth the $250...and did he seem to be doing it just to make money?

Where would you put him on the scale of experienced growers? I think we can all agree it's possible he's not the world's best, but where would you rank his knowledge?

Oh, and he certainly isn't the sort of guy to take himself so seriously he would gloat about family ancestory egotistically....in retrospect, couldn't his last post about God being on his side been a joke?? Now that you met him, you tell me senorx, do you think...HE WAS SERIOUS??
Just tell us, what kind of guy was he?

[Spacedet01]

IMHO..He was banned for how he acted here. For the internet threats he issued and for the negativity he brought. I dont think Im alone saying that people are glad he is gone. Either way I think DocMMJ is a dead issue and should be left as such. Would be a shame to see more banning when its not necessary.

SC

[senorx12562]

I'm really pissed off and frustrated right now, because I spent about 2 hours drafting a review of this seminar only for it to be zapped out of existence when I somehow got redirected by this website. So now you get the way- shortened version (And you are all probably saying, "THANK GOD").

No, Dana is not a monster, nor did I ever think he was. What he is is something of a hot head who doesn't like to be questioned or disagreed with (and who among us does, right?). In fact I think he's a pretty nice guy who's heart is in the right place, whose rants on this site were an emotional response. Whether he meant them or not, I can't say, as I can't get inside others' heads. I try to say what I mean, and mean what I say, and assume others do also.

Now the class. Since I refuse to retype my previous post ( hunt and peck barely describes my sad typing and computer skills) I'll cut to the chase. Yes, the class assumed no knowledge on the part of the attendees, although many were experienced growers. Although it is apparent that Dana really knows his shit, and has his method down to a science, the presentation was a little disorganized, a lot of which was due to questions from the audience of 50-60 getting him off track and behind. I think some details were skipped due to subsequent time constraints. I got the impression that this class has not been given before, and will get better with practice. There were other speakers, who were worth listening to, but didn't talk much about growing.

As to Dana's way of growing, basically it's an aeroponic sea of green with supplemental CO2. Rooted clones directly to flower, and he claims 7-8 lbs. every 45 days, from either 36 or 60 plants, which was not clear. Either way, those 8 oz. buds in the bowl must be exceptional even for him based on these numbers. That being said, over time that's a pretty phenomenal yield. Although he claims to follow the principles of KISS and less is more, an aeroponic sea of green with automated controllers, CO2 burners and an RO water purification system is hardly simple, or at all suited to beginners. The 45 day time frame means he's only growing short flowering indicas, and he was pretty openly hostile to organic nutrients, insisting that they aren't necessary instead of telling us how to incorporate them into his system to meet the perception of patients that that is important.

Whether the class is worth the money is hard to say. Since he kindly allowed me to attend at no charge, sure it was. If I had paid, probably not. However, that is only because at this time I have no interest in (or $ for) buying all the equipment necessary for his method, although maybe in the future. When I did all my research before setting up my grow, it was pretty clear that if yield is one's #1 priority, aeroponics and CO2 supplementation were the way to go. I made a conscious decision to give up potential yield for the sake of $ and more importantly, to make for a set up that would be forgiving of the inevitable screw-ups. Going directly into flower is just not possible with soil because of how much longer it takes a good root system to develop in soil vs. aeroponically. That makes the class less valuable to me right now than it might be to others. I did enjoy meeting all of the presenters and my fellow attendees, and the enjoyment factor is important, too. I suppose overall, yeah it was worth it, and if I had paid for it I wouldn't feel fleeced, especially if I hadn't already set up my grow. I will answer any questions any of you may have, just post them in this thread. Thank Dana again for me please, clonequeen.

[palerider7777]

I'm really pissed off and frustrated right now, because I spent about 2 hours drafting a review of this seminar only for it to be zapped out of existence when I somehow got redirected by this website. So now you get the way- shortened version (And you are all probably saying, "THANK GOD").

No, Dana is not a monster, nor did I ever think he was. What he is is something of a hot head who doesn't like to be questioned or disagreed with (and who among us does, right?). In fact I think he's a pretty nice guy who's heart is in the right place, whose rants on this site were an emotional response. Whether he meant them or not, I can't say, as I can't get inside others' heads. I try to say what I mean, and mean what I say, and assume others do also.

Now the class. Since I refuse to retype my previous post ( hunt and peck barely describes my sad typing and computer skills) I'll cut to the chase. Yes, the class assumed no knowledge on the part of the attendees, although many were experienced growers. Although it is apparent that Dana really knows his shit, and has his method down to a science, the presentation was a little disorganized, a lot of which was due to questions from the audience of 50-60 getting him off track and behind. I think some details were skipped due to subsequent time constraints. I got the impression that this class has not been given before, and will get better with practice. There were other speakers, who were worth listening to, but didn't talk much about growing.

As to Dana's way of growing, basically it's an aeroponic sea of green with supplemental CO2. Rooted clones directly to flower, and he claims 7-8 lbs. every 45 days, from either 36 or 60 plants, which was not clear. Either way, those 8 oz. buds in the bowl must be exceptional even for him based on these numbers. That being said, over time that's a pretty phenomenal yield. Although he claims to follow the principles of KISS and less is more, an aeroponic sea of green with automated controllers, CO2 burners and an RO water purification system is hardly simple, or at all suited to beginners. The 45 day time frame means he's only growing short flowering indicas, and he was pretty openly hostile to organic nutrients, insisting that they aren't necessary instead of telling us how to incorporate them into his system to meet the perception of patients that that is important.

Whether the class is worth the money is hard to say. Since he kindly allowed me to attend at no charge, sure it was. If I had paid, probably not. However, that is only because at this time I have no interest in (or $ for) buying all the equipment necessary for his method, although maybe in the future. When I did all my research before setting up my grow, it was pretty clear that if yield is one's #1 priority, aeroponics and CO2 supplementation were the way to go. I made a conscious decision to give up potential yield for the sake of $ and more importantly, to make for a set up that would be forgiving of the inevitable screw-ups. Going directly into flower is just not possible with soil because of how much longer it takes a good root system to develop in soil vs. aeroponically. That makes the class less valuable to me right now than it might be to others. I did enjoy meeting all of the presenters and my fellow attendees, and the enjoyment factor is important, too. I suppose overall, yeah it was worth it, and if I had paid for it I wouldn't feel fleeced, especially if I hadn't already set up my grow. I will answer any questions any of you may have, just post them in this thread. Thank Dana again for me please, clonequeen.

i was gunna go but the past 3 days iv'e been sicker than a girl that works in the red light district.been coughing so much my throat is so sore that i can't even talk.im pissed to cause i wanted to go.i would have forced myself to go cause thats how i am but i did'nt want to get anyone else sick.maybe next time.

first a couple ?? about the workshop,was there any lawyers there to speak?thats what i really wanted to go so as to ask ??but i also wanted to see dana's setup but from what you said above it sounds close to my very first setup and what i used b4 i came here."did'nt have the money to do the whole setup over again atm because all my gear was crushed in fla".anyways my setup was/is dwc x aero combo.

and senorx i have a friend that lives in iowa he's been growing for 30+ years he was so hell bent on soil.everytime i would say hey u need to try my setup or any hydro set up he would say nope soil is best.then after i started to show him my grows he tried it and now he says he did'nt know why he stuck so close to soil other than he's just an old dog that did'nt want to go outside of that comfort zone.now he says he will never grow in soil again other than his outdoor grows.at first he did'nt want to try it cause he said it looked way to hard and so much more to do.really it is'nt to me it's alot easier.and indoors all the mess that comes with soil.

another funny thing is u hear people talk about i want organic hydro is junk soil is the best blah blah.i have a uncle that grew in soil for 15+ years.i took him some of my first grow done in hydro with a/n nutes and he swore up and down it was soil grown.

[senorx12562]

i was gunna go but the past 3 days iv'e been sicker than a girl that works in the red light district.been coughing so much my throat is so sore that i can't even talk.im pissed to cause i wanted to go.i would have forced myself to go cause thats how i am but i did'nt want to get anyone else sick.maybe next time.

first a couple ?? about the workshop,was there any lawyers there to speak?thats what i really wanted to go so as to ask ??but i also wanted to see dana's setup but from what you said above it sounds close to my very first setup and what i used b4 i came here."did'nt have the money to do the whole setup over again atm because all my gear was crushed in fla".anyways my setup was/is dwc x aero combo.

and senorx i have a friend that lives in iowa he's been growing for 30+ years he was so hell bent on soil.everytime i would say hey u need to try my setup or any hydro set up he would say nope soil is best.then after i started to show him my grows he tried it and now he says he did'nt know why he stuck so close to soil other than he's just an old dog that did'nt want to go outside of that comfort zone.now he says he will never grow in soil again other than his outdoor grows.at first he did'nt want to try it cause he said it looked way to hard and so much more to do.really it is'nt to me it's alot easier.and indoors all the mess that comes with soil.

another funny thing is u hear people talk about i want organic hydro is junk soil is the best blah blah.i have a uncle that grew in soil for 15+ years.i took him some of my first grow done in hydro with a/n nutes and he swore up and down it was soil grown.
Rob Corry was the first speaker, and did take questions, but there were many more questions than time to answer them, since it was supposed to be a grow seminar. I found it ironic and something of a non-sequitur that although he implored us all to pay our taxes in order to help legitimize the mmj business, he admitted when pressed that by doing so you may be admitting to a Federal felony should the next administration not be as inclined to look the other way.

As to the organic thing, I'm more concerned with what the patients want. If they think it's important, then it is important, whether it would be important to me or not. Perception is reality.

I am pretty tired of lugging and cleaning up soil, especially since I just finished planting a bunch of clones which meant lugging 5 bags of soil around my house and up and down stairs. Although I am too old for that shit, I can't afford a $1200 aeroponic system, or the risk of power outage, pump failure, or operator error causing the loss of a whole crop. I may down the road try out a small system, but not for a while yet.

[palerider7777]

Rob Corry was the first speaker, and did take questions, but there were many more questions than time to answer them, since it was supposed to be a grow seminar. I found it ironic and something of a non-sequitur that although he implored us all to pay our taxes in order to help legitimize the mmj business, he admitted when pressed that by doing so you may be admitting to a Federal felony should the next administration not be as inclined to look the other way.

As to the organic thing, I'm more concerned with what the patients want. If they think it's important, then it is important, whether it would be important to me or not. Perception is reality.

I am pretty tired of lugging and cleaning up soil, especially since I just finished planting a bunch of clones which meant lugging 5 bags of soil around my house and up and down stairs. Although I am too old for that shit, I can't afford a $1200 aeroponic system, or the risk of power outage, pump failure, or operator error causing the loss of a whole crop. I may down the road try out a small system, but not for a while yet.

YOU DON'T NEED 1200 you have the lights already from what im guessing as your growing inside? and worrying about power outtage not really as now if it happens u lose your lights anyways.and your plants are ok for half a day or so if it did happen. with my setup your looking at 120 for nutes 140$ for bins airstones,air pump to run stones. a basic ph,tds pin 80to 100.if you wanted co2 setup thats 250 for full tank/reg. around 600 total and this setup would do 8 to 10 plants.now if u needed to buy light setup then yea.

[senorx12562]

YOU DON'T NEED 1200 you have the lights already from what im guessing as your growing inside? and worrying about power outtage not really as now if it happens u lose your lights anyways.and your plants are ok for half a day or so if it did happen. with my setup your looking at 120 for nutes 140$ for bins airstones,air pump to run stones. a basic ph,tds pin 80to 100.if you wanted co2 setup thats 250 for full tank/reg. around 600 total and this setup would do 8 to 10 plants.now if u needed to buy light setup then yea.
The aeroflow system that this guy was pumping up costs $1200. That's what I referred to because we were discussing the seminar. Like I said down the road maybe. Thanks for the suggestions though.

[lampost]

The aeroflow system that this guy was pumping up costs $1200. That's what I referred to because we were discussing the seminar. Like I said down the road maybe. Thanks for the suggestions though.

So what exactly is the difference between aeroponics and hydroponics?

[clonequeen]

Hey all, DocMMJ wanted me to convey something to all of you. I quote" I'd like to offer my sincere apologies to everyone for getting a little PO'd when thought I was beinging attacked a bit. I should have risen above it. It had been a stressful couple weeks having had the clone queen actually die in my arms the day before the posting due to a siezure. I hope senor, you heard enough from others to realize I have been fighting the good fight for many years. As far as, the seminar being a little scattered, you're right. I did it as a favor and was basicaly awake for two weeks putting it together. My cut? $250 because someone brought a money order with my name on it. The rest went to help others. It is unfortunate I won't be here (on cannabis.com)to help those who could use my experience. Although I do think this style is the best way for many reasons it is by no means the only way I have grown. Senor, thank you for your honesty. And my point about organics was simply this, just because it's not organic doesn't make it bad, many product that are man made are just fine. There is certainly a need for organic growers, just don't like "Hype Words" that can be misleading.

Again my appologize. Dana

[palerider7777]

So what exactly is the difference between aeroponics and hydroponics?

well true aero is done with foggers in the chamber and it works very well it keep the roots at there max in way of uptake of nutes/oxygen. then there the misters that spray nutes onto your root system at all times.again max uptake of all/most elements.hydro is more keeping your roots submersed in your nutes at all times or flood and drain.then u have nft nute film technique.

the goal with all this unlike soil is to get as much oxygen to the root system as possible.with soil you try to do this with things like perlite and such but u can only do so much in soil.

[palerider7777]

Hey all, DocMMJ wanted me to convey something to all of you. I quote" I'd like to offer my sincere apologies to everyone for getting a little PO'd when thought I was beinging attacked a bit. I should have risen above it. It had been a stressful couple weeks having had the clone queen actually die in my arms the day before the posting due to a siezure. I hope senor, you heard enough from others to realize I have been fighting the good fight for many years. As far as, the seminar being a little scattered, you're right. I did it as a favor and was basicaly awake for two weeks putting it together. My cut? $250 because someone brought a money order with my name on it. The rest went to help others. It is unfortunate I won't be here (on cannabis.com)to help those who could use my experience. Although I do think this style is the best way for many reasons it is by no means the only way I have grown. Senor, thank you for your honesty. And my point about organics was simply this, just because it's not organic doesn't make it bad, many product that are man made are just fine. There is certainly a need for organic growers, just don't like "Hype Words" that can be misleading.

Again my appologize. Dana
most nutes run a fine line between organic and non organic.you know what deems most nutes non organic??? it has alil bit more carbon elements to it thats it.it's all organic in most ways.

[lampost]

well true aero is done with foggers in the chamber and it works very well it keep the roots at there max in way of uptake of nutes/oxygen. then there the misters that spray nutes onto your root system at all times.again max uptake of all/most elements.hydro is more keeping your roots submersed in your nutes at all times or flood and drain.then u have nft nute film technique.

the goal with all this unlike soil is to get as much oxygen to the root system as possible.with soil you try to do this with things like perlite and such but u can only do so much in soil.

thanks. i see where you could huge yields doing that because your plant is constantly feeding. so the foggers fill the root chamber with mist... are these on timers so the roots are able to get oxygen occasionally too?

[palerider7777]

thanks. i see where you could huge yields doing that because your plant is constantly feeding. so the foggers fill the root chamber with mist... are these on timers so the roots are able to get oxygen occasionally too?

no constant feed they get tons of oxygen as it's in mist form oxygen is mixed in at a great rate.in hydroponics where the roots stay submersed thats where you need air stones to keep the air pumping into the roots at all times.like diving with air tanks we can stay under water for long times as we have oxygen to keep us alive pretty much the same with the roots. now with ebb and flow"flood/drain" this would be the case having the timer as there is no air supplied to the roots when the tray is full.so they drain the table to allow the roots to breathe.

ps now true aero with the foggers can be a bit pricey those fogger units are'nt cheap.thats why i use misters.i do a aero"misters"dwc combo.

[justinsane33]

hydro gives me headaches if i smoke it all day. bout the only reason i prefer soil.

[FarmerSteve]

Hey all, DocMMJ wanted me to convey something to all of you. I quote" I'd like to offer my sincere apologies to everyone for getting a little PO'd when thought I was beinging attacked a bit. I should have risen above it. It had been a stressful couple weeks having had the clone queen actually die in my arms the day before the posting due to a siezure. I hope senor, you heard enough from others to realize I have been fighting the good fight for many years. As far as, the seminar being a little scattered, you're right. I did it as a favor and was basicaly awake for two weeks putting it together. My cut? $250 because someone brought a money order with my name on it. The rest went to help others. It is unfortunate I won't be here (on cannabis.com)to help those who could use my experience. Although I do think this style is the best way for many reasons it is by no means the only way I have grown. Senor, thank you for your honesty. And my point about organics was simply this, just because it's not organic doesn't make it bad, many product that are man made are just fine. There is certainly a need for organic growers, just don't like "Hype Words" that can be misleading.

Again my appologize. Dana

Wow, this is weird. I think I said something to Doc in another thread, just kinda joking with him about his family tree and what it means. And then I see in this thread that he's banned and made threats against people. I hope I wasn't involved in that. I was in no way attacking the man, just asking a question.

Either way CloneQueen, I respect you both for what you have done for MMJ and Colorado as a whole. It's real easy for people to jump on the bandwagon now that it's legal, or at least to be more colorful about their support. I know I am. Speaking as the child of a person who spent 7 of their first 17 years of adulthood in prison for nothing but marijuana charges, I understand to some degree how hard it was, and you two both have all my respect and admiration. Thank you for your work.

I bet Doc knows a LOT. That's a lot of years, and I'm sure he knows the deal. I was just surprised how combative he was, and I was trying to lighten the subject. Please extend my apologies if he was offended.

Thanks for the report Senor!

[palerider7777]

hydro gives me headaches if i smoke it all day. bout the only reason i prefer soil.

lmao,i think u need to read up more on it then cause the word "hydro" is just the growing proccess.you can still be 100% organic in hydro it just takes extra time and care as organic nutes for hydroponics has no ph buffers. so to say "hydro"gives u headaches can be somewhat misleading.now if you was to have said non organic hydro gives me headaches then that would make sense.

ps you do know there is non organic soil grown meds too right??i can't blame you tho thats what happens with street talk and if you don't take it into your own hands to research it then most of the time one just ends up repeating what was told to them as to how/why things are what they are.

soil/hydroponics are just growing mediums thats it.you feed the medium it feeds the plant.

[Vancefish]

It had been a stressful couple weeks having had the clone queen actually die in my arms the day before the posting due to a siezure.

Are you saying Clonequeen died? As in actually dead? Because this post is FROM Clonequeen. Thus clonequeen is reporting Clonequeen died in WHO's arms?:wtf:

[senorx12562]

Are you saying Clonequeen died? As in actually dead? Because this post is FROM Clonequeen. Thus clonequeen is reporting Clonequeen died in WHO's arms?:wtf:
I'm assuming he means she had to be revived, as I met and talked with her on Saturday. And for all who don't know, she is Dana's wife.

[Vancefish]

Ah, ok.

Not trying to be cold. I just found that statement kind of shocking.

I had a co-worker who died recently of liver cancer. No one even knew he HAD cancer until the day before he died of it. He's now dead! As in NOT alive anymore.

I also had a friend with seizures, slip in the shower during a seizure, 3 years ago. She was home alone slipped, hit her head, and died. As in dead, as in NOT alive anymore.

If clonequeen died I feel very bad for Dana. I know how such a thing can throw a real big wrench into every aspect of your life. However if Clonequeen is still alive. This statement would really piss me off. Having a seizure and surviving, is not having a seizure and then being all out dead as the statement says.

So, I hope clonequeen is not dead.
If clonequeen had a seizure and survived. Sorry to hear that too.

[clonequeen]

Ah, ok.

Not trying to be cold. I just found that statement kind of shocking.

I had a co-worker who died recently of liver cancer. No one even knew he HAD cancer until the day before he died of it. He's now dead! As in NOT alive anymore.

I also had a friend with seizures, slip in the shower during a seizure, 3 years ago. She was home alone slipped, hit her head, and died. As in dead, as in NOT alive anymore.

If clonequeen died I feel very bad for Dana. I know how such a thing can throw a real big wrench into every aspect of your life. However if Clonequeen is still alive. This statement would really piss me off. Having a seizure and surviving, is not having a seizure and then being all out dead as the statement says.

So, I hope clonequeen is not dead.
If clonequeen had a seizure and survived. Sorry to hear that too.

Clone Queen here, no, I am still lucky enough to be alive. Senorx was right with reviving. In the past three months I have had three siezures where I stopped breathing and had to be resusitated. The stress he speaks of, has to do with insurance. I have a pre-existing condition, and therefore no insurance...so, the hospital's have the policy of waiting until I flatline to come and get me. It is stressful when you can't take care of the infinite testing procedures you need to do to determine what is wrong, because I basically need a babysitter all the time now while we sort it out.

I understand that it is truely devistating to lose someone, especially as they were alone, in that I am fortunate, but either way, siezures of this kind are absolutly exhausting for all involved. I just lost my father too, and am only 30 years old, so I understand what it's like to watch someone go young. Sometimes it just seems like tragedy hammers your ass. We are coming out of it now. What does not kill you makes you stronger.

[FarmerSteve]

Wow, holy crap CQ, I hope everything gets easier for you both. :hippy:

[clonequeen]

This is Dana, shame I must respond this way. It is sad thing this state of MM in our state. Senor I know you and I didn't see eye to eye, and by the way I had know idea who you were. This is the reason I stay underground for the most part. Senor regaurdless of what you think of me you sat and listened to others speak of the work I've done and yet you said nothing. I have spent my life serving my Country and then the sick with the talents I have. Did anyone mention I am a patient as well, I have RSD just as CQ does.

I have revived her 3 times now and live in fear of losing the woman i love, it is terifying to watch her lay there with blue lips staring at the ceiling dead. At first the seminar was to raise money for her medical treatment and as a favor. I wish I had not done it now.

I am saddened that each time I try to help others it ends up like this. Senor you heard of the work I've done and watched as I tried to help. I regret getting angry but it is hard to sit and be called a liar, a money gruber, and things like that without defending ones self. But I know better and still let it get to me.

I have studied this plant and have given of myself for so long but I am tired now and will pass the torch on. A shame that a person with the experience I have not only growing, but with the legal work I do cannot be seen as a resource instead of a threat to those offended that there just might be someone who really does know what he's talking about.

So to those who are offended by me, you win. I'm done. It is your lose. You should have shared more of the Good Senor because you know the truth.

Hopefully one day as Jimi Hendrix said "when the power of love is greater than the love of power, we will know peace" MM in CO is in bad shape due to ego and politics and it saddens me greatly. My apologize, back underground. Hopefully the cream will rise to the top, I've been waiting a long time. My Love to All Fighting the Good Fight. Good Bye Dana

[clonequeen]

Oh, and the God's on my side WAS A JOKE, perhaps Senor will admit I have a sense of humor. The family ties are however the truth. Later

[senorx12562]

Oh, and the God's on my side WAS A JOKE, perhaps Senor will admit I have a sense of humor. The family ties are however the truth. Later
Actually, Dana was a pretty funny guy and I liked him. Unfortunately, being honest wasn't enough apparently, as now he's pissed off at me. I don't have a clue what I did to deserve that, but so be it. Dana, I'm very sorry that you are sick, and I'm very sorry that your wife is sick. I'm also sorry that you feel unappreciated. However, I am not your publicist, nor do I owe you anything. I have repeatedly thanked you for allowing me to attend your seminar at no charge, and I have repeatedly defended you on this forum and now you get pissed off at me? All I can say is FUCK YOU Dana. All I have done is continually give you the benefit of the doubt, and now I haven't done enough. FUCK YOU!

[clonequeen]

Now that's more like it, FUCK YOU TOO, lol. I'm not pissed at anyone, this shit fades quick in the big picture. Now that I can see your face in the crowd I kind of appreciate your questions. So thanks

Offered teaching job at CFU, Call in talk show with NPR and a local channel I can't mention yet but an old friend. We all know how Nasty Radio can be. So perhaps in a funny way you and ths site have all been my publisist.

I am actualy pleasently surprised at the kind words you DID say, and I am greatful Senor, if I can ever help I would be honored.

The important stuff is community and helping each other. I'll do my part and I know you'll do yours. Imagine for one second and climb outside the box with me. Over 2,000 viewed the thread and emotions were stirred both good and bad. That is always a good thing. An accident Senor?, take a guess but know the Professor is smiling before making up your mind.

THERE WAS A CHAPTER CALLED "WHAT i'VE LEARNED IN 40 YEARS" I left one thing out, getting people to engage in thought is probably the number one thing this band of brothers and sisters needs. Only believe 25% of what you read and half of what you see. Things are not always as they appear? If you could see me now you would see a smile from ear to ear, you've seen before my friend. My Love to you, and best wishes.

And now I haven't done enough. FUCK YOU TOO, Just know I'm smiling when I say it. lol Maybe more brains cells left then you all thought, perhaps a wiser old fox than you thought. hehehe "Outside the box my friends, you have my email for questions and help, AS ALWAYS

[davo420]

Can we let this thread die already???

:toilet_claw:

[FakeBoobsRule]

I agree Davo, let it die or fade away but that would be too easy.

CloneQueen it's obvious that you and Dana are sharing this account after he used his DocMarijuana account to flame people. It was obvious last week as it is still now. I was extremely busy cleaning up the problem threads and I let you slide because I had more pressing issues to deal with at the time but now you are flaming your own fan club Senorx. I shouldn't have let his post stay either but you brought this all on yourself. It ends now as clonequeen will be sharing the ban Docmarijuana received because you can't just switch accounts due to a ban. Do it again and the time left on your infraction and ban will increase.

Either return with manners and be helpful as you claim you can to help people grow high potency marijuana without completely pushing your class or just go away quietly.

[Vinceborg2050]

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[copobo]

Hey Dana-

An aeroponic Q-

What do you do to control powdery mildew in the high humidity? Do you add anything to the nutes to promote health or stick to strains that are hearty or? What type of nutes do you use?

Closed system?

I wish I wasn't sick as a dog or I would have come to your class. Hopefully you'll do something like that again.

Cheers

[palerider7777]

Hey Dana-

An aeroponic Q-

What do you do to control powdery mildew in the high humidity? Do you add anything to the nutes to promote health or stick to strains that are hearty or? What type of nutes do you use?

Closed system?

I wish I wasn't sick as a dog or I would have come to your class. Hopefully you'll do something like that again.

Cheerssulfer burner can help.

[copobo]

is a sulfur burner something you would do in a home?

if so, what product do you use?

and... that's a remedy. I'm hoping for something systemic and preventative...

[palerider7777]

is a sulfur burner something you would do in a home?

if so, what product do you use?

and... that's a remedy. I'm hoping for something systemic and preventative...

preventative would be keeping you humidity in ck simple. only other thing is sulfer burner.never heard of anything else??never had it so i never got into it that much other than what i already said.