Anyone try an Arizer Exreme Q Vaporizer [Archive] - Green Grass Forums

420barista

01-07-2010, 07:18 PM

Olla Peeps,

I have been wanting a highly efficient vaporizer, But I dont have 600 bucks to shell out for a volcano. And I have inquired on here as to A good Efficient vape but less $ and was pointed to 3
DBV Da Budda Vape
SSV Silver Surfer Vape
The Arizer Extreme Vape

Now Looking at the DBV and he SSV both are practically Identical except the only difference I can ascertain is the slanted shape of the SSV.

The arizer extreme v3.0 is nice Does whip hits and also does baloons. And has a supposed accurate temp displayed. The DBV and the SSV have a knob with no indications as to temperaure so you need to go thru a trial and error type phase to know what the knob should be at for you.

Now Im searching on ebay for a deal on the Arizer extreme v3.0 and I see
Arizer Extreme Q Which looks nice. A Midnight Chrome Dark Metal Finish

Well Unless Someone Has a New and better Vape to speak of I am going to get an Arizer Extreme v3.0 or an Arizer Extreme Q all depends on the $ currently i see on ebay a new seller with feedback of 1(as a buyer) offering bids on 3 different listings starting at $199 (possible scammer). But there are regular offerings Around 249 from better rated sellers. And the Extreme Q is being offered by one seller who is apparently the only distributor for it. and auction starting out at 260.07us and buy it now for 299. so looking at those prices I will get the exreme if I get it for under 270 otherwise the extreme v3.0 for 250.

Any feedback is appreciated

lwien123

01-07-2010, 07:45 PM

420barista

01-07-2010, 08:15 PM

The Extreme Q just came out so I doubt that anyone has one yet to be able to review it. Should be a great vape but being you mentioned that efficiency is important to you, I suggest that you look at the HerbalAire for an whip/bag combo vape, or a Purple Days, which is one of the most efficient vapes on the planet.

The SSV, Buddha and the Extreme are all great vapes, but efficiency is not one of their strong suits.

Well been looking for the purple Days Vape and cant find one for sale and notice its about 5 years old. I find it strange that a vape that is 5 years old and no one seems to carry it.
Ohh wait I found it. Seems to be exclusively Sold on Herbal Vaporizer Shopping & Reviews @ VapeNow.com (http://www.vapenow.com)
and they are on a 10 week waiting list and increased the price to 180 which to be put on the list you need to shell out. I cant see spending that much and then have to wait 10 weeks (heck you could watch grass grow while waiting) and to wait 10 weeks One needs patience And I have Very Little If any.

lwien123

01-07-2010, 09:19 PM

Well been looking for the purple Days Vape and cant find one for sale and notice its about 5 years old. I find it strange that a vape that is 5 years old and no one seems to carry it.
Ohh wait I found it. Seems to be exclusively Sold on Herbal Vaporizer Shopping & Reviews @ VapeNow.com (http://www.vapenow.com)
and they are on a 10 week waiting list and increased the price to 180 which to be put on the list you need to shell out. I cant see spending that much and then have to wait 10 weeks (heck you could watch grass grow while waiting) and to wait 10 weeks One needs patience And I have Very Little If any.

Another vape that is just as efficient as the Purple Days is the MyrtleZap. Cheaper and no waiting list. Differences are that the Zap uses brass in their bowls and heat exchanger, and the PD uses stainless steel. Also, the warranty on the PD is 12 times as long. Just thought I'd throw out another option.

420barista

01-08-2010, 02:46 AM

Another vape that is just as efficient as the Purple Days is the MyrtleZap. Cheaper and no waiting list. Differences are that the Zap uses brass in their bowls and heat exchanger, and the PD uses stainless steel. Also, the warranty on the PD is 12 times as long. Just thought I'd throw out another option.

Well Other options are what I asked for so it IS appreciated.:rastasmoke:

As for the the difference of Purple Days to MyrtleZap being the Brass vs Stainless Steel Heat Diffuser... Is there a health related concern from heating of the one or the other??? I understand according the Purple days Website is that the brass heat diffuser was 1990 tech and the stainless steel is y2k tech and supposedly the additional fins help to regulae the proper temp. the only thing I dont care for on Purple Days or MyrtleZap is the time it takes to get up to operating temp of 30-40 min Understood that the power consumption is minimal and you can leave it running all day but i feel doing that would affect the longevity hey might offer a 3 year warranty but I Personally hate dealing with waranties finding receipts or records of purchase figuring if its under a warranty and then sending out and waiting on repair. Hey in a perfect world who needs a warranty?

Me still is leaning towards the arizer extreme v3.0 or Arizer Extreme Q. I have heard efficiency is good on the arizer extreme v3.0 and i doubt efficiency would lower on the newer quieter better constructed Q model.

lwien123

01-08-2010, 03:19 AM

the only thing I dont care for on Purple Days or MyrtleZap is the time it takes to get up to operating temp of 30-40 min Understood that the power consumption is minimal and you can leave it running all day but i feel doing that would affect the longevity..

Actually, with electronic components, what causes wear and tear is the temp fluctuations that occur when you turn them off and on. It's the hot to cold and cold to hot, etc etc etc that really puts a strain on them. A constant operating temp is actually less harmful.

420barista

01-08-2010, 05:02 PM

I have noticed your posts in other forums, you seem rather fixated on the purple days and myrtle zap type vapes. Have you ever used any other types?

I have failed to menion that i have tried a vape b4 when they first appeared in the mid 90's. As for the type i was a soldering iron positioned vertically with a metal bowl sitting where the soldering tip should be. and surrounding the apparatus is a glass bowl and a tube out the botom to hit off of. It was so ineffective and inefficient it turned me off the vape scene for years.

MrMojoRisin7127

01-08-2010, 06:00 PM

I have noticed your posts in other forums, you seem rather fixated on the purple days and myrtle zap type vapes. Have you ever used any other types?
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He prefers those vaporizers because they are simply the most efficient on the market. He's just trying to save you some money in the long run.:thumbsup:

I however prefer the monster hits available from the SSV and the DBV. I love them so much in fact that I started selling the units on eBay and in a local headshop. I also just sold my black SSV and upgraded to the pricey limited edition SSV Mind Eraser. :D In over a year of owning my SSV, I have not had one person try it and be disappointed.

EDIT: The SSV does provide bigger hits due to a slightly different wand design.

420barista

01-08-2010, 06:08 PM

He prefers those vaporizers because they are simply the most efficient on the market. He's just trying to save you some money in the long run.:thumbsup:

I however prefer the monster hits available from the SSV and the DBV. I love them so much in fact that I started selling the units on eBay and in a local headshop. I also just sold my black SSV and upgraded to the pricey limited edition SSV Mind Eraser. :D In over a year of owning my SSV, I have not had one person try it and be disappointed.

EDIT: The SSV does provide bigger hits due to a slightly different wand design.

Well I have looked ino the SSV and DBV and liked their ceramic heater but was also told that the same heater is in the Arizer extreme and the v3.0 has the kinks worked out wih displayed temp from v1 and v2 and there is a new Q model out now that is appealing.

MrMojoRisin7127

01-08-2010, 06:23 PM

Well I have looked ino the SSV and DBV and liked their ceramic heater but was also told that the same heater is in the Arizer extreme and the v3.0 has the kinks worked out wih displayed temp from v1 and v2 and there is a new Q model out now that is appealing.

I've read that the glass is super fragile with the Arizer and I don't know how much I trust those digital controls to last forever. The original SSV is still running and hasn't been turned off or anything for like 8 or 9 years.

420barista

01-08-2010, 10:30 PM

Well I guess if I get the Arizer Extreme v3 or Q I will let you all know on here just how good and durable it is. k?

lwien123

01-08-2010, 11:08 PM

I have noticed your posts in other forums, you seem rather fixated on the purple days and myrtle zap type vapes. Have you ever used any other types?

Fixated? LOL. I wouldn't say fixated. The Purple Days is my daily workhorse however just because it's so damn efficient. I also have a VaporGenie, VapoStar, Iolite and a Buddha. For portable use, I really don't like the VaporGenie due to the fact that they're pretty tricky to use on windy days. The Iolite just tastes kinda funky to me and the vapor hits seem too diluted. They vape at too low a temp for my liking. Seriously thinking about getting a LaunchBox though being that they have been getting some rave reviews. I'll whip out the Buddha when I want those super thick bong like rips, but it does that at the sake of efficiency. Being that I'm not a grower, and not rich by any means, getting the most from my bud is very important to me, so I go for the Purple Days 99% of the time.

A close friend of mine has a 'Cano, but the high air to vapor ratio just doesn't do it for me.

So in answer to your question, yes, I own multiple vapes and have used many others and no, I am not fixated on the Purple Days. It just does what I need it to do for me, and that is, it gets me high while conserving my bud.

lwien123

01-08-2010, 11:11 PM

I've read that the glass is super fragile with the Arizer.....

I've heard the same, but I believe that those issues are addressed in the new "Q" model and was one of the main reasons for it being produced. Warranty costs were just getting out of line.

lwien123

01-08-2010, 11:30 PM

He prefers those vaporizers because they are simply the most efficient on the market. He's just trying to save you some money in the long run.:thumbsup:

Yup, Mojo, that's all that I was trying to do. Give the guy the best advice that I can, gained from my experience with many different vapes as well as the tons of reading that I've done on various boards and what I get in return is an accusation that I am obsessed with a Purple Days.

The funny part about this is, is that I could post up a gazillion threads where I have recommended other vapes to users who didn't mention that efficiency was high up on their priority list. If he didn't mention "efficiency" in his original post, I never would have mentioned the PD.

I'm done. At this point, I could give a fuck what he gets. Grrrr....:mad:

420barista

01-08-2010, 11:37 PM

Fixated? LOL. I wouldn't say fixated. The Purple Days is my daily workhorse however just because it's so damn efficient. I also have a VaporGenie, VapoStar, Iolite and a Buddha. For portable use, I really don't like the VaporGenie due to the fact that they're pretty tricky to use on windy days. The Iolite just tastes kinda funky to me and the vapor hits seem too diluted. They vape at too low a temp for my liking. Seriously thinking about getting a LaunchBox though being that they have been getting some rave reviews. I'll whip out the Buddha when I want those super thick bong like rips, but it does that at the sake of efficiency. Being that I'm not a grower, and not rich by any means, getting the most from my bud is very important to me, so I go for the Purple Days 99% of the time.

A close friend of mine has a 'Cano, but the high air to vapor ratio just doesn't do it for me.

So in answer to your question, yes, I own multiple vapes and have used many others and no, I am not fixated on the Purple Days. It just does what I need it to do for me, and that is, it gets me high while conserving my bud.

See thats what I am looking for Good Honest personal prefrences. I know when I usually endevor into something new with out doin the research i spend more than I have to and end up with too many seldom used items gathering dust.

Well Thank you for your info and experience in the vapes If there was no waiting list on the purple days I would go for that cause it sounds like what i need. And good to know on the "cano".
I want hits that do the job and unlike smoking I should be able to handle the vape. So hmmm perhaps I will get 2, Start off with the Arizer Extreme and wait for a purple days.

lwien123

01-08-2010, 11:47 PM

One more bit of "fixated" advice for you. If you want a vape that will give you consistent super thick and rich bong like rips, get the SSV or the Buddha. Vapes like the Extreme or the HerbalAir are great combo whip/direct/bag vapes, but...........they are a jack of all trades and a master at none.

Ok............now I'm done.

420barista

01-09-2010, 12:09 AM

Yup, Mojo, that's all that I was trying to do. Give the guy the best advice that I can, gained from my experience with many different vapes as well as the tons of reading that I've done on various boards and what I get in return is an accusation that I am obsessed with a Purple Days.

The funny part about this is, is that I could post up a gazillion threads where I have recommended other vapes to users who didn't mention that efficiency was high up on their priority list. If he didn't mention "efficiency" in his original post, I never would have mentioned the PD.

I'm done. At this point, I could give a fuck what he gets. Grrrr....:mad:

Dude What do ya want. I come in here among other users of the green goodness. And you spout off the virtues of the purple days. (which is a good unit from what i can see of it) but the couple producing them are 10 weeks back logged according to the website and i sent an email out yesterday and got a responce concerning the waiting time and its still 10 weeks. so if i put an order in for one today 1/08/10 - 3/19/10 would be possible shipping or delivery date.

I did mention efficiency. I also heard the volcano was efficient. Sounds like it isnt according to you and I trust your experience.

Sorry if the mention of the word fixated ruffled some feathers. I am not sorry though because you then showed me the experience you have had with other types of units which is exactely what I needed.

lwien123

01-09-2010, 01:23 AM

Dude What do ya want. I come in here among other users of the green goodness. And you spout off the virtues of the purple days. (which is a good unit from what i can see of it) but the couple producing them are 10 weeks back logged according to the website and i sent an email out yesterday and got a responce concerning the waiting time and its still 10 weeks. so if i put an order in for one today 1/08/10 - 3/19/10 would be possible shipping or delivery date.

And because of that, I gave you another option with the MytrleZap which is just as efficient as the Purple Days.

I'll say it one more time.

If you want efficiency, get a Purple Days or a MyrtleZap.
If you want super rich bong like rips, get an SSV or a Buddha.
If you want a great party vape, get a 'Cano.
If you want a vape that you can hit thru a bong, the best there is the VripTech Heat Wand
If you want a vape that will do bags and whips, but won't do bags as good as a 'Cano and won't do whips as good as a SSV or a Buddha, get the Extreme or the HerbalAir.

Of course, you can just ignore everything I just said. Your choice.

vapefiend

01-09-2010, 03:37 AM

DBV and he SSV both are practically Identical except the only difference I can ascertain is the slanted shape of the SSV. The electrical components and heater are the same, but the DBV is hands free (only), while that's an option with the SSV. The larger opening on the DBV's HF heater cover also gives you more air per hit, so the SSV's hits are more vapor rich, while the DBV's are more predictable. DBV also takes a hair more care during use, due to the horizontal heater angle and ground glass connection (the same would be true for the SSV with the ground glass HF setup, but not the standard).

The arizer extreme v3.0 is nice Does whip hits and also does baloons. And has a supposed accurate temp displayed. The DBV and the SSV have a knob with no indications as to temperaure so you need to go thru a trial and error type phase to know what the knob should be at for you.Actually the Extreme has never displayed the true vaping temp. Version 1 showed the temp at the heater. v2 had the heat sensor a little closer to the bowl. v3 is closer. Any vape, analog or digital, requires the user to find his own preferred temp setting. The actual vaping temp, the temp you get applied to the herb during a hit, also depends on just how hard you draw. Two different draw speeds will produce two different vaping temps. If you want a consistent temp applied every time, with every user, you'd use a vape that fills bags. And the best hits from the Extreme are achieved by packing the elbow screen, not the bowl, and that's even further from the heater. The Extreme's bowl is large, and the unit has fairly large airways, so the direct draw hits aren't as rich as the DBV, let alone the SSV.

You might also want to consider quite a bit more glass, and digital circuitry, with the Extreme, if you want to factor in reliability. Digital's lesser reliability is shown by the Volcano Digit's 2 yr. coverage, vs. 3 for the analog Classic.

Can't beat the E for the best combination of bag and whip delivery, although I'd be sure you're really going to use the bag feature. It's great for group vaping, but most people eventually end up using the whip method for one or two people.

The Extreme Q is going to be the new version of the model, not an additional one. It's the same vape, just improved. Buying v.3 to save $20 or so would be a mistake IMO. eBay prices will get better when it's available from more dealers.

Kartel

01-13-2010, 12:54 AM

I heard the extreme-q ships today!

Anyone know where to buy one? I've been searching for it... its not on arizer's site as far as I can tell.

Thanks! :rastasmoke:

420barista

01-13-2010, 01:39 AM

KJ-Rockwise Essential... is a seller on ebay and an authorized distributer of arizer products in north america. Not to sure though of their prices. They surfaced a few weeks ago when i started this thread and prices were running 299 and no free shipping. and the auction Item was starting at 260 with a buy it now option at 299.

Now as of today i see new 329 prices on their newer lisings as the buy it now. So i suspect after the 299 priced listings expire or sell out we will see 329 as the buy it now for a few months. So if your looking for a deal you need to hope to win an auction if they coninue to offer it On The Extreme Q Model.

Anarchist420

01-17-2010, 11:48 PM

Hey,I've owned the extreme 3.0 since it came out..I couldnt be more happy with it until recently when my fan went out..I contacted the customer support and had a response within 5 hours..They told me what my problem was in most cases and if I would ship it to them they would replace the fan or unit and ship it back to me..I thought this was a great deal..Yes I would have to pay to get it to them but they would fix it or replace it and send it back express mail for free..

Then I came across the Extreme-Q model 77% quieter and has 3 heat sensors and 50% more energy efficient.They also extended the warranty to 3 years and like always life-time on the heater...

I found the Extreme-Q at Extreme Q Vaporizer, Herbalaire, Herb Vaporizer, Digital Herbal Vaporization, VTower For Sale (http://www.greatvape.com) for 299.95 with your choice of a free grinder with free priority shipping or you could just get free overnight shipping..Most places are still charging 299 for the 3.0.

I probally will just save my money and not ship the unit back for repairs and just buy the Extreme-Q I know it will be worth every penny.. :thumbsup:

Anarchist420

01-18-2010, 12:27 AM

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Code: TC10

Also from what I read they are also offering free shipping through Canada Xpresspostâ?¢-USA

MrMojoRisin7127

01-20-2010, 11:11 PM

The electrical components and heater are the same, but the DBV is hands free (only), while that's an option with the SSV. The larger opening on the DBV's HF heater cover also gives you more air per hit, so the SSV's hits are more vapor rich, while the DBV's are more predictable. DBV also takes a hair more care during use, due to the horizontal heater angle and ground glass connection (the same would be true for the SSV with the ground glass HF setup, but not the standard).

The same is not true for the SSV. The ground glass SSV does retain the signature SSV downward angle. It does not require the same amount of extra care as the DBV when inserting/removing the wand.

Taylor
theviseonline.com

vapefiend

01-22-2010, 09:07 PM

The same is not true for the SSV. The ground glass SSV does retain the signature SSV downward angle. It does not require the same amount of extra care as the DBV when inserting/removing the wand.

Taylor
theviseonline.comI never said the SSV w/GG didn't have the same heater angle. And hands free on the SSV may not be as touchy as the DBV, but ANY GG connection takes more care than a standard connection. You're not just making a contact, you're sliding one piece into the other.

MrMojoRisin7127

01-23-2010, 12:19 AM

I never said the SSV w/GG didn't have the same heater angle. And hands free on the SSV may not be as touchy as the DBV, but ANY GG connection takes more care than a standard connection. You're not just making a contact, you're sliding one piece into the other.

Ah I understand. I would definitely agree with the revised statement:thumbsup:! I actually prefer not to use the ground glass because it tends to wear down and slide out of the heater cover after about 6 months of use. Because of the trouble I had with the ground glass, I removed those parts from my SSV. I also do not sell any SSV's with ground glass unless a special request is made. The hands-free attachment clip with standard glass is the best option for hands free use for the SSV. It eliminates any weaknesses caused by the ground glass option but you still have the hands free feature.

vapefiend

01-25-2010, 07:53 PM

I actually prefer not to use the ground glass because it tends to wear down and slide out of the heater cover after about 6 months of use.You've had this happen? I've seen speculation about it, since a friction connection doesn't have much margin between too tight and too loose, and when you add gravity into the mix....

MrMojoRisin7127

01-25-2010, 08:11 PM

You've had this happen? I've seen speculation about it, since a friction connection doesn't have much margin between too tight and too loose, and when you add gravity into the mix....

Yeah, but I expected it to happen so it didn't really bother me. I had already read somewhere else that this would be a possibility but I bought it anyway for the convenience. It is however slightly fixable if you rough up both the male and female connections with some extremely fine sand paper. I managed to get like 10 months of use out of my ground glass wand with the sand paper technique.

If somebody REALLY feels the need for a ground glass connection, I suggest they go for the DaBuddha because the angle won't be a problem with this.

Taylor
theviseonline.com

royiehl

01-30-2010, 11:44 PM

The Zephyr Ion needs to be added to everyone's wish list. It's finally available from one or two distributors in the u.s. It's $360 retail and well worth the dough.

lwien123

01-31-2010, 03:34 PM

T It's $360 retail and well worth the dough.

It is? It's brand new on the market. I've only seen one in-depth review on it and that review said it had a bit of a leaking issue. They may have addressed it by now, but I'd sure like to see more reviews on it before I'd recommend it to anyone. But, being that you did recommend it and you believe that it is well worth it, I'd sure like to hear a review from you on the Zephyr.

360 bucks compared to a 'Cano sounds like a good deal, but it's still a lot of money for a vaporizer and spending that much on something that's brand new and doesn't yet have a track record when it comes to reliability, is a bit of a concern..........at least for me.

5 to 6 positive reviews on it would be nice.

Not saying that it's a bad vape, but we just don't know yet how bad or good it really is.

mc1548

03-26-2010, 07:09 PM

I'm confused. Is the Arizer Extreme Vaporizer 2.0, 3.0 or Q the best & will using the bag help reduce my coughing problem?

lwien123

03-26-2010, 07:24 PM

I'm confused. Is the Arizer Extreme Vaporizer 2.0, 3.0 or Q the best & will using the bag help reduce my coughing problem?

The Q is their best and newest, and yes, a bag vape will help with your coughing problem for two reasons. One is that the vapor gets a chance to cool as it enters the bag, and two, is that with bag vapes, you have a higher air to vapor ratio. You just have to make sure not to turn up the heat to high.

btw, since my last post, Zephyr sent me an Ion for evaluation. Great bag vape at almost half the cost of a Volcano.

mc1548

03-26-2010, 08:44 PM

The Q is their best and newest, and yes, a bag vape will help with your coughing problem for two reasons. One is that the vapor gets a chance to cool as it enters the bag, and two, is that with bag vapes, you have a higher air to vapor ratio. You just have to make sure not to turn up the heat to high.

btw, since my last post, Zephyr sent me an Ion for evaluation. Great bag vape at almost half the cost of a Volcano.

I see the Q is $300 & the Zephyr is $359. What one do you think is best when using a bag?

moody3

03-23-2011, 11:32 PM

I have had the extreme q for 6 months and it works great...nice hits to fill the lungs and I am using less material..bought it
on ebay for $158.00, shipping included.."myrubberneck" was the seller I used...Vaping is so much better...taste and all. Why
did it take so long?? I believe now that it is more out of the closet we will benefit from new ideas like the vaporizer.

smokeeveryday

08-15-2011, 11:15 AM

Broke 3 arizers :( 2 warranty then the third not so trusty Volcano for me :)

vapefiend

08-24-2011, 06:01 PM

Broke 3 arizers :( 2 warranty then the third not so trusty Volcano for me :)Sounds like you and glass don't mix well. I avoided glass with a bag filler via the herbalAire (same 3 yr. warranty), and saved enough $ (vs. the Volcano) to buy an SSV and a portable as well.

kingjustin

09-15-2011, 01:18 PM

mc1548

09-15-2011, 07:36 PM

Just recently got an Arizer Extreme Q. Honestly, best bang for the buck. Temps are spot on ( laser thermometers are good for more than just teasing my cat, turns out), and build quality is very good. Glass hasn't broken on me yet, and it doesn't seem thin enough to necessitate super careful handling. A fine buy, indeed. And if you order off of Amazon, they send you a really cool blown glass stirrer thing.

I agree and the extreme Q might be the best one on the market. This is my second Vape and my only concern is that it doesn't utilize all the THC because I can Smoke the leftovers the next day and they work very well & I've tried temperatures all the way up to 500, so don't throw your Vape grinds away, at least use them to cook up some brownies or whatever.

420barista

11-01-2011, 12:35 PM

Lwein Thank you for your advice, And like I said b4 sorry for saying you were fixated. I went and purchased a Woodeezlog vape after I had gone out and purchased the extreme Q. Since I started using the woodeez the Q I kept on the side for use with friends. The efficiency is incredible. The stems it uses are like bats and you lightly pack the bowls. but when I can take what I smoked in a month and used the same amount with the woodeez it lasted for 3 months. i tried putting the same amount in the Q and felt no where near the effect I get from the WDZ. Apparently somewhere along the air path the Q looses something. I can happily say though the Woodeez has made a believer out of me. I love the Efficiency of Log vapes.

Now from what I know of there are 5 different makers of log vapes, The Underdog, The Toasty Top, Ceramic Rock Zap, Purple Days, and the Woodeez. As of this posting none of them are sold thru LHS but each have their own websites that they are sold from. I own all but the underdog. and the woodeez is running no more. but the Toasty top, Purple days and Ceramic Rock Zap are all running like champs. And those not standing by to vape with are being used for some aroma therapy.