Why can't people think for themselfs?

[lve2smk]

Since humans laid foot on the earth, the main objective of humanity has been to seek comfort and peace, but this happiness has come into peril by the needs of the people and the discovery of different cultures.
So, what has humanity done to meet those "needs" to bring a somewhat utopian society to the earth?

Kill, discriminate and hate everybody that doesn't believe what you believe...

This is the hidden truth that religion sometimes teaches people for the most part for the major religions today: Christianity, Islam, etc.

We are raised being told our faith is the real deal and that others are not, and shown that God has control over our fate; or in other words, that we aren't in control over our own destiny. So, why bother with action to improve life?

I believe when wishing takes over action in society, people have no say in society; thus, giving the people in charge the power to control the direction of humanity. This is why we have had a vast number of wars, going through the crusades and today's war in the Middle East.

All in All, I believe humanity as a whole should rely on taking action to improve the world rather than believing a deity or a person is going to do the difference.

[cannabis=freedom]

Free thought is quite a rare gift that cannot be taught or instilled in anyone--I believe they are born with it, and that less than 10% have this (I'm estimating). This must forever be the way it is, because nurture doesn't matter NEARLY as much as nature does, it seems.

Group-think is in the nature of weaker minds, as well as self-righteousness...violence is only a step away.

[lve2smk]

i agree with you that self thought is hard to achieve because nature does have its way of medeling with genes, but they are predispositions that could be changed through experience. So can a change of social influences depict peoples thoughts about humanity?

For instance, if the media changes its influence in music to a more profound one like towards politics or reform, will it then change peoples perspective of life, so they can have an open mind about the future of humanity?

[Trip06]

Its simple, When divided people are easy to control. Control equals power. If Everything was all honkey doory with everybody, do you think anybody would profit from peace? Do you think that evil would grow? hell no, The same people running our world want you all divided, your maluable then. Your weak, frightened, and deffenceless. Its so simple. So basic its right in front of you. DO you think organizations that try to establish bridged between black and white communities would get their money If we just one day said you know what "fuck it man were all in this together, lets just kick it and have fun". Trillions of government publics works programs and religious orders around the world wouldnt get their government funding. N981 Sold Out Churches (http://www.embassyofheaven.com/newslett/news9801/news9801.htm)

There is no profit in peace.

[SirSmellyEwic]

Utopia doesn't exist. Humankind is the way it is, and the way it is, can be changed. But Utopia can never exist, because individuals do think for themselves... everyone has there own perspective on what Utopia would be. someone else's utopia may be in fact my hell. Ergo, Utopia cannot exist in a societal form... it may only exist in the individual form.

yes, i do believe that some people do not think for themselves completely. but, that's them... i'm me. I will never let the slaves and followers affect me. However, they do seem to have higher numbers. If i fall and wish to push my way on them, I am just another one of them. therefore, ruining my own utopia by contributing to the situation.

Read some Nietzsche it'll help. Or not, depending on you, lol. He happily points out that most people are slaves, and the initial reader reaction can be one of resentment, which just makes you one of them... or one of pity, which also makes you one of them... the only way out is contempt. to look down your nose at them, and move on in your own utopia. They have control over you if your will is strong enough. the path you will is up to you.

[Trip06]

Our USA society is more free than any other nation on earth, It was never perfect but is today still more free. Things have been slipping and are heading for disastor now ONLY because we have failed in letting our GOvernment get to big and Control US. If things were stuck to as the constitution originaly had stated we wouldnt be in this mess. The founding forefathars set up the perfect set of checks and balances. All you little Karl Marx fans HAVE no FUCKING CLUE what Your Infor If you get what you want here. I will kill any and all people who violate my constitutional rights as the law permits me under the constitution. If you dont understand the dynamic of the Constitution you are a lost cause and fair game If you support anything other when the system cannot protect you. If you support any thing that violates my rights and help to destroy my individual freedoms I will not hesitate when society breaks down and theres no law enforcement to save you. You are an enemy of the state. If you dont like it Leave our COUNTRY!

[killerweed420]

I believe we are all a product of our enviorment. we know nothing when we're born. It starts with your parents and builds from there. If religion is a big part of your upbringing then the chances are you are going to be some what of a bigot no different than if your parents belonged to the KKK. This is why I would like basic religion taught in school. But it needs to be unbiased and just the facts so kids could see the pros and cons of both sides of religion.

[MMLoco]

hey i truly believe pot can spark free thinking of the mind. it always makes u question things (possibly paranoia?) and makes u relise the big picture

before i use to think everyone was unique and different. after smoking mad bud i relised how influenced people actually are. like friends act the same as their other friends and people believe what they were raised to believe

[cannabis=freedom]

Our USA society is more free than any other nation on earth, It was never perfect but is today still more free. Things have been slipping and are heading for disastor now ONLY because we have failed in letting our GOvernment get to big and Control US. If things were stuck to as the constitution originaly had stated we wouldnt be in this mess. The founding forefathars set up the perfect set of checks and balances. All you little Karl Marx fans HAVE no FUCKING CLUE what Your Infor If you get what you want here. I will kill any and all people who violate my constitutional rights as the law permits me under the constitution. If you dont understand the dynamic of the Constitution you are a lost cause and fair game If you support anything other when the system cannot protect you. If you support any thing that violates my rights and help to destroy my individual freedoms I will not hesitate when society breaks down and theres no law enforcement to save you. You are an enemy of the state. If you dont like it Leave our COUNTRY!

How can you say no other country is as free as the U.S.? I'd say any other democracy is just as free, if not more so in certain ways (i.e. the media not having AS big of an influence in Europe). Freedom doesn't really exist anywhere (it's an illusion used to manipulate), but it achieves its viable apotheosis in quite a few places, not one.

And forgive me, but I've always been a sceptic as to how much of an influence experience really has...from what I've seen the more experience a man has, the more confirmed he is in his biases, unless he has an extraordinary mind.

[BlueBlazer]

Why can't people think for themselves?

. . . I can't think of why . . . tell me. :smokin:

[40oz]

hey i truly believe pot can spark free thinking of the mind. it always makes u question things (possibly paranoia?) and makes u relise the big picture


I agree. Weed is definitely among the more useful of tools for breaking your mind out of it's cage.

[NewfieToker]

I agree. Weed is definitely among the more useful of tools for breaking your mind out of it's cage.

I was just about to post the same response. You guys beat me to it.

In addition, one's ability to see all aspects of a situation is only as good as another's inabilty to do the same. If everyone was free thinking then we would be in an even worst situation as a society then we are now. I think with free thinking must come logical thinking; that is if you want to have a completely peaceful world. Let's face it, some people out there lack the ability to think logically so even their ability to see the entire picture (if everyone had that ability) would be a hasard to a peaceful society.

P.S.

I once came to the conclusion that:

If everyone thought like me, the world would be perfect.

Perhaps it is not that everyone must be free-minded but in fact must think the same to have a peacful society.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Since humans laid foot on the earth, the main objective of humanity has been to seek comfort and peace, but this happiness has come into peril by the needs of the people and the discovery of different cultures.


You and I are on COMPLETELY different wavelengths.


Humans evolved naturally, as god intended. we came about to form the first small tribes, and for eons, that was perfection achieved; everyone had everything they needed, and if they didnt, they died. so the objective of a tribe was to TEACH THE CHILDREN HOW TO SURVIVE IN NATURE.


Which is the exact opposite of modern civilization, which teaches children how to rely on and maintain technology.


WHICH brings us to the topic of discussion: why people cannot think for themselves.



Because they are taught to rely on anything EXCEPT themselves for survival. They are taught to trust and depend on fictions of law, they are taught to add and divide numbers, taught to read and write signs, taught how to write a blog that no one cares about or wants to listen to.


But we are no longer taught the values of the elements*, we are no longer taught to care for our fellow brothers and sisters but that they are obstacles to overcome in our goals, we are no longer taught the life and names of the people in nature; the insect people, the winged people, the green people, the four legged people; we are no longer taught to respect the life in and of all things that are, but that there is no life in anything except restricted biological definitions.

We are taught that the world is but a resource for our technology, that our lives are meaningless and that our technology is all powerful and all knowing.



So, what has humanity done to meet those "needs" to bring a somewhat utopian society to the earth?

Humanity once planted the seed of tribalism, but soon after grew selfish and greedy, harvesting more than just the fruits of their labors, but uprooting the entire plant and replacing it with an artificial "new & improved" version. They uprooted our apples and replaced them with synthetics.



Kill, discriminate and hate everybody that doesn't believe what you believe...

This is the hidden truth that religion sometimes teaches people for the most part for the major religions today: Christianity, Islam, etc.

We are raised being told our faith is the real deal and that others are not, and shown that God has control over our fate; or in other words, that we aren't in control over our own destiny. So, why bother with action to improve life?

Why, indeed? Why should we try to think for ourselves anyways? We should be good little slaves and trust completely in our nations and their governments. /sarcastic, duh.


I believe when wishing takes over action in society, people have no say in society; thus, giving the people in charge the power to control the direction of humanity. This is why we have had a vast number of wars, going through the crusades and today's war in the Middle East.

All in All, I believe humanity as a whole should rely on taking action to improve the world rather than believing a deity or a person is going to do the difference.


Agreed. 100%.


Trust not in your nation, trust not in your government, trust not in your religion, trust not in your god, but place complete trust in your SELF, to learn, to grow, to understand, and to improve.


If you cant trust yourself to do all these things, you cant trust ANYONE to.