Does ADHD make you more sensitive to marijuana

[bahnspl]

I started smoking to treat my ADHD. I have it severely. Some days I can function as long as I am in a good mood. If not in a good mood very hard to function. And for about 3 months I went through a pretty good sized depression and did litterally nothing but work and sit at home. I was DONE with it and I don't trust the current meds for adhd honestly. So I did some research and find out that marijuana actually does very well for people with ADHD. Now back to my original question.... I just started a few months ago. At first I just used aluminum foil to make a home made pipe and used it for 3 weeks or so and things went well. It wasn't very large.. really honestly a one hitter. For reference I used a bic pen as a mold and the bowl was about a cm deep. Well I decided to get a real pipe. Got me a nice glass one with a big cavity in it for marijuana. I fill it up to about 3/4 full typically (what I figured would be the norm for an average person to get high) I just gets me stoned... Stoned to the point of feeling sick and dizzy and eyes almost completely shut.... At that time sucked when I was high but when not high FULL of energy and my adhd was at a minimum so I figured I would keep dealing with it because the feeling a couple times a day was worth it to keep my adhd... It keep happening so I am thinking man this marijuana has to be bad so go more..... same thing and now on next strand same thing.... Now while all this was going on the normal day time clarity! turned into down almost like I was stoned all day..... I had many panic attacks when high.... Had none of this energy people talk about or creativity or even the help with the adhd that so many people speak of.. I was really getting frusterated... Then I started to read a few people talking about they are more sensitive than others to MJ(sorry tired of typing it)... Then I read veterans saying when they first started smoking they sometimes would litterally end up stoned into the next day till they smoked again that night... I know the high isn't suppose to last that long... But my question goes if I am EXCEPTIONALLY sensitive to it could I stay high a long longer when I take that much in because the level in my blood is still elevated?... And also anybody that has ADHD and smoke... Were you way more sensitive ???? What brought this up last couple of days been trying to take 1 to 2 hits once a day then instead of doing my 8 plus at bed time I just do 3... 3 gets me to the point of litterally being retarded.... 1 seems to get me high... still playing with it so don't have the complete results .. But is that possible taking in enough that you stay all the next day.... Like when I am high now I can function a little more. (just started doing this last night and today) and when i am not high my mind seems to be getting much quicker now when not high.. Also something that kinda me thinking about this was like at work (don't smoke in the morning) I would be down all day then about 4pm every day I would get a boost of energy and being alert and "with it"... kinda like when you come down from being high after the burn out.. So I am rambling now... Also since I am a newb how long does it take to reach the peak of the high after you smoke

[bahnspl]

and can you be so sensitive that a half hit or a single hit really gets you high.. And what causes the sensitivity to it vs the norm person

[passthatshit]

I dont really know if you are more sensitive or not. However, I know that when I first started smoking, I was really lazy. I would always smoke myself stupid with very little weed. After awhile, you build up a tolerance and start becoming more productive I think. I now write for a magazine and usually toke before I start. Hope I helped, Good luck!

[frostedwonder]

Beats adderal for me, I get ripped easy as well but its better for me then the other options.

[bahnspl]

Beats adderal for me, I get ripped easy as well but its better for me then the other options.

how long have you been using? and how little does it take you. And I agree and that is why I am giving it a chance

[frostedwonder]

Well I have been smoking herb for about 15-16 years with a few breaks but not many. As far as meds I have been the poster child for Ritalin/Concerta etc since I was 10 many many moons ago. Then switched to Wellbutrin and didn't do well with that. Adderal is basically legal Meth and shouldn't be used lightly. I am hyper all the time without meds and cut people off while talking to them. I can barely focus at times,unless its something that I really dig then look out its over focusing. Pot helps me but I can't just walk around smoking all the time so I need to use stimulates to adjust. I can get ripped off a few hits of just about any weed. I have no issues with finding bomb ass green so its not the quality its just me. Receptors are different for everyone.

How long the buzz last for me is another matter. If the green is good it might keep me relaxed for two hours or so not too much more then that. I should have a tolerance but I smoke maybe a bowl or less and its game over. I have adjusted diet and several other factors in my life that helped me.

Do you drink coffee? Exercise? or just have an active lifestyle? Those things I addressed and it helped. Adderal is going to mess my heart up if I continue to take it being that I have for so long. Bud on the other hand won't hurt me so I am trying for more of that and less of the other. Oh also when you smoke what type of environment are you usually in? Home a friend's house or what? That plays a part for me as well. Hope things level out for you! Good thread as well.

[redtails]

I agree with what frosted posted out from my own experience as well, main thing for me is to find a good dose that helps but isn't making me "stoned" and unproductive. THC binds to your Anandamide receptors in the areas of your brain that control thinking, memory, and movement. Too much and you can throw the balance out of whack causing the many different "side-effects" just like any medicine. As was pointed out, it effects everyone differently and your tolerance is really low right now, so start with a hit and dial in your own dosage based on how that works.

You really should look into growing your own because every strain has different effects and strengths, so getting your mmj from a dealer isn't usually ideal because they seldom only deal with one type for long periods of time. In general, I believe Sativa-dominant strains help better with focus and concentration. If you're looking more into controlling the hyperactivity aspect then mostly Indicas are probably for you. I look for slightly Indica-dominant strains myself, because it's also used for general pain and sleep.

[redtails]

Oh & I've had weed that straight knocked me out for 3 days, but typically it takes only a few minutes before peak effect and should last 1-3hrs. Coming down has the opposite effect on me as you described, makes me straight retarded and sleepy. Then again caffeine and certain other chemicals are also backwards for me...

Regardless, if you're looking for a longer lasting effect without that retarded feeling I suggest eating it. THC is fat, alcohol, & oil soluble so it's best used in butter, milk, alcohol, & oil containing recipes. I recommend trying to make some cannabutter and put that into some cookies. My favorite is my own recipe I like to call Forghetti: melt some cannabutter over a small plate of cooked spaghetti noodles & toss in some parmesan, italian seasoning, garlic, crushed red pepper, etc...

[BlueBlazer]

My favorite is my own recipe I like to call Forghetti: melt some cannabutter over a small plate of cooked spaghetti noodles & toss in some parmesan, italian seasoning, garlic, crushed red pepper, etc...

I love that name! :D

[frostedwonder]

That is sounding soo yummy and its making me hungry! And I just ate how sad is that..

[redtails]

Definitely my favorite munchie, best when only eating a little though. Something about your stomach acid going into overdrive digesting the carbs in the noodles or something that just makes me sleep for days if I eat too much of it, hence the name lol.

[wingedson]

I was a poster child for ADD, never diagnosed, my parents tried to get me to agree with a doctor visit, but I opted for therapy. Of course, that didn't have an effect on my hyperactivity. I was always drumming on the table, tapping a pencil, chewing on something, singing at the top of my lungs, feet never ceased to move and wiggle. I would get so bored in class that I would throw myself out of my desk and crawl around on the floor.....

Then I got high.....

I was 15, smoked some Uber green bud out of an obsidian pipe in the bushes at a playground just outside school grounds. I went to class, first period was English for me, and I had to write an essay on Romeo and Juliet. I had not read a single page of the book. Shakespeare's writing was to difficult for my racing mind to interpret. I pulled off a B+ !!! That day I had quiet and clarity of mind for the first time in my life that I could remember. I ended up using MJ daily for around 4 years.... like smoking upwards of a half eighter/day. Then I started to get bizarre reactions. Strange body sensations like electricity in my navel, disorientation, paranoia, visual/auditory hallucinations. I ended up disliking MJ, and I quit for 4 years. Then I had a slow resurgence into toking, everything was great, and then again last year I started having the strangest phenomenon occur. I would smoke a TINY bit of good bud, White Widow actually sparked these experiences. After I would feel like I was moving around in a bubble, gravity didn't feel the same, and it was like my body forgot how to interpret the mass and weight of objects by viewing them. I believe this is called proprioception. It's a combination of internal ear balance, visual input, and neuromuscular feedback, all streaming through your brain simultaneously.

Currently I have been having the same symptoms occur, so I am taking a 6 week break. After this break I am going to keep my toking to a minimum, and use it medicinally, as I actually need it, not as I want it.

Thanks for a space to share ya'll!

:detective1:

[bahnspl]

Well thanks for all the input. I got a pretty good idea on what it was.... I figured maybe I am highly sensitive and although I am not taking MASSIVE amounts in... if I am really sensitive it would be the same thing with the amount I was taking in. So I put it to the test and cut back my dosage yesterday.... Well last night kept waking up with a bunch of enenrgy and this morning much more energy and in addition to my mind is functioning much better!. Still not 100 percent but good enough that I can kinda remember what 100 percent is as opposed to before I litterally probably had an IQ of 90 vs my typical 138... The only thing I can think of really with the fact of cutting back yesterday is I was just staying stoned litterally all day.... It was funny to because when I first started smoking I would get high and happy and love music... and lately I had no love for music or vivid colors in addition to my intelligence being way down. And I kept wondering why I didn't get that anymore when I got high.. ANd i really honestly think at this point it was because I just was extremely stoned all day...... I dunno. I guess I could be wrong and it could be something else but I find it funny that mind mind is by far better than it has been than at any point in the last month

[bahnspl]

and that last portion kinda sounds like I wasn't even getting high (the not liking colors and music) but trust me my eyes would be RED and they would barely stay open. bare with me here. I am a newb

[purpleyhazy]

I can barely focus at times,unless its something that I really dig then look out its over focusing. I think this is a big bonus of ADD for me :) ie the ability to hyperfocus.


It was funny to because when I first started smoking I would get high and happy and love music... and lately I had no love for music or vivid colors in addition to my intelligence being way down. I find for me it depends on strain. When I used to grow I grew an uppy buzzy smoke for the day (didn't increase hyper behaviour) and a heavy stone for evening when I wanted to zonk out and stop mind racing.

I don't grow anymore and have struggled since with some of the things you mention ie smoking too much heavy smoke and feeling still stoned the next day! heavy daytime smoke also makes organisation/memory and motivation really hard for me.

I don't smoke anymore but make canna capsules now. One takes the edge off and two gives a buzz like being stoned.

I did try cooking canna butter and making cookies on NYE, but I think I messed it up as they didn't work lol

[iStaaHi]

Add / ADHD arre completely MADE up ,, there is no basic diagnosis that doctors check for,, you know how they find out if you have add? if you fidget in class,, get up and walk around,, dont particip[ate,, ,, basivcally any kid has add its soo bullshit,, and feeding our children with meth,, its fucked up

you know they came out with a new disorder,, its called shymans disorder and guess wwhat kids it targets,, shy kids that dont participate too much, too shy to raise thier hand ,, now theyre gonna try to shove a drug down thier throat also


i dont think im moore sensitive to weed that ive been diagnosed add then if i wasnt

[redtails]

Add / ADHD arre completely MADE up ,, there is no basic diagnosis that doctors check for,, you know how they find out if you have add? if you fidget in class,, get up and walk around,, dont particip[ate,, ,, basivcally any kid has add its soo bullshit,, and feeding our children with meth,, its fucked up

you know they came out with a new disorder,, its called shymans disorder and guess wwhat kids it targets,, shy kids that dont participate too much, too shy to raise thier hand ,, now theyre gonna try to shove a drug down thier throat also


i dont think im moore sensitive to weed that ive been diagnosed add then if i wasnt

True it is overdiagnosed, but coming from someone who doesn't have it how would you know if it exists? Some of us actually do have a problem so to say it's made up is completely ignorant. Would you say that aliens exist if you saw one for sure? Or still go on telling yourself it was just some good weed making you trip out...

[peacepeak]

I started smoking to treat my ADHD. I have it severely. Some days I can function as long as I am in a good mood. If not in a good mood very hard to function. And for about 3 months I went through a pretty good sized depression and did litterally nothing but work and sit at home. I was DONE with it and I don't trust the current meds for adhd honestly. So I did some research and find out that marijuana actually does very well for people with ADHD. Now back to my original question.... I just started a few months ago. At first I just used aluminum foil to make a home made pipe and used it for 3 weeks or so and things went well. It wasn't very large.. really honestly a one hitter. For reference I used a bic pen as a mold and the bowl was about a cm deep. Well I decided to get a real pipe. Got me a nice glass one with a big cavity in it for marijuana. I fill it up to about 3/4 full typically (what I figured would be the norm for an average person to get high) I just gets me stoned... Stoned to the point of feeling sick and dizzy and eyes almost completely shut.... At that time sucked when I was high but when not high FULL of energy and my adhd was at a minimum so I figured I would keep dealing with it because the feeling a couple times a day was worth it to keep my adhd... It keep happening so I am thinking man this marijuana has to be bad so go more..... same thing and now on next strand same thing.... Now while all this was going on the normal day time clarity! turned into down almost like I was stoned all day..... I had many panic attacks when high.... Had none of this energy people talk about or creativity or even the help with the adhd that so many people speak of.. I was really getting frusterated... Then I started to read a few people talking about they are more sensitive than others to MJ(sorry tired of typing it)... Then I read veterans saying when they first started smoking they sometimes would litterally end up stoned into the next day till they smoked again that night... I know the high isn't suppose to last that long... But my question goes if I am EXCEPTIONALLY sensitive to it could I stay high a long longer when I take that much in because the level in my blood is still elevated?... And also anybody that has ADHD and smoke... Were you way more sensitive ???? What brought this up last couple of days been trying to take 1 to 2 hits once a day then instead of doing my 8 plus at bed time I just do 3... 3 gets me to the point of litterally being retarded.... 1 seems to get me high... still playing with it so don't have the complete results .. But is that possible taking in enough that you stay all the next day.... Like when I am high now I can function a little more. (just started doing this last night and today) and when i am not high my mind seems to be getting much quicker now when not high.. Also something that kinda me thinking about this was like at work (don't smoke in the morning) I would be down all day then about 4pm every day I would get a boost of energy and being alert and "with it"... kinda like when you come down from being high after the burn out.. So I am rambling now... Also since I am a newb how long does it take to reach the peak of the high after you smoke
Have you tried to experiment with Indica's verses Sativas? With me I can only smoke Indica's because Sativa's give me panic feelings and anxiety! Good medical marijuana should only take you on or two hits. I have been smoking medicam MJ for 5 years now and it still only takes me a couple hits a day to be leveled out! If you get dizzy your smoking to much! Ask your dispencory which marijuana's are indicas and which are sativas. Get a gram of each or less if they will let you and do a test run. Take a couple hits of the indica one night then a couple hits of the sativa another night and see which one makes you feel better. P.S. Add and ADHD are very real I know personally! SO I know where you are coming from!

[frostedwonder]

[quote=iStaaHi]Add / ADHD arre completely MADE up ,, there is no basic diagnosis that doctors check for,, you know how they find out if you have add? if you fidget in class,, get up and walk around,, dont particip[ate,, ,, basivcally any kid has add its soo bullshit,, and feeding our children with meth,, its fucked up

Over diagnosed yes, made up is a huge overstatement. Way back when people didn't believe in germs,,cause they couldn't see them. I wonder what Normal is like. I think lifestyle changes can make or break it for someone dealing with Real ADHD along with basic self-awareness and environmental things as well. I don't know what Dr you see but get one that actually specializes in ADHD and ask for a full physical from your family Doc and have that person refer you to someone better if they are not familiar with ADHD studies. And its funny you mention feeding our children meth, if most people parented their children better they wouldn't feed their kids drugs as a first attempt to help them, its just terrible how true parenting has fallen to the wayside.

[thehotcompost]

I started smoking to treat my ADHD. I have it severely. Some days I can function as long as I am in a good mood. If not in a good mood very hard to function. And for about 3 months I went through a pretty good sized depression and did litterally nothing but work and sit at home. I was DONE with it and I don't trust the current meds for adhd honestly. So I did some research and find out that marijuana actually does very well for people with ADHD. Now back to my original question.... I just started a few months ago. At first I just used aluminum foil to make a home made pipe and used it for 3 weeks or so and things went well. It wasn't very large.. really honestly a one hitter. For reference I used a bic pen as a mold and the bowl was about a cm deep. Well I decided to get a real pipe. Got me a nice glass one with a big cavity in it for marijuana. I fill it up to about 3/4 full typically (what I figured would be the norm for an average person to get high) I just gets me stoned... Stoned to the point of feeling sick and dizzy and eyes almost completely shut.... At that time sucked when I was high but when not high FULL of energy and my adhd was at a minimum so I figured I would keep dealing with it because the feeling a couple times a day was worth it to keep my adhd... It keep happening so I am thinking man this marijuana has to be bad so go more..... same thing and now on next strand same thing.... Now while all this was going on the normal day time clarity! turned into down almost like I was stoned all day..... I had many panic attacks when high.... Had none of this energy people talk about or creativity or even the help with the adhd that so many people speak of.. I was really getting frusterated... Then I started to read a few people talking about they are more sensitive than others to MJ(sorry tired of typing it)... Then I read veterans saying when they first started smoking they sometimes would litterally end up stoned into the next day till they smoked again that night... I know the high isn't suppose to last that long... But my question goes if I am EXCEPTIONALLY sensitive to it could I stay high a long longer when I take that much in because the level in my blood is still elevated?... And also anybody that has ADHD and smoke... Were you way more sensitive ???? What brought this up last couple of days been trying to take 1 to 2 hits once a day then instead of doing my 8 plus at bed time I just do 3... 3 gets me to the point of litterally being retarded.... 1 seems to get me high... still playing with it so don't have the complete results .. But is that possible taking in enough that you stay all the next day.... Like when I am high now I can function a little more. (just started doing this last night and today) and when i am not high my mind seems to be getting much quicker now when not high.. Also something that kinda me thinking about this was like at work (don't smoke in the morning) I would be down all day then about 4pm every day I would get a boost of energy and being alert and "with it"... kinda like when you come down from being high after the burn out.. So I am rambling now... Also since I am a newb how long does it take to reach the peak of the high after you smokeHello intrigued by your Dilema,my whole male side i my Family have Adhd,My Little Brother who is 25 My son is 12 and they are the laziest hyperactive people i have ever met,unless it interests them that being the case and they are flat out on it to the max,you mention you dont trust conventional Meds,ie Methyl Phenidate which is the dirtiest Amphetimine there is out their.My dad had adhd and smoke weed for 50 years didnt seem to slow him down,my brother is on 14 Dexidrine a day to control his adhd,does it work i have to agree may be with some people,personally i think its down to your make up,my adhd is quite bad but it comes in many disguises as you are probaly aware of.Concerta xl etc etc The Drug hasnt even payed for itself yet so its our kids they are turning into speed freaks at an early age ,i had a phycologist try to tell me there was no phycosis with this drug ,what a load of bollocks,my son is worth 100.000 pounds to the company who produced and manufactured Ritalin thats a year.i smoke reguarly with this condition must admit i do get the panic attacks etc etc so my advise is to really choose your time when you have your smoke dont do it in mornings,as you are doig the oposite to the so called remedy,i try and smoke in the evenings when ive finished for the day,Pick your times as you are vulnrable to a wicked bit of skunk early in the Morn,if it doin ya nut in listen to your body.Im a bloody expert on adhd as i spent months trying to keep my boy off the kiddie coke to no avail,there is a drug out there that is a non stimuli but the Doctors Fail to tell you this i wonder why ia asktook me 4 weeks to find adhd comes in many forms and shapes,If you need any advise feel free to ask

[thehotcompost]

True it is overdiagnosed, but coming from someone who doesn't have it how would you know if it exists? Some of us actually do have a problem so to say it's made up is completely ignorant. Would you say that aliens exist if you saw one for sure? Or still go on telling yourself it was just some good weed making you trip out...I will admit its about money,but your ignorance to this saddens me deeply,you think adhd is one form of illness,it has a face of a thousand masks,i beleive diet and dicipline plays a major part in behaviour but the methyl phenidate has got my boy through school thus far,he would have been expelled a long time ago.They test adhd with a questionaire then turn them into speed freaks this will continue until the companny that make s Ritalin have payed for it thats the sad fact i can go on and on but i wont........

[redtails]

Are you talking about my ignorance or iStaaHi's, whom I quoted in that post? I actually have ADD (not ADHD, so I guess it's different), and have been trying to manage it for the past 18 years...I was just saying that iStaaHi was ignorant in chosing to not believe in the disorder, as some would/wouldn't believe in things like life from other parts of the universe...

[Islandborn]

ADHD was the soup of the day in the 90's......just like bi-polar folks in the 2000's, now they are preaching about fucking autism....it NEVER stops...there will always be another "syndrome" that expensive, prescription drugs can cure.

I'm not saying there aren't some kids here and there with problems, but humans everywhere gotta get off these scriptions.....unless your seing things that arent there or wanna actually kill yourself or others....you dont need ANY pills to get you through. SUCK IT UP like everyone else. There are way to many emotional, weak, people out there.

[thehotcompost]

Are you talking about my ignorance or iStaaHi's, whom I quoted in that post? I actually have ADD (not ADHD, so I guess it's different), and have been trying to manage it for the past 18 years...I was just saying that iStaaHi was ignorant in chosing to not believe in the disorder, as some would/wouldn't believe in things like life from other parts of the universe...i wasnt talking about your ignorance redtails,it was the one before you i hav had adhd since i can remember i thought you put a good point across my friend a bit of compassion ,as there is so much ignorance to this illness with a face of a thousand masks,i dont mean to offend anyone as what would be the poit in a debate ?/??????????????

[thehotcompost]

[quote=iStaaHi]Add / ADHD arre completely MADE up ,, there is no basic diagnosis that doctors check for,, you know how they find out if you have add? if you fidget in class,, get up and walk around,, dont particip[ate,, ,, basivcally any kid has add its soo bullshit,, and feeding our children with meth,, its fucked up

Over diagnosed yes, made up is a huge overstatement. Way back when people didn't believe in germs,,cause they couldn't see them. I wonder what Normal is like. I think lifestyle changes can make or break it for someone dealing with Real ADHD along with basic self-awareness and environmental things as well. I don't know what Dr you see but get one that actually specializes in ADHD and ask for a full physical from your family Doc and have that person refer you to someone better if they are not familiar with ADHD studies. And its funny you mention feeding our children meth, if most people parented their children better they wouldn't feed their kids drugs as a first attempt to help them, its just terrible how true parenting has fallen to the wayside.After the 3 years of testing and your child probaly nigh on a raving nut people are pulling there hair out by dthen and will try any thing there are non stimuli on the market now but they wont prescribe unless you know your shit and demand it so i totally disagree with your comments,youget a choice you can get your child through school or you dont what do you take????????????

[frostedwonder]

So what part of my comments specifically doesn't sit with you? Bad parenting in just about every civilized nation is rising in my opinion?

[redtails]

i wasnt talking about your ignorance redtails,it was the one before you i hav had adhd since i can remember i thought you put a good point across my friend a bit of compassion ,as there is so much ignorance to this illness with a face of a thousand masks,i dont mean to offend anyone as what would be the poit in a debate ?/??????????????

Thought so, but wasn't sure because looking back at my wording, it could be misconstrued a little. That's why I have the desclaimer in my signature ;)

[thehotcompost]

So what part of my comments specifically doesn't sit with you? Bad parenting in just about every civilized nation is rising in my opinion?Bad Parenting i agree,doesnt help as my Ritalin was a clump round the moey,what doesnt sit with me right is that you totally are looking at this one sided,ive had to look at both sides for my sons sake,Different parenting styles careers and nan takes over,My Sons mother was so focused on her career that her mother had our son alot of the time and he done what he god dam pleased.When he came home he was stuck in no mans land as to rules what was ok there wasnt at home therefore he wanted to stay at his nans more and more,being our first child it suited so i have to take respocibility for behavourial problems along with his mother.But in truth to her it was what she needed an excuse in my eyes anyway,a spoilt brat really so play the tape a bit further not just the beginning.People with adhd are some of the cleverest people in history at what they want to know .If they dont want to know then forget it.My son is a mathmatical genius at 5 he learnt Volume ,he could recite over 100 films word for word,every dinasaur,every flag every capital city and he wasnt even 8 years old.Genius borders on Madness a thin line,he has recently come top of his year at school in mathmatics with a score of 99.2%then said to me imagine if i had tried dad,iI do see your point and that was my opinion,even though ive got it my brothers my Dad,My point is he cant tie his shoe laces up he struggles with the simple things in life so i would think there is something there,what i dont know but a boy of 12 now with an iq of 155 who struggles to dress himself brush his teeth or forgets to how would you define a child with adhd typical symtoms????

[Islandborn]

Our family Dr. also said ADHD is WAY over diagnosed....maybe 1 in 5000 people has an actual hyper-sensitive/tension problem....if ur that 1 person...thats shitty and I hope you find the help you need. All im saying I would NEVER put a child on these psychotropic prescriptions.....I was on ritilan as a pre-teen, zoloft & Depakote as a 20 year old and they were HORRIBLE drugs....took about a year and a half to ween off.....and feel normal again......Its my opinion that people need to start living life on lifes terms....it sucks alot....suck it up....you dont need some pill to help you. In the end it fucks you up more, mark my words.

Dont put your children on those drugs....they make life much harder.

[frostedwonder]

Read this post ,,,ok then go back and read any in this thread made previously. alright now probably reread and digest it. Then comment if you feel inclined on your opinions/thoughts/beliefs. When I read it back you are commenting on how I responded or commented on Istaahi's quote that I included. I don't know anything about you. Did you think I was talking about you specifically? Now try to read the wacked shit you see below this line_______________________________________

After the 3 years of testing and your child probaly nigh on a raving nut people are pulling there hair out by dthen and will try any thing there are non stimuli on the market now but they wont prescribe unless you know your shit and demand it so i totally disagree with your comments,youget a choice you can get your child through school or you dont what do you take????????????

:wtf:
Can anyone understand what the hell that meant? I mean anyone other then the author, cause as I see it your not being very clear, and anything further will feel like a back peddle of your own thinking.

I get blazed and post things on this site. Sometimes when I read them again I don't even know who that person is even tho its under my name :(. So I must have been way to medicated to be typing on here, but this ain't one of those times.

Better raised (overall quality of family unit )kids equals less misdiagnosis in my opinion, secondly if people went thru the steps in finding someone qualified to diagnose anything they would have way more help with dealing with the whole range of things involved and related to ADHD. If you felt like I was talking about you when I said parents first attempt to help their kids I wasn't, do you really take something that literal and out of context? I would never and have never advocated someone on choosing Adderal etc "meds" for their issues I think I did mention that I hoped a person found a balance with less Pills and more Green. I do believe I spoke about what I was doing if anything other then that.

As a generalization I think many parents today have unruly kids with or without actual mental/physical health symptoms,and too many just hope one day off from work and one appointment to the local doc will fix their family without all the actual work & patience involved with taking care of their kids. Very similar to how some think kids will learn everything they need k-12 from teachers at school and they don't need to be their teachers. There are many forms in which to conform teaching to someone with adhd.

Those are my very long 2bits sorry. Changing anyone's mind is very difficult but you can always disagree with what someone says, but make sure they say something before you just disagree with all of what they said. Kinda makes it hard to discuss without an opprobrium ensuing. Oh and using things like your ignorance saddens me deeply, seriously how is that possible based on what I commented on...wow time to take your meds,,,,

frostedwonder;2053824]Quote:
Originally Posted by iStaaHi View Post
Add / ADHD arre completely MADE up ,, there is no basic diagnosis that doctors check for,, you know how they find out if you have add? if you fidget in class,, get up and walk around,, dont particip[ate,, ,, basivcally any kid has add its soo bullshit,, and feeding our children with meth,, its fucked up

Over diagnosed yes, made up is a huge overstatement. Way back when people didn't believe in germs,,cause they couldn't see them. I wonder what Normal is like. I think lifestyle changes can make or break it for someone dealing with Real ADHD along with basic self-awareness and environmental things as well. I don't know what Dr you see but get one that actually specializes in ADHD and ask for a full physical from your family Doc and have that person refer you to someone better if they are not familiar with ADHD studies. And its funny you mention feeding our children meth, if most people parented their children better they wouldn't feed their kids drugs as a first attempt to help them, its just terrible how true parenting has fallen to the wayside.

[thehotcompost]

Read this post ,,,ok then go back and read any in this thread made previously. alright now probably reread and digest it. Then comment if you feel inclined on your opinions/thoughts/beliefs. When I read it back you are commenting on how I responded or commented on Istaahi's quote that I included. I don't know anything about you. Did you think I was talking about you specifically? Now try to read the wacked shit you see below this line_______________________________________

After the 3 years of testing and your child probaly nigh on a raving nut people are pulling there hair out by dthen and will try any thing there are non stimuli on the market now but they wont prescribe unless you know your shit and demand it so i totally disagree with your comments,youget a choice you can get your child through school or you dont what do you take????????????

:wtf:
Can anyone understand what the hell that meant? I mean anyone other then the author, cause as I see it your not being very clear, and anything further will feel like a back peddle of your own thinking.

I get blazed and post things on this site. Sometimes when I read them again I don't even know who that person is even tho its under my name :(. So I must have been way to medicated to be typing on here, but this ain't one of those times.

Better raised (overall quality of family unit )kids equals less misdiagnosis in my opinion, secondly if people went thru the steps in finding someone qualified to diagnose anything they would have way more help with dealing with the whole range of things involved and related to ADHD. If you felt like I was talking about you when I said parents first attempt to help their kids I wasn't, do you really take something that literal and out of context? I would never and have never advocated someone on choosing Adderal etc "meds" for their issues I think I did mention that I hoped a person found a balance with less Pills and more Green. I do believe I spoke about what I was doing if anything other then that.

As a generalization I think many parents today have unruly kids with or without actual mental/physical health symptoms,and too many just hope one day off from work and one appointment to the local doc will fix their family without all the actual work & patience involved with taking care of their kids. Very similar to how some think kids will learn everything they need k-12 from teachers at school and they don't need to be their teachers. There are many forms in which to conform teaching to someone with adhd.

Those are my very long 2bits sorry. Changing anyone's mind is very difficult but you can always disagree with what someone says, but make sure they say something before you just disagree with all of what they said. Kinda makes it hard to discuss without an opprobrium ensuing. Oh and using things like your ignorance saddens me deeply, seriously how is that possible based on what I commented on...wow time to take your meds,,,,

frostedwonder;2053824]Quote:
Originally Posted by iStaaHi View Post
Add / ADHD arre completely MADE up ,, there is no basic diagnosis that doctors check for,, you know how they find out if you have add? if you fidget in class,, get up and walk around,, dont particip[ate,, ,, basivcally any kid has add its soo bullshit,, and feeding our children with meth,, its fucked up

Over diagnosed yes, made up is a huge overstatement. Way back when people didn't believe in germs,,cause they couldn't see them. I wonder what Normal is like. I think lifestyle changes can make or break it for someone dealing with Real ADHD along with basic self-awareness and environmental things as well. I don't know what Dr you see but get one that actually specializes in ADHD and ask for a full physical from your family Doc and have that person refer you to someone better if they are not familiar with ADHD studies. And its funny you mention feeding our children meth, if most people parented their children better they wouldn't feed their kids drugs as a first attempt to help them, its just terrible how true parenting has fallen to the wayside.IM wrecked apoligies for the English Grammar as it was terrible,i am English lol but my language sais not.Thank you ive taken your advise and taken my Meds lol.Please excuse my total ignorance.Im new to this site really but you cracked me up laughing just getting up off the floor and im not mocking you.Ive read what i wrote or tried to, and sounds like a retard so please accept my sincere apoligies,A Fool doth think he is clever a Wiseman knows himself to be a fool.Makes me think and iso i have to ask myself does a Bird in a Cage sing as sweetly as a Bird that is free?I wonder

[frostedwonder]

I think I was next to you in line at the pharmacy,,,,no worries but because I suffer with having a Moment now and again I completely understand. no serious, I am just mental enough not to get a check every month so not really saying anything.. Real eyes realize real lies. this is why I love My ADHD.

[thehotcompost]

I think I was next to you in line at the pharmacy,,,,no worries but because I suffer with having a Moment now and again I completely understand. no serious, I am just mental enough not to get a check every month so not really saying anything.. Real eyes realize real lies. this is why I love My ADHD.Nice One you is a sound guy take care.Rather live the day of a Lion than the lifetime of a Sheep.

[bahnspl]

Add / ADHD arre completely MADE up ,, there is no basic diagnosis that doctors check for,, you know how they find out if you have add? if you fidget in class,, get up and walk around,, dont particip[ate,, ,, basivcally any kid has add its soo bullshit,, and feeding our children with meth,, its fucked up

you know they came out with a new disorder,, its called shymans disorder and guess wwhat kids it targets,, shy kids that dont participate too much, too shy to raise thier hand ,, now theyre gonna try to shove a drug down thier throat also


i dont think im moore sensitive to weed that ive been diagnosed add then if i wasnt

The disease does exist! Problem is that everybody that has an attention problem thinks they have it thus discrediting the real cases. It is a dopemine issue in the brain. The concentration and hyperactivity etc are just symptoms... But due to the PUBLIC'S ignorance everybody thinks adhd is if you have an attention problem which is extremely inaccurate!.. But YES they want to force feed that crap down their throats! I think it should be illegal to give anybody under 18 that crap .

[redtails]

Our family Dr. also said ADHD is WAY over diagnosed....maybe 1 in 5000 people has an actual hyper-sensitive/tension problem....if ur that 1 person...thats shitty and I hope you find the help you need. All im saying I would NEVER put a child on these psychotropic prescriptions.....I was on ritilan as a pre-teen, zoloft & Depakote as a 20 year old and they were HORRIBLE drugs....took about a year and a half to ween off.....and feel normal again......Its my opinion that people need to start living life on lifes terms....it sucks alot....suck it up....you dont need some pill to help you. In the end it fucks you up more, mark my words.

Dont put your children on those drugs....they make life much harder.

That's where I'm coming from, I was on ritalin for about a year when I was 10 and they gave me paxil to counteract the severe depression that it caused. After learning about long term use with these drugs my mom decided to get me the hell away from them & together we learned to manage it without them. I feel there's almost always a way to control your disorders without ever having to take unsafe Rx drugs, although sometimes it's not easy & can be very unpretty lol. Mmj helps me when I cannot help myself basically, I try to never totally rely on any substance including weed (which I've gone way overboard with and totally drove myself crazy). Too much of anything is never a good thing.

[SmokieMcPots420]

Beats adderal for me, I get ripped easy as well but its better for me then the other options.


i agree lol i always smoked before school insted of taking my adhd meds. worked so much better and i didnt get sick and unable to eat. yay weed!:rasta:

[bahnspl]

Update... got things sorted out.... Honestly I just am really sensitive to weed... Like REALLY sensitive... So sensitive if I didn't experience it I wouldn't believe it. I am a 300lbs guy and.............cigarette one hitter
1/10th of a one hitter will get me a slight buzz
1/5th will get me the happy lets get up and go do something fun or enteraining hyper type high... intelligence seems pretty good right now
1/2 will get me pretty decently high.... Intelligence starts to feel the effects and I am not as nearly motivated and will typically just sit there and listen to music
a full one hitter.... Im not gone but pretty damn close... intelligence is hurting a great amount by now.. Glued to chair and can only listen to music or watch tv
Now 2 one hitters or more... MIND IS GONE... No thoughts or actions happen... Litterally probably have an IQ of 60 if that when like that... Can not comprehend the most simple things... I don't even enjoy music or tv at this point.. Loud noises overwhelm me and put me into a panic almost... Everything is scary and time passes very quickly... I hate it at this point... .. Also this is decent swag.... but still swag.... anybody else know anybody this freaking sensitive

[bahnspl]

I guess on the positive note will be cheap for me... I had wrote that entire paragraph about 15 mins ago with actually a few more details in it and as I went to send somehow me rubbing my hand accross the touch pad closed the page... I was slightly irritated for a moment

[Faddenator]

Update... got things sorted out.... Honestly I just am really sensitive to weed... Like REALLY sensitive... So sensitive if I didn't experience it I wouldn't believe it. I am a 300lbs guy and.............cigarette one hitter
1/10th of a one hitter will get me a slight buzz
1/5th will get me the happy lets get up and go do something fun or enteraining hyper type high... intelligence seems pretty good right now
1/2 will get me pretty decently high.... Intelligence starts to feel the effects and I am not as nearly motivated and will typically just sit there and listen to music
a full one hitter.... Im not gone but pretty damn close... intelligence is hurting a great amount by now.. Glued to chair and can only listen to music or watch tv
Now 2 one hitters or more... MIND IS GONE... No thoughts or actions happen... Litterally probably have an IQ of 60 if that when like that... Can not comprehend the most simple things... I don't even enjoy music or tv at this point.. Loud noises overwhelm me and put me into a panic almost... Everything is scary and time passes very quickly... I hate it at this point... .. Also this is decent swag.... but still swag.... anybody else know anybody this freaking sensitive

Damn, that's awesome.

If I could get ripped off a one hitter, I'd only need an eighth a month (ish) :jointsmile:

[bahnspl]

Damn, that's awesome.

If I could get ripped off a one hitter, I'd only need an eighth a month (ish) :jointsmile:

at first it really sucked because I smoked what a normal person would... a med sized bowl every couple of hours which for me kept me in the scary state whenever I was off work. Really sucked! I wanted to stop but it helped with my symptoms of my adhd even when I wasn't smoking at work

[Goober328]

That is way too much prose for me to interpret, so sorry. A person with ADHD dont need to smoke dope but rather to take uppers. If you get cut off from the meds or the meth/cocaine salesman dont show try something with caffeine in it. Coffee, tea, coke, Mountain Dew, Energy Drinks and chocolate to name but a few sources. That should help sedate somebody with the ailment we speaking of here. Hope this helps.

Goober

[bahnspl]

That is way too much prose for me to interpret, so sorry. A person with ADHD dont need to smoke dope but rather to take uppers. If you get cut off from the meds or the meth/cocaine salesman dont show try something with caffeine in it. Coffee, tea, coke, Mountain Dew, Energy Drinks and chocolate to name but a few sources. That should help sedate somebody with the ailment we speaking of here. Hope this helps.

Goober

Caffiene really never did it for me. doesn't have and up or down affect on me... And in some recent studies thc seems to have better results with people with adhd than ritalin does... And a hell of a lot more safe

[HeadWest]

I too am a heavy ADHD dude. If you are much past college age the speed starts getting wierd - try Straterra, it's been terrific for me.
As for pot usage: Practice makes Perfect. My wife has similar tolerance issues - so you are a cheap date: take a toke and wait 20 minutes: remed if needed.
Most important is your med selection. Only Sativas or light Hybrids during the day to add focus and cheer: Apollo, Blue Dream are great sativas that really increase your focus and happy zone. Also try Flo - it's a 60/40 that is uplifting & relaxing and a great antidepressant. Blueberry is a very happy influence, but sleepy, so look for hybrids with sativas to keep you alert & happy. Save the Indicas for TV time and especially as sleep tonics (White Rhino) as with your ADHD you probably sleep like shit which increases depression.
Generally most depression I get is ultimately caused by frustrations caused by the ADHD.
Research strains like mad - become your own ADHD doctor and take control of your life. You will always be different from others but you can be happy too!

[bahnspl]

Hello intrigued by your Dilema,my whole male side i my Family have Adhd,My Little Brother who is 25 My son is 12 and they are the laziest hyperactive people i have ever met,unless it interests them that being the case and they are flat out on it to the max,you mention you dont trust conventional Meds,ie Methyl Phenidate which is the dirtiest Amphetimine there is out their.My dad had adhd and smoke weed for 50 years didnt seem to slow him down,my brother is on 14 Dexidrine a day to control his adhd,does it work i have to agree may be with some people,personally i think its down to your make up,my adhd is quite bad but it comes in many disguises as you are probaly aware of.Concerta xl etc etc The Drug hasnt even payed for itself yet so its our kids they are turning into speed freaks at an early age ,i had a phycologist try to tell me there was no phycosis with this drug ,what a load of bollocks,my son is worth 100.000 pounds to the company who produced and manufactured Ritalin thats a year.i smoke reguarly with this condition must admit i do get the panic attacks etc etc so my advise is to really choose your time when you have your smoke dont do it in mornings,as you are doig the oposite to the so called remedy,i try and smoke in the evenings when ive finished for the day,Pick your times as you are vulnrable to a wicked bit of skunk early in the Morn,if it doin ya nut in listen to your body.Im a bloody expert on adhd as i spent months trying to keep my boy off the kiddie coke to no avail,there is a drug out there that is a non stimuli but the Doctors Fail to tell you this i wonder why ia asktook me 4 weeks to find adhd comes in many forms and shapes,If you need any advise feel free to ask

Hello... sorry for the long delayed response. still been playing with it... finally getting it right. I think was was allergic to smoke oddly enough. Anyways if you have any questions [email protected]! feel free to hit me up. More than happy to converse. I have a good vaporizer now and wow what an amazing difference... For sure been much more attentive on how much I take in... And for sure just was really sensitive... I after this post I had gone back and forth a few times between a lot and a little... HOnestly I couldn't tell which was the right way. Super high would get me perfect for like 10 mins then I wouldn't be able to think I was so out of it..... but then a medium amount didn't really seem to do anything a little gave me a burst... Really odd. But since I started vaping last week.... BIG improvement. for sure I was going too much. There must have been some reaction with the smoke that caused me to be like that

[BigSurBuds]

Many people diagnosed with ADD/ADHD have turned to medical marijuana (http://www.marijuanamedicine.com/ailments.html) for treatment of their symptoms with positive results and minimal side effects.

Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder is also known as hyperactivity or attention deficit disorder (ADD). ADHD is a common condition that affects both children and adults. The National Institute of Mental Health estimates that 3% to 5% of children have ADHD. Some experts think it is more common, occurring in 8% to 10% of school age children. There is controversy over whether or not children grow out of the symptoms.

Children with ADHD generally have problems paying attention or concentrating. They canâ??t follow directions and are easily bored or frustrated with tasks that require focusing. They also tend to move constantly and are impulsive, not stopping to think before they act. Although some might say that all children behave like this to some extent, they occur more often than usual and are more severe in a child with ADHD.

The behaviors that are common with ADHD interfere with a childâ??s ability to function at school and at home. Symptoms of ADHD in children are generally grouped into three categories: inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsiveness. Adults with ADHD may have difficulty with time management, organizational skills, goal setting, and employment. They may also have problems with relationships, self-esteem, and addictions.

The exact cause of ADHD is unknown but thought to be due to a number of factors: genetics, chemical imbalance, brain differences, head injury, exposure to toxins, and/or problems during the motherâ??s pregnancy.

Conventional treatment of ADHD has mostly been centered around treating the patients with stimulants like Concerta, Ritalin, and Dexedrine. The main problem with these medications is the side effects â?? abdominal pain, sleeplessness, poor appetite, and anxiety just to name a few. Some non- stimulant medication is available (like Stratera) and sometimes antidepressants are used as well. Interestingly, the long term effects of these treatments are still somewhat unknown. Other treatments include behavioral therapy, counseling, and specialized educational assistance.

Most patients who choose medical marijuana over these medications do so because they are not happy with the bad side effects of stimulants. Other patients who do find these conventional treatments helpful will sometimes treat the unwanted side effects of the stimulants with marijuana; this combination therapy often relieves the side effects of sleeplessness and lack of hunger.

There is not enough scientific evidence to state that medical marijuana definitively helps with ADHD, however there are overwhelming anecdotal and case reports to support at least a trial of cannabis for those adult patients who struggle with symptoms and the unwanted side effects of conventional treatments. After passage of Proposition 215 in California, doctors began seeing adult ADHD patients who reported that cannabis had positive effects on their ADHD symptoms with no unwanted side effects. Adult ADHD patients that use medical marijuana report that they feel calm, are able to focus on and complete a task that they normally could not do, are able to eat and sleep better, and overall have a better quality of life.

Studies in hyperactive/impulsive rats have shown that they improve with cannabis. It is time for the scientific research community to begin adult human studies on this most natural medication which improves ADHD symptoms without the unwanted side effects of stimulant medication. And of course we must mention that we do not recommend using medical marijuana by smoking it; vaporizers. edibles, and tinctures are now widely available and eliminate the adverse side effects of toxic smoke on the lungs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQyarO26pg0

[greenwatersavy]

well man Iam on here cause my husband is a suffering iraq vet with ADHD hoping for some answears also but also feeling comfort from knowing your not alone ya know. so I have found that smoking actually puts him on a normal mind running level he smokes in the morning like coffee and it helps him consentrate with so many thousands of thoughts all running around like crazy in his head he just cant focus on where to start to have a productive day physically not just mentally. I can only speak from my observances but this is how i deal with living with someone with this issue it's like living with someone who is high on coke all the time I cant keep up with him so the smoking helps so much to slow him down it's like he is opisite to things such as coffee or energy drinks uppers and such but downers perk him up? anyways from my experience you can have pot hangovers and start out slow short breaks throughout the day and also try diffrent strains they have very diffrent effects try a sativia for sure hope you get dialed in
**peace n pieces***

[beachguy in thongs]

I never knew of anyone with a A.D.D. or A.D.H.D., until I met this girl who has other issues, also.

Pot changes her perspective on life, from night to day.

And, I did hear that they've discovered a gene, linked to A.D.D./A.D.H.D., so it's not only real, but, that would seem like they have their own species, now.

[squeeg420]

Add / ADHD arre completely MADE up ,, there is no basic diagnosis that doctors check for,, you know how they find out if you have add? if you fidget in class,, get up and walk around,, dont particip[ate,, ,, basivcally any kid has add

Spend a day in my head and say that again, douchebag. I'm almost 30 years old, and still can't hold focus for shit. You can say it is made-up all you want. It is very real to me, and that's after years of denial myself and saying it is made-up. Try sitting in a busy newsroom of about 20 people all talking on the phone or to each other and doing your own work WHILE hearing and LISTENING TO all of the other conversations. Congratulations, you now have ADHD. It's real, and it's fucking hard. Just because you aren't afflicted with this shit doesn't mean it isn't real. I guess my best friend isn't really bi-polar. He must just be crazy, cause, well, I don't have it. Sounds dumb, right? So do you... :rastasmoke:

I realize it's been 8 months, but I just couldn't help myself... Call it a crusade against the ignorant masses.