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XGR33NthumbX
12-17-2009, 07:47 PM
hey guys, right i have been growing for around 4 years now, but only outside growing so never used a lights before, im looking to grow just 1 plant a time to get me to summer then the sun dose it job every year, im only wanting to buy 1 bulb to do a allround job, could anyone give me reason not to buy this bulb and go for a different one??

link is Growing Light | Indoor Grow Lighting | Light Systems for Plant Growth (http://www.growell.co.uk/p/1084/Budget-Hobby-Light-Systems.html)

its a 250watt

if anyone knows of a bulb that is better than this i would lov 2 know

thanks alot

killerweed420
12-17-2009, 07:59 PM
For growing 1 plant, the 250w should work fine. I'd be tempted though to swing the couple extra bucks for the 600w, in case you decide later to grow a few more.

XGR33NthumbX
12-17-2009, 08:16 PM
For growing 1 plant, the 250w should work fine. I'd be tempted though to swing the couple extra bucks for the 600w, in case you decide later to grow a few more.

thanks alot killerweed, i would of gone for a bigger one just for the hell of it but as its my gdad growing it for me as he lives out in the middle of no were. and he loves growing anything to everythink so he agreed to growing one for me but only one.

so thanks alot!! :hippy:

Theac74
12-18-2009, 12:10 AM
Looks good for just 1 plant BUT if the dif in price between the 250 and 400 is'nt that much definatly go 400. I have been growing outdoors for 10 yrs and this year is my first indoor and I am running 2-400wt for 25-30 plants and I wish I had got 600's. The more the wattage the bigger and better your plant will be and if u ever decide to add a couple the light can handle it. Good Luck!!!

XGR33NthumbX
12-18-2009, 01:22 PM
Looks good for just 1 plant BUT if the dif in price between the 250 and 400 is'nt that much definatly go 400. I have been growing outdoors for 10 yrs and this year is my first indoor and I am running 2-400wt for 25-30 plants and I wish I had got 600's. The more the wattage the bigger and better your plant will be and if u ever decide to add a couple the light can handle it. Good Luck!!!

thanks again for the info, i might go for the 400 but as i only want to go 1plant at a time, finkin of the elec, as its only 1 plant for now. i'll let me gdad start off with the 250watt and if its taking along time to grow i'll upgrade to 400 and use the 250 at my house.
thanks again guys. :thumbsup:

XGR33NthumbX
12-31-2009, 10:18 AM
ok guys i got a little different bulb to what i was going for. its a ait mh and hps if anyone knows of this bulb could some1 help me with the heat that comes off it also the same watt its a 250, i have 2 computer fans one for the in flow and the other for the out flow, should this be anuff to get rid of the heat aswell? or dose anyone know how to keep the temp down??
meny thanks. :pimp::jointsmile:

Chebus
01-01-2010, 08:07 PM
250w HPS isnt that hot...youll be fine with the comp. fans, good luck:rastabong:

redtails
01-02-2010, 12:34 PM
I'd put both comp fans on the exhaust, then cut intake holes for a passive intake...

XGR33NthumbX
01-04-2010, 10:12 PM
thanks for your guys info. i fink im goin to buy 1 more comp fan. then i'll no4 sure but i do need a little more info on blueberry, if anyone has grown it dose it turn blue when curing? bcoz i'v been told when my friend went to the a'dam he boughlt some blueberry and it was'nt blue =s could anyone tell me a good strain that will turn a different colour then green?

thanks again.

jakester
01-04-2010, 11:00 PM
I'd put both comp fans on the exhaust, then cut intake holes for a passive intake...+1
Forget the intake fans. They are doing little. Move em to the exhaust and get some air sucking through that thing.

Vancefish
01-05-2010, 01:20 AM
There are a number of purple strains.

I just got Grape ape and another called Mr. purps. I've also seen Purple passion and really purple Grandaddy X grape ape. I'm sure there are 20 more purple stains.

I believe I read some of the purple stains require a cool period during flower to turn purple. However it's been a while since I read it, Thus I have no clue where it was. :jointsmile:

GetThisOrDie
01-05-2010, 01:41 AM
All the Blueberry ive had was always bright green. I dont think they call it Blueberry because of the color... more so the taste and smell. I could be wrong though. Like Vancefish said, cooler temps near harvest time will bring the colors out in alot of purple strains.
Check out The Attitude seed bank for pics of different strains... see if they have one the color you like. The advice about losing the intake fans and making them all exhaust is very wise. It works much better that way.

XGR33NthumbX
01-07-2010, 11:08 AM
hey guys thanks again for all the info. ill get some pic's up very soon my brother and gdad are making a new (bigger) box for the plants we are going for 2-3 plants. i'v had a word with my brother and he already boughlt 4 comp fans as they only little. i'v told him to use all of them as the ex. (we still not 100% what we doing for a fresh intake? we have 2 little table fan's and they only 5inch tall. but im finking maybe we'll need something more? i'v taken a look on the blueberry is says when cureing it has tiniting of blue. maybe we go for blue chesse as it beastly ganja. i want a real big high! ill get bak to you guys very s00n thanks again.

redtails
01-07-2010, 11:15 AM
All you need is holes towards the bottom for the intake. The fans push the air out, creating negative pressure (suction) inside and any holes in the box will automatically become intakes because the air pressure has to equalize. Hope that helps a little.

Oh, & glad you could talk them into more plants ;) Means they are pretty interested as well!

XGR33NthumbX
01-07-2010, 07:13 PM
thanks alot mate yeah i get what you mean.. only problem will i lose much light? or are you talking about 1in holes? or smaller? 10cm holes? one more thing dose anyone have problem with the smell? and if i do have problems with the temp how can i get it down?

redtails
01-07-2010, 07:23 PM
Whatever you use for exhaust size, use twice as much for intake. Doesn't matter what size you do for the holes, as long as they add up.

Vancefish
01-07-2010, 07:34 PM
If you tape or tie a couple computer fans to the top of the box, and they are aimed to pull air out of the box. This will pull the heat(which rises?) out the top of the box.

Issue is, the box has nothing to let air in(as it is a closed box). Thus heat will build up if cooler fresh air is not coming in from somewhere.

If both your fans are say 3 inch fans. You need about the same amount of "hole space" as an inlet(around 6 inches total). You could just cut a huge hole in each side. However that would cause light loss. The air would mainly travel staight from the hole to the fan as well.

The obvious and already stated, holes around the bottom of the box will not only pull fresh air up through the plants but allow all heat to rise and be removed from the box. Also providing extra ambient Co2 to your plants.

Hole size is up to you and could be an interesting experiment. However I'd try taking a small drill bit(on a drill of course), say 1/8th inch. Then drill 48 holes around the box just above the bottom of the box. Then all incoming air enters under the plants, rises through them, and exits at the top. You would only see tiny amounts of light loss through all the little holes. :thumbsup:

From the post above(who likely knows better then me). Make that 96? 1/8" holes. Although I read something somewhere saying some negative pressure was somehow good. Not sure on that though! :D

XGR33NthumbX
01-08-2010, 10:34 AM
thank you guys sooo much for the info my brother n gdad have started the box not 100% on the size yet but ill let every1 know. it should be finished by sataday :) allready altho... we only have bagseed atm soo my bro has sed to me bcoz this our 1st time with lights he wants a test =s i guess its mainly up to him as i don't live as close as he dose to my gdad. but we said 100% on the blue cheese :):):):) which im happy about. anyways bak to in the intake n outtake, thanks again i fink puting the fans on the top of the box? then the fresh intake on the buttom? yes? this should be fun what ever the outcome! i'll have some good pics by sunday! soo untill then keep in touch! :)

mainegrown
01-08-2010, 12:52 PM
i would look into some LED setup.. cheap on the electric and no need to vent so much..
just a thought. if you have the $$/inclination to have some fun that seems to be where its at..
:twocents:
~MG

redtails
01-08-2010, 09:08 PM
From the post above(who likely knows better then me). Make that 96? 1/8" holes. Although I read something somewhere saying some negative pressure was somehow good. Not sure on that though! :D

See, I thought the same until I was told you want twice the intake. I experimented, and with more intake holes it actually dropped the temp another 5-10 degrees...And there's still plenty of neg pressure to keep it otherwise airtight (and smell-proof).

XGR33NthumbX
01-09-2010, 04:43 PM
thanks again for more info. im defo gonna take intake holes at the buttom of the box. and the fans all round the sides at the top maybe 2 at each end. should be finished 2moz :) cant wait wuuup wuuuup:hippy:

busybee
01-09-2010, 08:42 PM
:thumbsup:alright greenthumb,i've moved indoors too(well the back of my shed)using bagseed for test run.airflow is an important issue,glad i read your thread.my Q is..how do you stop light coming in(at lights out)with all those holes in the bottom?need to know as not yet finished my growroom,light and air outtake done,jus the intake!!!:jointsmile:

XGR33NthumbX
01-10-2010, 10:05 AM
hey busy. what light you got? we just got a realy good light 300watt cfl dual spec, which i found is quite rare, i'v never seen the 300watt ones, anyways its a str8 plug in and play. (grow) with a diamond reflector
heres what i got

EL1 CFL with Sunmate Powerplant Reflector 1 �69.95 �69.95size: 300w �20.00 �20.00spectrum: dual ANBB Advanced Nutrients Dr Hornby Big Bud Liquid 1 �19.95 �19.95size: 1ltr CABA Canna Boost Accelerator 1 �21.95 �21.95size: 250ml Shipping: Shipping: �11.99Sales Tax: �0.00

im gonna grow inside this year aswell as outside :) anyways good point. as im not 100% on whats going on with my growbox but were we putting the holes at the bottom were lifting the box off the floor about 4-6inchs, im just guessing there isnt much light gonna come though that way,but little.. as we dont want anylight getting in tho, we could make a temp plate to go under the box when the lights r off? but if anyone knows a better way then this? would be very happy :)

meny thanks.

:pimp:

busybee
01-10-2010, 10:10 PM
hey busy. what light you got? we just got a realy good light 300watt cfl dual spec, which i found is quite rare, i'v never seen the 300watt ones, anyways its a str8 plug in and play. (grow) with a diamond reflector
heres what i got

EL1 CFL with Sunmate Powerplant Reflector 1 �69.95 �69.95size: 300w �20.00 �20.00spectrum: dual ANBB Advanced Nutrients Dr Hornby Big Bud Liquid 1 �19.95 �19.95size: 1ltr CABA Canna Boost Accelerator 1 �21.95 �21.95size: 250ml Shipping: Shipping: �11.99Sales Tax: �0.00

im gonna grow inside this year aswell as outside :)
:thumbsup:hi greenthumb,sounds good,i got a 400w hps for my grow and 2x55w cfl's for my seedlings,only 3 out of 13 germed so far(my fault for plantin 13)i'll be useing canna products start to finish!oh and my hps set up was a gift from a mate as was canna stuff(had to buy pk13/14 & boost acc',i made my own carbon filter(found out how on here!)and i work for a lighting co. so i BORROWED the cfl parts.hehe!:jointsmile:

XGR33NthumbX
01-10-2010, 11:13 PM
omg nice one mate, hope all grows well :thumbsup: ill start a new thread up soon as i switch the lights on :) laterss everyone,

one thing, what seeds u using? bag or named?

busybee
01-11-2010, 10:26 PM
omg nice one mate, hope all grows well :thumbsup: ill start a new thread up soon as i switch the lights on :) laterss everyone,

one thing, what seeds u using? bag or named?
:thumbsup:just bag as this is my 1st indoor grow,just need to get my feet wet.hopefully sort any probs before parting with any£££!good luck with yours.cant be arsed to start a thread...but 2morrow's a different day,so who knows,laters geez:jointsmile: