sea of green with cfls

[crf70rider]

got 24 seedlings ice,cherry slider,kush,purple haze,nyc deisel ,and a few bagseed one this is day 4

[Rubberbubbler]

You are going to need moor light and put them closer to the plants. But what I do not understand is some people go to grate lengths to secure high grade strains but don't go the extra mile to grow them properly. You should invest in some good quality soil or soiless mix you should not grow them in sand.
I don't mean anything negative towards you or your grow its just a suggestion. I am looking forwerd to updates on your grow good luck.

[crf70rider]

the dirts nasty but im doing it cost free and i got a 2 mnths old plant and shes healthy with the lights i got but yes i need more like a 12 more but i need more fixture and more money to go hydro but ima try to jst grow some inside and im plainng on taking a few outside in january but idk i like the sea of green idea and the sand is mixed with soil and it hs really good drainage and seedlings love it for what i got im surprised they arent all streched out any dieying just goes to show marijuana is a weed it'll grow most anywhere

[M.B.A.]

they have 68w CFLs at HomeDepot

[crf70rider]

buy some and send them to me illkick you down get some fixtures while your at

[LetsSeeYa]

buy some and send them to me illkick you down get some fixtures while your at

You can get Y splitters to add more cfl's for each lamp. I have the same lights, but w/ the Y slitter i have 4 26w cfls in each light. That makes each light 7,000 lumens of light per lamp. They cost like a buck and change, so it very cheep to upgrade:rasta:

[Pudish]

also seeing as how you are using CFLs I would really suggest getting some mylar to put on thoes walls. White flat paint works well. Usually only if you have a HPS. You could go cheap and buy some of thoes emergency blankets. You get get them at Walmart for around 1.50. There made of mylar and are just as good as a roll of mylar for growing.

Just a suggestion that is all.

[crf70rider]

yeah i need some slitters but as far as the white paint goes its making it cooler the themal hot spots are gone i got the at about 70-75f all day and nightim running 24hr light i got a seedlig with droopy leaves and there some that growing small and bushy are these indica plants ill post some pics later but they have two sets of leaves

[crf70rider]

80 degrees all the time is that good i sold 16 of them yesterday i got 8 left in a grow box pics will be soon added 3 more cfls 45wat in the grow box

[LetsSeeYa]

80 degrees all the time is that good i sold 16 of them yesterday i got 8 left in a grow box pics will be soon added 3 more cfls 45wat in the grow box

Looks great so far man. The extra lights will help a lot. Do ya got a fan in there some place? I wouldn't let it get any hotter then 80 in there. The splitters are great arnt they? Im buying 1 every month. Light that is w/ 3 splitters for each light. I want 8 running 4 26w cfl's. Thats 560,000 lumes, you would think that would be enough, but then theres the sides of the space i think i could add to:rasta:

[crf70rider]

yeah i gota whisper fan from a pc in there running all time in my box heres some pics

[crf70rider]

why are my leave drooping im i overwatering i water every to days or whe he soil is dry under bout an inch is this too much water i dnt want them to dry ou and die but i dont wanta kill them byoverwatering wat should i do

[NMZ5000]

[quote=Rubberbubbler]You are going to need moor light and put them closer to the plants. But what I do not understand is some people go to grate lengths to secure high grade strains but don't go the extra mile to grow them properly. You should invest in some good quality soil or soiless mix you should not grow them in sand.
I don't mean anything negative towards you or your grow its just a suggestion. I am looking forwerd to updates on your grow good luck.[/QUO:D:D:D:DTE]

[LetsSeeYa]

[quote=Rubberbubbler]You are going to need moor light and put them closer to the plants. But what I do not understand is some people go to grate lengths to secure high grade strains but don't go the extra mile to grow them properly. You should invest in some good quality soil or soiless mix you should not grow them in sand.
I don't mean anything negative towards you or your grow its just a suggestion. I am looking forwerd to updates on your grow good luck.[/QUO:D:D:D:DTE]

I agree with this but understand the budget thing as well. I really think you should get different soil. If you pay 3 bucks a bag, its better then what ya got. Its just that your having problems now, which i believe is lack of drainage and the lights need to be closer. Even growing outside, its a good idea to put in a bag of soil in before you put your plants in. It would have helped my yield last year. I am using cheep soil and things are ok soil wise as of now.

You would only need a couple bags for now and its a good time to transplant:thumbsup:

Just not enough space in that soil for your roots to grow. Your right about the way a seed grows in nature, but we dont have all other necessity's that nature provides. We dont have the Sun which is the key in nature to create and sustain plant life. We got our cfl's but nothing close to natures wonders:thumbsup: They may hermi up or just small yield. Like i said tho i understand the budget thing, but i think you will be much more happy in the end with a soil the plant will like,

good luck:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

why are my leave drooping im i overwatering i water every to days or whe he soil is dry under bout an inch is this too much water i dnt want them to dry ou and die but i dont wanta kill them byoverwatering wat should i do

Plants kinda like it dry, but of course they need water. You can tell when ya pick up the plant if its real light, its dry and needs water. Heavy and its fine, but the find a schedule like every other day or every 3 days. This is why we suggest new soil, because it will stay moist and its harder to get that type soil to a happy medium. What ever it takes, but you will learn every time ya pick em up. BTW dont refer to them as ''he'', we want a she:thumbsup::rasta:

[crf70rider]

sorry my keyboard got weed stuck in it and fucks up sometimes so im overwatering her?? if they g dry for how long will they live and another question im getting soil tommarow should i break up that hard ass dirt when i transplant them??

[LetsSeeYa]

sorry my keyboard got weed stuck in it and fucks up sometimes so im overwatering her?? if they g dry for how long will they live and another question im getting soil tommarow should i break up that hard ass dirt when i transplant them??

No need to break up too much, because the roots will grow into the new soil and expand. Just make sure you see roots coming out the bottom. But make sure they are dry before transplanting, as you can tap the sides of your container and turn over and your plant will slide right out. Just make sure you put your hand over the plant while tipping over and plant will be between your fingers so its protected. Make sure you start with soil on the bottom of the new container and also, make sure you can see some roots before ya place them in there new home. Maybe run them under some water, or take them out and let them sit for a bit in water to soften that dirt.


Just give them enough water to keep them alive for now:thumbsup:

Also, if ya need help im here but stop making new Threads. I am answering questions that have already been taken care of:rasta:

[crf70rider]

well i washed off the soil from the roots and planted them in super soil so well see how many die from doing that i hope none but my budy called me stupid but after seeing the roots grow stright out the side rom where i planted it it was to hard for the tap root so i said fuck it ive washed roots off for hydro so i did the same new soil nutrl ph fresh start and i gave em a slight dose of sensi grow nutes some b12 and superhrive but it was a drop of each into a half gallon o i should be good i hope ..... did i screw it all up by doig this or what???

[LetsSeeYa]

well i washed off the soil from the roots and planted them in super soil so well see how many die from doing that i hope none but my budy called me stupid but after seeing the roots grow stright out the side rom where i planted it it was to hard for the tap root so i said fuck it ive washed roots off for hydro so i did the same new soil nutrl ph fresh start and i gave em a slight dose of sensi grow nutes some b12 and superhrive but it was a drop of each into a half gallon o i should be good i hope ..... did i screw it all up by doig this or what???

Hydro:wtf: Man you need to get them into soil and leave them alone. Seeds have a natural fert for the first 30 days or so, they need nothing but water right now. Keep your lights down on them. Use plain water at least till after thirty days. Also, update here please, because you will get more help where all your info is:rasta:

[crf70rider]

well wtf i asked if they'er be okay not a statement of a matter of opinion dude your not helping and frankly your pissing me off and you and i both know superthrive and b12 are anti shock and a plant reviver and a drop into a half gallon should harm em to much and when i tryed to get them out of the other pots the didnt want to come out and they were really dry too so i wash the roots off before putting them in the super soil so ill post pics and dude give me a freaking break on th forum muti post shit cause its getting rediculous im here for help not criticisism and next grow bigg pot from the get go no transplanting

[LetsSeeYa]

well wtf i asked if they'er be okay not a statement of a matter of opinion dude your not helping and frankly your pissing me off and you and i both know superthrive and b12 are anti shock and a plant reviver and a drop into a half gallon should harm em to much and when i tryed to get them out of the other pots the didnt want to come out and they were really dry too so i wash the roots off before putting them in the super soil so ill post pics and dude give me a freaking break on th forum muti post shit cause its getting rediculous im here for help not criticisism and next grow bigg pot from the get go no transplanting

Dude im not tryin to give you a hard time, im only trying to help ya. Its just easier if everything is here. Also, plants dont need anything for about 30 days. Plus they are already stressed by the transplant. Also, the transplant will only help you out. I understand they were hard to get out, but can you imagine those roots trying to grow through it. Now in some new soil with your lights about 2-3'' away from them, they will be looking great in no time:thumbsup:

Sorry you misunderstood me, but im only trying to help my man. Can ya post pics of there new homes?:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Oh and no you didnt screw anything up, you just gave them a better chance at developing a good root system:rasta:

[redtails]

Hope the plants do ok for you, roots are touchy sometime. In a few days you'll be able to tell if they are liking their new soil. If you do feed nutes, make sure it's diluted to 1/4-1/2 strength and don't do it for a while so the roots can get over their shock. But yeah, the new soil has them already so you don't need to fert just yet.

[crf70rider]

alright cool there still standing so there not dead and the first set of leefs on a few got burned i think from the transplant but a couple have had no adverse affects a they've kept on growing ill post some pics of the results ...sorry for all the other post my mother plant im fowering is inside and is starting to flower so hopefully ill have some kill in a couple months ....and as far as the nutes go i put a drop so it was really deluted

[crf70rider]

heres ther home ill post some pics of them asoon as i get batteries for my camera

[LAmike]

LetSeeYa you are pretty cool. You have a great attitude and very patient. Your bud must rock. :P

Can I transplant at 3 weeks? I made a mistake and planted good plants in a long planter I want them out of it. Let it dry out, basically dump the bucket to loosen while supporting plant then slip it in the new dirt?

[LetsSeeYa]

alright cool there still standing so there not dead and the first set of leefs on a few got burned i think from the transplant but a couple have had no adverse affects a they've kept on growing ill post some pics of the results ...sorry for all the other post my mother plant im fowering is inside and is starting to flower so hopefully ill have some kill in a couple months ....and as far as the nutes go i put a drop so it was really deluted

Thats good news my man:thumbsup:. I dont think ya got burn from transplant, as seedlings are very forgiving and will do well even in the soil you had them in, just not like ya want in the end. It could be the nutes, or lights might have got em, i know mine got a bit of burn when they were too close. But, no big deal cuz there small and will grow the burn right out, so they will be fine. If i were you i would hold the nutes for now and just keep the lights 2-3inches away from them and they will take off. If ya get a chance look at my log here and see where mine was burned. The next day they looked great:thumbsup:

Keep er green man :weedpoke:

:rasta:

[crf70rider]

yeah just try and keep the soil around the root ball but if you had them in shit dirt like i did then flood them and pull'em out the mud gently

[LetsSeeYa]

LetSeeYa you are pretty cool. You have a great attitude and very patient. Your bud must rock. :P

Can I transplant at 3 weeks? I made a mistake and planted good plants in a long planter I want them out of it. Let it dry out, basically dump the bucket to loosen while supporting plant then slip it in the new dirt?

Yes as the dryer soil will slide out with a few taps on the sides. I grew one in a tray and it rocked. Not enough room for more then one tho. Just try to get as many if not all the roots. Just give them time in there new home and no nutes for a week or so to let them get comfortable:thumbsup::rasta:

If ya got anymore questions, ask me in my thread in indoor growing section, as we dont want to step on rider's thread, il answer anything i can:rasta:

[LAmike]

Awesome thanks to both of you.

[crf70rider]

well the leave were very dry and i touched one and it broke and i dug in the soil with my finger and it was really dry so it think they dry out a little to much its been like three days since my last water but i hope there come outha it soon im getting frustrated cause at least they were growing in the soil theyve seemed to have stop wats the deal guys the leave are green still just dry a brittle

[redtails]

Ooh, sounds like they might not have taken to the new soil. I'm sorry man. Let's hope this isn't the case...

[LetsSeeYa]

well the leave were very dry and i touched one and it broke and i dug in the soil with my finger and it was really dry so it think they dry out a little to much its been like three days since my last water but i hope there come outha it soon im getting frustrated cause at least they were growing in the soil theyve seemed to have stop wats the deal guys the leave are green still just dry a brittle

I think you will be fine, but id just give plain water till they start to grow a bit. They are shocked from the re pot and strong nutes i think:thumbsup:

Good luck my man:rasta:

[crf70rider]

well i think 3 wll survive i hate myself the sand was fine whyd yo guys d this to me you all owe me some seeds now .....:hippy:

[redtails]

Haha, aight. Check out the attitude's page, they got free seeds going out today only, just pay shipping...

[crf70rider]

i dont have a credit card well not yet ima get a prepaid

[crf70rider]

i dont have a credit card well not yet ima get a prepaid ...well anyways its not your guys falt fyi dont wash the roots and then add b12 but i think these girl will make it i got a ice ,and two kush and check out my moter she flowering tell me what you think......:cool::hippy:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well my man i think if ya give em one more week w/ just water and your cfl's near, they will grow out great. What your not seeing is the roots getting healthy under the soil. The plants are doing this first, so they can feed the plant as it grows. Basiclly the roots will heal before you see the leaves/plant take off:thumbsup::rasta:

[crf70rider]

well i hope your right i put all my cfls in areflector box i built god there bright my internet card broke so i cant get on at home anymore so i cant reply as offten i got floral nova for myflowering mother i hope she likes itte bottle said 2 tsp per gallon so i mad up a half gallonand only used halfa tsp and ill incress this graudually untill shes done shes double in bud growth i cant wait t smokeher she smells amazng after harvest i will reveg im not gonna pull her i dont think but i think i got spider mites wat do hey look like are they black and orange??? really small??

[redtails]

Yup, that's mites, about the size of a period right? Good luck getting rid of them! Pyrethrin sprays work well in veg, but DO NOT spray anything on the buds, if they've gotten onto your flowering mom then that harvest is junk now unless you want to try predator mites. I lost my whole outdoor harvest a few years ago to them. Reason I said it's junk now is you can't get them off without either killing your plant or making the buds toxic to smoke...and don't try to smoke some of it with them on the buds, it'll snap crackle pop and taste like shit not to mention be bad for you.

[crf70rider]

well this is the deal i seen em in my new sl i bought the mother has little bugs in the soil but i never see e on the plant then i seen the mites will lady bugs help?? i dont care bout the crackle snap pop just smoked 20 pounds that were infested this should be a leason dont take home clones when you budy give you one oh well at least there not going to crazy killing he plant she has like a few spots but notbad idk i hate bugs

[redtails]

Well there's litterally hundreds or thousands of types of mites, only a few that are common and will harm your plants. I noticed a few spots on the lower leaves of my plants and underneath the leaves that had em were the mites. They spread super quick if not taken care of, and I've heard ladybugs will eat them and also that they wouldn't so I don't know cuz I've never tried em. All I know for sure is the permethrin/pyrethrin/Ivermectin stuff works wonders, I've used it for years on my reptile collection(snake mites). And yes, alway quarantine new arrivals of anything whether it's clones or animals or whatever because anything can carry pests that will wreak havoc on stuff you have.
Miticide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miticide)