Miracle-gro soil

[MaddEnemy]

I know using it on seeds is too much for them but check this out.

I buy 6 inch tomato and pepper plants every year and plant them in straight Miracle-gro soil even when the bag says to mix it with reg soil. My plants take off and look great and put out some nice veg. SO what is so wrong with putting a 6 or 9 inch plant that can handle a horti now be put in a mix of soil and miracle-gro and do well? The ferts last 3 months but the miracle-gro food can be used on your plants that have been planted in MG soil after 3 weeks.

Why is MG so cursed?

[Zandor]

Miracle Grow is not for dichotomous short day resin producing plants. Tomatoes & flowers are not in the same group as Marijuana plants.

That is why you do not use Miracle Grow or anything that has the name Miracle Grow in it for Marijuana period.

[BobBong]

:rolleyes:

What he said...
MiracleGro is alright for something like tomatoes...after all.. they are just tomatoes. the reason you don't want to use it for Marijuana is because it lacks specific nutrients that marijuana needs later in its life. it also contains to much of some nutrients. so although it may work at first, you'll end up needing to fertilize later in the plants life. this often results in over fertilization of certain nutrients.. and under fertilization of others...

In short, it's an inbalanced fertilizer for marijuana.
Idealy you should use a better grade soil, something with slow releasing nutrients...Scott's, Shultz.. there's alot of different names. usually you can use soils like that for two grow seasons.. i have

do what you can though.. if MG is what you want to use, nobody will stop you.

[MaddEnemy]

Good answer, thanks

Is there an all in one fert for veg? and one for flowering? It seems some people use 3 things during veg, and a few on flowering.

Would anyone mind making an easy list with a link to the product of what to use during veg and one for flowering. So many products out there it can get very confusing for first time growers.

Example

Brand A for veg www.brandA.com
Also need Brand B for veg as well, www.brandB.net

Brand C for flowering www.BC.com

This would help me a lot.

Thanks

[del...]

many use m.g. for tomatoes during the veg and schultz' bloom or super bloom for flowering. i use it too at times and have also used fox farms and other similarly specialized ferts...i've found with care m.g. works just as well as the more expensive fox farms-type products (i am speaking about soil only). same goes for bloom and super bloom. but i always cut the directions in half and never give more than once every couple weeks. others use a stronger strength and give more often...you'll have to find what works best for your area and conditions. experiment on different plants of same strain and you'll quickly find what's best. it doesn't take long for a reaction when too much of anything gets added which is why i suggest going slow and working up to find optimum level.

but there is no need to use different ferts for veg or flowering...one of each is fine.

[Zandor]

If you are looking for affordable and easy....the main word easy then General Hydroponics FloraNova is for you. One bottle to veg and one bottle to flower will do a full grow. There is no need for a TDS meter only a Ph pen and some Ph up and Ph down. It does not get any easer then that. You can use cheep Ph up and Ph down lemon juice / vinegar & baking soda but with those they don't last as long and you will be playing the up and down game a lot....but they are cheep. The chemical version of up and down last longer and are more stable as well as easer to use.

Dyna-Grow also has a 1 part nutrient that is cheaper but you get what you pay for.

http://www.discount-hydro.com/nutrients.asp

[Jlibtech]

I have used knock offs of miracle grow, super thrive, ect...They work just fine...Some people make this a little more complicated than it really is. But beware that certain strains may not grow like others.

[BobBong]

we're not talking about strain variation, the strain doesn't make a difference. Use cheap fertilizer, get cheap results...with any strain.

[MaddEnemy]

I have used knock offs of miracle grow, super thrive, ect...They work just fine...Some people make this a little more complicated than it really is. But beware that certain strains may not grow like others.


I know, how hard is it to grow a weed?

:D

[Zandor]

I have used knock offs of miracle grow, super thrive, ect...They work just fine...Some people make this a little more complicated than it really is. But beware that certain strains may not grow like others.

Dude super thrive alive is an additive and not really a good full cycle grow. You add it to the regular nutrients as a supplement.

Once again
"Miracle Grow is not for dichotomous short day resin producing plants"

[llamaman666]

we're not talking about strain variation, the strain doesn't make a difference. Use cheap fertilizer, get cheap results...with any strain.
I can get very fine buds using MG and Schultz

[del...]

same here llama...i'll match my m.g. grown plants, strain for strain against anyone for yield and potency in an 8-10 week veg.

[genuinestoner]

M.G. for me also, no problems nice compact buds, great smell, i use super thrive also and super bloom, dilutted etc

PEACE

[smokinlowrider4u]

M.G gets the job done. So does shultz... thats all

[familyguy]

i can't believe how many ppl talk about miracle grow. wake up, their are nutrients made specifically for the plants you are growing. try bcuzz or advanced hombre! sometimes they seem expensive but you gotta spend money to make money!

[del...]

that's all well and good, famdude...but some of us prefer the k.i.s.s. method...

check the pic room for a miracle grow show...

[Riverdog]

Been using MG potting soil w/fert for years in 5G buckets outdoors---fine by itself until July---then I use 10-30-10 for buds. Good yield---8-10' plants---3 to a bucket---8-12 buds to a plant. This way seems to take guesswork out as far as getting hung up on ph, exact portions of different chemicals,etc.
Moved indoors in Jan---realized that I need to germinate b4 transplanting to buckets under 400MH (veg) and 400HPS (bud). Biggest mistake I made was not keeping light REAL close (even if you have to bend taller plants over so all will be same height). They WILL STRETCH!!!! Buds looking OK---will be experimenting with veg times, etc. I think I'm liking the 90-100 day crop!

[del...]

"8-10' plants---3 to a bucket---8-12 buds/plant"...in a 5 (FIVE) gal pot? in mg soil no less???

come on, man...this will need to have pics to back up such a bold claim...

[the happy chappie]

hi all,
why do most growers give mg a downer, i know there are nutes out there that are designed specificly for pot plants , .. but hey guys mg can work wonderfully,
my soil is john innes number 1 for seeds and cuttings, and john innes number 2 or 3 for vegin and flowering, this is a top quality pre prepared soil, i dont feed clones or seedlings they just dont need any feed in this soil, when there large enough they are put into larger pots containing john innes number 2/3 i then give them a real good dose of miricle grow, this is a blue granules that are simply mixed in a watering can i soak each of the pots until it flows freely from the bottom, the waste that comes out the bottom is cought in a deep tray i wont feed again until i have watered at least 2/3 times, i continue to do this up until about 3 weeks from harvest, this is too allow for natraul flushing, it is poss to over feed despite the claims on the packet, i dont have that prob any more as i have learnt my lesson,
i roughly achieve half to one ounce per plant without probs, i love the stuff,
i aint knocking the expensive pre made exclusive to pot nutes that are available but mg will do the job loverly, if done correctly, i too would stand one of my mg grown ladys up against a plant grown with more expensive nutes,
if you have got a factory full of em then yes the expensive nutes will make a difference, but if like me the most your ever likely to grow is 15/20 in a small cubard then i believe mg will work just great,
sorry this is long, i just felt i needed to put my pennys worth in .... peace

[Cyberborg]

i hate to use chemical nutirent food so i worship organic food to make big healthy hemp to make u more healthy than chemical make u to be lot winks and looking old age , lol