Easy Ryder T5/HPS Grow

[maspino1]

Hey, I'm back. This time I have a different plant to grow and I'm very determined this time. I decided to upload my grow log because when I first got my seeds I didn't really see many logs on easy ryder. So here goes..

Joint Doctor's Easy Ryder (Lowryder#2 x AK-47)
Feminized
(2)23W T5 for seedlings and veg
150HPS for flowering (so much better than those LED panels and my last grow with T5s!!)
Soilless in Coco
Pure Blend Pro Gro, Bloom and Liquid Karma
20/4 light cycle

I will be posting weekly so please subscribe, I'd like to start some questions and answers here because this is gonna be my best grow having learned so much from my previous experiences and knowing exactly how to treat my plants. Thanks - maspino1

[maspino1]

This is me in the process of spraypainting my grow box:
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Finished box with T5s inside:
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Freshly planted seed:
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Day 1 not counting germination:
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Day 3, (don't know what happened to day 2):
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[maspino1]

Day 4 - growth seems a bit slow starting here:
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Mon, September 28, 2009
-Leeched coir after boiling with hot water
-Buried seed 1/3" into coir
-Soaked coir with strong Liquid Karma solution to facilitate germination and root development
Tue, September 29, 2009
-Turned off one light to bring down heat
-Covered with plastic planter to raise pot humidity
-PHed medium w/ LQ and Bloom; washed out seed in process
-Seed had grown tail so oriented tail downwards
Wed, September 30, 2009
-Seed poking out of medium; already green from light exposure
Thu, October 01, 2009
-Seedling begins to grow first true leaves
-Removed planter
-Both T5s are on
Fri, October 02, 2009
-Leaves looked dry so put clear plastic oven bag over for humidity
-Removed after a few hours because of heat buildup inside bag
-Added 4 hours of dark into cycle
Sat, October 03, 2009
-Watered with new solution with veg instead of bloom nutes
-AFter solution soak added fish water to solution; will use next watering
-It seems at this point growth has slowed and rooting is taking place
Sun, October 04, 2009
-Observed root poking out of bottom of container
-Added H2O2 to solution then soaked coco
-Attempted to use yeast and sugar for CO2

[DOUGAL25]

I'm in :jointsmile:

[frostedwonder]

Hmm whats up with the different solutions? A good soil/soiless mix and good water should be suffice to start a seed why the extra nutes? Just curious, I don't think I would do that but if you have a reason for it I would be all ears. once your at a few nodes in maybe,,, other then that you soaking your coir with the liquid karma that should of been more then enough anything much after that is odd in my head. veg or any other nute without a few true leaves is not something I have seen or read on here or in person. I will subscribe and hang around for a bit, I haven't seen a ryder auto grow log on here in awhile.:rastasmoke:

[maspino1]

sweet, thanks for joining in guys! well, i'm kinda worried that there might not be enough of anything to get it going so i added bloom at first then switched it to grow but then it slowed down so i put in both with the karma, i haven' seen any signs of burn yet so hopefully things stay that way.

please keep checking back, i'd like to share this with others who want to grow easy ryder cuz i know when you're waiting on a plant to grow reading material can be very entertaining lol. i just came back home from buying materials to make my case fan out of, im just about to set it up

[maspino1]

Here is the finished fan:
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It was a simple radio shack ac fan (which the salesperson couldn't help me shit all with!). BTW, it's louder than I had anticipated but i think i can zone it out the longer i hear it, especially since the cardboard conducts the sound too. The fan is so strong I can feel it moving air around my feet and I'm about 3 feet away. I have it blowing into the box so that means it's blowing air out through the sides and the flaps. Next.. testing it with my hps

[maspino1]

So this is the plant in with the HPS which is totally keeping cool:
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And this is hwo it looks from the outside:
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Unfortunately I'm gonna have to figure out a way to put the hps in there so that the top cola will be getting light cuz unfortunately when I cut the hole for the fan I forgot to take into account the fact that the hps was supposed to be hanging from above. Fuck... :sadcrying

It's so bright I gotta put my tanning goggles on lol

[Italiano715]

Day 4 - growth seems a bit slow starting here:
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Mon, September 28, 2009
-Leeched coir after boiling with hot water
-Buried seed 1/3" into coir
-Soaked coir with strong Liquid Karma solution to facilitate germination and root development
Tue, September 29, 2009
-Turned off one light to bring down heat
-Covered with plastic planter to raise pot humidity
-PHed medium w/ LQ and Bloom; washed out seed in process
-Seed had grown tail so oriented tail downwards
Wed, September 30, 2009
-Seed poking out of medium; already green from light exposure
Thu, October 01, 2009
-Seedling begins to grow first true leaves
-Removed planter
-Both T5s are on
Fri, October 02, 2009
-Leaves looked dry so put clear plastic oven bag over for humidity
-Removed after a few hours because of heat buildup inside bag
-Added 4 hours of dark into cycle
Sat, October 03, 2009
-Watered with new solution with veg instead of bloom nutes
-AFter solution soak added fish water to solution; will use next watering
-It seems at this point growth has slowed and rooting is taking place
Sun, October 04, 2009
-Observed root poking out of bottom of container
-Added H2O2 to solution then soaked coco
-Attempted to use yeast and sugar for CO2

I currently am growing a Autoflower called RoadRunner....Which is a cross between Lowrider#1 x Dinafem #1

The first couple days with it's first set of true leaves were slow, but then one day that son-of-a-bitch just started to take off. I have pictures in my thread.

I'm sure in the next couple days, that thing will start to boom!

Good luck and Happy Growing!

P.S. I'm subscribed! :thumbsup:

[maspino1]

hey thanks for tuning in, im glad you're gonna be watching out. where are your links? i can't find it :S

[Italiano715]

hey thanks for tuning in, im glad you're gonna be watching out. where are your links? i can't find it :S

The OG Kush #18 Feminized, Dianafem Autoflowering Roadrunner Upcoming Log (http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/173147-og-kush-18-feminized-dianafem-autoflowering-roadrunner-upcoming-log.html)

[maspino1]

:( Look at what happened! This is day 6, I think I have heat stress or a burn:
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What do you think it is???

[DOUGAL25]

Sat, October 03, 2009
-Watered with new solution with veg instead of bloom nutes
-AFter solution soak added fish water to solution; will use next watering
-It seems at this point growth has slowed and rooting is taking place


I think I have heat stress or a burn:

It looks like burn to me...shouldn't be using nutes for the 1st 2 weeks
:twocents:

[maspino1]

but it doesn't affect other parts of the plant though, and it's coco so there's no nutes in it so that's why i added some. i have used less today though, and stabilized the ph so hopefully it fixes itself :(

[maspino1]

ok, so i'm gonna heed that and i'm going to lower my nutes even more. i'm gonna only put 1mL of grow and 2mL of liquid karma and see where that takes me. so far the plant looks like this:
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This is roughly 11-12 hours later from the first pic

[maspino1]

ok... so now the younger leaves on top are becoming pale... starting from the stem towards the tip.

def or tox?

[Italiano715]

If you go to the plant problems sub section there is a troubleshooting form you can fill out that will aid in answering your questions.

IMO if I were to guess, I would say it's a bit heat stressed and over nuted. That's just me though. I don't know what you got going on so I can't give a direct answer! :jointsmile:

[DreadedHermie]

And this is hwo it looks from the outside:


This won't matter until you go to 12/12 for flower, but...


If your box lets as much light IN during your "dark" time as it's letting OUT in that picture, you may have....

hermies. :dance::eek::clap::woohoo:

[maspino1]

hey italiano, thanks for replying, i do have a thread started already:
http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/176339-yellow-patch-easy-ryder-seedling.html

I will update it tonight so please keep a lookout there, hopefully you can help me diagnose what's going on. I might even post my most recent log entries as well.

And don't forget though, I'm growing auto so 12/12 doesn't matter with this grow.

thanks everyone for staying posted :rastasmoke:

[maspino1]

great... my sd card reader broke :(

[maspino1]

WEEK 2
^^^^^^
Mon, October 05, 2009
-Changed solution to G:B:LQ = 1mL:1.5mL:2.5mL/2L of water
-Added the bloom for extra phosphorus to see if P deficiency caused slow growth
-No more fish water
-Continued use of peroxide for root development
-Observed increased size in first true leaf set after 4 hour dark period
-Installed fan into case; testing it with HPS for heat buildup
-Plant is now under HPS
Tue, October 06, 2009
-Fan is constantly blowing on plant even during dark cycle
-Plant has yellow patch on one leaf
-Started using fresh order of nutes and added a few epsom crystals to solution
-...
-Yellow patch more pronounced but did not spread
Wed, October 07, 2009
-Fan is off during dark cycle now
-Prepared epsom salt spray with a minute amount of detergent
-Younger leaves on top look pale
-...
-Slight residue from spray, plant seems to be recovering
-Nutrient solution at 30drops/2L and nutes are now at dosages indicated on bottles (Grow and LQ)
-Regular epsom salt spritzes instead of in solution
-Added drop of molasses for K
Thu, October 08, 2009
-Continuing with B:LQ=(3mL:2.5mL)/2L with a drop of molasses and epsom salt solution foliar spray
-New growth appears very healthy
-Slight chlorosis on other first true leaf but otherwise very healthy
-Vigorous growth in last 12 hours; plant must be focusing on vegetative growth at this point
-...
-Plant seems stable now but with curled down leaves
-Odour noticeable when smelling the plant up close
Fri, October 09, 2009
-EVerything is great, plant is responding great to nutes and hps
Sat, October 10, 2009
-Leaves are getting bigger although looks like they're curled in on themselves to try to absorb th[e ambient light
Sun, October 11, 2009
-New node develops everyday; currently at 4 nodes
-Sprayed with epsom salt solution

[irydyum]

Residual epsom salt spray plus close proximity HPS could be a good reason you are getting chlorotic spotting. The water acts like a lens on the leaves focusing them like burning ants as a kid. Just a thought, what's your goal with the epsom spray?

[maspino1]

thanks for the reply, pretty much, before, i've always had problems with interveinal chlorosis and a good old simple epsom foliar spray fixed everything. plus ph levels, after i brought it down lower everything went perfectly. now, if only my stupid sd card reader would fix itself :(

[maspino1]

So I finally got a USB SD card adapter and here are some new updated pics!
here's looking at the private parts of my plant/future budsites
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regular snapshot to show off size and progress of growth
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and the obligatory canopy shot
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[maspino1]

day 16 - come on preflowers!!!! :( i'm getting so bored, i think im about to explode in pictures. that's what everyone likes to do anyways, look at pictures then just leave lol losers j/k :P last time i grew autos they started flowering just at about 20-21 days, i hope the ak 47 doesn't prolong that function

[maspino1]

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new growth directly in the middle of the pic worrying me:
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[Italiano715]

Just stopped in to see how things are coming along! Looking good my friend! :thumbsup:

[maspino1]

thanks! i've been reading your post too, lookin at your pics really makes the wait seem a whole lot better, you should definitely post some more pics lol

[maspino1]

I GOT PREFLOWERS!!! i just checked out my plant's nodes and i see tiny little white hairs, so exciting XD

when do i change my nute formula to bloom???

[maspino1]

check out the middle just to the right of the stem, you can just barely see the hair but it's that long white wisp jsut beside the stem:
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[Italiano715]

I GOT PREFLOWERS!!! i just checked out my plant's nodes and i see tiny little white hairs, so exciting XD

when do i change my nute formula to bloom???

I don't know about you, but I haven't had to use any ferts with my AF! :thumbsup:

[maspino1]

i know, i've read your journal, but i'm using coco so if i don't use ferts i got nothing lol

[maspino1]

Wed, October 14, 2009
Day 14 from germination
Observed increase in internode length
Increasing odour
Nutrient solution [LQ:G]/2L=[5mL:4mL]/2mL >> as last feeding of the day
Attempt at CO2 enrichment with bottle of yeast/sugar mixture on top of box next to intake fan
Only allowed 2 hours dark today
Thu, October 15, 2009
Only 2 hours dark today
Fri, October 16, 2009
Gave 4 hours of dark today
Detectable plant smell in the air
Sat, October 17, 2009
Smell is getting stronger
PREFLOWERS!!!
Will switch to bloom nutes on Sunday, tomorrow
Sun, October 18, 2009
Preflowers very visible now
Switched to [G:LQ]/2L = [10mL:5mL]/2L
CO2 idea was a bust so stopped using that fucking useless shit

[FrostAie]

That needs transplanted then the sex will progress quicker when the bottom wilts it usually means the roots are at the bottom and running out of space.

[maspino1]

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[maspino1]

my coco seems to be expanding in volume... i wonder if it has anything to do with root mass pushing it up or perhaps it dries out thoroughly in between waterings because even when i water it seems as if the coco grabs all of the water.. so weird, i hope that's not a bad thing

[maspino1]

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[maspino1]

you can see a def/burn/ph lockout problem on the tips and edges of the older leaves travelling towards the stem. i'm trying to fix that with a cal-max and setting the ph higher to around 6. so far so good... :S

[headshake]

you want to shoot for a pH of 6.3-6.8 for soil, with 6.3 being ideal.

everything is looking good though. any pics of the problem?


-shake

[maspino1]

I'm growing in Coco :P i tried taking pics but it wouldn't show up, I think I caught it just before it got to the worse end. The progression of the lighter spots stopped after I added calmax and brought the ph higher up to around 6. this is currently what my nodes look like:
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but i have to be careful, the runoff was a little low again so i think i have to redo the ph of my solution

[headshake]

gotcha!

she looks nice and tight!

damn it. you said something about run-off that reminded me that i was supposed to check my run-off when i watered today. damn IT! lol.

good growing!


-shake

[maspino1]

i know eh, that runoff crap is annoying! everything's always changing it's frustrating

[Italiano715]

I'm growing in Coco :P i tried taking pics but it wouldn't show up, I think I caught it just before it got to the worse end. The progression of the lighter spots stopped after I added calmax and brought the ph higher up to around 6. this is currently what my nodes look like:
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but i have to be careful, the runoff was a little low again so i think i have to redo the ph of my solution

Looking good, my looks similar to that in the pistil growth, just a tad more going on! My shit is big as shit now! Lot bigger than I'd ever expected! Can't wait to see how yours comes out! :thumbsup::jointsmile:

[maspino1]

Mon, October 19, 2009
Noticed edges of leaves a little bit darker than near the stem; could be normal lightness on new leaves or... maybe not
Leaf edges looking curled; beginnings of heat stress
Tue, October 20, 2009
Plant is now stretching and still in preflower stage; more preflowers showing
Sprayed with epsom solution twice today
Added about 1tsp molasses to current formula B:LQ/2L=[10mL:5mL]/2L
Wed, October 21, 2009
Noticed darker "patches" of green on leaves; could be toxicity
Also ran ph'd fresh water through coco to rewet it.. that might've been the reason to the added volume
Thu, October 22, 2009
Interveinal chlorosis as expected around this time
Sprayed with epsom salt solution
Changed solution to B:LQ=[6mL:5mL]/2L
Fri, October 23, 2009
Bought Cal-Max and Pure Blend Pro Bloom for Soil (higher P)
New formula LQ:Bs:CM=[5mL:5mL:2.5mL]/2L
Brought pH higher so now indicator is closer to 6.0
New solution has greatly reduced N which is NPK:1-4-5
Sat, October 24, 2009
Buds are slowly starting to form
Fed multiple times today to encourage bud site formation
Sun, October 25, 2009
Stretch seems to have ended and buds are still SLOWLY forming
Gonna attempt 24/0 in week 5 to see what effect it has on bud development
Added a 10000K T5 @ 24w to box; very interesting as the light looks sort of purple
Can't understand how some tips are brown; maybe just necrosis from past problem?

[rowandacres]

Subscribed :) looks good get some pics up :P

[maspino1]

these are the leaves right underneath the main bud
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overall size of plant for perspective on this particular easy ryder specimen
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green and black - great combination of colors
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this is the topmost bud, i guess you can call it the cola
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[DOUGAL25]

Looking good, giving me thoughts of AF strains...
Are u planning on transplanting it soon?
I'll be watching the effects of 24/0 lighting
:stoned:

[Italiano715]

Things looking good over here! Definitely a bush! Can't wait to see the buds start to form on that thing! :D Keep it up my friend!

[maspino1]

i knowww i've been anxiously waiting every 6 hour mark so i can take it out to water and stare at its crotch/es but it is seriously taking ETERNITY. i have a feeling that one day i'll come home and look at it'll be so hairy it could've come from italy (lol). it is only day 27..

and dougal, i wont be transplanting it, i have height limits so right now it's not an option until i get a one of those grow closets. i actually put it on 24/0 cuz i know 20/4 was good for veg so roots can grow at night but i'm too impatient to wait any longer!

[maspino1]

OMG! my plant was wilted when i came home so i watered it, and i literally saw my plant erecting its branches! that was so cool lol i had to post about it. i guess all that extra potassium sure helped with water movement!

[Italiano715]

OMG! my plant was wilted when i came home so i watered it, and i literally saw my plant erecting its branches! that was so cool lol i had to post about it. i guess all that extra potassium sure helped with water movement!

If you ever feel like your having a problem with the water penetrating your soil you can use a couple drops of dish soap and that will help the water get saturated into the soil! That's of course if you didn't know that already :thumbsup:

[maspino1]

ohhh i didn't know that yet actually but that's a good idea. wouldn't the soap raise the pH? btw im starting to get pissed bro, day 28 and this bitch ain't flowering, all i get is some hair and a whole bunch of tiny fucking leaves that don't do shit all. i think i might've fucked up with the nutes or somethin

[Italiano715]

ohhh i didn't know that yet actually but that's a good idea. wouldn't the soap raise the pH? btw im starting to get pissed bro, day 28 and this bitch ain't flowering, all i get is some hair and a whole bunch of tiny fucking leaves that don't do shit all. i think i might've fucked up with the nutes or somethin

What's your feeding schedule like and how much nitrogen are you giving them as to phosphorus?

[maspino1]

i feed up to 2 times a day. my water has cal max at 2-0-0 and bloom at 1-4-5 and liquid karma which has nothing so in total it's 2-4-5 but im thinking i put too much in it. i would give the ppm but i don't have anything to tell me that

[Italiano715]

i feed up to 2 times a day. my water has cal max at 2-0-0 and bloom at 1-4-5 and liquid karma which has nothing so in total it's 2-4-5 but im thinking i put too much in it. i would give the ppm but i don't have anything to tell me that

Correct me if I am wrong but the ratio is 3-4-5? When flowering starts you want little to none on the nitrogen. You want the P for sure, but you want to starve it of nitrogen so that the buds can use up all the available nutrients in the leaves. It also helps run the chlorophyll out of the bud, which also helps in the taste department. :jointsmile:

IMO though, your plant looks fine to me! Massive bush. It will start, just give it time! :thumbsup:

[maspino1]

lol no, you're totally right. but it's weird cuz i'm starting to see N def starting from the bottom leaves. i was actually reading around and found out that lowryders apparently like less food so im gonna back down, i'm at 4mL as opposed to 5mL per 2L of water and i'll probably go even lower if nothing changes. day 30 is tomorrow and im not seeing what i usually see at this time

[maspino1]

This is how it looks overall, you can see the bud sites, the branches that get close to the light are actually really fucking thick and bushy, i can't believe how much the few inches towards the light a difference can make:
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Here's a bud just below the main cola:
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Top cola:
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Here's from Day 26 all the way to Day 33. Notice how much bushier and taller and further up the main cola is as well. So far it's just as bushy but a lot wider and a lot taller lol:
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[Italiano715]

I'm amazed at how stout that thing is! Hugggge damn leaves! Mine have more of a sativa look to them! Buds and trichs are coming along GREAT though! This will probably be done mid Nov. I'm guessing!

Other than that, I bet you have thick dense buds on that! Can't wait to see them in about 3 weeks! :thumbsup:

[maspino1]

actually the closer to the top you get the more sativa the plant starts to look, maybe the leaves haven't filled in yet. and yes, i'm hoping mid november!! i can't wait to smoke this shit. unfortunately she wilts everyday because i'm away for work for 12 hours at a time :( i wonder how that affects harvest size and quality... i think you should give coco a try sometime, i think my plant thinks i have a bigger pot than it actually does, hence wilting. i'll give you some tips to help you out cuz i think i pretty much know how to avoid all the crap now, except for the dreaded wilt lol

[frostedwonder]

For AF plants, to me it would just seem easier to go with a soiless mix and go with something basic in the beginning with almost nothing in it for nuts then 2-3wks transplant to a better soil like Fox Farm Ocean or something similar, and then sit back and 2.5 months later you will be done. Of course I would still check run offs and all that but seriously after rereading your post you seem to over do just about everything for a plant that has been bred to just take off by itself. I can understand making sure it has everything it needs but with such a small time frame of life all that you are throwing at it seems to stunt something that is already a runt. I like how diligent you are about things but I am guessing a promix/light warrior/ocean forest blend with some lime or other buffer would have been not only easier but healthier then giving your plant everything in the cupboard from beginning to end. I totally dig what you are doing but it makes me rethink using them indoors. If space wasn't a factor for you would you still continue to pick them to grow?:hippy:

[maspino1]

what you just said is something i realized, i believe, in week 5. i noticed how i stunted the plant with too many nutes at preflowering and now iim paying for it :( i think i would choose autoflowers again though just because the novelty hasn't worn off plus the fact that it's almost ready to chop lol i would consider a soil grow once i'm out of nutes, maybe a bigger pot with soil would dry out slower. i think im gonna be fucked when i go back to work cuz it's only been 5 hours since my last rinse and my medium is already getting hard from lack of water..... any ideas?

[maspino1]

Here are the topmost buds, hopefully to fatten up by the end of next week:
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This is a bud with a lonely little flower off in the right hand corner that I'm so tempted to chop off, dry and then smoke:
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Here is the top bud, le cola:
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Now look at the orange on this one.. does this look like rot or mould to you?:
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[DOUGAL25]

Now look at the orange on this one.. does this look like rot or mould to you?:

It just looks like normal aging of the pistils. (I think that's what you meant by the orange).

Looking good still, those AF's sure are fast
:stoned:

[frostedwonder]

I haven't even used that medium myself but there must be tons of people who use it on here. Without a system in place you were going to just hand water the whole way thru or what? But since its towards the end of cycle pretty soon what things do you have at your disposal? :cool::stoned:

[maspino1]

ok, that's a relief to hear, last time i grew i had some orange mould and it fucked up my buds, then afteri smoked them, fucked me up too lol

so far i've cut a hole in the lid of the original container and then put it on but it doesn't seem to be helping much, it must be mostly transpiration. i'm thinking of putting a the pot into a second yogurt container to maybe help, but that's all i can think of right now. i like woke up today not even from a 10 hour sleep and i take a look in my box and the poor thing's wilted again. i did realize though that i should use pure water to unwilt her because of the concentration gradient inside the plant's roots, no wonder it takes forever to get her back up when i use my nutrient solution to fix her

[maspino1]

i've also decided that i'm going to be using a folgers container next time i grow, not the small ones, the big ones. plus i'm gonna reduce light when i'm at work, i'll put it back to 20/4 instead.

something odd i've noticed is that i don't really smell the plant. like i know by this time it should smell really strong but it doesn't... it's either cuz i let it wilt too often so it's like "fuck you, i'm not makin any oils for you bitch" or cuz i have this lamp that emits ions that break down odours:
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it was sort of an experiment but perhaps it actually worked..

[maspino1]

ok i'm at day 39 and i'm getting very little smell which is NOT normal. i know all the plants i've grown before smelled enough to stink up my apartment. and it's usually this disgusting strong smell too. plus my buds aren't getting any thicker like they should about this time.

[maspino1]

Bought some new pipes for my new budz! The wooden one is for social occasions, it lets you keep your stash in the bowl while it's in your pocket. The soapstone one has leaves on it and the bowl is like the central part of a flower:
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Just showing some aging on the old growth:
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I LOVE this shot, it looks like I'm advertising for a seedbank although you can see the main stem, which sucks cuz I think that "stems" from my problem with overnuting them during preflowers:
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Here's a pic of my biggest branch, it's the one closest to the light, understandably it's the biggest bud on the entire plant lol:
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[frostedwonder]

I wish my Yogurt can with a plant like that!!! nice no matter what.. Live and learn try and fail but when you win its damn nice... Keep it up all things will turn green and good!

[maspino1]

lol you're yogurt can what? thanks for the nute tips btw, i made an action plan for my next grow and i'm reducing the amounts used

[maspino1]

So as usual with all of my grows my fucking light falls on my buds and burns em! Btw how do we give rep? I think I have enough posts to give em out

[Italiano715]

So as usual with all of my grows my fucking light falls on my buds and burns em! Btw how do we give rep? I think I have enough posts to give em out

find whatever post you want to +rep and hit the little grey scale at the top right (the middle one) on that post. It will then ask if you want to give a + or a - then a comment if you like.

Hope that helped! :thumbsup:


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[maspino1]

sweet, that was exactly what i was looking for lol

[maspino1]

Here's some pics of the trichomes on the leaves:
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[maspino1]

HELP! lol i just checked my trichs and they're clear so if they're clear they'll be at their peak right? it's cloudy/clear now and i want to harvest to get that clear up head high pero the joint doctor says it should flower for 7 weeks and this is only the end of my 4th week... does it matter?? i've flushed for 4 days now and a lot of leaves have fallen off. i want the trichs that'll help me with working out cuz i like not feeling the pain, it makes it easier to push myself

[maspino1]

yooo is this shit supposed to be happening??? at first i thought it was normal coloring but those leaves are wilted, they're just hangin low like coconuts:
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[maspino1]

So I've finally chopped her down:
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I'm really kind of disappointed lol but at least i refreshed my memory of all the things I should be doing while growing. BTW, i smoked a few popcorn buds from the lower leaves and I don't know if ti's because they haven't dried yet but I'm not even stoned. For real it's disappointing, the rest is in the box blowing in the wind, i'll take pics after it dries:hippy:

[chrisouth]

hey, the plant looks pretty decent for a af. hope all goes well after drying.ive grown a couple different af strain myself. the diesel ryder was sum pretty good shi+. in the past i have mostly been an outdoor guerilla guy. this yr i went with himalayan gold (nice yield and good smoke),lemon skunk (super funky) and with g13 labs thai super skunk. surprisingly the tss was better than i expected and for a skunk plant the odor was minimal. due to relocating i now have to rethink my whole method of operation. i want to go with the afs but its vital that i either find a good yielding/low odor strain or find a inexpensive method to eliminate the odor. i recently made a thread to see if i could get any insight on a low odor af but havent recieved much info. would you know of any ? also if i was to grow some auto ak47 in a grow cabinet would a carbon filter be good enough for the odor problems ? thanks and good luck on your future grows. for me, everytime i grow i learn something new and in return improve my yields for the following grow. peace !

[Italiano715]

I'm really kind of disappointed lol but at least i refreshed my memory of all the things I should be doing while growing. BTW, i smoked a few popcorn buds from the lower leaves and I don't know if ti's because they haven't dried yet but I'm not even stoned. For real it's disappointing, the rest is in the box blowing in the wind, i'll take pics after it dries:hippy:

It seems that your little lady had some rootbound problems! That could have lead to the size deficiency of the buds! Had a plant go rootbound on me one time in flower and only got about 14g of dry bud off it. I was terribly disappointed, but live and learn I suppose!

[maspino1]

actually, if you're looking for a low odor autoflower i'd say easy ryder would be it, i barely smelt it, compared to the lowryders i grew before it. honestly kudos to you for growing regular strains because i honestly can't wait that long lol i'm too impatient, which is why my plant didn't produce ienough just cuz it's not ripe enough... it may have to do with the hps, the time i used t5s it was really good, it must have something to do with spectrum? who knows... for odour though, i have a fragrance lamp that i just burn isopropyl in and the ions that are emitted take care of the odour, that could be a reason why i didn't really smell it, i had it just outside my intake fan. that might have had an effect on potency... who knows, ions an be mysterious things. google 'fragrance lamp' and if you find a place to order it, you can just buy 99% isopropyl alcohol but follow the instructions that comes with the lamp.

well, im glad to hear that it was rootbound! lol... really only because now that i'm growing in a giant folgers tub i'm gonna avoid that problem in the future. thanks a lot for the insight, i was wondering what was going on in the middle, the roots starting growing UP! i also noticed near chopping time that the medium didn't dry as fast as it usually did. im excited to see more of your plant, i'd love to see how muych better it's gonna be, obviously cuz you had a bigger pot. i remember growing a northern lights once in a beer cup! haha it was a male, thinking back on it i'm almost too humored by the fact that i was actually hoping for a female. bro im talkingn lots holy

all in all, i'd say this isn't that bad, if it was stronger then maybe i would be a little higher right now but it's definitely a mellow, clear, happy high. that makese sense though.. you don't get body effects until past ripeness. ps > get high and listen to 'russian roulette by rihanna'. the bass in the beginnning sounds sooooo good

[maspino1]

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[GetThisOrDie]

You should probably let it cure for awhile to increase potency...

But ya it looks good for an AF, from all the pics ive seen. I am interested in growing this strain because of its large side branching pheno from the ak47 genes.

Im glad to hear that the odor wasnt too bad but you did say you had some type of odor nuetralizer.

[maspino1]

yeah it's curing right now. for some reason i keep giving it away but the bottle just doesn't seem to empty... anyways, yeah i'd recommend it, this chick was bushy as fuck. like, more bushy thatn i had hoped for cuz i grew in a box that was made to hold my pc and it outbushed my horizontal space but i'd say if it weren't for the branches i would've yielded less so there's 2 sides to that story!:hippy:

[Jeb5304]

So I've finally chopped her down:
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I'm really kind of disappointed lol but at least i refreshed my memory of all the things I should be doing while growing. BTW, i smoked a few popcorn buds from the lower leaves and I don't know if ti's because they haven't dried yet but I'm not even stoned. For real it's disappointing, the rest is in the box blowing in the wind, i'll take pics after it dries:hippy:

probably due to the fact that you only grew it 6.5 weeks when its a 10-11 week strain. Easy Rider AKA Lowryder #2 x AK47

This is an f1 cross between a Lowryder #2 and an automatic AK47 in which the two parents strongly exhibit their best genetic traits: high resin production, the fruity aroma (of a carefully selected Lowryder #2 phenotype), and the size and branching of the AK47 automatic.
This poly-hybrid is fully auto-flowering and matures in 70-75 days from germination, reaching optimal size if given enough light (intensity and time). The best conditions are 20 hours of light and 4 of dark during the entire cycle. Outdoors the best time is may-august, but it's easy to do multiple cycles per season, until November.

[drudown11]

probably due to the fact that you only grew it 6.5 weeks when its a 10-11 week strain.

Yeah man to be honest your buds are not ripe. I wait until the hairs at least turn partly brown to start checking it with the microscope.

Your buds didn't swell or have the time to get nice and frosty. They look very immature and I bet they smell/taste like hay9my first crop did). PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE WHEN IT COMES TO MARIJUANA!


Dont take my post in the wrong way. My first grow I did the exact thing you did, pick them too early. Wait until their ripe and you will be rewarded next time

[tristan1986]

Looks like you got from start to finish which is what matters!
Good work and good luck with the new grow :thumbsup: