South Florida Newbie Outdoor Grow Log :-D

[talonkardel]

The following pics are pre and post transplant, the last pic is the 2 that were transplanted last week.

The soil mixture is purely organic, used a combination of:
1part Peat moss
1part perlite
1part Vermiculite
The soil itself is not miracle gro, lol... no extra unwanted nutes for me :-)

I just started feeding them full strength fox farm nutes, 1/2 strength for first 2 weeks ( they are 3 1/2 weeks old)

I was also wondering, seeing as how its so late in the season, how long they would have to veg (frost is not a problem here in south fla.) before i can expect them to start flowering, seeing as how we are in autumnal equinox.

Any comments or criticism is welcome!!!!

[talonkardel]

Whoops forgot a couple pics (taken at night)

[talonkardel]

*bump*

Was also wanting to start applying the FIM technique , anyone who has experience doing this before have any tips?

[bombdiggity]

how's the winter over there? how cold does it get because you will be going well into January most likely :thumbsup:

They will start to flower as soon as they are mature enough if the lighting is correct

[talonkardel]

well more like mid south FLA, i may have to keep close watch as last year we had record lows of about 29 degrees.

If all goes well this winter should pass by with the lowest of 35 0_o

As of now it might as well be 12/12, the plants themselves get about 9 hours of direct light a day

Im also planning on starting an indoor grow as well soon.. seeing as how these are just bagseed, id like to step up my genetic game and get some real beauties. Gonna be ordering the Nirvana Chrystal, looks yummy :-).

[DreadedHermie]

anyone who has experience doing this before have any tips?

I'd say hold off on that. Your plants are probably about to start showing flowers. :thumbsup: Unless height's a real concern (like if the neighbors can see 'em) you'll probably hurt your yield by fimming or topping so small, right before flower like this.

You need to get 1 plant in 1 pot ASAP. That's a much bigger concern.

You should also beat back that undergrowth around your plants, unless you're trying to hide 'em in there. You'll get more bugs, etc., and your plants are having to compete for light, space, resources with each other and the surrounding vegetation.

And "organic" is overrated, IMO. FYI:


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Just my .02.
Gonna follow along and I'm wishing you luck. :thumbsup:
Be careful, FL's a bitch. Hermie

[sunbiz1]

You can grow year round outdoors in Florida, and now is the perfect time down there.

BTW, pic number 4 is an Indica.

[sunbiz1]

I'd say you're high, those are a May/June harvest according to the pics. The light cycle in Florida is perfect for an early outdoor grow.

I resided down there for almost 10 years.


I'd say hold off on that. Your plants are probably about to start showing flowers. :thumbsup: Unless height's a real concern (like if the neighbors can see 'em) you'll probably hurt your yield by fimming or topping so small, right before flower like this.

You need to get 1 plant in 1 pot ASAP. That's a much bigger concern.

You should also beat back that undergrowth around your plants, unless you're trying to hide 'em in there. You'll get more bugs, etc., and your plants are having to compete for light, space, resources with each other and the surrounding vegetation.

And "organic" is overrated, IMO. FYI:


Just my .02.
Gonna follow along and I'm wishing you luck. :thumbsup:
Be careful, FL's a bitch. Hermie

[sunbiz1]

You'll have to transplant those eventually.


The following pics are pre and post transplant, the last pic is the 2 that were transplanted last week.

The soil mixture is purely organic, used a combination of:
1part Peat moss
1part perlite
1part Vermiculite
The soil itself is not miracle gro, lol... no extra unwanted nutes for me :-)

I just started feeding them full strength fox farm nutes, 1/2 strength for first 2 weeks ( they are 3 1/2 weeks old)

I was also wondering, seeing as how its so late in the season, how long they would have to veg (frost is not a problem here in south fla.) before i can expect them to start flowering, seeing as how we are in autumnal equinox.

Any comments or criticism is welcome!!!!

[talonkardel]

You should also beat back that undergrowth around your plants, unless you're trying to hide 'em in there. You'll get more bugs, etc., and your plants are having to compete for light, space, resources with each other and the surrounding vegetation.


Yeah ive noticed the pests are becoming a slight annoyance, i have been using Safer Garden spray on the plants at night, but theres still little tiny flies that like to run around them as well as some tiny tiny spiders starting webs between pots, i went out with a chemical pest spray and sprayed around the area. But yeah, trimming the site down was a thought i had, thanks for the support!

[DreadedHermie]

No problem. :thumbsup:

I can see in one of the pics that at least one of the pots has an attached saucer. Rip dat baby offa dere. Standing water's gonna make yer bug problem worse, and your growing medium mucky and sour. Bleah!

You could set the pots back in a saucer, then--just not attached to the pot. Gotta keep things clean and dry. The pot sitting right on the ground is no good, either. You'll have an ant relay race going pretty quick (or worse).

Search the user "stinkyattic." Read every sticky she has written. She's a mod here, and sometimes she has to spank people when things start getting out of hand. Hermie likes that part, maybe because Hermie was weaned too early. :(



14's too early, right?

[talonkardel]

Yeah i hear ya, as far as ground pests go i spread ant poison amongst any and all piles i saw, i keep a close watch on these babies.. but yeah thats a good point about the saucer underneath, i never would have thought of that :) .
I have some other good news however, i went to go see my friend to pick up some fine greenery, and he bestowed upon me about 30 magical seeds :jointsmile: Im not sure if i'll have enough materials for all of them, but soon.. soon.

[DreadedHermie]

Read up on cloning (taking cuttings). Fun and easy. Get one female plant and grow her cuttings for years. All guaranteed female, all mature and ready to flower as soon as they have roots! No need to pop 30 beans at once. :smokin:

[talonkardel]

Hah yeah i hear ya, i only have supplies for 10 more anyways :-D, i just want to make sure i have a few girls out of the pack.

My second/main project im still working on is going to be my indoor grow whenever my seeds decide to come in the mail. Those are the ones im going to focus on cloning :smokin: i just want to see all the different varieties that my collection of potent bagseeds produce.

[DreadedHermie]

Just be careful with your numbers. Lot of us on this board are legal med patients. No such thing where you are. State of FL got no patience, likes to consider everybody a trafficker, even med users.

25 plants and up is real serious there. Can't remember if it was minimum mandatory or automatic referral for federal prosecution or what, but it was heavy like a murder charge. Take your house, too. Nothin' to play with. Mos' peeps think fartin' around with bagseed just ain't worth the risks. They're considerable. Jus' sayin. Hermie

[talonkardel]

Ah to ease my mind and yours, i grow on a 6 acre property with 7 foot fences bordering my neighbors property. This is country Florida i live in :)
Just as well, paranoia is not getting the best of me here :thumbsup:

As per your advice however i did transplant the 2 that were sharing a home, and removed the trays. I would be posting some pics but my camera eats batteries like nothing else. I'll have some new ones up soon.

[talonkardel]

Okay so heres some pics, they all are looking very healthy, i used a couple drops per/gal of superthrive and half strength nutes.

Ill be updating again soon :)

[talonkardel]

i went out again today to inspect for those annoying little spiders, found a few hiding underneath the lower nodes of 2 of my plants, after i noticed the tips of the lower leaves were brown where they were sitting.

Im probably going to end up going to get the neem oil and start spraying them down with it.

I trimmed down the vegetation and sprayed more pest spray around the area, ants and crickets/grasshoppers are gone. As well i think i got the last of the spiders that found a home there.

just as well does anyone know how to get rid of flies? or ward them away from your area?

[talonkardel]

Okay so heres an interesting defect that im not too happy about, a couple of the lower leaves on 2 of the plants are looking nasty. The bugs are gone all but some little flies that like to hover around.

I wanna know what it is that is causing the leaves to decay like they are, and if i should just chop the branch etc.

Other than those 2, the other 7 are loving the hell out of their new homes, got about 2 inches in the last couple days.

[DreadedHermie]

Looks like critters, maybe.

Can you get a shot of the underside of this leaf?

Got a magnifying glass to give yourself a better look?

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[talonkardel]

You would think so, but no, i just checked them this morning, aside from the spot of decay on those leaves, it doesnt seem like its spreading, no bugs though (thank god). Would it be better for me to just let the plant heal itself? or just hack off the limb.

[talonkardel]

Soo today i went to my local home depot and picked up some supplies to being constructing my greenhouse. 2X4 8ft wooden stakes, some sheet plastic. The dimensions im using will be 7X5X7 , probably wont be finished till later this week, but if all goes well i should be able to eliminate alot of my concerns regarding the terrors of growing outdoors :-).

[talonkardel]

Well it turns out i need more sheet plastic to finish :-) but you can kind of get the idea of what im doing.

The family is doing very well :) , the decay apparently went away, flies still a problem, but hopefully wont be once i get tent finished. It gets around 94deg far. out there in that field.

any ideas welcome! fucking hate flies..

[talonkardel]

MALE!!! BOOOO...

So one of my biggest subjects decided to start preflowering today.... multiple pods at the internodes... more than enough convincing after looking at other male preflower pics...

Im going to be moving this guy about 100yds away...

none of my others have started showing their sex yet.. but im praying for no more males :(

[talonkardel]

Pic of the male sacks

[talonkardel]

Well good news kinda bad news today.. more preflowers showing, have confirmed 3 females, 1 hermie (i did the same with the hermie as i did with the male, moved his ass far far away.)

4 of the other older ones still havent shown convincing sex yet. But more than likely ill know by next week.

Ill be posting pics up later, i wanna know when i should switch to my bloom nutes, seeing as how they are only in preflower stage.

Anyone got an idea let me know! :pimp:

[DreadedHermie]

No rush to switch nutes--think how it happens in nature:

Different nearby vegetation dies, rots, and fertilizes the soil from above as your roots dig deeper / wider and encounter different nutrients in the soil. Happens gradually as you move further into "season."

Probably the biggest difference the plants will notice is less available nitrogen when you switch to bloom nutes. As nitrogen helps a vegging plant get big and strong, you don't need to be in a hurry to kick your babies off the veg nutes. (If you had vegged the plants indoors at 24/0 until they were a couple feet tall and bushy, might make sense to slam them into flower when you stuck 'em outside, but that's just me.) Keeping the plants on veg nutes won't prevent them from flowering; the light cycle's gonna take care of that. :thumbsup:

Some folks like to flush all the veg nutes out and suddenly change to bloom nutes when they switch to 12/12. Never seemed necessary to me. (I have to flush often enough just cause of salt buildup from hard water and nutes.) :(

Don't stress over the male plants. They're gonna be close to 50% over the long haul, obviously. Some say stressing the plants in any way (pot crowding, bugs, wet soil, etc., etc.) contributes to more males turning up. If that's true, it's another reason to try to do "everything right" when the plants are young. It does seem like the biggest, strongest, prettiest seedlings often turn out to be male, FWIW. :mad:

Odd you should get a hermie so young (although I guess I was only 9 when I started trying on my sister's clothes!) :eek: Be a little patient confirming the "maleness" of your flowers. Some strains produce new growth that looks a lot like "balls" at first, that then just develops into new shoots.

Once you have confirmed maleness, you're probably going to need to kill them. :chainsaw: Between breezes and insects I think those males can get your ladies knocked up from a hundred yards away pretty easy.




HTH. The plants are looking nice, BTW. Good work. :thumbsup:

Hermie

[talonkardel]

:thumbsup: Thanks again for the info and support hermie :) , another update (i need to buy more batteries for my camera, will probably have pics up later) i finished applying the plastic sheeting over the frame, i think its still getting too hot during the day to put them underneath yet, or atleast till i can get it completely covered with another roll of sheet plastic.

I ended up pulling the male and letting the hermie grow a bit longer, still far far away from the others.. which are looking amazing, they are branching out very nicely, and no more male preflowers (not yet atleast) so im hoping to have atleast 4-5 mature ladies here soon :). Still feeding the older ones full strength nutes and 2-3 drops/gal of superthrive, seems to be working quite well.

I was wondering what the temperature threshold for the plants is, at midday the temp gauge reads 93 deg underneath the tent. which ill be using eventually when they start to flower to keep them out of the rain, and later sheltering them from cold.

And as always, i appreciate any comments or criticism!

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey man looks like your on a journey:thumbsup: Man thats some bad heat ya got down there. If i were you the first concern i would have would be keeping them watered! I really wouldn't have that plastic out like that. It doesnt look natural. It will only draw attention and you really dont need it. Are ya going to grow them in pots or put them in the ground? Il be watching man:thumbsup:, but really, get rid of the plastic and keep them babys wet:rasta:

If ya put em in the ground they will not dry out so fast and they would be cooler in the ground, plus have the advantage of unlimited root growth:thumbsup:

Good luck:thumbsup::rasta:

[talonkardel]

Ah, well the plastic is only there for when winter rolls around here, sometime around january some years its dropped below 30deg far. but no less. But yeah, the ones in the bigger pots im going to keep them where they are, id be too worried about killing it trying to transplant in a clay pot like that. The soil around is way too acidic for any kind of real growth to occur (believe me ive tried), id rather try my luck with large pots :cool:

Temps here dont start to get low until early january so i think it'll be fine until then. The humidity factor out here is rediculous as well, somewhere around 70% today. But i make sure they never get dehydrated ;)

okay so here i've got a couple pics of the tent and underneath, obviously in need of more construction *and sheet plastic*, but for now it serves its purpose. Eventually ill get it ready for winter, for now they are starting to bush out, looking nice :D

[LetsSeeYa]

I grow in pots too. They dry out fast when the temp's get up there, so ya might want to watch em close. Can anyone see that green house? Just thinking someone might want to investigate it. Just looks out of place, but if your comfortable then, your call:thumbsup:
:rasta:

[DreadedHermie]

High, LSY--whassup?

Hey TK, it just occurred to me--

Are your plants somewhere they won't catch any "stray light" after dark? That can cause problems with hermies and flowering.

No porchlights.
No streetlights.
Occasional car headlight OK, but not much more than that....

Nothing continuous any brighter than the stars and moon, and that's pretty dang dim.

And plants love to get transplanted. Looks like you may be getting close so time to start reading up on it. It's easy--no sweat. :thumbsup:If your plant gets rootbound it'll basically poison itself. :(

Take Care, Hermie

[talonkardel]

Nah man, i live in "the country" if anyone can see the "greenhouse" theyre using binoculars, i know my neighbors, we tilled a 20X10X8 plot last year and grew tomatoes and corn, so they dont really suspect anything sinister. and im not feeling any paranoia :).

I transplanted a couple more the other day, im gonna wait another week or two before transplanting the bigger ones. Which btw 2 have already started showing me white armpit hairs :). It is 100% darkness out where they are at night, It turns out the one i thought was a hermie was just a male, but they were definitely showing pollen pods so i ended up destroying him as well :D. They are really shooting up right now, definitely very healthy.

So far each time i've transplanted the plant was already reaching for the sun again an hour later, so i dont think im to worried in that sense, its just that it's easier to move a plant thats in a plastic pot as opposed to a clay pot.

Ill have some pics up in a couple days, until then, any comments or criticism welcome!!

[talonkardel]

Oh yeah! i also started some peppers tomato and basil plants. also in pots, you cant beat homegrown organic veggies :rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

High, LSY--whassup?

Hey TK, it just occurred to me--

Are your plants somewhere they won't catch any "stray light" after dark? That can cause problems with hermies and flowering.

No porchlights.
No streetlights.
Occasional car headlight OK, but not much more than that....

Nothing continuous any brighter than the stars and moon, and that's pretty dang dim.

And plants love to get transplanted. Looks like you may be getting close so time to start reading up on it. It's easy--no sweat. :thumbsup:If your plant gets rootbound it'll basically poison itself. :(

Take Care, Hermie

Hey Hermie keepen er green?. My first grow i thought turned out great, intill i was reading this year and discovered that what i had grown and smoked, were two hermies. Big ones. lol Hell i thought id grow some plants. I really didnt know what i was doing. But what i did wrong was grow them on my deck. Well the chick that lives here sometimes works late. My daughter was turning the deck light on a few times a week and two nice plants went hermie. I found out 2 years later, because i began to read and read more. I read in a grow log about not taking night time pic's to avoid hermy. Well at that point i was laughing at myself because of how i had showed off the hermies i grew. Wish i would have known then i coulda made femed seeds with a hermy.:thumbsup::rasta:


By the way there got any :apachecopter: ZZZZZZZZZZaass Around there

[talonkardel]

By the way there got any :apachecopter: ZZZZZZZZZZaass Around there

Naw, out here only thing ive ever seen were news helicopters at about 5,000ft, everything else is either private single engine or commercial planes.

Ive lived out here for a couple years now, i keep a low profile :stoned:

[talonkardel]

So! a bit of good news bad news deal today.
I had to remove another male :(, i decided to let this one live to practice topping and some LST techniques.

On the higher note i have one thats already showing pistils at multiple internodes, sad though i wish she was taller :wtf: but thats what you get for planting this late :thumbsup: .

I transplanted one of the bigger ones today, still hasnt shown its gene's yet but hopefully soon she'll be showing me some flowers too :).

I was going out this weekend to shop for flowering nutes and i was thinking about going with Fox Farm's Tiger Bloom/Big bloom, let me know what you think!!

[LetsSeeYa]

So! a bit of good news bad news deal today.
I had to remove another male :(, i decided to let this one live to practice topping and some LST techniques.

On the higher note i have one thats already showing pistils at multiple internodes, sad though i wish she was taller :wtf: but thats what you get for planting this late :thumbsup: .

I transplanted one of the bigger ones today, still hasnt shown its gene's yet but hopefully soon she'll be showing me some flowers too :).

I was going out this weekend to shop for flowering nutes and i was thinking about going with Fox Farm's Tiger Bloom/Big bloom, let me know what you think!!


Hey man, first thing, chop the male! You will be plenty busy with the girls and LSTing is something you can read about. Its not hard. The pollen from a male can travel pretty far. I found a few seeds in mine and i had chopped up the male 100 yards away from my plant. Bees, birds or mother nature can only pollinate your fems. Ya dont want this at all, in less your making seeds. If thats what you have in mind, just move the male down wind. Also very far away and then when you see pollen sacks put a wet bag around it and then just sorta bang around the sack to collect pollen. When the female is ready, put the bag around a lower branch and tap the bag. This will pollinate the buds and you will get seeds. Just use a bread tie for the open end of the bag so you only pollinate the desired branch. Leave till dry then take off gently and discard:thumbsup::rasta:

Also, re-pot, re-pot! I grow in pots and 1 plant can need 4 re-pots.

As far as size is concerned, 50% below the dirt (roots) and 50% above the soil, your plant. Thats how your plants will grow. Also, why a plant needs re-potting. I think with the number of plants, id think about putting a few in the ground to give yourself more time with the potted plants:thumbsup::rasta:

[talonkardel]

Yeah i just as well figured, i gotta get some pictures of my *ugly girl*, like if this plant were a woman, she got beat with the ugly stick. Although i think mother nature topped it for me, lol... theres 4 main branches shooting out of the top.

So down to figures, out of the 9 - 6 are girls :D. I chopped the last boy this morning.. the chances that they actually produced and spread pollen before this are slim to none, i moved them at first sign of pods at the nodes.

So i was wondering, when transplanting, is it best to get the entire root system moved intact? Or is it only neccessary to just get the main root ball.
The plant i have in the largest pot lost alot of its auxillary roots when i transplanted yesterday, but is already taking back to the sun and growing today.
anyways, im going to be doing a flush tomorrow and then start them on my bloom nutes (Open sesame & Tiger bloom*)
Wish me luck!:hippy:

[dmcefc]

Don't worry about being rough when repotting, I did mine and really had to push down on the roots on the side of the pot and it showed no visible harm , I really regret not putting her in the ground though ,I thought if it gets too cold I'll be able to move her in or if its shaded I can move my plant around into the sun but as soon as flowering started it was impossible to move it.

I also don't think you've got anything to worry about with cold , I'm in the UK and am going until mid november probably ,so I'd swap with you any day.

Good Growin.

[concussion]

you will probly need to take them inside nightly as it gets into late nov as though it does not frost until december (not freeze) but there does get surface frost it does get too cold for too long over night, day temps should be fine, maybe an occasional cool day

[talonkardel]

I also don't think you've got anything to worry about with cold , I'm in the UK and am going until mid november probably ,so I'd swap with you any day.


lol, yeah, here i think our highs stay in the 50's during the coldest part of our year. It has dropped below 30 in recent years. but, once again, im feeling good vibes off my plants :) i think they like it here.:rastasmoke:

[dmcefc]

lol, yeah, here i think our highs stay in the 50's during the coldest part of our year. It has dropped below 30 in recent years. but, once again, im feeling good vibes off my plants :) i think they like it here.:rastasmoke:

We having very mild weather at the moment ,we are in the mid 50's during the day and low to mid 40's of the night. just hope I get a bit more of it until my plant is nearer finishing.

One good thing about the colder weather is less bugs.

[secret420]

hey brother id you havent got to crazy with your tent yet i would like to suggest using 1/2 inch or 1 inch pvc and the connectors you can get online cheap they will last much longer and you can take it down and move it easily if needed i will post a little sketch up and a price list in a lil bit so you can see if you like it but im tellin you youll be much happier using pvc than wood.,

-secret:)

[secret420]

as promised took me a bit longer than i expected to build this in my program but it came out pretty good its the same dimensions you originally stated 7x5x7 feet and a 6 foot tall by 2.5 feet wide door. materials list to follow. best this is you can use a variety of dif methods to attach the plastic, you could use velcro for the door or a tarp zipper. if you are interested let me know ill throw in some ideas anytime.

-secret:)

[secret420]

ok heres the parts list-

17- 10' 1" schedule 40 pvc pipe (2.06 apiece)
12- 1" schedule 40 tees (.59 apiece)
10- 1" schedule 40 3-way corner t's (around 2.35 apiece)
2- 1" schedule 40 elbows (.48 apiece)

if you want it to stay together forever get some pvc cement to and you can glue it altoghether and that shit will never come apart or rot. if you want all the exact dimensions let me know so you can cut the pipes all the right size. this doesnt include any of the outside this is just the frame the plastic and however you decide to attach it to the frame is differant and is very simple.

anywho the total cost of the frame is only $66.57. all the stuff except the 3-way t's can be purchased at home depot for the prices i listed. GOOD LUCK!!! let me know whats up. you can get the 3-way corner tees on ebay.

-secret:)

[talonkardel]

Its a nice day today :) no clouds 70 degrees full sun. My plants are feeling the vibes :thumbsup: ive already started naming my girls, they just look so pretty. I didnt get a chance to get down to the store yesterday so i placed a pickup order online, they got amazing prices. So im still feeding them the same formula until sunday when i flush them and then monday its off to the races :D
Thanks for the tips secret! ill think about it, for now my tent is holding up just fine, plus i just went out and spent 50$ on flowering nutes, more soil etc.
I got bills to pay too ya know :) gotta work that budget in the best way.
I really like how my grow has turned out so far so i'm gonna be getting some Primo seeds to start next year. Ill be putting pics soon.

Now off to go get smashed and watch college football, later!:jointsmile:

[secret420]

No worries talon. for those seeds i would def give the attitude a go they are badass guaranteed to get your shit.

-secret:)

[talonkardel]

Yeah i was thinking about going with attitude bank as well, ive seen alot of good reviews from everyone about them.
So yeah its supposed to drop down to low 30's tonight a freak of nature cold front is moving through. but then itll be back up into the high 70's on monday (praying that weather forecasts are somewhat accurate). Should i be worried about covering my plants for the night? Or just let them tough it out.
My blood is way too thin for this weather.. lame:wtf::wtf:
Anyone got an idea lemme know!

[sunbiz1]

I just checked your forecast, looks like a low in the mid-40's for your area. Your girls should be fine uncovered in OK FL!. Good luck.

Yeah i was thinking about going with attitude bank as well, ive seen alot of good reviews from everyone about them.
So yeah its supposed to drop down to low 30's tonight a freak of nature cold front is moving through. but then itll be back up into the high 70's on monday (praying that weather forecasts are somewhat accurate). Should i be worried about covering my plants for the night? Or just let them tough it out.
My blood is way too thin for this weather.. lame:wtf::wtf:
Anyone got an idea lemme know!

[talonkardel]

Okay so heres some new pics! Everyone looks great, Tallest is 22" (dubbed first lady), smallest 13" (dubbed ugly bitch) <- i know not so creative, but she is rather ugly.
You can see the fly in pic #5, theyve been around since the plants were just babies, and i suppose they arent doing any harm so w/e.

Lemme know what u think! :hippy:

[talonkardel]

Okay ,so! After careful bandaging and taping my injured mommy is back on track! i figure she needs another week with the supports on her tip before i take them off, other than that shes back in action. So im still trying to figure out the indica/sativa'ness of the plants, im damn sure that only 2 have the same genetics, the other 4 are completely different. Ie. The plant in pic 4 seems like it doesnt want to branch out, unlike the others who are booming with bud sites.. Assuming that its going to take about 10 weeks to finish flowering, i figure they'll be done right in time for Xmas :jointsmile:
I've been using the fox farms lineup (Big Grow Big Bloom Tiger Bloom) and was wondering if anyone needed the support of nutes like Botanicare Sweet or molasses etc while flowering.

I planted some tomatoes and banana peppers as well earlier this week, they just sprouted and soon moving into my Gtent!

[talonkardel]

So i did my daily checkup on the garden this morning, the ladies are looking stellar calyxes are in the early stages of *fattening up* crowns are looking purty.
I found a couple males among the newborns, not even 3 weeks old and showing pods. So instead of my usual throwing of him in the trash, i thought it would be fun to watch my cats eat them, low and behold they love it! i could never get them to eat any other form of vegetable, but they sure do love fan leaves :thumbsup:

[dmcefc]

I was wondering if it would be ok to give fan leaves to my lizard's(bearded dragon's)but thought better not just in case, be careful your stoner cat's may get a taste for it and rip your grow,lol.

I had a sample from my plant and it was mostly leaves but very sticky (never bought weed this sticky before) been in flower for 63 days and still hoping calyx's will fill out , heard they fill out the last 2-3 weeks (fingers crossed).

[talonkardel]

Okay so now i feel bad today :( my cat got sick from eating the fan leaves, something obviously didnt sit right in their stomach. *probably the clorophyll in them*. The jokes on me cuz i had to cleanup the puke :wtf:
As far as bearded dragons go DMC thats your call, my friend has some leopard gecko's and a bearded dragon, fed them a fan leaf on top of crickets... Honestly, i think animals should stick to their diet, and let us humans be the test monkeys :stoned:

Today is feeding day and im adding 1tbsp of grandma's unsulfured molasses on top of 1 1/4 tsp Tiger bloom 1 tbsp big bloom per. gal. Im only going to be feeding them molasses once a week. I was noticing this morning a couple branches were going purple, a possible K deficiency, not really a big problem (the rest of the plant looks fantastic) so i just figure they'll sort that out.

Im very particular about hating insects, and im getting good at spotting/eradicating them. Yesterday after recycling the soil from the male plants i was scooping it out and in one scoop there were a bunch of lil' white squirming maggots (EWWW). I tossed them to the wind and then dumped poison on them, lol. I have a feeling that its an isolated infection, as i didnt see them anywhere else. I also like to check for spidermites (yeah theyre a problem) I found one webbing inside the top cola of my pretty lady, a couple squirts of my plant spray and sucker was dead.
I really wish i didnt have to worry about bugs ruining my plants, but... i suppose it comes with the territory of growing outside.

If anyone has any recommendations as far as all purpose bug removers go, im listening :).

[talonkardel]

Okay so im gonna line up the pics in list / description

Pic. 1 : This indica just refuses to bush, but is coming along nicely with her flowers. She looks like shes just going to have one main cola running up the entire plant, aside from the internodal fan leaves, the side branches arent really extending.
Pic. 2 : Taken at night, im not 100% sure but if i had a guess id say shes a sativa.
Pic. 3 : This is the biggest of all, started flowering about 7-8 days after the other 5, Fan leaves are almost twice the size of my hand.
Pic. 4 : She's the smallest of the group, has the look of indica, dark green leaves, only 14" tall compared to the 25" biggun.
Pic. 5 : Canopy shot of the injured girl, Bandages and supports came off today and she looks to be doing okay, no real signs of stress @ all. Flowers are coming along quite nicely, for everyone that is.

[dmcefc]

Looking good , its amazing how a snapped branch can survive with a bit of tape, my plant snapped the top 1/3 of the main stem and a side branch and I just wrapped around a little tape with a splint (straightened out paper clip) and my plant showed absolutely no ill effects.

Are you sure that first pic is a female? it looks a little like a male.

Good Growin.

[LetsSeeYa]

Okay so im gonna line up the pics in list / description

Pic. 1 : This indica just refuses to bush, but is coming along nicely with her flowers. She looks like shes just going to have one main cola running up the entire plant, aside from the internodal fan leaves, the side branches arent really extending.
Pic. 2 : Taken at night, im not 100% sure but if i had a guess id say shes a sativa.
Pic. 3 : This is the biggest of all, started flowering about 7-8 days after the other 5, Fan leaves are almost twice the size of my hand.
Pic. 4 : She's the smallest of the group, has the look of indica, dark green leaves, only 14" tall compared to the 25" biggun.
Pic. 5 : Canopy shot of the injured girl, Bandages and supports came off today and she looks to be doing okay, no real signs of stress @ all. Flowers are coming along quite nicely, for everyone that is.



Pic. 2 : Taken at night, im not 100% sure but if i had a guess id say shes a sativa.
Hey man its not a good idea to take pic's of your plants at night, because the flash can mess up your light cycle of the plant and you will get male/hermy:wtf:

peace and lookin good:rasta:

[talonkardel]

Are you sure that first pic is a female? it looks a little like a male.

Good Growin.

lol definitely sure, i guess in the pic you cant see, but the branches at every internode are swelling up with calyx's. Shes just going to have one main cola running down the entire plant from the looks of it. She's been given the same treatment as the rest of them, but as ive said, all of them have completely different sets of genetics. Sub for 2 which i believe are from the same bag.

Thanks LetsSeeYa, i didnt really think about that, the only other light they see at night is from my lighter, i dont usually check them @ night, but, i find its a good time to look for buggers. so far its just the aphids and spiders that i find mostly.

Ill be posting more pics up sometime next week. Thanks for your support everyone!

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey man how bout an update?:rasta:

[talonkardel]

lol ill have one up tomorrow. i just got back from vacation *my b-day was the 26th*. And OMFG the buds are super swelling, frostiness has commenced :)

[talonkardel]

Okay so im gonna line up the pics again, everyones doing great as usual.

Pic. 1 : This is Bertha, shes pushing 3 1/2 feet and is only 2 weeks into flower. Giant fan leaves and bushiness tells me shes a Sativa Hybrid.
Pic. 2 : Top Cola of the mommy behind Bertha, i love searching for bugs, and then smelling the dankness on my fingers :stoned:
Pic. 3 : Top cola of the previously injured mommy, obviously shes back to full health. She has 8 budding branches around her, which is gonna look rly nice when shes finished :).
Pic. 4 : This is the bushless Indica, you can she shes swelling around the internodes, very healthy, but.. instead of multiple branching cola's shes just going to have one running down the entire plant.
Pic. 5 : This is what i believe to be about an 80% or more Sativa, about 6 inches smaller than Bertha, about 3 weeks into flower.

So aside from the 2 big sativas, the other 4 are about 3 1/2 - 4 weeks into flower.. and should be about done within the first 2 weeks of december. And then the Sativa's i gather will finish right before XMAS :jointsmile:

Also i wanted to point out, on one of the indica's and the injured mommy, fan leaf stems are getting red & purple mixed in amongst the grains.
Is this a nutrient deficiency or an overnute problem?

Holla back! :hippy:

[talonkardel]

Obviously this thread is useless without pictures.
:wtf: :wtf:

[talonkardel]

Since i was doing updates i figured id get a 360 view and inside group shot of my tent.

Also i found another big fucking grasshopper sitting on one of berthas giant leaves.. hopefully now that the tent is almost fully enclosed, bugs wont be as bad as they were. I'm gonna have to go out later and give them a dose of bug spray.


Anyways.. if you got a comment, lemme know!
:jointsmile:

[LetsSeeYa]

They look great man.:thumbsup:I see your green house set up looks much better, good job man:thumbsup:And your plants look healthy. Red stems can be a N def. So a shot of ferts with lots of N would help i think. Just dont over do it with the N later in your grow, cuz your weed will taste bad, mine did:wtf: Grow and learn though. Give em a good wash before harvest will take care of it too.

Later man:rasta:

[talonkardel]

I was going outside to water everyone, and then smoked a j *its nice having room for a chair in there for when i dont feel like standing while trimming*
Found a ladybug on one of the stems, pretty cool i thought, seen a few lately since i sealed everything off. which brings me to another awesome thing, no bugs/andor bug damage seen in the last few days.
Im throwing in a couple bonus top cola shots too, lol...

Im pretty relaxd right about now. :jointsmile:
cya

[secret420]

i got a comment build a real growroom you cheap ass plastic lovin floridian!!!!!!!!! lol just playin bro. everything looks good man. seriously though when you get tired of weighing down the corners of you greenhouse with plant pots and dirt lemme know i can design anything in 3-d. later bro

-secret:)

[dmcefc]

Really great job with the g'house , your plants are looking good ,how long left now do you reckon?.

[talonkardel]

Hey secret, you damn right im a plastic luvin Floridian. works well for me, so far atleast. I've since weighed down the sides with more staples nail's and bricks at the bottom.

DMEFC -- thanks man, a few of them started flowering earlier than the ones in the back. They still need another good 4-5 weeks , the taller ones i dont think i'll be harvesting until late december.

I cant wait to see them all finish filling out, i thought it was pretty neat that every single one of them has different genetics.

I'll post some pics up next week sometime, until then

:hippy: and love

TK

[talonkardel]

so i was feeling a lil naughty and stole a couple nug samples off the indica's... oh.. man. im :stoned: just ... i cant wait after trying them out till they finish here in a month. Still got 4 others waiting to be sampled :D

So yeah just felt like id share a smoke report :) bout to pack another bowl.

PEACE

TK

[talonkardel]

Okay so business as usual, pics of the 2 bigger ones in the back, and cola shots of everyone else, yay!

Also my massively fruiting tangerines are almost all ripe ready to be eaten.

Which brings me to another thing, the sativa on the right has like a lemony citrusy scent to her, she still has a long ways to go before i take anything to sample.

Everyone else besides the 2 in the back has like... 3 weeks left give or take.

I smoked a Gram j from the bushless indica yesterday, and i got a cerebral head high followed by a body high that lasted a good hour.

Later! , TK

[talonkardel]

:) not much to say other than everyone is just about at the finish line, im giving them another 6 days of nute's / water and then flush for about 9 days. then harvest. Atleast thats the plan for the 4 in the front, the 2 in the back still have another 4-5 weeks left till they're finished.

Im lazy and dont really want to put up plant pics, soooo im putting up a nug i got curing :) off of one of the indicas.

[talonkardel]

Just smoked half a J from the previously injured lady, Soooooaring atm, very uplifting high, ill put some pics up after this thanksgiving holiday is over. They should be almost done by then

Gbye, TK :hippy:

[talonkardel]

lol... went to a thrift and found this little toy car today while i was shopping for a cabinet, also one of my few pieces! along with a nuggie from one of the girls, its still drying not ready yet.

:rastasmoke:

[DreadedHermie]

Nice!

Excellent work.

Hermie

[talonkardel]

So here is one of the last pics i'll be putting up before harvest.

So far ive been a naughty boy as far as sampling goes.. i imagine ive already smoked atleast a ziplocks worth. Bertha and sativa bitch are untouched however, but since they started a week later in flowering they're getting 2 more nute days then start to flush.

Just as well, to make my money back from the investment from soil etc. I sold ugly bitch to a friend for 80$. He says her branches are looking to be atleast a 1/2 oz, on top of the main cola he should get a nice loot.

As i do not have a jewelers loupe. That same friend does, i brought him a sample of the other 3 to test and inspect. They were about 1/2 cloudy 1/2 clear a couple weeks ago.

The same 3 in the front are now about 15% amber 85% cloudy.
Ive been flushing them for a little over a week now, i suspect they should be ready for harvest in another week.

So heres the final lineup. sub ugly bitch.
#1 Is sativa bitch, she has a pungent stink and although i havent sampled her yet i cant wait to see how she smokes.
#2 This is Bertha, i didnt really have space to show the rest of her and get a good closeup so this will do :). Shes going to be a provider, already it looks to be atleast 1 1/2 or more zips.
#3 This is the top of the bushless indica, Through the cold or genetics im not sure, but her leaves have been purple for a month now, still healthy and green underneath. Her trichs are more amber than the rest. atleast a 35/65 ratio.
#4 I never really named her.. but shes got a skunk like no other, another week 1/2 on her and shes done.
#5 This is the previously injured hybrid mommy, She has a top cola that alone i suspect will be a 1/2o, her branches are nice and fat too, probably a little over an OZ left on her.

So thats it! Ill report again in a couple weeks with harvest pics!!

Stay fresh everyone! peace :hippy:

[talonkardel]

Oh yeah! almost slipped my mind and wanted to ask, but im sure i know the answer, is it normal for fan leaves to yellow up and fall off? Ive been noticing that for a while. But the buds and the budleaves are all still very healthy, i just wait for the leaves to be able to fall right off the stem before i prune.

Either way just wanted to check.

[talonkardel]

Okay i figured id put a couple pics here to show you the size, this is a branch i cut a day ago off injured mommy, shes fat and thick :).

[LetsSeeYa]

Oh yeah! almost slipped my mind and wanted to ask, but im sure i know the answer, is it normal for fan leaves to yellow up and fall off? Ive been noticing that for a while. But the buds and the budleaves are all still very healthy, i just wait for the leaves to be able to fall right off the stem before i prune.

Either way just wanted to check.

Hey man looking great:thumbsup:. Leaves fall off as they age and the plant matures. The purple you see iv heard comes from Afgani strain.

I have been over in the indoor section growin, so iv missed out on the good part it looks like. Good job my man:thumbsup: I had a bud like that big puffy one ya got, in fact looks just like it. Im smoking the branches of it now, lol.

Check it out. Cant wait till the harvest, il be back:rasta:

[talonkardel]

Thanks much for the vote of confidence LSY :)

Yeah weather for the last couple days and the whole next week is looking like cold weather and lots of rain, so yesterday i pulled the purple indica and the skunk with the big fat puffy bud.

Previously injured mommy is getting chopped on sunday, and the 2 in the back still need a couple more weeks.

But the high i get off the skunk is incredible for a wake & bake. Smoke one nice fat bowl and im ripped for a good hour or 2. :stoned:

Either way ill post some harvest pics this sunday, what an amazing journey its been :thumbsup:

[dmcefc]

Glad you had good result's , I hope to see you next year , now I'm all finished aswell.

[talonkardel]

So after today im down to one. Sorry about having no harvest pics.... i did however get my camera up and running for today.. After weigh in with water weight, sativa bitch totalled 110g hopefully she'll turn over atleast an oz.5

Bertha is still in the dirt, waiting till monday to pull her.

ill have pics up monday as well.

A big thanks to everyone who helped me out along the way! hermie, lsy, dmefc etc.

Ive already set up some clones im going to get for next years grow
, WW WR NL backcross strain. I smoked some and i nearly passed out, this shit is wicked...
Cant wait! again, thanks everyone! PEACE & LOVE
:hippy:

[DreadedHermie]

I'd say you're high, those are a May/June harvest according to the pics.

Who's high now? :dance: :weedpoke: :madnoel: :buzz_saw: :lol5:

Good goin', TK. :thumbsup:

Congrats, and Happy High-lidays. :D

[talonkardel]

okay soooo heres the *Scoop* Last night and the night before the temperatures had dropped to 30/34 lows, enough that we had frost in the field this morning.. I figured good a time as any to chop her down, sub the cold, the suns been out all the time so yeah... 1/2 way done trimming bertha, shes sooo stinky :) .. Smoking a J of sativa bitch atm, :stoned:

But yeah, cant find my camera cord at the moment so hopefully ill find it later so i can upload pics.. Either way, Im left with a problem.. I have a shit ton of trim, and no straining device with ply good enough to do bubble hash..

Does anyone have any like... cheap easy ways to condense trim into hash? Im open for anything so long as i dont have to end up spending 100$ on a bubble bag set.

And to Hermie, happy high-ladays to you to sir :D